Eastactivist:


You can't be more apt. Thanks for this nice immediate reply, you changed the course of this thread with your intelligentsia making the thread an enlightenment for Biafra discuss.

I owe you a bottle of Andre

LoveDecay:



I wish more of them can see it this way.

I get confused every time they say freedom. Today freedom is economic and at this moment Nigeria is the best chance they have ... This entire brouhaha is just crazy

Fremancipation:
The day IPOB will stop including the non-Igbos in the south south is the day I will swear my allegiance to them.

But for now I will continue to sit on the fence about the movement.

Stop trying to save people who prefer to stay in bondage. It will end up getting you killed.

ndoeyopbennet:


Are you an Ijaw person?

From which LGA and village please?

Eastactivist:


You can't be more apt. Thanks for this nice immediate reply, you changed the course of this thread with your intelligentsia making the thread an enlightenment for Biafra discuss.

I owe you a bottle of Andre

PenSniper:

[s]

A display of your crass naivety. Are you Indigenous People of Delusioners so daft that you must assume wboever airs an opinion contrary to your Biafra aspirations MUST be Yoruba ? So you are gullible enough to expect the entire peoples of six states of the south-south to be timidly quiet after you arrogantly annexed their region with your suicide mission ?
For how long will you run away from the truth and reality ? You are so intolerant and averse to intellectual debate. You certainly have a huge problem.[/s]

Olu20090:


dirty afonja...

playboy99:
meaning u still want to do bizness and have properties among dose you hate or hate u,n kill u for no reason pls what d logic it means u would still get the same treatment even wen u a nigerian citizen,or deres a way out?

pazienza:

1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.
You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement.
And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmate each other, there have never in history been a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.

2. Why should the capital location be an issue, since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG and go build up Lagos and Abuja?
It will be all province for themselves.
We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.

3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation.
Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature.
No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.

4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language.
English will remain the lingua franca.
But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.

The scenario you painted of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria.
Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.

Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area .
So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.

5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attacks by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra.
Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters.
How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.

This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from
Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions.
So, if you think we are hurling insults at those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning.
Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple.
I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.

6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president.
Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Eze aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.

We are more than capable of voting non Igbos.
By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.

7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?

Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.

Biafra will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box.
The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support and trust.

8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids.
Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused on issues occurring in distant non related lands.
Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.

As for your question on utopia. Biafra will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party.
It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive.
The possibilities are endless.
Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, as doing that will unbalance things and create chaos.

9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.

We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafra by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to form a nation.

When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.

That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.

10. Biafra is not going to be a parasitic state, so there won't be any need forcing any unwilling group into it.
If an ethnic group within the proposed Biafran area votes against Biafra , then they are free to go their way. It's as free as that.

As for electoral manipulation, you can't rig where you are not popular, it will cause chaos. IPOB is too resolute and more than capable of securing the votes and ensuring no such manipulation occur.
The Biafran structure will take care of Igbophobia, by first ensuring that overwhelmingly Igbophobic elements as found in Ijaw, Edo, Edoids don't become part of Biafra.

The total resource control to the provinces and decentralization of the government, that will create will a very weak centre and strong regions will eliminate the. thoughts of phantom Igbo hegemony that exist only in people's mind.

NB: I personally subscribe to an Igbo speaking only Biafra first and foremost, but not aversed to a Union of Igbo speaking people, Akwa Cross( with Andoni of course) and maybe Ogoni too.

BADNEAT:
If there's a referendum today , the southern people of the south will vote to leave with their brothers ...in no situation will they prefer to stay in Nigeria ...Biafra is just a name behind an ideology ...so whether biafra o, Niger delta republic, united states of the Niger , in no case will brothers split

amachuk:
you are a genius

laudate:


Chukwu biko! See finishing. Ol' boy, you for pity am small, nah. E don tay wey I don laugh like dis! Hehehe....

TonyeBarcanista:
I am not for or against anybody having their own country, what I am 100% sure of is that Ijaw nation and the entire Niger Delta is not and will never be part of any ipob Biafra.

I wish Agitators good luck!



BTW Do we still have Biafra agitators? I thought they have now collapsed their Biafra dream to be campaigning for Atiku?

Indeed, the Indigenous People of Delusion (IPOD) are confused.


CAVEAT:
By Ipod I'm referring to those aggressive and bitter bunch of internet trolls and not the great Igbo nation.

jasysandra:
This issue of Biafrans including uninterested people in their Map is very funny. Delta state is even included in the map . I have been told severally by people across the Niger that Asaba igbo is not real igbo even when they can understand me clearly and I they. I just wonder how we will fare in a country such as biafra when we are already being discriminated against.


All ye barkers and eaters of destiny,if you mention me...........

IPOB123london:
and the time now issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 10:46 Zoo time

as at now the hausa-fulani are the dominance right?

they control the country and they have even dash oga Yeye master tinubu inside gutter

at the other side they control oil blocks since 1960; most of them get rich if not for oil in the old eastern region.

their cattle move around the country destroying farms and the herdsmen go round killing many many people only for the gworo in aso rock to come and say the killers are not from nigeria; chikena

The oil oyibo companies and fg has destroyed your farming land which will take another 100 yrs to recuperate

still the baboons and monkeys are banging on Igbos like afonja

and u are seriously telling us black people are not insane; maddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

poster and TonyeBarcanista pls take some poison and leave

u are making me sick for real

Nevertheless when u are told IGBO are direct creation from heaven u think this is a joke

making sense they think ? illogical rubbish


ENVY

playboy99:
meaning u still want to do bizness and have properties among dose you hate or hate u,n kill u for no reason pls what d logic it means u would still get the same treatment even wen u a nigerian citizen,or deres a way out?

merahki:


True Story
My only submission to his beautiful contribution is to hate on the English Language (covers face..but seriously)
I mean, the colonial masters put us in this quagmire in the first place, why still have a love affair with their almighty language?
We cannot do away with it (some Africans, even eminent ones, feel the height of sophistication and intelligence is to master the Englis , but I digress)

We should use Sierra Leone as a case study and the way they have used and developed their Pidgin English (Krio)
It is an official lingua franca...in /on the/at the schools, work places, worship places, media, streets.....it was derived from English but I tell you, it is now as good as an African language as no Brit can understood it without learning it
Isn't that beautiful? And literacy lates and IQs have soared in that country since Krio (but of course )

Unfortunately my people(Igbos) are among the main ones who glory the most in English, so I don' t know if they can Africanise English by developing our "broken"
That would be all kinds of amazing, if they could embrace this, and would represent a way of breaking from the shackles of colonalisation which remains big time in our continent, pervasive, everywhere, in every nook and cranny.
Jeez
We do that, and Lugard would feel a pinch in his behind wherever he is now
Cheers

Cc pazienza, ceaz4r, MrAnalyst, gidgiddy

Whynotthetruth:


Your caveat means NOTHING because IPOB is a recognized group using its name derogatorily doesn't show common sense...

I saw your thread on ATIKU I hope when his boys bring envelope, you won't start singing ATIKU again

I saw you intimidating some guys with your utopian story on your integrity and how you can't be bought

Did you notice Deji was in Jonathan's birthday party?

Boy, I wait to see when you will grow up goodnight!!!

pazienza:


This is why an Igbo speaking only Biafra is very appealing to me.

It will give us the option of an Igbo national language.
But if we include non Igbo speaking groups, then we must compromise on this to accommodate them.

ndoeyopbennet:


I maintain my grounds that Biafra will succeed only when Igbos stop bringing in other unrelated tribes. The Urhobo-Isoko, Edos, Itsekiri, and even Ijaw, have nothing in common with Igbo, unlike Ibibio that shares some cultural affinity. Many Igbos, in trying to make the territory larger, forcefully added people who are uninterested, based on their popular opinions, in the map of the proposed Biafra.

Again, Igbos have been creating more enemies instead of making more friends. We need to build bridges as a people, not destroy them. Just because we don't need people to create a country doesn't mean we dont need good neighbours and allies. Igbos, especially the e-Ipodians, have managed to burn bridges with other groups, including Ibibio, based on what most of them say online.

It will be very ironic if a group demanding freedom from a contraption end up forcing people into another. Biafra will certainly be another Nigeria if its ethnic groups/minorities are too many.


All-in-all, we should advocate for self rule based on ethnic borders. Igbos should fight for igbo autonomy and not that of any other group. Such things breed resentment.

islandmoon:
Igbo said Port Harcourt is Igboland, Iweokocha or something like that

ndoeyopbennet:


I maintain my grounds that Biafra will succeed only when Igbos stop bringing in other unrelated tribes. The Urhobo-Isoko, Edos, Itsekiri, and even Ijaw, have nothing in common with Igbo, unlike Ibibio that shares some cultural affinity. Many Igbos, in trying to make the territory larger, forcefully added people who are uninterested, based on their popular opinions, in the map of the proposed Biafra.

Again, Igbos have been creating more enemies instead of making more friends. We need to build bridges as a people, not destroy them. Just because we don't need people to create a country doesn't mean we dont need good neighbours and allies. Igbos, especially the e-Ipodians, have managed to burn bridges with other groups, including Ibibio, based on what most of them say online.

It will be very ironic if a group demanding freedom from a contraption end up forcing people into another. Biafra will certainly be another Nigeria if its ethnic groups/minorities are too many.


All-in-all, we should advocate for self rule based on ethnic borders. Igbos should fight for igbo autonomy and not that of any other group. Such things breed resentment.

pazienza:


You are not wanted. You are the madness we seek to do away with. Stop seeking for cheap attention and deal with it.

Noneroone:
stop replying him. the attention seeker mathy001 is the same person as jasysandra and frathermathy, the urhobo loser that was complaining about the demise of their language in one thread.

Olu20090:


Afonjas claiming Akwa Ibom. This people need help...go and focus on your Oduo Republic and stop worrying about our own struggle. I have never seen a people like this before in my life.

ndoeyopbennet:


I am just raising issues.

I think a name like Lower Niger Republic, or something else will sail better if Biafrans really want non-Igbos to follow.