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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


LOL!

It's not me wey dey carry Opta untop head upadan like you. I've asked you to provide the 8 sitters Ibra has missed so far which you failed to. The responsibility lies on you!

So all the youtube videos of missed chances I listed, plus naming two others, you didn't view them? You listen to only yourself.

I have provided at least 7. Don't expect me to have all off hand.

Abeg shift
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:10am On Dec 04, 2016
Funlordjnr:




Why? Jose was sabotaged by chelseas players last season! If your wife or Smally decide to sabotage una love, who fit save you?
Hmmm.. There's some sense in this. I just hope these United players are not trying to sabotage Jose too embarassed

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 11:11am On Dec 04, 2016
Lana1:
It is at this juncture that we can now all conclude that u ve run mad.
so you havent been cured of your inherited madness, try adeboye, he might cure you.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 11:14am On Dec 04, 2016
Moyes dey lose you dey yab am, he dey win, some mad men here no wan gi'am credit. Bad belles, ugwu draw loading again. Arsenal demolished west ham that united begged to a draw. Your lord mou has failed. As per that idiot, i am here for you. O ti lana(you are in flames)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 11:17am On Dec 04, 2016
United praying for teams 10 points from them to falter, like they would win all their own matches. Mourinho must go. My haters must run mad/die.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 11:18am On Dec 04, 2016
eph12:

Hmmm.. There's some sense in this. I just hope these United players are not trying to sabotage Jose too embarassed
Like United players sabotaged Moyes and Louis Van Gaal. Make una find another excuse.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:19am On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


So all the youtube videos of missed chances I listed, plus naming two others, you didn't view them? You listen to only yourself.

I have provided at least 7. Don't expect me to have all off hand.

Abeg shift

You aint serious! Your claim of clear-cut that had to with Rooney's high cross to the side of the post where Ibra had to do a lot with his head while leaping so high before that can land in the net or the error from the Watford defender who promptly close down Ibra are all bullshite!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iPopAlomo(m): 11:28am On Dec 04, 2016
SIRcumalot:
all these guys around us no dey drop points at all.
how westbrom take sneak reach sixth for table?
top 4 na my aim,all dreams of a league trophy died few weeks back.
we need spurs to collapse and same for another team in the current top 4,we can forget arsenal so we're only looking at three teams.


Tottenham isn't going down... you're contending with five teams for top 4... that's league leaders in Chelshit, Arsenal, Liverfool and Manchester Shitty... there's no way manure will make top 4... your mates Southampton, West Brom and Everton... uber useless club...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 11:30am On Dec 04, 2016
iPopAlomo:



Tottenham isn't going down... you're contending with five teams for top 4... that's league leaders in Chelshit, Arsenal, Liverfool and Manchester Shitty... there's no way manure will make top 4... your mates Southampton, West Brom and Everton... uber useless club...
United not winning the league with their saviour mourinho will be calamitous. Such spendings and their "world best" gaffer, should win them the title with his mouth. Maybe they want him to spend 500 million more.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iPopAlomo(m): 11:32am On Dec 04, 2016
Danhumprey:
Oh ye of little faith! calm down! there's still alot to play. rather than looking up at the table and feeling intimidated by the distance between us and the top, we should rather work on taking our chances and gathering all the points we can gather.


Who knew that Chelsea will become dominant and intimidating after they started the season in good form, but fall by the way side, losing shamefully to Liverpool and Arsenal at Stamford Bridge of all places? And almost everyone wrote off Chelsea as title contenders including some of their fans and some predict that Chelsea will struggle this season, unless they invest in their squad in the winter transfer window. and Conte almost look frustrated and clueless until he stumbled on a formation/tactics that plays to the strength of the available players, turning them into tireless warrior and credit to him, Chelsea now look almost unbeatable, brushing teams aside.

earlier in the season, some people, including yours sincerely, already wrote off the league as Man. City's to lose and already crowning Guardiola's team as Champions. now,look at their recent form, nothing to write home about. I'm not saying Man City don't a chance at winning the league. they do, if they put their house in order.

next, Liverpool were the team tipped to win the title and they probably still stand a chance, despite losing arguably their best player so far and will lose a few more in January for nation cup commitment.

and now, Chelsea is the in-form team and already everyone is writing off Man. United. SMH.

I'm not saying we will win the league. but can we? yes! but first, we should focus on ourselves,work on our play, chance conversion, gather all the points we can gather, and this intimidating distance between us and the top won't be an issue.


I see what you did there... but there's no way in Hell manure would lift the premiership this season... none... Zero... over Arsenal...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 11:39am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


If Rooney can be on his A game like he did in the week, I would have preferred him to Mata but we really don't know what sort of play Rooney would bring, he may look shite once again.. I think he's ineligible to play, right?
Rooney is suspended. maybe MMM might just have the chance to play together.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


You aint serious! Your claim of clear-cut that had to with Rooney's high cross to the side of the post where Ibra had to do a lot with his head while leaping so high before that can land in the net or the error from the Watford defender who promptly close down Ibra are all bullshite!


I can't even remember providing a video of Rooney. I provided Ibra's horrible miss, two clear cut chances provided by Pogba, one from Valencia, one from a deflected shot. Then two one vs one situations, although I only provided one video, etc. I didn't provide that from Rooney, which was a big chance too. Only you imagine that I posted that video

What kind of human being are you self. Go back and watch those video. I am tired of you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 11:58am On Dec 04, 2016
iPopAlomo:



I see what you did there... but there's no way in Hell manure would lift the premiership this season... none... Zero... over Arsenal...
K.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iPopAlomo(m): 12:02pm On Dec 04, 2016
weedtaker:
ur own mumu 2much, dem de talk clear cut chance, you de talk sitters, if you think you are the best in analyzing clear cut chances you should go and meet skysports BBC and co. and table ur matter for dem, FYI you go make better money.


What's the difference between clear-cut chances and sitters... Ogbeni... English is deceiving you...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14pm On Dec 04, 2016
Wasteful United

28/11/16 12

Not for the first time this season, Manchester United peppered their opponent's goal at Old Trafford on Sunday but were unable to come up with a winning strike.

Jose Mourinho's side fired off 17 shots against West Ham but after Zlatan Ibrahimovic cancelled out Diafra Sakho's early opener they were unable to hit the net again.

The 1-1 draw - which leaves United 11 points behind Premier League leaders Chelsea - had similarities with their home ties with Burnley and Stoke City over the past two months. The Manchester club had 62 shots in those games combined but managed just one goal.

It's a recurring problem and raises questions about the quality of United's finishing. A closer look at the stats shows there's an issue.

Manchester United have created 164 chances in the Premier League this season, scoring 18 goals. On average, they score one goal for every 9.1 chances they create.

That's the third-worst conversion rate in the Premier League, ahead of only West Ham (9.7) and Southampton (11.7).

In contrast, Chelsea have created exactly the same number of chances as United but have scored 11 more goals, hitting the net 29 times from their 164 openings. That equates to one goal for every 5.7 chances created. Arsenal are even more efficient, scoring a goal for every five chances.


- Skysports

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:19pm On Dec 04, 2016

Kagawa10

Look at the chart above. We joint first with Chelsea in respect of number of chances created this season. What makes us poor is our conversion rate. Chelsea convert from every 5.7 chances while we wait almost twice number of chances (9.1)to score a goal .

Who to blame for the poor chances conversion to goals, DeGea or Eric Bailly?


You no know ball


Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:25pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10, Read more:

Opta also log clear-cut chances created and scored by teams. These are moments when a player would be reasonably expected to score, such as in one-on-one situations.

United are third in the table when it comes to creating clear-cut openings. They've fashioned 20 such chances - including two against West Ham - putting them behind only Liverpool (23) and Manchester City (25), two sides praised for their attacking football.

However, United have missed more of those clear-cut chances (18) than any other team in the Premier League. Their clear-cut chance conversion rate is the joint-worst in the division - on average they score just 30.77 per cent of those big openings, the same rate as Watford.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic has missed nine clear-cut chances this season, three more than any other player in the Premier League. Paul Pogba (three), Marcus Rashford (two), Wayne Rooney (two), Juan Mata (one) and Jesse Lingard (one) have also been culpable


Of course, there is the argument United are simply coming up against inspired goalkeeping. Stoke City's Lee Grant and Burnley's Tom Heaton received plaudits for their performances at Old Trafford, while Darren Randolph pulled off several fine stops for West Ham.

But Mourinho's men must find a way to be more clinical in front of goal if they are to stay in touch with the Premier League's leading sides.


Skysports

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:26pm On Dec 04, 2016
Funlordjnr:




Conte should win 3 premier League titles, a couple of f.a cups and a couple of league cups before you or anyone on earth tries to claim that conte is DOING BETTER THAN JOSE ever did with the blues!



Or na for December dem dey sabi champ?
I'm just suprised.. Mourinho that came to Chelsea and won back to back with records that still stand in the EPL.
some people sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:28pm On Dec 04, 2016

Manchester United clear cut chances conversion rate is 30.77

Ibrahimovic clear cut chances conversion rate is 11%

It means Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Rooney are even more efficient than Ibrahimovic in converting clear cut chances.



Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:35pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


I can't even remember providing a video of Rooney. I provided Ibra's horrible miss, two clear cut chances provided by Pogba, one from Valencia, one from a deflected shot. Then two one vs one situations, although I only provided one video, etc. I didn't provide that from Rooney, which was a big chance too. Only you imagine that I posted that video

What kind of human being are you self. Go back and watch those video. I am tired of you.

Your statement of 2 missed chances in succession in the ibra vs city clip has it. One open shot was blocked by Stones and I agreed he should have hit it harder, the other was that Rooney cross which was hard. Abi you don dey suffer from Amnesia?

You provided nothing on the embolden part!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by rollyjay85(m): 12:36pm On Dec 04, 2016
What tym is man utd match 2day plz
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:39pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Your statement of 2 missed chances in succession in the ibra vs city clip has it. One open shot was blocked by Stones and I agreed he should have hit it harder, the other was that Rooney cross which was hard. Abi you don dey suffer from Amnesia?

You provided nothing on the embolden part!

Just admit that your are only good enough for mamaput analysis. Just admit defeat.


Wait.. Hope you won't blame opta and CCC for this stats. See Sanchez, see Defoe sef dey gap Ibrahimovic. Defoe plays for weak Sunderland. Beteke for weak Palace. See Harry Kane with few matches. Kagawa10 give up.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:42pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:
Wasteful United

28/11/16 12

Not for the first time this season, Manchester United peppered their opponent's goal at Old Trafford on Sunday but were unable to come up with a winning strike.

Jose Mourinho's side fired off 17 shots against West Ham but after Zlatan Ibrahimovic cancelled out Diafra Sakho's early opener they were unable to hit the net again.

The 1-1 draw - which leaves United 11 points behind Premier League leaders Chelsea - had similarities with their home ties with Burnley and Stoke City over the past two months. The Manchester club had 62 shots in those games combined but managed just one goal.

It's a recurring problem and raises questions about the quality of United's finishing. A closer look at the stats shows there's an issue.

Manchester United have created 164 chances in the Premier League this season, scoring 18 goals. On average, they score one goal for every 9.1 chances they create.

That's the third-worst conversion rate in the Premier League, ahead of only West Ham (9.7) and Southampton (11.7).

In contrast, Chelsea have created exactly the same number of chances as United but have scored 11 more goals, hitting the net 29 times from their 164 openings. That equates to one goal for every 5.7 chances created. Arsenal are even more efficient, scoring a goal for every five chances.


- Skysports

Which clear-cut chance did Ibra miss against Westham? He only had 1 and it was well blocked!

And stop disturbing me with your nonsense Opta stats.the fact is the quality of our chances haven't been so good! There's no way a sane person would call all those Ibra's mid air volleys and difficult aerial duel easy chances!

He was able to score good amount of goals during the week when he was provided with better clean chances, not those horrible chances!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:47pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:

Manchester United clear cut chances conversion rate is 30.77

Ibrahimovic clear cut chances conversion rate is 11%

It means [b]Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Rooney
are even more efficient than Ibrahimovic in converting clear cut chances. [/b]



Lmao!

Most of the chances the listed players converted were fashioned out by Ibra, the real master at creating clear cut chances!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:54pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Which clear-cut chance did Ibra miss against Westham? He only had 1 and it was well blocked!

So you agreed he had one? Rashford missed one. Opta recorded two for United. So what's your argument?

Kagawa10:

And stop disturbing me with your nonsense Opta stats.the fact is the quality of our chances haven't been so good! There's no way a sane person would call all those Ibra's mid air volleys and difficult aerial duel easy chances!

Lame excuse. The same measuring criteria used for Ibrahimovic, is used for Defoe, Beteke, Zaha, Ahmed Musa, Smalling, Ivanovic, Giroud, Ozil, Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Aguero and all the outfied players in the EPL.

Kagawa10:


He was able to score good amount of goals during the week when he was provided with better clean chances, not those horrible chances!

So you mean Sunderland and Palace can create better clean chances than United? How are Defoe and Beteke leading Ibrahimovic in the score chart?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:58pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


Just admit that your are only good enough for mamaput analysis. Just admit defeat.


Wait.. Hope you won't blame opta and CCC for this stats. See Sanchez, see Defoe sef dey gap Ibrahimovic. Defoe plays for weak Sunderland. Beteke for weak Palace. See Harry Kane with few matches. Kagawa10 give up.

Na you sabi.

Why don't you check the quality of the chances provided to Sanchez in the Westham game? So was Aguero vs Chelsea.

The likes of Aguero and Kane has even missed far easier chances than Ibra and no one is holding them to ransom but it's only our team that's complaining of the few chances Ibra has missed when he's done a lot more and has scored more difficult chances to compensate for the missed chance.

Need I remember you that the likes of Kane and Aguero offers nothing more in their play apart from scoring? Granted that we could say Aguero can also provide some individual brilliance but his linkup play and vision are quite inferior to that of Ibra.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 12:59pm On Dec 04, 2016
nyabinghi:
Like United players sabotaged Moyes and Louis Van Gaal. Make una find another excuse.

Calm down & get the cynicism in that post you quoted!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:02pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Lmao!

Most of the chances the listed players converted were fashioned out by Ibra, the real master at creating clear cut chances!

Stop telling lies, Ibrahimovic has zero goals Assists. I guess he created a chance for someone to score in your deluded dream.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:07pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Na you sabi.

Why don't you check the quality of the chances provided to Sanchez in the Westham game? So was Aguero vs Chelsea.

The likes of Aguero and Kane has even missed far easier chances than Ibra and no one is holding them to ransom but it's only our team that's complaining of the few chances Ibra has missed when he's done a lot more and has scored more difficult chances to compensate for the missed chance.

Need I remember you that the likes of Kane and Aguero offers nothing more in their play apart from scoring? Granted that we could say Aguero can also provide some individual brilliance but his linkup play and vision are quite inferior to that of Ibra.

I ask you, do Sunderland and Palace create more quality chances than United? The horrible goal Ibrahimovic missed against I think Burnley, wont a grandmother score it. What other quality chances does he need?

Forget all these your excuses, Ibrahimovic is slower than the EPL. He is old.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:11pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


So you agreed he had one? Rashford missed one. Opta recorded two for United. So what's your argument?



Lame excuse. The same measuring criteria used for Ibrahimovic, is used for Defoe, Beteke, Zaha, Ahmed Musa, Smalling, Ivanovic, Giroud, Ozil, Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Aguero and all the outfied players in the EPL.



So you mean Sunderland and Palace can create better clean chances than United? How are Defoe and Beteke leading Ibrahimovic into the score chart?

Which was well blocked! The question is, is our striker only entitled to having just 1 clear-cut chance per game?

As for Palace, let me remind you they have Zaha who's a fantastic crosser! On the other hand, Defoe is the master at ghosting in to capitalise on every rebounds or knock downs and the reason Sunderland plays with 2 strikers!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:25pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


Stop telling lies, Ibrahimovic has zero goals Assists. I guess he created a chance for someone to score in your deluded dream.

You don dey mad abi?

The goal Rashford scored against Watford was created by who? The goals Rooney scored against Feyernoord was created by who? All the shots Mata had against Burnley was created by who? The sitter Lingard missed against Stoke was created by who? The chance Rashford had against Westham was created by who? You don finally mad!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:28pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


I ask you, do Sunderland and Palace create more quality chances than United? The horrible goal Ibrahimovic missed against I think Burnley, wont a grandmother score it. What other quality chances does he need?

Forget all these your excuses, Ibrahimovic is slower than the EPL. He is old.

And you think Aguero hasn't missed more?

Abegi!

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