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Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by DeepSight(m): 4:14pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: https://www.nairaland.com/490515/holy-spirit-personal-sentient-being |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by DeepSight(m): 4:16pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I agree. However the last point may need to be understood with a birds eye view of things. |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:32pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
DeepSight: But the Holy Spirit took different forms like the form of a dove , the rushing wind and tongues of fire - this shows the Holy Spirit is a distinct person with a special ability of taking different forms and playing specific roles as part of the godhead . Isaiah 42:1 "Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My chosen one in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations." Christ came to play his own role and he has a kind of human form . He still plays his role in Heaven which is intercession . Imagine a circle , try to divide the circle into three equal sectors . Pick One sector, give it a blue colour call it God the Father , another sector give it a red colour , call it God The Son (Christ) and the third sector give it yellow colour call it God The Holy Spirit in It . Now call the circle 'Godhead' . The different colours represent how distinct each sector is but it does not preclude it from being part of the whole . |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:57pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
@ DeepSight Aha ! Mark 3:28-29 28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. Why did Christ say that whoever blasphemes against the Holy Ghost will never be forgiven ? Doesn't this show that the Holy Spirit is a different person ? But blasphemy against God the Father and Son can be forgiven - this shows these three are different but are One . |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:04pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: cc : 4kings |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by 4kings: 5:11pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:'Anthropomorphism in the sense of attributing physical characteristics' - - No |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:13pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
4kings: Why ? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by Rilwayne001: 5:50pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Wow! Nice thread Make i park my bus here 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:39pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 7:23pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: mumu muslim......dem don give you salad chop. Word salad. Saladified. |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 7:29pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Another nonsense thread from Kingebukasblog. Judaism, christianity and islam all have an anthropomorphic God. -A god that creates man in his own image. -A god that believes in war -A god that is jealous of other gods -A god that can curse generations of people -A god that is tribal (for Jews) or (for Arabs) Kingebukasblog, dant teach me nansense!! |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:48pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
JackBizzle:
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Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:48pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
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Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 7:49pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
^^^ My people, have you guys noticed that when Kingebukasblog is debunked or proven wrong, he either ignores the comment or starts trolling? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:51pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
JackBizzle: You just took a cursory glance at the OP and mentioned me . Look at the title of the thread , what you actually quoted and see if your response makes any sense 1 Like |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 7:53pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I picked an important junction in your argument and punctured it. You lied that Judaism and islam reject an anthropomorphic God |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by Ranchhoddas: 8:01pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Ayam not understanding you this boy. Does the triune nature of God render Him any less anthropormorphic? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:02pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
JackBizzle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Judaism |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:28pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: In the Old Testament we could see God doing so many things - talking , expressing emotions , issuing commands - but in the New Testament we saw Christ doing the talking and making "reforms" , elucidation of moral teachings of Christ via inspiration by the Holy Spirit , then there is the Book of Revelations where we see God saying things etc , it was a revelation anyway . So people who view the bible as an allegory tend to see the Old Testament as an allegorical view of the New Testament events . Like Noah and the flood , Jonah and the fish etc representing Jesus' mission and experience . Remember , the Jews believe in God The Father as the Only God which is described as dwelling in unapproachable light - they reject the Triune nature of God but this nature of God actually draws man closer to God more than ever . Christ was physically present on earth and related with man and we have the Holy Spirit who took different forms in the bible and also play specific roles in the lives of men even today . That means in the New Testament , even today , it goes beyond anthropomorphism . So the Triune nature of God does not make God any less anthropomorphic . I wanted people's response which could help me draw a logical conclusion on the Triune nature of God and anthropomorphism . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:36pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: cc : MrPresident1 |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by Ranchhoddas: 8:45pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Alright. I don't think anything changed in the NT as I can remember a part of the Bible that tells us that Jesus is SEATED at the RIGHT HAND of the Father, ergo, no difference for Xenophanes. |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by 4kings: 8:47pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:I can't really give a straight answer. Accepting Jesus as God brings up logical issues, that's why u have JW doctrines. |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by MrPresident1: 8:53pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Who are the Jews? I am waiting for your answer Christ is the perfect and complete anthropomorphic (and physical) representation of God, God in flesh, the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us. The Almighty God Who dwells in unapproachable light, took on the nature of man: fully God, fully man, to pay for the sins of His woman Israel, and also reconcile the world ( or gentiles) to the law. You have not read that 'I and my Father are one'? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 9:00pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: What nonsense? A wikipedia link is your argument? I should read the whole article and then guess which part relates to what you are thinking in your mind? See what happens when a person corrects kingebuka? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:22pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
4kings: What about the second post explaining the Triune Nature of God ? What exactly about Christ being God brings up logical issues |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:25pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Smh Na wa for you bro
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Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:36pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Dictionary meaning : Jew - A member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins to the ancient Hebrew people of Israel. Christ is the perfect and complete anthropomorphic (and physical) representation of God, God in flesh, the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us. The Almighty God Who dwells in unapproachable light, took on the nature of man: fully God, fully man, to pay for the sins of His woman Israel, and also reconcile the world ( or gentiles) to the law. No Sir . The One who dwells in unapproachable light is God The Father - this distinguishes Him from The Son . The Father commands The Son , and The Father and The Son command The Holy Spirit but They are One existing as three persons , equal in power and authority . You have not read that 'I and my Father are one'?They are One in the sense that The Father and The Son are part of the godhead .
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Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by MrPresident1: 10:15pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The original Jews of the Bible have nothing to do with Judaism. Judaism is the religion of khazar converts. There is no Judaism in the Bible. The laws given to Moses was meant to be their way of life, not a religion. The Law was the national constitution of the Israelites to guide everything they ever did in their public and private lives. Again, who are the original ancestral Iineage Jews of the Bible? No Sir . The One who dwells in unapproachable light is God The Father - this distinguishes Him from The Son . The Father commands The Son , and The Father and The Son command The Holy Spirit but They are One existing as three persons , equal in power and authority . They are distinct yet the same. I and the Father are One, not two. Jesus Christ is God, fully man, fully God. No man can see God, He is eternally invisible, but when you see Christ you have seen God. They are One in the sense that The Father and The Son are part of the godhead . There is no part in the Godhead, the Godhead is One, and in Christ dwells the complete fullness of the Godhead bodily. God Almighty, eternal and invisible is Love. Love is the code that Jesus lived by. Love is the Word and Spirit of God. You all will have to wait until the apocalyse before you can understand, Christ the Firstfruits. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:58pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
MrPresident1: If they are the same and distinct , how can you distinguish The Father From The Son ? |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by 4kings: 2:35am On Dec 07, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Three persons having a mind of their own(as depicted from the Bible) can't be ONE. They can have equal divinity but are different. Maybe this state of divinity is considered as God. |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by JackBizzle: 4:18am On Dec 07, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: See your life? Your dishonesty and ignorance will always betray you. 1) The wikipedia quote you put even admits that the bible uses anthropomorphic terms to describe God (but it should be taken as metaphors). 2) If you google "judaism anthropomorphism", you will get millions of results stating that the religion uses anthropomorphism. Here is one article that clearly points out the contradiction in claiming that the Jewish God is not material but still using anthropomorphic terms for God. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01141.html 3) Say "no" to wikipedia |
Re: Xenophanes' Criticism Of Anthropomorphism Vs The Triune Nature of God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:39am On Dec 07, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Always pay attention closely before you spew garbage next time KingEbukasBlog: |
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