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Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 9:56am On Nov 29, 2016 |
I didn't ask if it is natural. Many things are natural but not normal - sicknesses and diseases - failure (just do nothing and you will fail- except when failure is the goal. So easy to fail yet something in us doesn't want to) - fear, and we don't like how it feels at all. - pain is natural but we know it often tells us something needs correction. And some pain are emotional; they show up in strange ways and even require a trained professional to help them REMEMBER the event that triggered it. Statistics is scientific, not religion and it shows that only a very small percentage of the world populaion- less than 10% even in very liberal countries) are homosexual. More than that are hypertensive and they may never have known anything is wrong if we had given up on research and we said it's just another variant of expression. Only complications gets people to hospitals. Are we saying that because homosexuals don't feel distressed about it (is this even true?) then it is normal or are we saying it is reaĺly true that they don't cause other people distress? Almost all homosexuals I have met did not feel that way until something emotional happened to them- sexual abuse/violence (regardless of whether homo- or hetero) or OTHER FORMS of abuse (both adult and children victims), seduction by homosexuals (they start longing for more only after first exposure), after incest experience, absence of father or mother figure in there lives growing up and so on. It has not been proven homosexuality is genetic. In fact some researchers have said categorically that it is not genetic. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE CANNOT REMEMBER HAVING THESE EXPERIENCES IS NO PROOF THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN. IN FACT, MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS GO INTO 'DENIAL' STATE YET THE SYMPTOMS SHOW IN OTHER AREAS OF THERE LIVES, IN STRANGE WAYS WHICH I'M THINKING HOMOSEXUALITY MAY BE ONE. In view of the following, I'm not questioning whether or not it is natural but I do question if it is normal. Statistics says it is not. I believe the science community should stop persecuting those who think this way and desire to help those who want out of the lifestyle. Some professors in Canada have even testified to their parliament that their is no scientific reason why homosexuality should be granted normalcy status and paedophiles shouldn't be (IF FOCUSING ON THE SEXUAL NEED OF THE ADULTS INVOLVED.) It's just like saying they should remain in abstinence for the rest of their lives. Those are the kind of things we get to see when we decide that something like that is normal while criminalizing others like it. And don't get me wrong. There could be other causes, precipitating factors or triggers not related to the above but regardless of what these are, shouldn't homosexuality be regarded as normal? What do you think? |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 10:00am On Nov 29, 2016 |
BY HOMOSEXUAL I MEAN SAME SEX SEXUAL LIFESTYLE, NOT JUST MALE-TO-MALE |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 10:00am On Nov 29, 2016 |
Its not normal. 1 Like |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by donnffd(m): 10:07am On Nov 29, 2016 |
If someone says his or her best food is soaking garri, would you ask whether its normal or would you say something terrible happened to him or her when they were younger?... What is your business about other peoples sexuality? Does it affect you in anyway? 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by jonbellion(m): 10:08am On Nov 29, 2016 |
donnffd:I just tire 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 10:15am On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor:Not normal because not many people are homosexual?? That means being left handed is not normal too... And your statistics is not reliable because gay people are still reluctant to come out even on developed countries... A person born into a religious family will definitely not want the tag of being an homosexual. .. And u mentioned some Canadian professors... D weight of scientific evidence shows that people are born gay, and it's not only a sexual concept, it's also emotional. That's why many of them enter relationships and experience the same emotions we have towards our partners of the opposite sex. The dissension of some Canadian professors doesn't refute the overwhelming scientific evidence. ... I understand that 'God' said u should kill all homosexuals and u have to justify that directive but it doesn't change the fact... 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 10:34am On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Again, likening homosexuality to "left handedness" The fallacies never end. Besides, you dont even seem to know the number of replies you are mumbling up together. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 11:16am On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor: That's your reply, u can't counter my point logically... Tell me d exact fallacy I committed, u are terrible at debates seriously 1 Like |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 11:22am On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Fallacy of illogical comparison. Otherwise called fallacy of comparing apples and oranges. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 11:30am On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor:It's not comparison, it's analogy. U claim that because homosexuals are not common, they are not normal... And I made a reference to left handed people to show that rarity is not abnormality ... That I can't logically rebut an argument doesn't make it a fallacy 2 Likes |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 11:33am On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Lol, see oyinbo, u say no see white man? What is an analogy? Besides, Where did i say homosexuals are not common? And where did i use that they are rare as a premise? Please show me. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by Omudia11: 11:34am On Nov 29, 2016 |
No it is not normal and neither is it natural. I've read write ups from ex-gays who said that even while they were gay, they had a deep conviction that it wasn't right but couldn't just resist the urge. Many of them admitted to even being attracted to objects over time. Yes, that's true! That it is gradually being accept by society doesn't and will never make it right. How long before people start wanting rights to marry "things" or animals? Oh..its already happening. A woman is married to the Eiffel Tower in France and its not even hers. Soon people will be getting sued for not letting others marry their pets. Homosexuality is mental illness and nothing more. 1 Like |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 11:39am On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor:Ur first comment was in agreement with the Op's perspective and his major point was about their few numbers... By implication u supported that viewpoint... And if u don't, then expressly tell us why you believe it is not normal... At least that was your comment. Lest I forget: Analogy A relationship of resemblance or equivalence between two situations, people, or objects, especially when used as a basis for explanation or extrapolation. 1 Like |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 11:42am On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Please how was it? Which part of my answer to the Op's question showed my premise? I can see u r poor on grammar. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 11:48am On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor:Mehn... Op says homosexuality is not normal, u said it's not normal, how is that not agreement?? |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 11:52am On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: Op asked, "is it normal?" Please read the thread again. You know i told u, u r not patient to read? Hence your fallacies. And besides, when i said it is not normal? Does that unite my reasons and premise with that of the op? I am just amazed! |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by foladara777(m): 12:12pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
felixomor:All of Op's point sought to prove that it is not normal, not one to suggest it is normal... Stop pretending u are not aware of that fact... And if your reasons and premises are different then list them |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by MrPRevailer(m): 2:24pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
1 Corinthians 6:9 "Know you not that the unrightoeous will not enter the kingdom of God.... neither homosexuals shall inherit the kingdom of God." It is abomination. It is sick. But the Satanic elites are fighting to make it accepted as normal, So that mankind can submit totally to him. It is not. IT IS Gross WICKEDNESS a.k.a ABOMINATION to God and human nature. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by felixomor: 2:27pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
foladara777: "Just list them" After all your fallacies. Look at your mouth. Mschewww ![]() |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by EyeHateGod: 4:42pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Typical House - Condescending yet thought-provoking ! Principal Condition - Autism Cameron - So it's wrong to feel sorry for this little boy? House - See,skinny socially-privileged white people get to draw this neat little circle. Everyone inside the circle is normal.Everyone outside the circle should be beaten,broken and reset, so they can be brought into the circle. Failing that they should be institutionalized, or worse, pitied. Why would you feel sorry for someone who gets to opt out of the inane courteous formalities, which are utterly meaningless, insincere, and therefore degrading? This kid does not have to pretend to be interested in your back pain,or your excretions, or your grandma's itchy place.Can you imagine how liberating it would be to live a life free of all mind- numbing social niceties? I don't pity this kid. I envy him. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by sonoforogun(m): 6:32pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
It's not normal in any form that is true. Usual like matter there has to be equal amount of positive and negative electric charge for humanity to have the right balance. It distorts every notion of morality and common sense. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 6:45pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Source (contains far more information ):http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 6:59pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
Foladara777 |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by taurus25(m): 7:15pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
In the past normalcy(is it a word?) was defined mainly on the basis of the societal norms or general practice. For example, it was seen as "not normal" for women to propose or woo a man in many parts of the world. Most people find nothing inherently wrong in such practise these days. There has always and would probably always be far more heterosexual people than homosexuals, this gave an idea of homo sexuals being "not normal" in virtually every part of the world in the past. Today most countries know better and are abolishing anti LGBT laws. Sexuality is medically indeterminable, we are just the way we are. There is nothing ethically wrong with having homosexuals in society, neither can anyone's sexual practise affect our individual lives. If you have ethical issues with homosexuality open a thread lets iron it out. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by peacesamuel94(m): 8:08pm On Nov 29, 2016 |
It is obviously not normal, the only thing i can equate homosexuality to, is madness. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by KingEbukaNaija: 3:29am On Nov 30, 2016 |
It is abnormal |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 1:38pm On Nov 30, 2016 |
Neuroscientists are finding that the brain is extraordinarily plastic. The scientific consensus now is that even as an adult, we are what we are making our brains even though we may not be aware of the constant ongoing process. These changes in microstructure are visible in brain scans, within months.http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by PDBonline: 1:52pm On Nov 30, 2016 |
[quoteGeneticists, anthropologists, developmental psychologists, sociologists, endocrinologists, neuroscientists, medical researchers into gender, and twin study researchers are in broad agreement about the role of genetics in homosexuality. Genes don’t make you do it. There is no genetic determinism, and genetic influence at most is minor. Individualistic reactions to random factors are very important.[/quote] http://mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm The purple highlights actually seems to be the summary of the whole collection of thousands of 20-year studies. Things happen and an individual's response to such event happened to homosexual orientation. Environmental influences like I stated above are the most powerful influences discovered. But it is ultimately depends on how that individual responds based on how the event was interpreted in his/her mind. |
Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by hopefulLandlord: 1:57pm On Nov 30, 2016 |
Nigeria has one of the highest rates of "Gay porn" search in the world we beat america that has the highest internet users and even other developed countries that have legalized gay sex source? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gay-porn-pakistan_n_3437529.html you'll see that majority of the top gay search countries are where same sex is prohibited and violently opposed Credit: Lennycool 1 Like
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Re: Is Homosexuality Normal? by jonbellion(m): 3:01pm On Nov 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:holy Bleep
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