thorpido:
I will agree that nurses and other health workers need to show more empathy.However,the bolded part of your posts raises questions.First she was told to walk up and down to aid her labour so it wasn't a punishment.
The second part is really the issue.Tell me why a pregnant woman who falls into labour has no bag packed for delivery?Do you know out of 10 patients in a government hospital,about 3 or 4 will present that way?How do you keep working with people like this and not get frustrated?The government provides limited resources so you really don't have extras in the hospital.There is poverty in the land but I think many patients are just careless.
Do you know many health care workers provide for patients from their pockets?

HaneefahRN:



Seriously?!

The way some Nigerians reason ehn. A woman will attend ante -natal for 9 good months (for those that are even regular) but come on delivery day without even a single pin! How frustrating can that be? Are they to deliver her with their bare hands, or cover the baby with leaves or even buy what she needs for her from their own salaries? Tips will be given during ante-natal o how to go about buying the requirements bit by bit till delivery date but many clients will still present without even a pin, maybe one wrapper.
Then they react and people call them rude and uncompassionate

thorpido:
I will agree that nurses and other health workers need to show more empathy.However,the bolded part of your posts raises questions.First she was told to walk up and down to aid her labour so it wasn't a punishment.
The second part is really the issue.Tell me why a pregnant woman who falls into labour has no bag packed for delivery?Do you know out of 10 patients in a government hospital,about 3 or 4 will present that way?How do you keep working with people like this and not get frustrated?The government provides limited resources so you really don't have extras in the hospital.There is poverty in the land but I think many patients are just careless.
Do you know many health care workers provide for patients from their pockets?

thorpido:
Do you know that at the station where I work,a woman who just delivered(though she lost the baby) absconded from the hospital without settling bills?Tomorrow if patients come and you say pay a deposit,people start shouting,ah ah,why are they always asking for money first?
We are all products of the enivironment.The patients have their faults too.

Richy4:


In as much as I agreed with you, I wish you saw the state of the woman...Since I was born, I have never seen someone in such a sorry state..and I pray never to see it....even if she doesn't have those necessary things... kind words could go a long way helping to ease her pains....Totally ignoring her because she doesn't have a bloody hand-glove and soap was not ok...There are ways to make people feel comfortable and dignified in Government hospital even without treatment...

Richy4:


In as much as I agreed with you, I wish you saw the state of the woman...Since I was born, I have never seen someone in such a sorry state..and I pray never to see it....even if she doesn't have those necessary things... kind words could go a long way helping to ease her pains....Totally ignoring her because she doesn't have a bloody hand-glove and soap was not ok...There are ways to make people feel comfortable and dignified in Government hospital even without treatment...

HaneefahRN:



Did they later attend to her or not? Let me guess borrowed around from other patients who bothered to get what they'll need for delivery.

Come back and say that if you have had to deal with many of such cases. Expecting you to deliver their babies with nothing. And no it is not just hand gloves and soap.

I think people should respect themselves too, are they to crack their brains about where to get what to use to deliver their babies too? The list is usually given on first contact but people will still turn up with nothing, expecting miracles. They are humans too and it's frustrating.
I'm really trying hard not to justify a bad thing but the patient here was wrong.

HaneefahRN:



Seriously?!

The way some Nigerians reason ehn. A woman will attend ante -natal for 9 good months (for those that are even regular) but come on delivery day without even a single pin! How frustrating can that be? Are they to deliver her with their bare hands, or cover the baby with leaves or even buy what she needs for her from their own salaries? Tips will be given during ante-natal o how to go about buying the requirements bit by bit till delivery date but many clients will still present without even a pin, maybe one wrapper.
Then they react and people call them rude and uncompassionate

TV01:

They get paid accordingly. Money answereth...


TV

^{...wifey came in once and laughed at his accent, I chased her commot for kitchen, as in eh?...I'm not even conscious of the accent, just the content. I'm actually thinking of retrning whence I came...to the religion thread.}

. Its an ilu-oke accent, a lot of peeps may not notice since what he is saying is grammatically correct and even if it is not most who will listen wont even care. Religion section strange things are happening there, I was still telling someone off naira land that one needs to be careful of what one reads there, too many things that can question your faith if your conviction is not strong enough

Mayflowa:


Buy why will the hospital management wait till the last minute to get these patients stuff together? Why will they ask them for glove and dettol? That is poor management. Why not charge them those fees as you did during card taking so you had provide those essentials stuff. The essentials should not be left in the hand of patients

Richy4:


All I am trying to say is that most of the Nigerian Nurses did not have that call to be in that profession. Florence Nightingale will be rolling in her grave if she sees the attitude of some Nigerian Nurses... It is just horrifying ..

demelza:
Apologies for butting in but please don't.
There is a mental picture I always have whenever I read your posts. It feels like someone pouring water on my head on a very hot afternoon. I don't even know if this makes sense.
If truly your way of thinking is as a result of Christianity, I would pick up my studies again.
This is no flattery Sir.
*goes back to lurking*

yetseyi:

^{. Its an ilu-oke accent, a lot of peeps may not notice since what he is saying is grammatically correct and even if it is not most who will listen wont even care. Religion section strange things are happening there, I was still telling someone off naira land that one needs to be careful of what one reads there, too many things that can question your faith if your conviction is not strong enough}

...I left as I felt we were always talking doctrine - maiinly tithe - and not the practical outworking. It seemed good to move and to tarry here as I acquired a family. I still read and post sometimes, but it appears to be all atheists vs theists. My faith is no longer shakeable like that. By Gods grace I have tasted.

cococandy:
Not to defend badly behaved nurses.
My mom was a chief nursing officer/midwife before she retired. (Would have been more if not that they were denied several promotions).
At that level of nursing in sane countries, she is supposed to be a rich woman by Nigerian standards. (>$150k in low-paying US states. Many states pay more at that rank. E.g Washington state)

Instead what you have in Nigeria are nurses who are struggling to make ends meet. Before retirement, they were owed almost one year salary with threats of being fired without benefits if they don't show up to work (you can't owe me one month salary here and expect me to work) u crazy or som'n?.

After retirement, no pension or even mention of gratuity.

Please these people are humans. I won't support anyone being rude or mean to patients but don't expect stellar customer service.

CFCman:


Basically, the lack (or inadequacy) of health insurance is the remote cause of the bitchy attitude of the nurses. If the hospital knows that they'll get paid for their services as at when due, the Drs and nurses would be more professional.

However, I don't get why the hospitals don't provide meals to admitted patients, including nursing mothers; or require the patient to provide his/her own gloves, disinfectant and medication.

CFCman:


Basically, the lack (or inadequacy) of health insurance is the remote cause of the bitchy attitude of the nurses. If the hospital knows that they'll get paid for their services as at when due, the Drs and nurses would be more professional.

However, I don't get why the hospitals don't provide meals to admitted patients, including nursing mothers; or require the patient to provide his/her own gloves, disinfectant and medication.

cococandy:

Still falls back to funding issues.
Will the staff feed the patients from their salaries when they are struggling to feed their own families?

Basic constant electricity is hard to get. They have to fuel the generators by themselves sometimes if they have surgeries to do.

I don't even want to start so I don't get upset now.

XX01:
Even in private hospitals, nurses can be so uncaring and lazy. If I could do without them, I would. I remember when I had my first son and he had jaundice the nurses really dealt with him. I would hear him crying and I would be too weak to do anything. I had a C section but I ensured I was on my feet within 12 hours so that they don't maim my son for me.

The night duty nurse was never to be found when needed. The stuff protecting his eyes were always falling off so I sat beside him throughout. Whenever she finally appeared, she will be talking down at me and so many other things. The day nurse was just slightly better. More interested in African Magic. If I knew what I know now, would have reported them to the MD. I did everything for him myself even though I was still recovering from the operation.

I have nothing good to write about them. My cousin is a nurse in a GH and she is just as bad as the rest of them saying that it is normal. I told her no foreign hospital will keep her if she didn't change her irritating attitude.

TheArchangel:
Whatever.
Next time employ a personal nurse or load them with cash and you will receive a VIP treatment. Are we not talking about the same Nigeria where money counts.? Nurses and other essential personnel owes us a duty of care which I concur with, but should in case the care is not forthcoming, then by all means buy it. Save up and buy their kindness till you are safely out of their door.
I do not care how you see it but Nigeria is a jungle, it is a zoo where you can either eat or be eaten. You strive to survive by all means necessary even in your hospital bed.

babythug:
Lemme give a random example that perhaps can help shed more light as to the nonsense spewed out typically by nurses.

Walked into health center to inquire another immunizations for my son. Asked the nurse I met by the door who started yelling that she can't give me preferential treatment and that its turn by turn. I said what I asked was just the procedure to use the facility and if one could just walk in and get xyz vaccines. Of course she kept
Shouting and still didn't answer other question.

Or is it the people who get beaten by nurses during labour/delivery for closing their laps due to the pain or reflex action I should cite as examples??

Please help
Justify the situations thorpido and haneefaRN

TheArchangel:
Whatever.
Next time employ a personal nurse or load them with cash and you will receive a VIP treatment. Are we not talking about the same Nigeria where money counts.? Nurses and other essential personnel owes us a duty of care which I concur with, but should in case the care is not forthcoming, then by all means buy it. Save up and buy their kindness till you are safely out of their door.
I do not care how you see it but Nigeria is a jungle, it is a zoo where you can either eat or be eaten. You strive to survive by all means necessary even in your hospital bed.

Richy4:


Please don't tell me you are a nurse too....Because the attitude you are portraying here would be a world class in any Nigerian Government hospital....Even if Nigeria is a Zoo, I have watched where animal takes care of their own kind. if you doubt me check youtube..you will be amazed how kind hearted some of those animals where....I have never heard anyone ever thought of buying kindness..... it is an inborn thing...it comes from within...You cannot force it...Every thing must not be money dear...

Unfortunately those nurses found themselves in that profession....they would have been better off in a construction Company....where they will have no basic or minimal contacts with human....

Richy4:


Please don't tell me you are a nurse too....Because the attitude you are portraying here would be a world class in any Nigerian Government hospital.....Are you trying to tell me that in their job description it was not stated what they were in for?....That you have to pay extra to smile, talk politely and show compassion to someone in pains?...Even if Nigeria is a Zoo, I have watched where animal takes care of their own kind. if you doubt me check youtube..you will be amazed how kind hearted some of those animals where....I have never heard anyone ever thought of buying kindness..... it is an inborn thing...it comes from within...You cannot force it...Every thing must not be money dear...

Unfortunately those nurses found themselves in that profession....they would have been better off in a construction Company....where they will have no basic or minimal contacts with human....

DarkRebel101:
Who are these nurse apologists so vehemently conjuring excuses for the unruly, unprofessional, and inhumane behaviour of these nurses?

If MTN puts off paying its staff for 3 months, would you still green-light and say it's normal if one calls their customer service only to be subjected to impoliteness and cheekiness, all because their staff haven't been paid? Are the customers at fault for the non-payment of salary? Isn't such a classic case of stress-rolling/displaced aggression?

This has always been the problem of this country. We never call a spade a spade and are comfortable with ignoring the elephant in the room because it's the easier thing to do. SMH.

Mayflowa:
@Gracious10
The easiest thing to show is care! You don't have to be a nurse to show it. It costs you nothing! But for nurses, it is expected of you to show abundance of care.

As per salary, nurses receive on of the best salary package in federal and state institutions . A federal ministry entry level starts with N58,000 be you an engineer, accountant or microbiologist. Entry level Nurses starts with more than 100k. So I don't know how nurses are treated unfairly.

If you say they learnt from their older colleagues, I will understand but that is no excuse because we should correct the bad norms of the past. More so, this is love-driven profession.

Richy4:


Please don't tell me you are a nurse too....Because the attitude you are portraying here would be a world class in any Nigerian Government hospital.....Are you trying to tell me that in their job description it was not stated what they were in for?....That you have to pay extra to smile, talk politely and show compassion to someone in pains?...Even if Nigeria is a Zoo, I have watched where animal takes care of their own kind. if you doubt me check youtube..you will be amazed how kind hearted some of those animals where....I have never heard anyone ever thought of buying kindness..... it is an inborn thing...it comes from within...You cannot force it...Every thing must not be money dear...

Unfortunately those nurses found themselves in that profession....they would have been better off in a construction Company....where they will have no basic or minimal contacts with human....

TheArchangel:
I am telling you how to survive if you ever find yourself in a Nigerian hospital. I have been there and I'd rather work in an office than be part of any Nigerian hospital. The thought of working in such environment irks me cos no matter how you strive not to be like others their bad influence will rub off on you somehow.
Take it or leave it or even crucify me but please when going to a hospital load up with cash.