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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ritababe(f): 10:29pm On Nov 15, 2016 |
Bifwoli: the question you should ask is if bonny island is in Nigeria or not, if no then u have a case if yes then u don't have any case. so far so good, you can only compare Nairobi to port Harcourt. Abuja and Lagos are miles ahead of Nairobi. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Bifwoli: 10:45pm On Nov 15, 2016 |
ritababe: Your oft repeated double standards to the rescue AGAIN. If something works better in Kenya,South Africa or Zimbabwe the claim is always "oyinbo has done it" .If its in Nigeria's case then its simply in Nigeria and thats all that matters so you don't have a case. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:49am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Henrydone:Kenya's Unemployment index counts anyone above 18(including millions of students), casual workers in Agriculture and all pastoralists as 'unemployed' . 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:56am On Nov 16, 2016 |
highheybee:Links to those lies please!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:08am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Oxtonguy:The second picture is what we call a SLUM in Mombasa ,Kenya. To us, a brown roof=Slum because they do not exist in any of our working class or middle class estates. Slums cover just 5% of Nairobi. Nairobi slums have a lot of people but are hardly visible . 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 5:42am On Nov 16, 2016 |
GERALD710:but u admit Kenya has slums?,I saw a list of Africa biggest slums and there were mostly Kenya's |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 5:47am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Kenyanstar:okay in welfare,nationhood,less corruption political stability you guys win,Nigerian has a higher GDP per capital but you have been avoiding that like a plague,you country is 34 million mine is 180 million I won't compare the whole thing I would go with the southern regions alone they just as the same population,that would be a more nicer argument let's just our of it. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:03am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: Nigerians should learn to take defeat graciously.... In terms of infrastructure and development growth, South Africa is leap and bounds beyond Kenya. Kenyans accept and appreciate this fact thus necessitating it as a country to emulate the model the South Africans used to get their systems currently working. You wont find Kenyans bad mouthing South Africa over petty issues like pointing out that whites built the country to its current status. Appreciating the strength of your opponent and learning from them is what any country should emulate, not pulling them down to your backwardness. Nigeria has a big GDP, but does it translate into the common Lagosians, Abujans financial status? No! Nigerians GDP provides a falls sense of per capita to the general population of Nigeria if only the entire 520B ends up in the pocket of 5% of the entire population. How comes of the 30m Lagosians 80% live in informal settlements/slums while its GDP of the city is bigger than Kenya as a country. Its time Nigeria accepted that it makes no sense to talk big on figures and numbers while the ground gives a totally different reality. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 8:38am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: You don't know how GDP per capital works, it's an average, I hate to get mathematical, but I'll try to explain as basically as possible but this is how it works. Let's say person A gets $100,000 Person B gets $0 now divide that wealth by the both of them The average is instantly $50,000 This doesn't mean every person is getting $50,000 It just means your Nigerians elites are making way "tooo" much money so they bring up the entire average drastically. The most recent polls I can find explicitly states that 155.6 million people live in under $5. That's about 60% of your population The other 30% are living like gods making roughly 4-10 billion each, thus bringing the average up and giving people a false perception of what's really happening, including Nigerians themselves. Go boycott those 30% and demand everybody get $3,001.51 like the stats claim falsely. If you think about it for an empirical standpoint, it just means you have nicer buildings and restaurants, which adds into the delusion of grandeur and make you guys feel supreme, but are really living like Somalis. 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by highheybee: 8:48am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Things about kenyattas They are evasive that they would even call wikipedia a fluke They only point you have been making all this while are from your imaginations,not a single proof to backup your points Funny part when I checked Kenya economy and nigerian economy from wiki was that I couldn't read it pass all those tables Cox their economy is just so poor compared to Nigeria so I had to surf that of South Africa and there I read both SA and Nigeria from beginning till the end Cox btw the two there is a competition both running neck and neck.... Kenya is like tecno,nigeria is Samsung while SA Na apple Kenya like Leicester,nigeria man u and SA man city So pls for the last time stop talking about not having slums coz we know you gat a lot and I really can't see you exporting anything spectacular.... Just please like I did check your country economy via wiki and pls stop acting like an ignorant by saying wikipedia is a lie..... Unemployment...you be boss |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 8:53am On Nov 16, 2016 |
highheybee: We aren't an exporting powerhouse like Nigeria, this isn't the way to reach prosperity because eventually no one will want oil. That's not what we're claiming, idiot. We're known to trade and rely on our market, hence why we have so many malls. Our annual growth rate has passed Nigeria, which means even with all that oil, you're still below us when it comes to actual growth. Perhaps you should stop looking at how much money you guys make and start looking at the bigger picture like how all of that money is kept by a few people, and ordinary Nigerians don't even get to so much as breathe on it. Yes we have slums, but we've installed a sewage system, and if we weren't so busy with other issues we'd fix it. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:00am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Kenyanstar:shut up and learn I mentioned GDP per capital,80% lagosians leave in slumps?,u don't have sense my friend,I said you should compare kenya to a place of its size such individual southern regions but you started ,my country is almost 200 million it don't expect it to have the same development stats as a country of 34m,each of the zones would make sense,Norway is 5m rank more developed than USA 315m ,but there are many places is America richer and developed than Norway,this is exactly the same issue playing here but unfortunately for you and other idle people who spent 30 goddamm trends talking pointless talk,compere SW nigeria to Kenya 1.gdp 2.GDP per capital 3.literacy 4.poverty rate 5.life expantancy. these two places are almost of the same population. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:06am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:u keeping bitching about the average Nigerians,do you we have a higher GDP per capita than you guys,even with your small and homogenous population,are u saying Nigeria don't have middlemen?,check out wealth in each states,this wealth inequality and massive only exist in our northern region ,still we have a GDP per capita but u just can't stop bitching,I HAVE absolutely nothing against Kenya or its people but ur desires to paint out the whole of nigeria is making you stupid. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:13am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:hey god which kind person be this one ,156 million na so you like lie,this massive poverty you guys keep talking about ?,maybe it is not where I live oh,keep lying you hear,I don't have much ,I we understand due to extreme poverty in northern Nigeria,that I understand but they are just half our population and only 33% of Nigeria is considered poor you just brought 60% sincerely I think I am done with you,it is a shame that most analytical Nigerians can't find this thrend resulting you guys terrorizing with lies,if 156 million Nigerians poor how many come dey our country? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 9:14am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: That's not the way to talk to the new kings of Africa, boy. Also quit looking at minor cities and look at Nigeria as a whole, perhaps that'll help you fight the issue you so desperately want to avoid. Anybody can point out small cities and act mighty, my friend. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 9:16am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: The polls were conducted in 2010, it decreased to 110 million http://dailypost.ng/2016/07/16/110m-nigerians-are-living-in-poverty-osinbajo/ Still too high if you think about how much money Nigeria is making a day. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:21am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:dude check out a profile in nairaland called scholes there are analysis of poverty in nigeria,observe the different States and regions in nigeria,overall 33% of Nigerians are poir |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:22am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:dude check out a profile in nairaland called scholes there are analysis of poverty in nigeria,observe the different States and regions in nigeria,overall 33% of Nigerians are poor,I don't want to make this point again. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 9:25am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: It's obvious biased propaganda, and they're probably looking at a small portion of Nigeria, or they probably twisted the wording. when the Vice President himself claims 110 million people live in poverty. Is the Vice President lying or is the analytical school lying? I don't trust anything analytical information coming from there. It's all in good fun, I hope you guys handle your problems well, I truly want Nigeria to succeed (: acting like the issue doesn't exist is not the way to do it though. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 9:29am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:new kings of Africa I hay dee.am not looking at minor cities I think I can not compare a country with 34million people with that of almost of 200m,so I brought different regions,do you know that hong Kong due to its small population is richer than the USA,but there are many states(with Hong Kong population( which are doing far better in terms of GDP per capita and other factors, have you seen people comparing a multicultural large population such the US to Norway or even Canada with just the population of California, NO,take someone of your size. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chebeoc(m): 9:35am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Even if 110m nigerians are poor, it's still have more than 70m that are living well and that's almost twice the population of kenya. The problem with these people is that they reason like kids which is what they are. if not, how can they compare economy of 450b$ to their 70$? Just like because china has the second largest population of poor people then singapore will bragging to them, meanwhile everything singapore have china had it times five. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:07am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17015873 Poverty has risen in Nigeria, with almost 100 million people living on less than a $1 (£0.63) a day, despite economic growth, statistics have shown. The National Bureau of Statistics said 60.9% of Nigerians in 2010 were living in "absolute poverty" - this figure had risen from 54.7% in 2004. The bureau predicted this rising trend was likely to continue. Nigeria is Africa's biggest oil producer but the sector has been tainted by accusations of corruption . According to the report, absolute poverty is measured by the number of people who can afford only the bare essentials of shelter, food and clothing. https://www.ruralpovertyportal.org/web/rural-poverty-portal/country/home/.../nigeria Some 70 per cent of Nigerians live on less than US$1.25 a day. Poverty is especially severe in rural areas, where up to 80 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line, and social services and infrastructure are limited. The country's poor rural women and men depend on agriculture for food and income. https://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/nigeria_statistics.html Despite Nigeria's plentiful agricultural resources and oil wealth, poverty is widespread in the country and has increased since the late 1990s. Some 70 per cent of Nigerians live on less than US$1.25 a day. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 10:16am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:dude goodbye,am done here ,u can't force a donkey to drink water,imagine a country OWN national stat,u guys are clowns |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 10:19am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Kenyanstar:United Nations' Multi Dimensional Poverty Index The United Nations' Global Multi-Dimensional Poverty Index has three dimensions and 10 indicators in estimating Overall Poverty. Each dimension is equally weighted, each indicator within a dimension is also equally weighted, and added. It uses 10 indicators to measure poverty in three dimensions: Education, Health and Living standards. This report was Published in June 2015 , and is based on data collected on years between 2004 and 2014. According to the MPI Report, as at 2010, 46% of Nigerians lived below the national poverty line (Only 28% in Urban areas, and near 70% in The rural). Although a Report by the World bank, released in 2014, showed that only 33% of Nigerians could be considered Poor. Now, to the Report........ States by Incidence of Poverty STATES<-->POVERTY RATE 1. Lagos --------- 8.5% 2. Osun --------- 10.9% 3. Anambra --------- 11.2% 4. Ekiti --------- 12.9% 5. Edo --------- 19.2% 6. Imo --------- 19.8% 7. Abia --------- 21.0% 8. Rivers --------- 21.1% *. FCT (Abj) --------- 23.5% 9. Kwara --------- 23.7% 10. Akwa Ibom --------- 23.8% 11. Delta --------- 25.1% 12. Ogun --------- 26.1% 13. Kogi --------- 26.4% 14. Ondo --------- 27.9% 15. Enugu --------- 28.8% 16. Bayelsa --------- 29.0% 17. Oyo --------- 29.4% 18. Cross River --------- 33.1% ------------------------------------------------------- ** National Avg --------- 46.0% ------------------------------------------------------- 19. Plateau --------- 51.6% 20. Nassarawa --------- 52.4% 21. Ebonyi --------- 56.0% 22. Kaduna --------- 56.5% 23. Adamawa --------- 59.0% 24. Benue --------- 59.2% 25. Niger --------- 61.2% 26. Borno --------- 70.1% 27. Kano --------- 76.4% 28. Gombe --------- 76.9% 29. Taraba --------- 77.7% 30. Katsina --------- 82.2% 31. Sokoto --------- 85.3% 32. Kebbi --------- 86.0% 33. Bauchi --------- 86.6% 34. Jigawa --------- 88.4% 35. Yobe --------- 90.2% 36. Zamfara --------- 91.9% REGIONAL AVERAGES 1 = South West - 19.3% Poverty (+ Average) 2 = South South - 25.2% Poverty (+ Average) 3 = South East - 27.36% Poverty (+ Average) -------------------------------------------------------- ** National Avg 46.0%% Poverty -------------------------------------------------------- 4 = North Central - 45.7% Poverty (+Average) 5 = North East - 76.8% Poverty (- Average) 6 = North West- 80.9% Poverty (- Average) Damn!! Sources The Global Multidimensional Poverty Index by the U.N http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/ Click on Nigeria, and then "Nigeria country briefing, from the dropdown menu". http://www.ophi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Multidimensional-Poverty-Index-2015-2-March-2015.pdf?0a8fd7&13666f |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:25am On Nov 16, 2016 |
chebeoc: http://themarketmogul.com/wealth-inequality-nigeria/ Poverty in Nigeria Absolute poverty in Nigeria (earning less than a dollar a day) has increased from 55% in 2004 to 61% in 2014 and 71% in 2016 in contrast; there are almost 16,000 millionaires currently living in Nigeria representing less than 1% of the population, a 44% increase in the last 6 years. This is expected to grow to 23,000 by 2017, which represents a 47% increase. In Lagos, which is Africa’s most populous city, wealth inequality is most prominent and is home to 9,500 of these millionaires out of a population of 30m. These figures represent a huge issue with wealth distribution in the country and are attributed to a number of factors embedded within the Nigerian culture, system and policies. Contributing Factors The main factors that contribute to wealth inequality in Nigeria are corruption and high governance costs. Corruption Corruption is a major issue that is contributing to the increasing wealth gap between the rich and poor in Nigeria. Corruption has been ever present since the country’s independence in the 1960’s and it now seems to be an issue that is embedded within the Nigerian system and culture. Cost of Governance As long as corruption is embedded in the system, the cost of governance will continue to remain high. A report by the Sahara Reporters in 2012 found that it costs Nigerians $8.3 billion to pay the salaries of those in politics. In 2012, $7.4 was to be spent on developing infrastructure, but only half of this was spent towards its development. To put this into perspective, it meant that for every dollar spent on infrastructure development in Nigeria, two dollars are spent on salaries of those in politics. CONCLUSION 16,000 dollar millionaires in comparison to 180m population Nigeria spends more money on paying 5000 politicians than on 180m people Nigeria has the worst economic implementation system Nigeria has the biggest wealth disparity vis a vis GDP 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:34am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Bifwoli:Words like "small " ,"homogeneous " or something to belittle get thrown around. Watch out for those signs. Let some brave soul come up now ad try compare the currencies, i shall enjoy that. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chebeoc(m): 10:42am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Bla bla bla as if that makes sense, what's poverty rate of your country or no corruption in kenya ?. with population less than 50m kenya still have poor people everywhere. Just point out one thing you have in kenya that nigeria doesn't have two to three times. Go compare your country with Ghana and likes, because i don't see anything to compare between Nigeria and that your mini state. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chebeoc(m): 10:53am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Everyday this low-lifes will come out spamming this site with kenya have this and that. In Nigeria 98% of people here take kenya as backward jungle and i don't think it's going to change. If you people like tell your government to put advertisement of your country on Cnn nobody care.until i see someone that'll convince me that it's easier to be a dollar millionaire in kenya than Nigeria then I'll take that place as a country. For now Me and many well to-do Nigerians see that place as backward place. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 10:53am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Kenyanstar: This right here is a dagger, If I were Nigerian I'd want to fight you right now. Take this information the intelligent Kenyan has given you and make use of it rather than being arrogant idiots online 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 10:55am On Nov 16, 2016 |
KenyaMan111:I just don't want Nigeria to succeed I want AFRICA to suceed I believe my country Nigeria should split.the VP is a pastor not a reseacher,how can it be an obvious propaganda?you need to come to Nigeria, there are places in nigeria that are super poor,there those that are super rich, then a large middle man group, 33% is a large amount,I pray they climb over to the top,your issue of propaganda is a different ,we know the different stat u guys have brought here I don't remember calling anyone propaganda |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Godstraight(m): 10:57am On Nov 16, 2016 |
chebeoc:lol am Nigerian but I seriously think u are dumb 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KenyaMan111: 11:01am On Nov 16, 2016 |
Godgay: That'll most likely never happen, but who knows. The anti-Kenyan sentiment has to disappear before I enter that country. Also every analytical data collecting agency favorably alters their data to make it seem like their country is amazing, that's the only assumption I can come to. Nigeria say one thing the entire world says another, and I am suppose to believe Nigeria? Don't know why there's strong hate against us either considering how we let you walk all over us in when you guys are in Kenya. "hustling" as Nigerians call it. 2 Likes |
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