ddippset:
yes sir.

Thank you, to consistently win the league, 95% of the time, you need great and quality, World best players to do that.....no matter how good a coach is.

Ok now, Lets assume Barca, Madrid and Atletico ply their trade in the EPL where we have Pool, Chelsea, MAN UTD, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton

Do u think Man Utd will allow Cr7 to join Madrid in the same league, U think Pool will allow Suarez join Barca in the same league, Sanchez to join Chelsea, U think Chelsea will allow Hazard join Atletico, Spurs will release Bale and Modric to join Madrid in the same league, Lets be honest bro, it won't happen.

These are the best players who left the EPL for the 2 best teams dominating the UCL, look at the number of Ballon D'or that has been won between Ronaldo and Messi alone.


There is a reason these two teams are the best.


You can't fault this except you chose not to be sincere with yourself.

airmark:




Apari oshi , o ti dun werey. I hope you remember chelsea killed the same atl madrid 4-0 in the biggest win between the two? Mind you, what i asked you was how did ''1 win out of 5 matches'' the same thing as your ''1 win out of 4 matches ''? I have no time for rubbish you are reeling out. Next time bring likes for likes, dopemu.

You are too foolish to even see your blatant foolishness
Atletico is 6th in the league, Spurs is 5th
Atletico have less points than Spurs do in the league,
Atletico is in worse league form than Spurs is
While Spurs have 7 points from their last 5 games, Atletico has 6 points from their last 5 games
Yet Atletico is not gicing excuses nor failing in the CL its Spurs thats failing
Only a cranially inverted being like you wont see the analogy apoda

ddippset:
bullshhhhhhhhht. iam not saying that athletico,barca and Madrid wouldn't lose a single game in the EPL, they would. they are superior to all LA liga teams but they still do lose from time to time. pair barca against mancity 5 times and barca would win 4 times. sane way against arsenal, and man u. Chelsea might then be the real sociedad of the EPL, and be the boogie team to barca. don't kid yaself bro, barca against Stoke city would end up 6-0. against athletic would be 4-0, against Madrid would be 6-1.

We have been reading these since way back. Even when liverpool came to sodomise barca at home. Ronaldo really exposed la liga as a weak league for a star player if you are in barca and madrid. Apart from the 3 teams and sevilla, valencia,villareal, other teams are like championship sides in quality.

raumdeuter:


You are too foolish to even see your blatant foolishness
Atletico is 6th in the league, Spurs is 5th
Atletico have less points than Spurs do in the league,
Atletico is in worse league form than Spurs is
While Spurs have 7 points from their last 5 games, Atletico has 6 points from their last 5 games
Yet Atletico is not gicing excuses nor failing in the CL its Spurs thats failing
Only a cranially inverted being like you wont see the analogy apoda

''1 win out of 5 matches'' = ''1 win out of 4 matches ''

Chelseafan1:


Thank you, to consistently win the league, 95% of the time, you need great and quality, World best players to do that.....no matter how good a coach is.

Ok now, Lets assume Barca, Madrid and Atletico ply their trade in the EPL where we have Pool, Chelsea, MAN UTD, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton

Do u think Man Utd will allow Cr7 to join Madrid in the same league, U think Pool will allow Suarez join Barca in the same league, Sanchez to join Chelsea, U think Chelsea will allow Hazard join Atletico, Spurs will release Bale and Modric to join Madrid in the same league, Lets be honest bro, it won't happen.

These are the best players who left the EPL for the 2 best teams dominating the UCL, look at the number of Ballon D'or that has been won between Ronaldo and Messi alone.


There is a reason these two teams are the best.


You can't fault this except you chose not to be sincere with yourself.

As at 2009-2012. How many EPL products were in Barca? Mind u, Barca had already won 16 trophies in the space of these years.

TRendlona:


Which team in EPL has a stronger defence than Atletico?

tell them

raumdeuter:


This is the type of foolishness we talk about.
Barcelona in the past 10yrs won 4 CL, 3 of those they beat an EPL team in the final
Atletico serially molested Chelsea both in Super cup + CL. Their last 3 meetings have ended 7-2 aggregates in favor of Atletico
Madrid have beaten every EPL team they faced City last yr, Liverpool even surrendered before halftime in Anfield in 2014
Sevilla beat Liverpool into a coma last Europa finals
Barca have played Man City 6 times in recent years won 5 lost 1
If I remember correctly, Messi has played EPL teams 15 times scored 17 goals, Didn they forget how to tackle him in those games?

This is why the consensus here is that you are clinically insane

thats the truth. Airmark and chelseafan1 why this mediocrity?

airmark:


''1 win out of 5 matches'' = ''1 win out of 4 matches ''

Spurs 7 points out of last 5 matches, Atletico 6 points out of last 5 league matches
Who is in worse form

airmark:



We have been reading these since way back. Even when liverpool came to sodomise barca at home. Ronaldo really exposed la liga as a weak league for a star player if you are in barca and madrid. Apart from the 3 teams and sevilla, valencia,villareal, other teams are like championship sides in quality.

The same Ronaldo that broke records in the EPL or another Ronaldo?

The amount of ucl shared between Madrid and Barca exceeds Ucl from top 6 epl teams. If you want to see the best players in the world you know where to go. The ultimate dream of any player is to play for barca and madrid and you say epl is the best?
Keep smoking what you are smoking

airmark:



We have been reading these since way back. Even when liverpool came to sodomise barca at home. Ronaldo really exposed la liga as a weak league for a star player if you are in barca and madrid. Apart from the 3 teams and sevilla, valencia,villareal, other teams are like championship sides in quality.

heck even hercules beat barca at home, even celta did. what's the big deal? we're comparing EPL teams with LA liga and all you could utter is Liverpool and stoke city? lol. those teams can't even play champions league football.

TRendlona:





As at 2009-2012. How many EPL products were in Barca? Mind u, Barca had already won 16 trophies in the space of these years.

You obviously do not understand what we are talking about.

airmark:



We have been reading these since way back. Even[b] when liverpool came to sodomise barca at home[/b]. Ronaldo really exposed la liga as a weak league for a star player if you are in barca and madrid. Apart from the 3 teams and sevilla, valencia,villareal, other teams are like championship sides in quality.

We've battered Liverpool at home twice, Chelsea lost to us at Stamford Bridge, Arsenal kor, City kor, even man United.

Sevilla has won more European trophies than Chelsea + Arsenal + Tottenham combined.

Deportivo have won more league titles than Tottenham. If Tottenham play in la liga, they will be relegated.

raumdeuter:


Spurs 7 points out of last 5 matches, Atletico 6 points out of last 5 league matches
Who is in worse form

while atletico dropped points to teams above her (real madrid , sevilla and sociedad) on the table, spurs could only win west ham 13th placed, and coudn't beat westbrom and bournemouth. Apply your brain and give a sensible verdict.

ddippset:
[s]heck even hercules beat barca at home, even celta did. what's the big deal? we're comparing EPL teams with LA liga and all you could[/s] utter is Liverpool and stoke city? lol. those teams can't even play champions league football.

Yet, your team broke the till to get suarez from the same liverpool and already looking at coutinho to save your pathetic midfield. Xavi confirmed his quality as the best midfielder in europe now. Apart from the players in those three teams in la liga, Can you list 11 world class players in the remaining clubs in la liga ? What we have are the likes of sarabia who would be doing a back pass when in box 6 to his mate already marked outside of box 18.

Debroslink:


[s]We've battered Liverpool at home twice, Chelsea lost to us at Stamford Bridge, Arsenal kor, City kor, even man United. [/s]

Sevilla has won more European trophies than Chelsea + Arsenal + Tottenham combined.

[s]Deportivo have won more league titles than Tottenham. If Tottenham play in la liga, they will be relegated. [/s]

If we take you on the emboldened now, you will start stammering, editing your reckless lines .

airmark:


while atletico dropped points to teams above her (real madrid , sevilla and sociedad) on the table, spurs could only win west ham 13th placed, and coudn't beat westbrom and bournemouth. Apply your brain and give a sensible verdict.



Yet, your team broke the till to get suarez from the same liverpool and already looking at coutinho to save your pathetic midfield. Xavi confirmed his quality as the best midfielder in europe now. Apart from the players in those three teams in la liga, Can you list 11 world class players in the remaining clubs in la liga ? What we have are the likes of sarabia who would be doing a back pass when in box 6 to his mate already marked outside of box 18.

most 'world class' players in the EPL are only 'world class' because of the English media, the English hype, the wide coverage of the premier league. l repeat sevilla, Bilbao, villareal, Valencia are more than enough competition for man u, man city, arsenal and Chelsea. don't believe the hype. barca, Madrid and athleti are giants and way above the level of any EPL team. BTW, the way you are crossing out our posts shows that you are angry. iam just having a discussion and having fun too. why the anger?

airmark:


The reason they might come with 6 teams is that, every season recently, some of the big 4 (man utd, man city , arsenal , chelsea)are being displaced . Especially last season. Compared to la liga where we have barca, real and atm most of the time sharing the top3 spots. you should grab their points.



Everyone knows it. From kigali to goa, la liga title is among those known 3. Unless you want to deceive yourself.



La liga is a 2/3 horse race, that is 1000% correct. [b]Meanwhile why shouldn't it be with regards to the current table? You would have had a solid point if spurs is in first 3 on epl table, because that would definitely show how poor epl is, at present. [/b]Man city , arsenal and even leicester are not doing badly in ucl, spurs at the moment are having bad time. Their poor run recently in epl, is a confirmation and definitely reflectiing in ucl. So you had no point to relegate epl's quality on that basis.

Lol.... la liga is 2/3 horse race, and Atletico is currently sitting 6th on the table. using your logic, since Spurs can no longer be regarded as part of the regular six epl chasers because of their current position on the log, then, Atletico is automatically out of the race leaving only Barca and Madrid.
By the way, I am still expecting the regular six Epl contenders every season since Spurs should not be counted as one.

Chelseafan1:
Lol, Sebod and Dmcdad, I for one have never been part of the argument, however, its obvious to all that Man utd are enduring arguably their worst spell right now just as it was with Chelsea last year.

Arsenal is always up there as a top 4 team, we all know that, its not always easy for them to win the league, all this one they are doing na IGG, the real serious guys, serious contenders over the years are, I'll like to group them:

Tier 1
Chelsea
Man city
Man Utd (b4 Fergie left)

This season, truth be told, right now, it is like a 3-horse race between Man city, Pool and Chelsea, forget the other dead teams.


Tier 2
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool( a strong team too but its just not easy for them to win it even tho, they have been impressive this year though.)

A perfect example of why the EPL is crazy is Leicester winning the league last season against all odds, maybe the big guys were just average or Leicester really deserved it, that's another topic on its own, what I sha know is that, we are still waiting for when Deportivo or even Malaga will win the LaLiga, Liezpeg or Hoffeinheim will win the Bundesliga, Crotone or even Fiorentina will win the Serie A like fvccking Leicester won the EPL.

Dmcdad has said it all.
And, going by this your submission, since the era of Fergie has gone never to come back again, can we conclude the Epl is also a two horse race between City and Chelsea?
Also, going by this your honest submission, can we conclude there's no regular six Epl chasers as most have always claimed?

raumdeuter:


Who can get the quote of the poster who said some weeks ago on this forum that EPL is contested among 6 teams

Now someone is asking when Spurs last won the league, When did Arsenal or Liverpool win last to be included?

Lol...contradiction everywhere. suddenly Spurs are not part of the six epl chasers because they sit fifth on the log

sebod:

Dmcdad has said it all.
And, going by this your submission, since the era of Fergie has gone never to come back again, can we conclude the Epl is also a two horse race between City and Chelsea?
Also, going by this your honest submission, can we conclude there's no regular six Epl chasers as most have always claimed?

Man Utd will still get back to their feet, they have the players and Mou is still a top coach, forget the banters and all, Liverpool is looking rejuvenated, so, we can't conclude the EPL is a 2 horse race.

Arsenal is just always there to mark attendance and make the top 4, maybe that might change soon, maybe.

Just like I submitted earlier,

First Tier right now has Liverpool, MAN city and Chelsea, (a spot is reserved for Manutd till they start getting it right) thats 4 strong teams


2nd Tier has Arsenal, Spurs, I can't think of any other team that comes close.

These are teams that have quality future star players in abundance, some of the players Madrid, Barca might eventually poach away in the nearest future.


Ddippset, I am still expecting your thoughts on what I posted to you.

ddippset:
most 'world class' players in the EPL are only 'world class' because of the English media, the English hype, the wide coverage of the premier league. l repeat sevilla, Bilbao, villareal, Valencia are more than enough competition for man u, man city, arsenal and Chelsea. don't believe the hype. barca, Madrid and athleti are giants and way above the level of any EPL team. BTW, the way you are crossing out our posts shows that you are angry. iam just having a discussion and having fun too. why the anger?

Epl world class players are media hypes, but madrid and barca wont stop coming for them. Ronaldo, bale, modric, suarez and co. Xavi must be working for BBC for hyping coutinho too. Zidane hyping hazard ? Try another bro. You must be joking as regards those villareal etc being competition to the big4 in epl.

Bale to miss the Clasico.


Why Madrid get luck like this?

ollah1:
You guys got no chills oo. U just murdered the EPL fanboys. They all know the truth but wouldn't just admit.

Their bubble don burst.

airmark:


If we take you on the emboldened now, you will start stammering, editing your reckless lines .

There are 3 current European titles: UCL, Europa and UEFA super cup.

Sevilla has won more of these than Chelsea + Arsenal + Tottenham combined. Don't argue with facts.


It is easier for Sevilla, Bilbao, Valencia and Villarreal to win the EPL than LA liga. Imagine a poor and average club like Leicester winning LA liga?

Debroslink:


There are 3 current European titles: UCL, Europa and UEFA super cup.

[s]Sevilla has won more of these than Chelsea + Arsenal + Tottenham combined. Don't argue with facts.[/s]

Thats what i was talking about. Now edited to 3 current european titles. You a joke.

raumdeuter:


You are too foolish to even see your blatant foolishness
Atletico is 6th in the league, Spurs is 5th
Atletico have less points than Spurs do in the league,
Atletico is in worse league form than Spurs is
While Spurs have 7 points from their last 5 games, Atletico has 6 points from their last 5 games
Yet Atletico is not gicing excuses nor failing in the CL its Spurs thats failing
Only a cranially inverted being like you wont see the analogy apoda

Common, that Spurs team has little experience in the CL although they should have done better than the rubbish they served. They will likely get better..

airmark:


Epl world class players are media hypes, but madrid and barca wont stop coming for them. Ronaldo, bale, modric, suarez and co. Xavi must be working for BBC for hyping coutinho too. Zidane hyping hazard ? Try another bro. You must be joking as regards those villareal etc being competition to the big4 in epl.

these players you mentioned play in LA liga now so let's not turn back the hands of time. what I mean is that there are players at Villarreal, sevilla, Valencia, Bilbao, malaga who are technically more gifted than the big names you here in the big teams I'd england, like pogba, mata, ozil, Sanchez, hazard. these players only don't get the same exposure like the players in Spain, Italy and Germany. If these 7 teams ; barca, Madrid, athleti, juve, Dortmund, Bayern, and PSG move to the EPL, man city, man u and arsenal would be left fighting for 8th spot.

Kagawa10:
Common, that Spurs team has little experience in the CL although they should have done better than the rubbish they served. They will likely get better..

If it comes to Leicester you will say its the beauty of EPL thats making them progress without experience, If its Spurs we say its lack of experience in the CL.

These Spurs players play Europe almost every season and they had a group of EUropa level teams so that excuse is invalid

Players like Son, Eriksen Lamela, Lloris Alderwereld all have CL experiences

ddippset:
these players you mentioned play in LA liga now so let's not turn back the hands of time. what I mean is that there are players at Villarreal, sevilla, Valencia, Bilbao, malaga who are technically more gifted than the big names you here in the big teams I'd england, like pogba, mata, ozil, Sanchez, hazard. these players only don't get the same exposure like the players in Spain, Italy and Germany. If these 7 teams ; barca, Madrid, athleti, juve, Dortmund, Bayern, and PSG move to the EPL, man city, man u and arsenal would be left fighting for 8th spot.

Why wouldn't i turn back the hands of time? Did the english media hype start last year ? Ronaldo, bale and co were hyped and that was why barca and real paid hugely to get them and they justified it. Since you lost this arguement, it's better you dont raise that next time. Nzonzi who was sold for peanuts away from epl is the one barca is trying to lure to their team. Now , name the players in villareal and other moribund la liga teams that are better technically than sanchez and hazard?

sebod:

Lol...contradiction everywhere. suddenly Spurs are not part of the six epl chasers because they sit fifth on the log

Yes o But when Barca was sitting in 5th they still claimed Barca was part of why La Liga is a 2horse race

Chelseafan1:


Thank you, to consistently win the league, 95% of the time, you need great and quality, World best players to do that.....no matter how good a coach is.

Ok now, Lets assume Barca, Madrid and Atletico ply their trade in the EPL where we have Pool, Chelsea, MAN UTD, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton

Do u think Man Utd will allow Cr7 to join Madrid in the same league, U think Pool will allow Suarez join Barca in the same league, Sanchez to join Chelsea, U think Chelsea will allow Hazard join Atletico, Spurs will release Bale and Modric to join Madrid in the same league, Lets be honest bro, it won't happen.

These are the best players who left the EPL for the 2 best teams dominating the UCL, look at the number of Ballon D'or that has been won between Ronaldo and Messi alone.


There is a reason these two teams are the best.


You can't fault this except you chose not to be sincere with yourself.

you made valid points but don't you think the style of football which differs in both countries could be a factor as well? Spain prefer technicality, England prefers physicality. its akin to light versus darkness.

airmark:


Thats what i was talking about. Now edited to 3 current european titles. You a joke.

How many European titles exist presently? Don't drag us to the medieval era of inter toto cups and extinct cup winners cup.