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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:32pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Which was well blocked! The question is, is our striker only entitled to having just 1 clear-cut chance per game?

No team has been able to equal 2 clear cut chances per game. In fact we are third on the table of clear cut chances created. We are ahead of Chelsea.

Kagawa10:

As for Palace, let me remind you they have Zaha who's a fantastic crosser! On the other hand, Defoe is the master at ghosting in to capitalise on every rebounds or knock downs and the reason Sunderland plays with 2 strikers!

Excuse, excuse excuse. Pogba, Rooney and Mata are better crossers of the ball than Zaha. Ibrahimovic just cannot connect well.

Your praise of Defoe is another slight on Ibrahimovic. Ibrahimovic's agility is gone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:36pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


You don dey mad abi?

The goal Rashford scored against Watford was created by who? The goals Rooney scored against Feyernoord was created by who? All the shots Mata had against Burnley was created by who? The sitter Lingard missed against Stoke was created by who? The chance Rashford had against Westham was created by who? You don finally mad!

The reason why it is hard to argue with you is because you are too dull in football knowledge. These stats are EPL stats. Stop talking about Europa cup and Capital 1 cup. Do Defoe, Aguero play in the Europa? Olodo

Ibrahimovic has no Assist in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:38pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


And you think Aguero hasn't missed more?

Abegi!

Even Messi and Ronaldo miss. Let me help you.

Abeg, go to mamaput. You're hungry.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:56pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


The reason why it is hard to argue with you is because you are too dull in football knowledge. These stats are EPL stats. Stop talking about Europa cup and Capital 1 cup. Do Defoe, Aguero play in the Europa? Olodo

Ibrahimovic has no Assist in the EPL.

Only the Feyernoord match was included but only a fool would disagree about the clear-cut chances Ibra has fashioned out.. For example, the Rashford tap in goal vs Watford after Ibra's cross caused commotion in the box. Also, Rashford chance that was well picked out by Ibra in the Westham match, the Lingard's missed sitter vs stoke was fashioned out by Ibra. His well picked out pass to Mata for the shot he blew in the Burnley game etc.

Ibra doesn't even need to record an assist. Many times he started plenty of our moves in the final third with his consistent through ball. For example against Burnley, his through ball sent clear Rashford who made a cut back for Mata for a shot in the box. Another of his through ball was made to Pogba who cut back a return pass for Ibra for a well thumping shot that was well blocked in the same Burnley game. Another was the stoke city match where one of his through ball made it to Lingard who only had to prod a simple pass for Pogba who made a mess of the well crafted chance!

Better goan sleep, your eyes are failing you!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:02pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


Even Messi and Ronaldo miss. Let me help you.

Abeg, go to mamaput. You're hungry.

The reality is that we're only complaining of those few missed chances because we've been really shite! Other team's fans are not complaining even though their strikers have missed just as much because they realise they can score goals as long as they continue to create more chances for their forward even if the said forward happens to miss 1 of these chances, he would always get more unlike our team that expects its striker to score from just 1 clear-cut chance per game!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:06pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


No team has been able to equal 2 clear cut chances per game. In fact we are third on the table of clear cut chances created. We are ahead of Chelsea.



Excuse, excuse excuse. Pogba, Rooney and Mata are better crossers of the ball than Zaha. Ibrahimovic just cannot connect well.

Your praise of Defoe is another slight on Ibrahimovic. Ibrahimovic's agility is gone.

You said what? You probably need to watch Yesterday's Spurs vs Swansea match or City vs Chelsea in the 1st half, even KDB miss in the 2nd half was a sitter.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 2:08pm On Dec 04, 2016
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:08pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Only the Feyernoord match was included but only a fool would disagree about the clear-cut chances Ibra has fashioned out.. For example, the Rashford tap in goal vs Watford after Ibra's cross caused commotion in the box. Also, Rashford chance that was well picked out by Ibra in the Westham match, the Lingard's missed sitter vs stoke. His well picked out pass to Mata for the shot he blew in the Burnley game etc.

Ibra doesn't even need to record an assist. Many times he started plenty of our moves in the final third with his consistent through ball. For example against Burnley, his through ball sent clear Rashford who made a cut back for Mata for a shot in the box. Another of his through ball was made to Pogba who cut back a return pass for Ibra for a well thumping shot that was well blocked in the same Burnley game. Another was the stoke city match where one of his through ball made it to Lingard who only had to prod a simple pass for Pogba who made a mess of the well crafted chance!

Better goan sleep, your eyes are failing you!

Football analysis is not about running your mouth like a market woman quarrelling. All the things you typed there don't make up to one EPL Assist.

Against Watford, Rashford scored from a dropped ball from a defender. Ibrahimovic's cross didnt meet Rashford directly. In opta stats, that wouldn't pass for an Assist.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:14pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


You said what? You probably need to watch Yesterday's Spurs vs Swansea match or City vs Chelsea in the 1st half, even KDB miss in the 2nd half was a sitter.

You don't know what it means to equal two CCC per game. You obviously don't know the meaning of average.

Average: constituting the result obtained by adding together several amounts and then dividing this total by the number of amounts.

You can create 5 CCC in one match, and the next two matches you create nothing. Then you are not averaging 2 CCC per match.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:14pm On Dec 04, 2016
[b]“That is one of the parts of my job; I am here to build a future. I am here to build a future with a certain DNA and style - that is one of the items, but there are others. Some other items are also related to football results, football objectives and targets. So I wouldn't be happy with just that.

“I demand a lot from myself, from the people who work with me and from the players. Equally, I like the club to demand a lot from me, so I cannot say that I would be happy with just that one item.

“This is England and I think every club knows that it will be difficult to finish in the top four because there are six or seven clubs with the same objectives.

“It is easy to forget though that I went to Real Madrid they were 25 years without a Spanish Cup, 12 years without a Champions League quarter-final and also lots of years without a championship. This was hard for me. Similarly, Inter [Milan] had 50 years without the Champions League, which was hard, so this is nothing new for me - I find it very enjoyable.”


- Jose Mourinho [/b]

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:19pm On Dec 04, 2016
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:23pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


Football analysis is not about running your mouth like a market woman quarrelling. All the things you typed there don't make up to one EPL Assist.

Against Watford, Rashford scored from a dropped ball from a defender. Ibrahimovic's cross didnt meet Rashford directly. In opta stats, that wouldn't pass for an Assist.

I never said he scored from Ibra's cross! I stated that Ibra's cross caused commotion in watford's defence. The defenders were trying to head the ball out but couldn't and Rashford pounced on it.. Ibra made it happen in the first place.

Ibra has been pivotal to our play and deserved plenty of assists to his name but unfortunately his team mates has been more miserable in front of goal than he was.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:26pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


You don't know what it means to equal two CCC per game. You obviously don't know the meaning of average.

Average: constituting the result obtained by adding together several amounts and then dividing this total by the number of amounts.

You can create 5 CCC in one match, and the next two matches you create nothing. Then you are not averaging 2 CCC per match.

Apart from Pogba's pinpoint crosses, most of our clear-cut chances were fashioned out by Ibra.. As simple as abc!

You don't expect Ibra to finish the same chance he crafted out, do you?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:29pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


I never said he scored from Ibra's cross! I stated that Ibra's cross caused commotion in watford's defence. The defenders were trying to head the ball out but couldn't and Rashford pounced on it.. Ibra made it happen in the first place.
.

That is not counted in opta Assists. All the strikers in EPL also cause commotions from which their team mates score.

Kagawa10:

Ibra has been pivotal to our play and deserved plenty of assists to his name but unfortunately his team mates has been more miserable in front of goal than he was.

It's more of the other way round. If Ibrahimovic were clinical, the likes of Pogba, Rooney would have more Assists to their names.

This is my post last on this topic
.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:34pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:


Apart from Pogba's pinpoint crosses, most of our clear-cut chances were fashioned out by Ibra.. As simple as abc!

You don't expect Ibra to finish the same chance he crafted out, do you?

How could that be when he alone missed half of the clear cut chances United has created? Please this is no mamaput you just make up lies from the blues?

Bye
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:37pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


That is not counted in opta Assists. All the strikers in EPL also cause commotions from which their team mates score.



It's more of the other way round. If Ibrahimovic were clinical, the likes of Pogba, Rooney would have more Assists to their names.

This is my post last on this topic
.

You don dey mad! Which chances were fashioned by Rooney to Ibra?

As for Pogba, most of his crosses to Ibra hasn't been that easy just as the one Ibra scored against West ham. The only easy one I can think of was the Burnley game and maybe the Liverpool match where Ibra had to run hard for the header.

That said, whether it was counted as an assist or not, it was still all Ibra's effort, just like he's done in plenty of the games he's played!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:38pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


How could that be when he alone missed half of the clear cut chances United has created? Please this is no mamaput you just make up lies from the blues?

Bye

Ibra has created the most of our clear-cut chances though!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:42pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10 and elampiro please stop na!!!! angry angry

Hand no dey pain una?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 2:55pm On Dec 04, 2016
elrony:
Kagawa10 and elampiro please stop na!!!! angry angry

Hand no dey pain una?



Na ban go fit dem!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 3:01pm On Dec 04, 2016
elampiro:


Football analysis is not about running your mouth like a market woman quarrelling. All the things you typed there don't make up to one EPL Assist.

Against Watford, Rashford scored from a dropped ball from a defender. Ibrahimovic's cross didnt meet Rashford directly. In opta stats, that wouldn't pass for an Assist.

grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 3:02pm On Dec 04, 2016
all dis market women seff grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by stylochime: 3:06pm On Dec 04, 2016
Pple are arguing Ibra's impact on our game nd if we ar beta off without him. Am nt here to pick a syd. Jst wanna make a suggestion- let d party dat is carrying opta stats on his head lyk lyk am carry d exam am rytin 2moro bring stats on d vhances creatd by zlatan with respect to oda strikers in d league nd eith respect to oda manutd players. Nd let us compare chances created and conversion rate wit zlatan playing and chances created nd conversion rate whn he is nt playing

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:09pm On Dec 04, 2016
Have said it before, from the matches i have seen from beginning to end so far, Ibra is very good in creating chances for the team.. The problem is we are poor in converting chances.
I even suggested Ibra shouldn't be use as lone striker up front.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 3:30pm On Dec 04, 2016
Funlordjnr:


Line ups! At least Miki dey!


http://www.livescore.com/soccer/england/premier-league/everton-vs-manchester-united/1-2252314/


That is not a confirmed line-up for the match. It is usually released one hour before kickoff.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nyabinghi(m): 3:40pm On Dec 04, 2016
Oasis007:
[b]“That is one of the parts of my job; I am here to build a future. I am here to build a future with a certain DNA and style - that is one of the items, but there are others. Some other items are also related to football results, football objectives and targets. So I wouldn't be happy with just that.

“I demand a lot from myself, from the people who work with me and from the players. Equally, I like the club to demand a lot from me, so I cannot say that I would be happy with just that one item.

“This is England and I think every club knows that it will be difficult to finish in the top four because there are six or seven clubs with the same objectives.

“It is easy to forget though that I went to Real Madrid they were 25 years without a Spanish Cup, 12 years without a Champions League quarter-final and also lots of years without a championship. This was hard for me. Similarly, Inter [Milan] had 50 years without the Champions League, which was hard, so this is nothing new for me - I find it very enjoyable.”


- Jose Mourinho [/b]
wetin make ancelotti and zizou talk, mr mourinho. You went to madrid and couldnt play a ucl final not to talk of win. At chelsea, de matteo did what you couldnt do for chelsea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:41pm On Dec 04, 2016
Odunharry:
Have said it before, from the matches i have seen from beginning to end so far, Ibra is very good in creating chances for the team.. The problem is we are poor in converting chances.
I even suggested Ibra shouldn't be use as lone striker up front.

I agree with this 100%. Ibra drops deep in most matches, collects a pass and tries to create a goal scoring chance. He has been instrumental both in scoring goals and creating chances.


BTW how will the defense deal with Lukaku today? Don't think Jones et Rojo can counter his height and strength
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:52pm On Dec 04, 2016
nyabinghi:
wetin make ancelotti and zizou talk, mr mourinho. You went to madrid and couldnt play a ucl final not to talk of win. At chelsea, de matteo did what you couldnt do for chelsea.
I hope you understand that interview wey you quote?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:55pm On Dec 04, 2016
iPopAlomo:

Your season is already a complete disaster... 14 points deficit of the top of the table... and you want to consider yourself a title contender after spending 40.54 billion Naira on Pogba...
kokaneprodigy:
The same goalie y'all claimed is the new Superman, and went on to blame luck for the draw at Old Trafford conceded 5 goals yesterday at home.

How much clearer do u want the terms?
please keep my mentions out of your dumb trolling.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 3:59pm On Dec 04, 2016
Everton vs Man united [number 3 in coupon] is a fixed draw! you guys should stop hoping for the result to go United's way.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:01pm On Dec 04, 2016
Eric Bailly on the bench!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 4:03pm On Dec 04, 2016
Lineup

United: De Gea, Valencia, Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Carrick, Herrera, Mkhitaryan, Pogba, Martial, Ibrahimovic. 

Subs::
Romero, Bailly, Blind, Fellaini, Mata, Lingard, Rashford.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:04pm On Dec 04, 2016
Bailly is back.
So Darmian is now ahead of Blind? The same Darmian wey we don write off finish. This life sef!!

Tight line up. I no expect less than 3 goals.

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