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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 8:54pm On Nov 20, 2016
pazienza:
Let me book this space, just incase.

1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province Will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unit and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.

Well, this issue will greatly REDUCE fears of domination at the regional level. What about at the national level. Of course, we'd have a national government. What modalities will be in place to determine leadership at this level?

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Nobody: 8:55pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Obviously, the map your people have released have made it my matter. Akwa Ibom is included in the map, Ibibioland is included there. I am a full blooded Ibibio man from Ukanafun so by that logic, I am included in the map. Please address my issues if you can.
you can only speak for yourself. Please allow the remaining 99.9% Ibibio's to speak for themselves.

I am a Rivers boy, part of Niger delta. I totally support the Biafran struggle. Convincing my parents and siblings won't be a difficult thing because I'm sure they won't stay with the religious extreemist that behead people in the name of religion.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 8:56pm On Nov 20, 2016
waternogetenemy:


As long as u keep miles away from igbo and igboid speaking Niger Delta group and territories. We dont care if u join oduduwa.

People form countries based on cultural and geographical proximity, if u have more in common head to Oduduwa.

We have more than enough territory to form a viable country with SS and North central groups that are interested.

However, i seriously doubt ur from the SS, something tells me u are either Benin or Yoruba.


The boldened is one of the points I raised in write-up. I invite you to please address it.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by mrvitalis(m): 8:57pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Let us not lose focus from the issue at hand please. Everybody has a right to his/her opinions and Tonye has aired his. You may present facts to refute his claims.
If a referendum is done in niger delta, pro Biafra will win Rivers State, Akwa-Ibom(very slim margin), cross River, loss Delta by a small margin lose bayelsa and edo... . Over all the will secure 35% votes adding that to over 90% vote from the south East.. . The idea will get the desired 51% thats the truth

But i still prefer we remain in one Nigeria or at worst lower Niger Republic

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by mrvitalis(m): 8:58pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Well, this issue will greatly REDUCE fears of domination at the regional level. What about at the national level. Of course, we'd have a national government. What modalities will be in place to determine leadership at this level?
The national government will be very unattractive i tell u
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 8:58pm On Nov 20, 2016
badboywizzy:
you can only speak for yourself. Please allow the remaining 99.9% remaining Ibibio's to speak for themselves.

I am am a Rivers boy, part of Niger delta. I totally support the Biafran struggle. Convincing my parents and siblings won't be a difficult thing because I'm sure they won't stay with the religious extreemist that behead people in the name of religion.

I don't think you read my post. If you did you won't be bringing up the issue of speaking for people or not.

These questions are mine and I ask on my own, as a proposed citizen of Biafra. Abi cant a citizen ask question again? Okwaya?

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 8:58pm On Nov 20, 2016
igbo constitute the largest ethnic group in south south once u take out the igbos, ibibios and efik will automatically follow.


wat is left are segregated little groups with distinct separate languages and totally unrelated.


i will like to see how ijaw manages itsekiri, urhobo, benin and ishan.


Barcanista is absolutely clueless.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:00pm On Nov 20, 2016
mrvitalis:

If a referendum is done in niger delta, pro Biafra will win Rivers State, Akwa-Ibom(very slim margin), cross River, loss Delta by a small margin lose bayelsa and edo... . Over all the will secure 35% votes adding that to over 90% vote from the south East.. . The idea will get the desired 51% thats the truth

But i still prefer we remain in one Nigeria or at worst lower Niger Republic

Well, what about those that vote against Biafra? What will be their fate? Will they be in Nigeria or be in Biafra? Because some members of the populace will definitely vote for Biafra even in states where Referendum may fail.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:01pm On Nov 20, 2016
mrvitalis:

The national government will be very unattractive i tell u

How sure are you about this fact?

Federal Government is attractive even in the USA, the model for true federalism in the world!

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:02pm On Nov 20, 2016
waternogetenemy:
igbo constitute the largest ethnic group in south south once u take out the igbos, ibibios and efik will automatically follow.


wat is left are segregated little groups with distinct separate languages and totally unrelated.


i will like to see how ijaw manages itsekiri, urhobo, benin and ishan.


Barcanista is absolutely clueless.

Your statement concerning languages in the Niger Delta is biased and I can sense a bit of ethnophobia there.

In any case, it's your opinion.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by mrvitalis(m): 9:03pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Well, what about those that vote against Biafra? What will be their fate? Will they be in Nigeria or be in Biafra? Because some members of the populace will definitely vote for Biafra even in states where Referendum may fail.
Majority carries the vote.. . What about those that want UK to remain in European union.. Scotland for example. .. i will vite against Biafra tho

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Cooly100: 9:03pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Well, what about those that vote against Biafra? What will be their fate? Will they be in Nigeria or be in Biafra? Because some members of the populace will definitely vote for Biafra even in states where Referendum may fail.

What happened to those that lost out in Brexit or those that didn't want Scotland in UK? If you can't live in Biafra land, you can move to Zamfara...and that is it..No fuss!!!
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 9:04pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Your statement concerning languages in the Niger Delta is biased and I can sense a bit of ethnophobia there.

In any case, it's your opinion.


U dont understand the things u write about and it is a pity.

U love ur one size fits all approach abit too much and end up getting it all wrong.

First, wat is Biafra if i may ask you?

Second, do u think igbos dont like Nigeria?

Third, Which ethnic group is more Nigerian than Igbos?

Forth, can Nigeria continue without the igbos?

Fifth, if ur answer is yes to forth question, call a referendum and let igbos exit?

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Oyiboman69: 9:05pm On Nov 20, 2016
Olu20090:


Afonjas claiming Akwa Ibom. This people need help...go and focus on your Oduo Republic and stop worrying about our own struggle. I have never seen a people like this before in my life.
You lack etiquette undecided undecided

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by mrvitalis(m): 9:06pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


How sure are you about this fact?

Federal Government is attractive even in the USA, the model for true federalism in the world!
Biafra is proposing a system were the president controls only defence and foreign affairs... Each State Can develop without the centre that's what am saying

Election will be done by majority.. . And u know igbos are never that united

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:06pm On Nov 20, 2016
Cooly100:


What happened to those that lost out in Brexit or those that didn't want Scotland in UK? If you can't live in Biafra land, you can move to Zamfara...and that is it..No fuss!!!

You can't just make people move from their ancestral land because they lost or won a referendum. The right thing to do, in my opinion, is to setup a reconciliation committee to address the issues that those who voted against it want to be addressed.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 9:07pm On Nov 20, 2016
TonyeBarcanista is a run away coward, y make a wrong statement and run, classic sign of a yoruba or benin man.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:08pm On Nov 20, 2016
mrvitalis:

Biafra is proposing a system were the president controls only defence and foreign affairs... Each State Can develop without the centre that's what am saying

Election will be done by majority.. . And u know igbos are never that united

Well, you have a point- if only the presidency's power is totally limited. I give you this one.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Nobody: 9:09pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


I don't think you read my post. If you did you won't be bringing up the issue of speaking for people or not.

These questions are mine and I ask on my own, as a proposed citizen of Biafra. Abi cant a citizen ask question again? Okwaya?
I read your post thoroughly. What I deduced from you post was that you were speaking for the entire Ibibio's which is very wrong. Go back and re-read your post.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by jasysandra(f): 9:10pm On Nov 20, 2016
This issue of Biafrans including uninterested people in their Map is very funny. Delta state is even included in the map grin. I have been told severally by people across the Niger that Asaba igbo is not real igbo even when they can understand me clearly and I they. I just wonder how we will fare in a country such as biafra when we are already being discriminated against.


All ye barkers and eaters of destiny,if you mention me........... angry angry

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by CoolFreeday(m): 9:10pm On Nov 20, 2016
I wish them luck but I have some questions
1. The igbos are everywhere in Nigeria and have invested heavily in other part of Nigeria like nano, Lagos, abuja, Kaduna, etc, what happens to those investment because if they leave, you don't expect those left behind to allow them with their investment as it use to be. they remaining part of Nigeria won't allow them to continue with their investment andu businesses when their people don't have!
2. Igbos have land issues, getting a land in Igbo land is not easy, so how will they cope?
3. Igbos are predominantly business people, which means most of their members that will be returning will be returning with their businesses similar to the once they have already so what happened? who sell to who when almost everybody is selling the same thing.
4. Among the igbos they are some that are considered to be real igbos and stuffs, have that been address?
etc

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ndoeyopbennet: 9:10pm On Nov 20, 2016
badboywizzy:
I read your post thoroughly. What I deduced from you post was that you were speaking for the entire Ibibio's which is very wrong. Go back and re-read your post.

Well, I'm sorry if I gave that impression. What may I have done to imply that, if I may ask?
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by mrvitalis(m): 9:10pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


Well, you have a point- if only the presidency's power is totally limited. I give you this one.
Before referendum the people will be told the benefits of both options. .. i see more people going biafra way... Only people with fore sight we understand why it better to make Nigeria work

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Oyiboman69: 9:11pm On Nov 20, 2016
This Biafra issue is very very annoying...do they think an itsekiri man will join their unfortunate struggle... In fact make God punish una for this recession[sub][/sub]

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by LadyExcellency: 9:13pm On Nov 20, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Indeed, the Indigenous People of Delusion (IPOD) are confused.


CAVEAT:
By Ipod I'm referring to those aggressive and bitter bunch of internet trolls and not the great Igbo nation.

Is this what you've reduced yourself to after a free meal from Omenka?

It is well.

I remain IPOB with unquestionable class, distinction and commitment to success in all life endeavours.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by jasysandra(f): 9:13pm On Nov 20, 2016
Oyiboman69:
This Biafra issue is very very annoying...do they think an itsekiri man will join their unfortunate struggle... In fact make God punish una for this recession[sub][/sub]
make that punishment double grin

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by jasysandra(f): 9:14pm On Nov 20, 2016
waternogetenemy:
igbo constitute the largest ethnic group in south south once u take out the igbos, ibibios and efik will automatically follow.


wat is left are segregated little groups with distinct separate languages and totally unrelated.


i will like to see how ijaw manages itsekiri, urhobo, benin and ishan.


Barcanista is absolutely clueless.
DRY angry

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Cooly100: 9:16pm On Nov 20, 2016
ndoeyopbennet:


You can't just make people move from their ancestral land because they lost or won a referendum. The right thing to do, in my opinion, is to setup a reconciliation committee to address the issues that those who voted against it want to be addressed.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse here. Several groups exist in the south to for the independence of the south. It is just that IPOB is more aggressive...There are BILIE group, Lower Niger Congress, and others...Before referendum will be agreed, the leaders of all the ethnic group will meet to agree on modalities of the union...all interests and concerns will be aggregated and agreed...Definitely Nigeria template will never come into play and no ethnic group shall be powerful than the others...at the beginning the format for power sharing at the center, will rotate among agreed regions. I give you example...Enugu state has 3 senatorial zones, and governors rotate among them after every 8 years...and there has been peace...

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 9:16pm On Nov 20, 2016
jasysandra:
DRY angry

So u like to make faces abi? kiss
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Oyiboman69: 9:16pm On Nov 20, 2016
jasysandra:
make that punishment double grin
Don't mind those heartless ritualists and their useless struggle

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by santino09: 9:16pm On Nov 20, 2016
The way some people dey mumu sha, if u don't want Biafra, speak for your self or ur tribe. You can't be from Edo and speak for ijaw or be from ijaw and speak for ikwere. I'm taking to all those south southerners who like to say the whole Niger delta don't , like seriously when did ijaw ppl start speaking for anang or Ibibio or ikwere better go and repair ur head coz in pH here we in support of Biafra or anything that will take us from Nigeria. Don't you ever speak for all of us. Imagine the foolish talk sef, we in niger delta dont support this or that. Speak for ur self

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by jasysandra(f): 9:18pm On Nov 20, 2016
Olu20090:


Afonjas claiming Akwa Ibom. This people need help...go and focus on your Oduo Republic and stop worrying about our own struggle. I have never seen a people like this before in my life.
Your ability to think before you type is obviously six feet below. Tell us now, what point have you made?

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