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Re: Is MMM A Sin? by MaziOmenuko: 8:47am On Dec 07, 2016
Seun:
Yes, I believe it's a sin.

Is this a sarcasm or what? Sin against who?
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by DeLioncourt: 8:51am On Dec 07, 2016
back2sender:
This MMM scheme has exposed Nigerians as a greedy set of people.
Why is MMM not in america, britain, germany, australia, China, japan etc great nations in the world but mostly in black dominated countries because we are very gullible and full of greed.
The owners of this scheme has been indicted as fraudsters yet Nigerians are singing MMM praises to high heavens.
MMM is closely linked with gambling with style.

Are those countries in recession?
Tell me one aspect of your life that is not a gamble.
Those countries you mentioned have bled other nations dry and are living off the proceeds and you're shouting against people trying to help themselves?
Y'all are just ignorant.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by MaziOmenuko: 8:52am On Dec 07, 2016
themosthigh:
[b]Mmm is a very big sin in Christianity because it is demonic and promoted by gongon, an infernal demon residing in the 6th princinth of hell.
This demon is a spoiler with 7 heads each in the shape of demonic animals. It was this very same demon that helped the principality called prince of Persia to hold the prayers of Daniel from reaching God for days. During the conquest of heaven when the integrity of the throne of jehovah was challenged, it was this demon that helped lucifer pin down jehovah on the ground and stole some of the ethereal essence from him making lucifer resistant to any attach from jehovah and restricting jehovahs power to the heavens and physical earth.
Lucifer is preparing for the final battle and is gathering resources and anybody that assist mmm succeed is just contributing to the battle against the almighty. Though I know that the age of jehovah is over and lucifer will defeat him and lock Christ in the bottomless pit, I still advise you people to stand with jehovah and stop mmm. In Jesus name I beg[/b]

Please, how can I locate gongon and the 6th princinth of hell? I've searched google map and its not helpful. I need to contact this gogngon dude, the way you describe him suggests you have met him either physically or spiritually.

BTW, your write-up portrays you as a witness with your silly armageddon believe; don't you guys have something else to preach apart from armagedon?
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Lexusgs430: 8:58am On Dec 07, 2016
entrepreneurmic:
U SIMPLY DON'T UNDERSTAND CIRCULAR FLOW OF INCOME. ANYWAY ASK YOUR GREEDY & USELESS RULERS THAT QUESTION SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN SCAMMING MILLIONS OF PETER & PAUL TO PAY THEMSELVES. D MASSES ARE WISE NOW. MMM IS POSITIVELY TOUCHING LIVES. I DON GET ALERT GOD WIN.

Circular flow of income? Tell me how the MMM generates its profit and capital?
Regarding our leaders, unfortunately the cancer seems to have no cure(yet).
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by peachesandroses(f): 8:58am On Dec 07, 2016
themosthigh:
[b]Mmm is a very big sin in Christianity because it is demonic and promoted by gongon, an infernal demon residing in the 6th princinth of hell.
This demon is a spoiler with 7 heads each in the shape of demonic animals. It was this very same demon that helped the principality called prince of Persia to hold the prayers of Daniel from reaching God for days. During the conquest of heaven when the integrity of the throne of jehovah was challenged, it was this demon that helped lucifer pin down jehovah on the ground and stole some of the ethereal essence from him making lucifer resistant to any attach from jehovah and restricting jehovahs power to the heavens and physical earth.
Lucifer is preparing for the final battle and is gathering resources and anybody that assist mmm succeed is just contributing to the battle against the almighty. Though I know that the age of jehovah is over and lucifer will defeat him and lock Christ in the bottomless pit, I still advise you people to stand with jehovah and stop mmm. In Jesus name I beg[/b]


ah ah!! you mean to tell me that a demon Pinned down Jehovah and the Lucifer stole some of his ethereal essense? and because of that Jehovah's power is restricted to the heavens and physical earth jeez, which Jehovah are you talking about is it The God in heaven I know, that is all powerful? who demons tremble at his presence who has every single thing and planets and constellation under his control?? is it my God you are talking about or another one?? pls answer me.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by topdee(m): 9:09am On Dec 07, 2016
Lexusgs430:


Circular flow of income? Tell me how the MMM generates its profit and capital?
Regarding our leaders, unfortunately the cancer seems to have no cure(yet).
topdee:

Your analysis doesn't work that way. MMM uses somewhat the same model financial institutions use, there's no way everyone will demand their money at the same time, in fact only a small fraction of participants collect money at different intervals. But instead of allowing financial institutions dictate how your money should be routed or spent, the ideology is to eradicate the involvement of intermediaries like financial institutions. The same ideology birthed Cryptocurrencies. How do financial institutions make money? Don't be deceived by what they tell you. Financial institutions operate using pure pyramid schemes. How are they able to pay outrageous salaries and manage operations expenses? You think say they do businesses that yield interest with your Money? They are just enriching themselves with your money. Lol.
MMM is a movement: Imagine a situation where everyone in Nigeria is doing MMM or perhaps most people in the world are doing MMM, meaning most traders, merchants, in fact most businesses will be doing MMM, so let's say perhaps participants patronise these businesses, do you know the same money these business owners are paid will be put back in MMM?, cos they are members also remember!, the money keeps on recycling between participants. This is what bank and other financial institutions enjoy, whenever you purchase anything from anyone, the money leaves your account and enters the seller's account, who is also operating using these banks, so in reality your money doesn't leave the bank, it just enters another bank account in these same banks. What happens when financial institutions like banks, pensions managers, insurance, etc, stop having members? Or stop receiving deposits? You be JJC. The only thing that can weaken MMM is the panic by these media haters, but guess what? MMM is becoming stronger daily---BTW, I just got Alert grin smiley wink wink cheesy
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by GoodMuyis(m): 9:11am On Dec 07, 2016
RatedStar:
It is not. Someone should please create a new topic and enlighten all our intelligent ignoramus how MMM works.I notice that all those that have something wrong to say simply dont know anything about the scheme.

Thats a Point, they dont know how it works, they think its a full ponzi, meanwhile its not necessary to bring anybody

I will try to create post to enlighten people's conscience
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Lexusgs430: 9:15am On Dec 07, 2016
topdee:


So when Peter and stops paying, what legal recourse does Paul have?
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Nobody: 9:17am On Dec 07, 2016
THE LORD ALMIGHTY REBUKE U! FALSE TALK!
themosthigh:
[b]Mmm is a very big sin in Christianity because it is demonic and promoted by gongon, an infernal demon residing in the 6th princinth of hell.
This demon is a spoiler with 7 heads each in the shape of demonic animals. It was this very same demon that helped the principality called prince of Persia to hold the prayers of Daniel from reaching God for days. During the conquest of heaven when the integrity of the throne of jehovah was challenged, it was this demon that helped lucifer pin down jehovah on the ground and stole some of the ethereal essence from him making lucifer resistant to any attach from jehovah and restricting jehovahs power to the heavens and physical earth.
Lucifer is preparing for the final battle and is gathering resources and anybody that assist mmm succeed is just contributing to the battle against the almighty. Though I know that the age of jehovah is over and lucifer will defeat him and lock Christ in the bottomless pit, I still advise you people to stand with jehovah and stop mmm. In Jesus name I beg[/b]
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Lexusgs430: 9:18am On Dec 07, 2016
GoodMuyis:


Thats a Point, they dont know how it works, they think its a full ponzi, meanwhile its not necessary to bring anybody

I will try to create post to enlighten people's conscience

Hopefully by the time you create the enlightenment thread, MMM would still be live.
I just feel for the hearts of all the Peter's & Paul, when this scheme eventually collapses.
MMM don born another sister called ultimate cycle. Let's see the plenty hearts & accounts that would be shocked, not too long to go now...........
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Gbengageorge: 9:20am On Dec 07, 2016
Moonland100:
YOU ARE WARNED; THE TRAGEDY AHEAD

When there is economic recession, she reveals either those that trust in God or those that trust in their economic and possessions. During the time of prophet Elijah, there was a recession like this, as a result of famine in the land. Elijah put his trust in Jehovah, Our provider. He hears from God concerning how to escape recession because he lives in another Kingdom( The kingdom of God). The hallmark to know a child of God is that, he/she hears from God. The Bible says that " The Spirit bear witness with our spirit that we are children of God" Romans 8:16. This message you are reading is to warn you of a disastrous occurrence that will happen upon the generation of man, when they lost their trust in God for provision. I want to bring to your awareness the dilemma of MMM and the like. Listen very well, MMM is not a divine visitation from above. It is not a manna from heaven. It is not God-sent during this recession time. God has a way of blessing his Children. MMM is not a miracle from God. Now, what is MMM? MMM an acronym and a student of the Word can denote it full meaning as
M- Mammon
M- Messenger of devil
M- Mockery. ( for the sake of this discussion)

Mammon
The Bible says that you can't serve two masters. You can't serve God and serve mammon. mammon means the gods of money(Satan). You can't be committed to the work of God and still be committed to the work of devil which was cast down to the earth as a result of rebellion. Every Child of God that does MMM is rebellious and it shows that such a person does not know the God is serving and he/she has limited God in the affairs of his/her life. This is a tragedy because there is a bad reward for those that rebel against God. An attempt to against the Scripture, is an attempt to get life ruptured. God is the greatest multiplier, be patience.

M- messenger of devil
The Bible says that in the endtime, people shall be lovers of pleasures than the lover of God. This is one of the fulfilment of the prophecy. A lover of God will seek the mind of God. A lover of pleasure will seek pleasure. Some people had never won a soul for the last five years...even let assume that in a year and he has introduce 20 people to MMM in a month. You no longer preach the gospel but MMM. This is one of the strategy of the devil at this endtime. Turn the heart of the children from the Father. Be wise, don't be carry away by the scheme of the devil. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all other things shall be given unto you.

M-mockery
Those that introduce you to MMM today, will mock you tomorrow. Abraham ( the father of Faith) in Gen 14:21(LB) when the king of sodom told him, " just give me back my people who were captured, keep for yourself the booty stolen from my city". MMM and others deception agencies emanates from sodom. Imagine the king of sodom offering honorarium to the father of faith( Abraham). Normally, Abram does not major his life on assets but on access to the throne. We live by faith and not by sight. Because of Abraham's faith in Gen 14:22-23 but Abram replied, I have solemnly promised Jehovah, the supreme God, creator of heaven and earth, that I will not take so much as a single thread from you, lest you say, Abram is rich because of what I gave him!. Abram, a man that has walked with the Almighty God, knows that if man blesses you and in the future, you are prosperous that man will mock you. lest you say, Abram is rich because of what I gave him!. Many won't be able to boast of their riches, wealth and glory in the future because it is not from God but from man. Avoid mockery now.
David, a king and a wealthy man in the scripture, is a man that is known for one thing in Psalm 27:4- The one thing I want from God, the thing I seek most of all, is the privilege of meditation in his temple, living in his presence every day of my life, delighting in his incomparable perfections and glory.(LB). Despite that David desire one thing, he has all thing( money, fame, wealth, riches and glory etc) seek his presence not pleasure. Beware of the strategy of the devil. Shalom. .....



This is the best evidence against MMM so far, yet in my own judgement , it is still too shallow to stop me from participating in MMM. You need to do more research in the bible.

If you have read the preview of his film PiraMMMIDa (adapted from the book "LUCIFER'S SON"wink, the main character in that film is mammon. That alone, is enough to make people dissociate from MMM. A link to the devil.

On the other hand, I have made a lot of money from the scheme and have referred so many people, and it has provided succour to those that had no hope.The jobless are receiving alert and saying "thank you God". This is why I am still PHing, seeing alert every 5 minutes.

It is now left for Nigerians to decide. I guess a lot of people will choose the money side.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Nobody: 9:20am On Dec 07, 2016
back2sender:
This MMM scheme has exposed Nigerians as a greedy set of people.
Why is MMM not in america, britain, germany, australia, China, japan etc great nations in the world but mostly in black dominated countries because we are very gullible and full of greed.
The owners of this scheme has been indicted as fraudsters yet Nigerians are singing MMM praises to high heavens.
MMM is closely linked with gambling with style.
CHECK UR FACTS
MMM IS IN THE UK
MMM IS IN THE USA
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by GoodMuyis(m): 9:23am On Dec 07, 2016
Lexusgs430:

Hopefully by the time you create the enlightenment thread, MMM would still be live.
I just feel for the hearts of all the Peter's & Paul, when this scheme eventually collapses.
MMM don born another sister called

MMM has never collapse without Govt intervention in it, the three times it crash, the Govt of that country actually crash it by Sanction it Ban. The scheme is such in a circle that that it will not stop except people stop participating, but as long as people earn cash from it it will continue.

The secret of the scheme is that to keep gaining, either stop or keep participating
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by back2sender: 9:29am On Dec 07, 2016
Chosen1984:
CHECK UR FACTS
MMM IS IN THE UK
MMM IS IN THE USA
Ok thanks will look it up
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 07, 2016
Let God alone judge me. I will continue with MMM. Even the world will crash one day. All these people aganist MMM abeg who una don help? You cant help even ur neighbour but you are standing aganist help. Abeg gerarahere.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Cortana2: 9:37am On Dec 07, 2016
RatedStar:


You are obviously one of the people wishing, hoping it crashes. Please, show me just 1, not 2, just 1 participant that has something wrong to say about mmm. I started 3 months ago. Have made over 150k. I PH now with 100k every month. Now tell me, even if it crashes, yes I wont be happy to loose my money, buh I can confidently say I have gained more than I have lost.

Life is a risk. No one is forced to participate and there is a warning boldly written, use only your spare cash.

Now answer me this, how am I being selfish?

Answer these questions first.

1. Why did Russia ban MMM?
2. That 30% you people get on your 'investment', where does it come from really?
3. What other investment do you know in the world that pays a whooping 30% just after 3 months?
4. Do you know what a ponzi scheme is?
5. When this thing finally fall through, do you know you the investors will be partly responsible for whatever happens to those who promoted this illegality.

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Re: Is MMM A Sin? by awesome11(m): 9:39am On Dec 07, 2016
pcguru1:


I want to ask a question.

1. Where does the 30% come from ?
2. For each 30% generated it requires the funds of *new* members to pay up for it. So what happens when new members stop rolling in ?

This is not an attack am only curious

Not only new members. Existing participants continually invest into the scheme. By the way, you were advised to use your spare money.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by uracefriend(m): 9:39am On Dec 07, 2016
Balderdash
themosthigh:
[b]Mmm is a very big sin in Christianity because it is demonic and promoted by gongon, an infernal demon residing in the 6th princinth of hell.
This demon is a spoiler with 7 heads each in the shape of demonic animals. It was this very same demon that helped the principality called prince of Persia to hold the prayers of Daniel from reaching God for days. During the conquest of heaven when the integrity of the throne of jehovah was challenged, it was this demon that helped lucifer pin down jehovah on the ground and stole some of the ethereal essence from him making lucifer resistant to any attach from jehovah and restricting jehovahs power to the heavens and physical earth.
Lucifer is preparing for the final battle and is gathering resources and anybody that assist mmm succeed is just contributing to the battle against the almighty. Though I know that the age of jehovah is over and lucifer will defeat him and lock Christ in the bottomless pit, I still advise you people to stand with jehovah and stop mmm. In Jesus name I beg[/b]
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by hohafrank(m): 9:44am On Dec 07, 2016
I think it is not a sin, since investment in stock is not.You buy share and when it appreciates, you sale them to make gain or profit.In the same token, you buy Marvros or you invest in MMM, it appreciate and you sale to make gain or profit
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Gbengageorge: 9:47am On Dec 07, 2016
back2sender:
This MMM scheme has exposed Nigerians as a greedy set of people.
Why is MMM not in america, britain, germany, australia, China, japan etc great nations in the world but mostly in black dominated countries because we are very gullible and full of greed.
The owners of this scheme has been indicted as fraudsters yet Nigerians are singing MMM praises to high heavens.
MMM is closely linked with gambling with style.

Chai , why display your ignorance here. Check this out https://mmmglobal.org/mmm_abroad/
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by koolaid87: 9:59am On Dec 07, 2016
Seun:

Every member of MMM is cheating the people he/she invites, and also encouraging them to cheat others in turn. This makes it immoral to me.

Preposterous! You're however, entitle to your opinion.

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Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Gbengageorge: 9:59am On Dec 07, 2016
RatedStar:


Bad Belle is always allowed. I am currently roofing my home in Anambra. I am not touching a dime frm my money anymore. Be hating while I smile to the bank every 30 days.

Bro eh, I dey feel you. Let haters go hungry while you smile to the bank, when alert even wan kill person.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Lexusgs430: 10:07am On Dec 07, 2016
GoodMuyis:


MMM has never collapse without Govt intervention in it, the three times it crash, the Govt of that country actually crash it by Sanction it Ban. The scheme is such in a circle that that it will not stop except people stop participating, but as long as people earn cash from it it will continue.

The secret of the scheme is that to keep gaining, either stop or keep participating


The keyword is 'STOP PARTICIPATING'. Once that happens, the scheme reaches its death and collapses....
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by koolaid87: 10:08am On Dec 07, 2016
RatedStar:
It is not. Someone should please create a new topic and enlighten all our intelligent ignoramus how MMM works. I notice that all those that have something wrong to say simply dont know anything about the scheme.

So when I loan someone money to start a business and ask him to pay me back in 3 months, the interest I collect is a sin cos I earned it by doing nothing?

Nobody is been cheated. All participants smile after 30 days. Tuesdays and thursdays have become the best days of all participants. Why is all the focus on mmm?

Life is a risk. Use only your spare cash. Warning boldly written. Don't know when earning a little extra income is now considered a sin.

Some peeps that are not participating are anxiously waiting to tell mmm participants, I told you it will crash and now it has buh sadly, that day will never come.

Cos some fools want everyone to be broke..Any pastors that preach against MMM is a furking hater!

My only regret is not starting MMM earlier.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by topdee(m): 10:12am On Dec 07, 2016
Lexusgs430:


So when Peter and stops paying, what legal recourse does Paul have?

When financial institutions liquidate what legal recourse do people have? ask those who banked with Savanna Bank then and those who bought shares endorse by SEC. The financial system is such that people are mandated to always pay money in the banks, do pensions, do insurance, etc, despite the fact that these institutions are professional and legally robbing us, thanks to the government. MMM is kicking against all these by allowing people interact and trade with themselves without involving intermediaries.

The truth is without all these media propaganda, there will be no panic, hence the cash flow continues, most participants understand the ideology to an extent, that's why there is cash flow, non-participants are just ignorant, the ideology quite broad and encompasses much more than what you guys hear, it is a Movement to destroy monopoly, sectionalism and financial prejudice.

However, to answer your questions, there's is something called PAUSE MODE, it is a contingency strategy to ensure sustainability (if you want to know what it is entails, I might just create a thread on MMM someday to explain, it is quite broad), in fact there are several strategies involved to ensure it's sustainability, but then again, nothing Man-made can last forever, infact nothing last forever, even the human race may suffer extinction, due to global warming and other factors, but guess what? there are contingency plans to debase global warming and other threats, though survival from extinction isn't guaranteed
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Bluffly: 10:25am On Dec 07, 2016
terrezo2002:
MMM does not invest your money unlike banks. Banks invests in things like agriculture, lending others with interest, real estate etc.
MMM is a scheme where you reap where you don't labour. The last people to invest are those who will bear all the losses.

MMM has been running for years in other places and the only thing that can stop it is panic being generated by people like you. If only people stop to help would it seize; More so there are no such last people to invest has many has PH and gotten Help as well. Infact, in every business there is what they call abnormal loss. Every business is a risk. Even in forex, you do not know when you will loose, people dealing in shares do not know when they will loose, just like the way the capital market crashed and people lost millions and billions of Naira.

Life itself is a risk.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by Lexusgs430: 10:26am On Dec 07, 2016
topdee:


When financial institutions liquidate what legal recourse do people have? ask those who banked with Savanna Bank then and those who bought shares endorse by SEC. The financial system is such that people are mandated to always pay money in the banks, do pensions, do insurance, etc, despite the fact that these institutions are professional and legally robbing us, thanks to the government. MMM is kicking against all these by allowing people interact and trade with themselves without involving intermediaries.

The truth is without all these media propaganda, there will be no panic, hence the cash flow continues, most participants understand the ideology to an extent, that's why there is cash flow, non-participants are just ignorant, the ideology quite broad and encompasses much more than what you guys hear, it is a Movement to destroy monopoly, sectionalism and financial prejudice.

However, to answer your questions, there's is something called PAUSE MODE, it is a contingency strategy to ensure sustainability (if you want to know what it is entails, I might just create a thread on MMM someday to explain, it is quite broad), in fact there are several strategies involved to ensure it's sustainability, but then again, nothing Man-made can last forever, infact nothing last forever, even the human race may suffer extinction, due to global warming and other factors, but guess what? there are contingency plans to debase global warming and other threats, though survival from extinction isn't guaranteed

You know that was caused by the APEX bank lack of controls and implementing policies and procedures.
NB: I fully appreciate your explanation. But I hope investors in MMM, only invest money they can afford to spare just incase. If investors in MMM don't overgear, and the scheme crashes, they just dust off and move on .................
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by terrezo2002(m): 10:26am On Dec 07, 2016
dragonking3:
Is your country's economy not already crumbling? Is it mmm that caused it? Some nairalanders can talk stupidly sha.
It was not MMM that is the cause of recession in Nigeria now. I just said MMM can crumble a nation's economy because it doesn't increase nation's wealth rather it causes pains, regrets, greed, loss, bankruptcy, etc at the end of it all

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Re: Is MMM A Sin? by terrezo2002(m): 10:45am On Dec 07, 2016
Bluffly:


MMM has been running for years in other places and the only thing that can stop it is panic being generated by people like you. If only people stop to help would it seize; More so there are no such last people to invest has many has PH and gotten Help as well. Infact, in every business there is what they call abnormal loss. Every business is a risk. Even in forex, you do not know when you will loose, people dealing in shares do not know when they will loose, just like the way the capital market crashed and people lost millions and billions of Naira.

Life itself is a risk.
Every participants of MMM knows the scheme will crash. People are advising you so you won't be hurt in the end. Although people don't listen until they fall victim.
Keep taking risk. It is your life, your money.
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by OuchLimco: 10:58am On Dec 07, 2016
themosthigh:
[b]Mmm is a very big sin in Christianity because it is demonic and promoted by gongon, an infernal demon residing in the 6th princinth of hell.
This demon is a spoiler with 7 heads each in the shape of demonic animals. It was this very same demon that helped the principality called prince of Persia to hold the prayers of Daniel from reaching God for days. During the conquest of heaven when the integrity of the throne of jehovah was challenged, it was this demon that helped lucifer pin down jehovah on the ground and stole some of the ethereal essence from him making lucifer resistant to any attach from jehovah and restricting jehovahs power to the heavens and physical earth.
Lucifer is preparing for the final battle and is gathering resources and anybody that assist mmm succeed is just contributing to the battle against the almighty. Though I know that the age of jehovah is over and lucifer will defeat him and lock Christ in the bottomless pit, I still advise you people to stand with jehovah and stop mmm. In Jesus name I beg[/b]

What are you talking about
Which Jehovah is defeated??is it d King of Kings, d Ancient of days,d one dat never lost a battle and pls which Christ are u referring to?
Re: Is MMM A Sin? by igwegeorgiano(m): 10:59am On Dec 07, 2016
Seun:
Yes, I believe it's a sin.
how is it a sin. can you offer some biblical references please?

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