dmcdad:

Gbam! Small boiz of these days sef.

No mind am, he dey use 50 years joke near we

ddippset:
so which are the 6 teams you people always say are EPL title contenders every season? abeg name them.

The reason they might come with 6 teams is that, every season recently, some of the big 4 (man utd, man city , arsenal , chelsea)are being displaced . Especially last season. Compared to la liga where we have barca, real and atm most of the time sharing the top3 spots. you should grab their points.

dmcdad:

And yet, you guys always say La Liga is a 2 or 3 horse race. Make up your mind already! Gosh!

Everyone knows it. From kigali to goa, la liga title is among those known 3. Unless you want to deceive yourself.

sebod:

Bros, my post is with no regards to the current table. We have always heard how la liga is a two horse race while over six teams compete for the Epl which makes it more competitive than any other league. Or is Tottenham no longer part of the six teams because they are currently sitting fifth on the log? Would that mean Man United are also not part of the teams that compete?

La liga is a 2/3 horse race, that is 1000% correct. Meanwhile why shouldn't it be with regards to the current table? You would have had a solid point if spurs is in first 3 on epl table, because that would definitely show how poor epl is, at present. Man city , arsenal and even leicester are not doing badly in ucl, spurs at the moment are having bad time. Their poor run recently in epl, is a confirmation and definitely reflectiing in ucl. So you had no point to relegate epl's quality on that basis.

Lol, Sebod and Dmcdad, I for one have never been part of the argument, however, its obvious to all that Man utd are enduring arguably their worst spell right now just as it was with Chelsea last year.

Arsenal is always up there as a top 4 team, we all know that, its not always easy for them to win the league, all this one they are doing na IGG, the real serious guys, serious contenders over the years are, I'll like to group them:

Tier 1
Chelsea
Man city
Man Utd (b4 Fergie left)

This season, truth be told, right now, it is like a 3-horse race between Man city, Pool and Chelsea, forget the other dead teams.


Tier 2
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool( a strong team too but its just not easy for them to win it even tho, they have been impressive this year though.)

A perfect example of why the EPL is crazy is Leicester winning the league last season against all odds, maybe the big guys were just average or Leicester really deserved it, that's another topic on its own, what I sha know is that, we are still waiting for when Deportivo or even Malaga will win the LaLiga, Liezpeg or Hoffeinheim will win the Bundesliga, Crotone or even Fiorentina will win the Serie A like fvccking Leicester won the EPL.

airmark:


The reason they might come with 6 teams is that, every season recently, some of the big 4 (man utd, man city , arsenal , chelsea)are being displaced . Especially last season. Compared to la liga where we have barca, real and atm most of the time sharing the top3 spots. you should grab their points.



Everyone knows it. From kigali to goa, la liga title is among those known 3. Unless you want to deceive yourself.



La liga is a 2/3 horse race, that is 1000% correct. Meanwhile why shouldn't it be with regards to the current table? You would have had a solid point if spurs is in first 3 on epl table, because that would definitely show how poor epl is, at present. Man city , arsenal and even leicester are not doing badly in ucl, spurs at the moment are having bad time. Their poor run recently in epl, is a confirmation and definitely reflectiing in ucl. So you had no point to relegate epl's quality on that basis.

maybe the trio of barca, real, and athletico are way superior to the remaining 17 LA liga teams. But I tell you solemnly, if barca, real and athletico were infused into the EPL, the EPL title would become a 3 horse race between guess who! barca, madrid and athletico of course. Chelsea, Man u and Man city would only fight to play Thursday night football.

barackohandso:



Na im no come make you fit preserve my own, you mean say Trump na onijekuje. You serve our trademark drink too?

I serve our trademark drink alongside point-and-kill fish. You know as e dey go na.

Chelseafan1:
Lol, Sebod and Dmcdad, I for one have never been part of the argument, however, its obvious to all that Man utd are enduring arguably their worst spell right now just as it was with Chelsea last year.

Arsenal is always up there as a top 4 team, we all know that, its not always easy for them to win the league, all this one they are doing na IGG, the real serious guys, serious contenders over the years are, I'll like to group them:

Tier 1
Chelsea
Man city
Man Utd (b4 Fergie left)

This season, truth be told, right now, it is like a 3-horse race between Man city, Pool and Chelsea, forget the other dead teams.


Tier 2
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool( a strong team too but its just not easy for them to win it even tho, they have been impressive this year though.)

A perfect example of why the EPL is crazy is Leicester winning the league last season against all odds, maybe the big guys were just average or Leicester really deserved it, that's another topic on its own, what I sha know is that, we are still waiting for when Deportivo or even Malaga will win the LaLiga, Liezpeg or Hoffeinheim will win the Bundesliga, Crotone or even Fiorentina will win the Serie A like fvccking Leicester won the EPL.

Leicester winning the league only buttresses the points more on how mediocre the EPL is. You don't expect sporting Lisbon to win the UCL

Chelseafan1:
Lol, Sebod and Dmcdad, I for one have never been part of the argument, however, its obvious to all that Man utd are enduring arguably their worst spell right now just as it was with Chelsea last year.

Arsenal is always up there as a top 4 team, we all know that, its not always easy for them to win the league, all this one they are doing na IGG, the real serious guys, serious contenders over the years are, I'll like to group them:

Tier 1
Chelsea
Man city
Man Utd (b4 Fergie left)

This season, truth be told, right now, it is like a 3-horse race between Man city, Pool and Chelsea, forget the other dead teams.


Tier 2
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool( a strong team too but its just not easy for them to win it even tho, they have been impressive this year though.)

A perfect example of why the EPL is crazy is Leicester winning the league last season against all odds, maybe the big guys were just average or Leicester really deserved it, that's another topic on its own, what I sha know is that, we are still waiting for when Deportivo or even Malaga will win the LaLiga, Liezpeg or Hoffeinheim will win the Bundesliga, Crotone or even Fiorentina will win the Serie A like fvccking Leicester won the EPL.

Bro I get your point. But truth be told, Leicester deserved praise for what they did last season, regardless of the form of other teams. Nevertheless, it's no news all (yeah I mean all) big teams in the epl last season were either poor or average, or even below average to say the least.

What happened with Leicester last season was an obvious anomaly. The last time any other team (aside Barça and both Madrid clubs) won La Liga, it was in 2003 when Valencia did. That season, save for the introduction of Dinho and Edgar Davis in January of that season, Barça would have ended the season at the bottom half of the table. That was also still the Galactico era, where you know of course they (Madrid) didn't win any trophy. Hence, as much as Valencia, led by Benitez were great that season, it was down to the poor showing of the top guns that they won La Liga.

Meanwhile, how can you explain the fact that Madrid had won La Liga just once since Ronaldo joined them. No, tell me they are a small team too. Since he joined Madrid, save for once they (Real) and Atletico won it apiece, it was always Barça winning La Liga. If they were to be some small teams, you guys would equally have attributed it to Bundesliga, where just Bayern win the league almost all the time, bar the Dortmund upsets some few seasons back.
But thank goodness those 2 aren't small teams.

So you see... La Liga being a 2 or 3 horse race is mainly down to the quality of the top guns. Imagine Alaves winning Barça at the Camp Nuo, yet not even Tottenham in their wildest dream would dare that. Funny enough, when Barça wins, as they always do, you hear people saying La Liga is complete shiit, and how bad other teams are. But when Barça loses, then you hear how bad Barça is, without giving credit to the other team and how the competitive nature of the Liga had caused such an upset.

Be frank my guy... You EPL dudes are too full of yourselves when it comes to boasting about the League's competitive nature. Sometimes it's true no doubt, but other times it's just plain hype and nothing more.

Mourinho gave a silly analogy last year, as to why Barça won the Champions league and why its easy for the likes of Barça, Madrid, Bayern et al to win it. And I tagged it silly because all the reasons or excuses he used to back up his assertion were negated by Barça enroute to winning the UCL last year. So, sometimes you guys just overstate the competitiveness of the EPL, and thereby making others rather ridiculously easy when that's not the case.

Chelseafan1:
Lol, Sebod and Dmcdad, I for one have never been part of the argument, however, its obvious to all that Man utd are enduring arguably their worst spell right now just as it was with Chelsea last year.

Arsenal is always up there as a top 4 team, we all know that, its not always easy for them to win the league, all this one they are doing na IGG, the real serious guys, serious contenders over the years are, I'll like to group them:

Tier 1
Chelsea
Man city
Man Utd (b4 Fergie left)

This season, truth be told, right now, it is like a 3-horse race between Man city, Pool and Chelsea, forget the other dead teams.


Tier 2
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool( a strong team too but its just not easy for them to win it even tho, they have been impressive this year though.)

A perfect example of why the EPL is crazy is Leicester winning the league last season against all odds, maybe the big guys were just average or Leicester really deserved it, that's another topic on its own, what I sha know is that, we are still waiting for when Deportivo or even Malaga will win the LaLiga, Liezpeg or Hoffeinheim will win the Bundesliga, Crotone or even Fiorentina will win the Serie A like fvccking Leicester won the EPL.

I have seen Deportivo win the La liga

Gent also won the Belgian league

ddippset:
maybe the trio of barca, real, and athletico are way superior to the remaining 17 LA liga teams. But I tell you solemnly, if barca, real and athletico were infused into the EPL, the EPL title would become a 3 horse race between guess who! barca, madrid and athletico of course. Chelsea, Man u and Man city would only fight to play Thursday night football.

Just like Champions League became a 3 horse race. Real and Atletico have played 2 finals in 3 yrs and Barca the other final

airmark:
Spurs that could only win 1 out of their last 5 epl matches?. Ofcourse, we can also say real sociedad is a la liga title contender because they are number 5 on the table, just like tottenham.

You are extremely foolish

Atletico has also won 1 out of their last 4 La Liga games and they are not even in top 5. So I ask is Atletico one of the contenders in La Liga or they are not

sebod:

Bros, my post is with no regards to the current table. We have always heard how la liga is a two horse race while over six teams compete for the Epl which makes it more competitive than any other league. Or is Tottenham no longer part of the six teams because they are currently sitting fifth on the log? Would that mean Man United are also not part of the teams that compete?

Who can get the quote of the poster who said some weeks ago on this forum that EPL is contested among 6 teams

Now someone is asking when Spurs last won the league, When did Arsenal or Liverpool win last to be included?

raumdeuter:


I have seen Deportivo win the La liga

Gent also won the Belgian league

Just look at this, did I mention the Belgian league, I knew the leagues I wanted to mention.

Those are the big teams.

When did Deportivo win the LaLiga?

dmcdad:


Be frank my guy... You EPL dudes are too full of yourselves when it comes to boasting about the League's competitive nature. Sometimes it's true no doubt, but other times it's just plain hype and nothing more.

Its mostly driven by ignorance and inferiority complex

Its a bid to explain why they are failing in Europe. When they fail we hear all sort of excuses like they are not taking it serious, Its the lack of winter break (Yet at least 1 EPL club crash out of CL before winter- Spurs 2016, Man Utd-2015, Liverpool-2014, Chelsea-2012), Its the number of games (Yet I have seen La liga sides play more games per season).
Madrid will be travelling to some far country for CLub world cup like Barca did last yr, yet those arent complaining of fatique or exhaustion, Its the lub that will travel few miles from London to Manchester that is complaining

When Spurs have played 5 CL games lost 3 in a group of Monaco, Leverkusen and CSKA yet they are unbeaten in the EPL

If someone scores a header, equalizes late, dribble a defender, tackle a striker we hear that can only happen in the EPL

Chelseafan1:
Just look at this, did I mention the Belgian league, I knew the leagues I wanted to mention.
Those are the big teams.
When did Deportivo win the LaLiga?

Deportivo won the league in 2000 which is more recent than Liverpool, Spurs Everton won

raumdeuter:


Just like Champions League became a 3 horse race. Real and Atletico have played 2 finals in 3 yrs and Barca the other final

exactly what am talking about. it isn't really a case of LA liga not being competitive. its more of barca, athletic and real being far superior to other clubs in spain. take these 3 teams to england and they would win the next 10 league titles amongst themselves.

ddippset:
exactly what am talking about. it isn't really a case of LA liga not being competitive. its more of barca, athletic and real being far superior to other clubs in spain. take these 3 teams to england and they would win the next 10 league titles amongst themselves.

The three are far superior to 99% of clubs in Europe, the only clubs who can dream of even coming close to them are not even in EPL

Put the 3 in EPL and they would put a 20point gap between them and the others by January

raumdeuter:


You are extremely foolish

Atletico has also won [b]1 out of their last 4 [/b]La Liga games and they are not even in top 5. So I ask is Atletico one of the contenders in La Liga or they are not

Even when you are not called you will still bring forward your bald head for spanking. When you want to juxtapose, apply sense. unless you are proving that what ate up the hair on your head also permeated and did internal damage to your brain. I wasn't surprised you have always had issues with numbers. Someone who didnt even know the number of ucl trophies his club won. A mad man will not know the difference between 4 and 5. Ogbomosho w,eed is to blame.

dmcdad:

Bro I get your point. But truth be told, Leicester deserved praise for what they did last season, regardless of the form of other teams. Nevertheless, it's no news all (yeah I mean all) big teams in the epl last season were either poor or average, or even below average to say the least.

What happened with Leicester last season was an obvious anomaly. The last time any other team (aside Barça and both Madrid clubs) won La Liga, it was in 2003 when Valencia did. That season, save for the introduction of Dinho and Edgar Davis in January of that season, Barça would have ended the season at the bottom half of the table. That was also still the Galactico era, where you know of course they (Madrid) didn't win any trophy. Hence, as much as Valencia, led by Benitez were great that season, it was down to the poor showing of the top guns that they won La Liga.

Meanwhile, how can you explain the fact that Madrid had won La Liga just once since Ronaldo joined them. No, tell me they are a small team too. Since he joined Madrid, save for once they (Real) and Atletico won it apiece, it was always Barça winning La Liga. If they were to be some small teams, you guys would equally have attributed it to Bundesliga, where just Bayern win the league almost all the time, bar the Dortmund upsets some few seasons back.
But thank goodness those 2 aren't small teams.

So you see... La Liga being a 2 or 3 horse race is mainly down to the quality of the top guns. Imagine Alaves winning Barça at the Camp Nuo, yet not even Tottenham in their wildest dream would dare that. Funny enough, when Barça wins, as they always do, you hear people saying La Liga is complete shiit, and how bad other teams are. But when Barça loses, then you hear how bad Barça is, without giving credit to the other team and how the competitive nature of the Liga had caused such an upset.

Be frank my guy... You EPL dudes are too full of yourselves when it comes to boasting about the League's competitive nature. Sometimes it's true no doubt, but other times it's just plain hype and nothing more.

Mourinho gave a silly analogy last year, as to why Barça won the Champions league and why its easy for the likes of Barça, Madrid, Bayern et al to win it. And I tagged it silly because all the reasons or excuses he used to back up his assertion were negated by Barça enroute to winning the UCL last year. So, sometimes you guys just overstate the competitiveness of the EPL, and thereby making others rather ridiculously easy when that's not the case.

Lol, you have spoken well and I wouldn't agree less with your assertions, I mean, I for one never expected Alaves to defeat Barca or Malaga getting a point, not when I even staked my money on Barca to win with that ridiculous 1.12 odds.


LaLiga is still better, I mean its getting emulous, especially this season, it's that Bundesliga we shouldn't even talk about and the Serie A.....Bayern enjoys a great monopoly in that league, they can afford to poach the best players in the league thereby vitiating their closest rivals.

It rarely happens like that in the EPL or Spanish league. (talking about arch rivals now)

ddippset:
maybe the trio of barca, real, and athletico are way superior to the remaining 17 LA liga teams. But I tell you solemnly, if barca, real and athletico were infused into the EPL, the EPL title would become a 3 horse race between guess who! barca, madrid and athletico of course. Chelsea, Man u and Man city would only fight to play Thursday night football.

We have seen how barca struggled in the hands of liverpool and especially chelsea in the past. Sevilla was sodomised back to back last season by man city. Man city strangled barca to death few weeks ago. One crazy defender in stoke is enough to send barca to mid table, after rupturing messi's ankle. There is a reason messi hasn't found the net against chelsea in as many meetings. Stop your delusions.

airmark:

Even when you are not called you will still bring forward your bald head for spanking. When you want to juxtapose, apply sense. unless you are proving that what ate up the hair on your head also permeated and did internal damage to your brain. I wasn't surprised you have always had issues with numbers. Someone who didnt even know the number of ucl trophies his club won. A mad man will not know the difference between 4 and 5. Ogbomosho w,eed is to blame.

You are too foolish to even see your blatant foolishness
Atletico is 6th in the league, Spurs is 5th
Atletico have less points than Spurs do in the league,
Atletico is in worse league form than Spurs is
While Spurs have 7 points from their last 5 games, Atletico has 6 points from their last 5 games
Yet Atletico is not gicing excuses nor failing in the CL its Spurs thats failing
Only a cranially inverted being like you wont see the analogy apoda

raumdeuter:


Deportivo won the league in 2000 which is more recent than Liverpool, Spurs Everton won

But we had Leicester won it last season, Liverpool, Spurs and Everton can be said to be better than them generally.

ddippset:
exactly what am talking about. it isn't really a case of LA liga not being competitive. its more of barca, athletic and real being far superior to other clubs in spain. take these 3 teams to england and they would win the next 10 league titles amongst themselves.

While I think you have a good point, we still can't be 100% sure.

You wanna know why I think so?

Prosecutor asking for a two year jail term for Neymar.



LOL...Flo P..I troway salute.

airmark:
We have seen how barca struggled in the hands of liverpool and especially chelsea in the past. Sevilla was sodomised back to back last season by man city. Man city strangled barca to death few weeks ago. One crazy defender in stoke is enough to send barca to mid table, after rupturing messi's ankle. There is a reason messi hasn't found the net against chelsea in as many meetings. Stop your delusions.

This is the type of foolishness we talk about.
Barcelona in the past 10yrs won 4 CL, 3 of those they beat an EPL team in the final
Atletico serially molested Chelsea both in Super cup + CL. Their last 3 meetings have ended 7-2 aggregates in favor of Atletico
Madrid have beaten every EPL team they faced City last yr, Liverpool even surrendered before halftime in Anfield in 2014
Sevilla beat Liverpool into a coma last Europa finals
Barca have played Man City 6 times in recent years won 5 lost 1
If I remember correctly, Messi has played EPL teams 15 times scored 17 goals, Didn they forget how to tackle him in those games?

This is why the consensus here is that you are clinically insane

Chelseafan1:
While I think you have a good point, we still can't be 100% sure.
You wanna know why I think so?

Nothing is 100% sure. If you fight Mayweather I am not 100% sure he will beat you, But I know where to stake my money

airmark:


We have seen how barca struggled in the hands of liverpool and especially chelsea in the past. Sevilla was sodomised back to back last season by man city. Man city strangled barca to death few weeks ago. One crazy defender in stoke is enough to send barca to mid table, after rupturing messi's ankle. There is a reason messi hasn't found the net against chelsea in as many meetings. Stop your delusions.

bullshhhhhhhhht. iam not saying that athletico,barca and Madrid wouldn't lose a single game in the EPL, they would. they are superior to all LA liga teams but they still do lose from time to time. pair barca against mancity 5 times and barca would win 4 times. sane way against arsenal, and man u. Chelsea might then be the real sociedad of the EPL, and be the boogie team to barca. don't kid yaself bro, barca against Stoke city would end up 6-0. against athletic would be 4-0, against Madrid would be 6-1.

Neymar is the newest guy hit with corruption case oo. The Spanish prosecutor wants him to spend 2 years behind bars.

Chelseafan1:

While I think you have a good point, we still can't be 100% sure.
You wanna know why I think so?

yes sir.

airmark:


We have seen how barca struggled in the hands of liverpool and especially chelsea in the past. Sevilla was sodomised back to back last season by man city. Man city strangled barca to death few weeks ago. One crazy defender in stoke is enough to send barca to mid table, after rupturing messi's ankle. There is a reason messi hasn't found the net against chelsea in as many meetings. Stop your delusions.

Which team in EPL has a stronger defence than Atletico?

raumdeuter:


Nothing is 100% sure. If you fight Mayweather I am not 100% sure he will beat you, But I know where to stake my money

Well, they would need the best and quality players to consistently win the league. Agreed?

Chelseafan1:
Well, they would need the best and quality players to consistently win the league. Agreed?

Yes and most of the players that they built on for the past 10yrs have mostly been home grown like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Busquets. More than any top team in Europe which will leave them with enough money to still buy top players like Alves, Etoo, Suarez and Neymar

raumdeuter:


[s]This is the type of foolishness we talk about.
Barcelona in the past 10yrs won 4 CL, 3 of those they beat an EPL team in the final[/s]
Atletico serially molested Chelsea both in Super cup + CL. Their last 3 meetings have ended 7-2 aggregates in favor of Atletico
[s]Madrid have beaten every EPL team they faced City last yr, Liverpool even surrendered before halftime in Anfield in 2014
Sevilla beat Liverpool into a coma last Europa finals
Barca have played Man City 6 times in recent years won 5 lost 1
If I remember correctly, Messi has played EPL teams 15 times scored 17 goals, Didn they forget how to tackle him in those games?

This is why the consensus here is that you are clinically insane[/s]

Apari oshi , o ti dun werey. I hope you remember chelsea killed the same atl madrid 4-0 in the biggest win between the two? Mind you, what i asked you was how did ''1 win out of 5 matches'' the same thing as your ''1 win out of 4 matches ''? I have no time for rubbish you are reeling out. Next time bring likes for likes, dopemu.