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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by whiteprince(m): 7:41pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
tintingz: Holy spirit is the comforter |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by samuelgambo(m): 9:17pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
IAM MEAN He ever lived, He changed not, He is the same yesterday today and forever God bless you |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by JIMJOGP(m): 9:21pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Brigham: You can't understand because it is vailed to you 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by CharlieMaria(m): 9:30pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
atoleybaba:Dear you are very wrong to Say that Jesus is not Called God. In several places was he called God. Let's roll and please i want you to read them up yourself and perhaps make your analysis of what was meant there. 1. In Heb chapter 1vs6to8 it says " and again when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith: And Let all the angels of God ADORE HIM. And to the angels indeed he saith: He that maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But to the Son: Thy throne O GOD, is forever and ever: a scepter of justice is the scepter of thy kingdom." in John 20vs28 thomas exclaimed on touching the wounded side of Jesus: "My Lord and My God." Titus 2:10to13 St paul said Jesus is both our saviour and our God. Check it out. Colosians 1vs 16to17 "For in Him all things were created in heaven and on earth visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created By Him and in him. And he is before all, and by him all things consist." please i ask you this simple question who created the world? If your answer is God, then you just said that Jesus is God because the scriptures not me even told us in colosians 1vs16to17 that all things were created by Jesus. See your point of confusion is that you fail to understand that There are Three Persons in One God and these three distinct persons God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are co equal, co eternal. Non is greater than the other. Even Jesus was called Eternal Father in Isaiah 9vs6. This is a mystery beyond our comprehension bro |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by kayceeD2(m): 9:35pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Tell me about dis? How many god come dey 2 Likes
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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by murmee: 11:00am On Oct 28, 2016 |
atoleybaba:My dear, you are the illiterate here. I am a deaconess and I went through a Bible college. If someone is IN the other person, what it naturally means is that both persons are ONE and the SAME. In Christendom, Jesus is GOD and there is nothing Muslims can say to change that fact. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 12:19pm On Oct 28, 2016 |
murmee:u went to a bible college so what? U are a deaconess that one Na for ur pocket that doesn't still make u brilliant or smart...in ur bible college they taught u what they formulated..av u tried to sit and do your own research? Lemme give u a research material.. Go and study d catholic Encyclopedia read how they came bawt the trinity..read what dy did concerning God's name and reason for their actions...the same set of people who taught u in ur bible college. When u are done with ur research then we can talk. Along with bible quotation is self explanatory that Dont need u to twist before u can explain and I will also bring my own bible quotation with backing of other bible quotations...deaconness "that was what dy taught me...and I can't think outside d box and make reasonable research" |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by atoleybaba(m): 12:22pm On Oct 28, 2016 |
murmee:and yes u are right...in Christendom, Jesus is God but in d bible Jesus is d son of God and first creation of God. Now u av been tutored left to u to use ur brain and restrain from deceiving ur members under u lest Gid's anger will blaze on u when d time come shalom |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:33am On Oct 29, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Suggested answers: https://gotquestions.org/I-AM.html |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 2:34pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
femi4:What if dis is what jesuse mean I'm the servant of God, I'm d prophet of God, I'm the slave of God and many more som 'I'm' is indefinite sentene in english and can be completed with many sentence dan u thought in ur mind!!! |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 5:48pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
Sman37:You mean Jesus doesn't know how to complete sentences. Did you not read when he said: I am the way, the truth and life I am the vine, you are the branches. But this time, he said I AM not "I WAS" 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 7:38pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
femi4:Goo of u mr, man what am saying is if jesuse never complete d sentence 'i'm' in d bible wher and who told he mean 'i'm what u claims him to be?? Explain these bible verses here New International Version He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." New Living Translation Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel." English Standard Version He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.?? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 7:41pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
femi4:Goo of u mr, man what am saying is if jesuse never complete d sentence 'i'm' in d bible wher and who told he mean 'i'm what u claims him to be?? Explain these bible verses here New International Version He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."Mathew 15:24 check it out and explain it New Living Translation Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel." English Standard Version He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.?? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 8:39pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
Sman37:Now let's look at the story from verse 22. A Canaanite woman came to Jesus for help about his demon possessed son. The disciples asked Jesus to throw the woman out....why "cos she wasn't part of the lost sheep of Israel" by birth. But Jesus redefined those that belong to "the lost sheep of Israel" by helping the woman. He didn't send her away. He told her " Woman you have a great faith and her daughter was healed at that moment." Hence, by faith we are all part of the "lost sheep of Israel" Further examples includes his discussion with the Samaritan woman by the well (a non Israelites) |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 6:42pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
femi4:Hmm sure what verse of the bible said so? Let me check it out my self and see cause u cant preach what is not in the bible if not i will call u anti christ either u ar christian or not if u dnt follow bibles u are anti christ! Bring a proof from bibles mr. man?? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 10:43pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
Sman37:Imagine, so you don't even know that the story is what bring about the "sent to the sheep of Israel" phrase. I am afraid it will be easy to toss you to and fro with the wind of doctrine. Matthew 15:22-28 New International Version (NIV) 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.” 23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” 25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” 27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” 28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Scholar8200(m): 9:06am On Nov 11, 2016 |
John testified about him when he shouted to the crowds, "This is the one I was talking about when I said, 'Someone is coming after me who is far greater than I am, [size=18pt]for he existed long before me.'"[/size] John 1:15 There! That settles it |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 10:00am On Nov 11, 2016 |
femi4:Haha and u tink jesuse is lord because does who write bibles have turned it into lies check it out Jeremiah 8:8 Parallel Verses New International Version "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? New Living Translation "'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies? From what hapen between jesus and dat woman if its true jesus is wicked and not kind 1 he insults an elder woman by calling her dogs meaning? 2 jesuse said he was 'sent' mark that Can lord send another lord? And how many lord do bibles said we have? And last question is can God be naild, hanged, tortured and killed like army robber or terrorists sentence to death by ordinary human like u and me, did jesuse die as lord or he die has human? femi4: Imagine, so you don't even know that the story is what bring about the "sent to the sheep of Israel" phrase. I am afraid it will be easy to toss you to and fro with the wind of doctrine. Matthew 15:22-28 New International Version (NIV) 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.” 23 Jesus did not answer a word. [b]So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” 25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” 27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” 28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.Haha and u tink jesuse is lord because does who write bibles have turned it into lies check it out Jeremiah 8:8 Parallel Verses New International Version "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? New Living Translation "'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies? From what hapen between jesus and dat woman if its true jesus is wicked and not kind 1 he insults an elder woman by calling her dogs meaning? 2 jesuse said he was 'sent' mark that Can lord send another lord? And how many lord do bibles said we have? And last question is can God be naild, hanged, tortured and killed like army robber or terrorists sentence to death by ordinary human like u and me, did jesuse die as lord or he die has human?[/b] femi4:Haha and u tink jesuse is lord because does who write bibles have turned it into lies check it out Jeremiah 8:8 Parallel Verses New International Version "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? New Living Translation "'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies? From what hapen between jesus and dat woman if its true jesus is wicked and not kind 1 he insults an elder woman by calling her dogs meaning? 2 jesuse said he was 'sent' mark that Can lord send another lord? And how many lord do bibles said we have? And last question is can God be naild, hanged, tortured and killed like army robber or terrorists sentence to death by ordinary human like u and me, did jesuse die as lord or he die has human? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 10:55am On Nov 11, 2016 |
Sman37:You asked if a Lord can send the lord? Alright, let's find out together. PS 110:1 New International Version The LORD says to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet." 2. You claimed Jesus called the woman dog, How come he never sent her away? How come he granted her wish by delivering her demon possessed child. Jesus talks in parables a lot and no flesh and blood can decipher. 3. Can God be killed? I think you should rephrase the question to Can a man die and resurrect? Can a man tell you "Your sins are forgiven"? Can a man convincingly tell you "Today, you will be with me in Paradise"? John 10:14-18 Jesus speaking: 14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.” |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by CANTICLES: 11:26am On Nov 11, 2016 |
Splinz: @ the bolded, you mean Jesus is the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob ? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Splinz(m): 11:36am On Nov 11, 2016 |
CANTICLES:Exactly, brother. This claim can be conveniently proven. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by CANTICLES: 11:50am On Nov 11, 2016 |
Splinz: proven ? How many Jesus do we have ? " The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servant Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him." ESV Act 3:13 If the God of Abraham. Isaac and Jacob glorified Jesus, does that not prove he is different from the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob ? now let's substitute your submission and see how that scripture looks like. (The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers) [size=27] Jesus , glorified his servant Jesus, [/size] whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him. Do YOU Mean it ? HOW many Jesus ? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Splinz(m): 12:55pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
CANTICLES: Ordinarily, I shouldn't be replying you again, since it's obvious you've made your conclusions without first listening or asking for proofs that I spoke of. This is certainly not a good way to learn. One was hoping that you'd ask for proofs before raising your objections where you felt the need. But regrettably, you hastily quoted scriptures that I know very well. Well then, since you've already shut your mind from receiving other views other than yours, you can as well keep what you think you know. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by CANTICLES: 2:22pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
Splinz: am only reasoning with you If the scripture says the God of Abraham. Isaac and Jacob glorified Jesus, does that not prove Jesus is different from the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob that glorified him ? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by achorladey: 2:52pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
@canticles I gbadun that your reasoning skills just above my post. Kai people dey reason ooooooo. What is there to proof/prove when you can't reason? 1 Like |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 7:16pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
femi4:and jeremiah 8:8 said it cleared they keep twisting, editing, adding and deleting God and jesuse word!!! Mind it's not all bibles verses ar parable or proverb it's not all the time jesuse spoke in parables and john 5:30 mean what jesuse said he is powerless,nothing with out God is dis also parable mr.man explain it out let see how u twist it ![]() |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by femi4: 10:12pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
Sman37:You didn't answer my question. if the woman is a dog why did Jesus help her? You don't know and you don't believe you don't know. Only a fool act that way. You must be one of the Pharisees/Sadducees that were present when Jesus said: "Pull down this temple and it will be rebuilt in 3 days". Just like you, they thought he was talking about the building (temple). Its not my fault if you choose the path of destruction. John 5:30 is simple and clear " Jesus didn't say he is powerless rather he said "Everything that he did, was not done in Isolation". He had the authority or go ahead from the Father. John 4:34 Jesus said to them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Please don't bother to quote me again cos you don't look like someone that's ready to learn. Your mind is already made up. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 10:21am On Nov 12, 2016 |
femi4:If jesuse is merciful and loving y most he allowed an elderly woman like her mother to cry kneeling and crawling and begging after him for help? dnt u tink and reason jesus will do d same to u cus u ar not jew hann?? What if the father said jesuse have no right to save u from according to john 5:30 as it said and u and i know jesuse did exactly what is father command not is own wish or will? i have answered ur question by qouting Jeremiah 8:8 for u meaning there are too many falsehood and contradiction in d bibles, bibles said this check it out jeremiah 8:8 If jesuse is loving, caring and most powerful he doesn't have to die such a painful criminal death before he can save us? John 5:30 said it clear jesuse did what his superior father said or tell and command he to do meaning all d skills,miracle and wonders he did was giving to him by the mighty father, meaning if jesuse did not obey d father he will be punished and destroyed right? And bible never said God is biologically father of jesuse so dnt get confused cause it happened uptill today ur father can call me is son and i call him my father too that doesn't mean he is my biologically father bt it may be cause is same or higher age of my biologically father and many language have different way of calling God eg English said God, Arabic said Allah, Yoruba said Olo'run and hausa said Ubangiji u must go research and fined d history of how jewish call God in their language as bibles ar all translated to english while jesuse him self never know or spoke english cause he is not a english man then u will know how to understand and know what father means in the bibles today? even now u call ur pastor,revren father and God my father ( e.g.our father in heaven) does dat mean God born us or our biological father too? femi4: You didn't answer my question. if the woman is a dog why did Jesus help her? You don't know and you don't believe you don't know. Only a fool act that way. You must be one of the Pharisees/Sadducees that were present when Jesus said: "Pull down this temple and it will be rebuilt in 3 days". Just like you, they thought he was talking about the building (temple). Its not my fault if you choose the path of destruction. John 5:30 is simple and clear " Jesus didn't say he is powerless rather he said "Everything that he did, was not done in Isolation". He had the authority or go ahead from the Father. John 4:34 Jesus said to them, [b]My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Please don't bother to quote me again cos you don't look like someone that's ready to learn. Your mind is already made up.If jesuse is merciful and loving y most he allowed an elderly woman like her mother to cry kneeling and crawling and begging after him for help? dnt u tink and reason jesus will do d same to u cus u ar not jew hann?? What if the father said jesuse have no right to save u from according to john 5:30 as it said and u and i know jesuse did exactly what is father command not is own wish or will? i have answered ur question by qouting Jeremiah 8:8 for u meaning there are too many falsehood and contradiction in d bibles, bibles said this check it out jeremiah 8:8 If jesuse is loving, caring and most powerful he doesn't have to die such a painful criminal death before he can save us? John 5:30 said it clear jesuse did what his superior father said or tell and command he to do meaning all d skills,miracle and wonders he did was giving to him by the mighty father, meaning if jesuse did not obey d father he will be punished and destroyed right? And bible never said God is biologically father of jesuse so dnt get confused cause it happened uptill today ur father can call me is son and i call him my father too that doesn't mean he is my biologically father bt it may be cause is same or higher age of my biologically father and many language have different way of calling God eg English said God, Arabic said Allah, Yoruba said Olo'run and hausa said Ubangiji u must go research and fined d history of how jewish call God in their language as bibles ar all translated to english while jesuse him self never know or spoke english cause he is not a english man then u will know how to understand and know what father means in the bibles today? even now u call ur pastor,revren father and God my father ( e.g.our father in heaven) does dat mean God born us or our biological father too? [/b] femi4:If jesuse is merciful and loving y most he allowed an elderly woman like her mother to cry kneeling and crawling and begging after him for help? dnt u tink and reason jesus will do d same to u cus u ar not jew hann?? What if the father said jesuse have no right to save u from according to john 5:30 as it said and u and i know jesuse did exactly what is father command not is own wish or will? i have answered ur question by qouting Jeremiah 8:8 for u meaning there are too many falsehood and contradiction in d bibles, bibles said this check it out jeremiah 8:8 If jesuse is loving, caring and most powerful he doesn't have to die such a painful criminal death before he can save us? John 5:30 said it clear jesuse did what his superior father said or tell and command he to do meaning all d skills,miracle and wonders he did was giving to him by the mighty father, meaning if jesuse did not obey d father he will be punished and destroyed right? And bible never said God is biologically father of jesuse so dnt get confused cause it happened uptill today ur father can call me is son and i call him my father too that doesn't mean he is my biologically father bt it may be cause is same or higher age of my biologically father and many language have different way of calling God eg English said God, Arabic said Allah, Yoruba said Olo'run and hausa said Ubangiji u must go research and fined d history of how jewish call God in their language as bibles ar all translated to english while jesuse him self never know or spoke english cause he is not a english man then u will know how to understand and know what father means in the bibles today? even now u call ur pastor,revren father and God my father ( e.g.our father in heaven) does dat mean God born us or our biological father too? |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by Sman37(m): 10:30am On Nov 12, 2016 |
whiteprince:Fine how or in which way has d holy spirit be conforter to us? what teachings and guides has he come or bring to us from our father in heaven since jesus left the earth hann ![]() |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by FrancisMalemia: 10:44am On Nov 12, 2016 |
Brigham:What You Need Is An Understanding Of The Trinity And What Happened To The Trinity From The Arrest To The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ. If You Do Not Understand This, What If I Tell You That God Did Not Die On The Cross (because God Cannot Die, He Has Never Died And Will Never Die), But Jesus Did And Jesus Is 100% God. Will You Understand? I Bet It Doesn't Make Sense To You. Even Some Christians Here Will Turn Against Me. So If You Don't Understand Something, Try To Understand It, Don't Try To Argue. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by orunto27: 3:00pm On Nov 12, 2016 |
Directly Yes Yes Yes. |
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said 'I AM'? by pressplay411(m): 5:38pm On Nov 12, 2016 |
Where in the bible did Jesus declare himself I AM? Let's not complicate things pls. |
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