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I am sorry but is there something I am not understanding? I am sincerely looking for an answer. My understanding is that as long as someone follows the Qur'an and sunnah and the righteous predecessors then you are from the salaf. Salafi is not proclamation by words but by actions. I have never watched a video where Mufti Menk preached something against the Qur'an or sunnah. So I don't really understand why we should be concerned about him.

Sorry to mention you AbuHammaad but I would really like some explanation if you have time.

"some say I'm a barelvi, some say I'm a wahhabi, some say I'm a SALAFI" "all these names(including salafi) for me i know what i am, i am a Muslim"
now here comes the question, sufi call themselves muslims, shia call themselves Muslims, tabligees the same, ahmadiyyah and so on, how do you differentiate between your methodology and the others? this same "I'm a muslim" statement, shaykh Al-Albaani says, someone of knowledge won't make such a statement, but if he is not a person of knowledge then he can say such.
he has people following him, if they get to hear this from him, what do you think will happen?
A true Ahlul sunnah NEVER HIDES HIS/HER IDENTITY.

AbuHammaad:
Mufti Menk is not salafee and I don't think he has ever proclaimed to be one. We should be worried about that

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I protest. Point a single teaching of Mufti that is against Sunnah then I will believe. He must not categorically call himself salafi

AbuHammaad:
This is what Shaykh Wasiullah Abass said about him

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thewayofsalafiyyah./2015/05/19/mufti-ismail-menk-is-salafi-or-deobandi-by-shaykh-wasiullah-abbas/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

AbuHammaad:
From what I've gathered so far, he seems to be one of those "we are all Muslims, let's be united" kind of scholars and doesn't want to take a stand. Look! Mu'tazilis, Ash'aris, Naqshabandi, Deobandi, Jamaatu Tabligh all claim to be Muslims. How do you then differentiate between yourself and these people? Some of these people do what even the salafiyyah do in action (Beards, izbal and all that) but their aqeedah are all susceptible. What am I trying to say

Once your aqeedah is not of the salaf, then you are not salafee. What we should be asking ourselves is what exactly is Mufti Menk's aqeedah?

That said, the scholars have always advised us to be wary of so-called preachers who aren't recommended by top scholars. Going by his popularity, if he is of the salaf, the scholars would definitely have recommended him

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Jazakallahu Khayran for the link.

I have learnt a few things and I have done some research. The least I can say is that I am unsure of his aqeedah and as the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) said: “Leave that which makes you doubt for that which does not make you doubt, for truth leads to reassurance and lies lead to uncertainty.” Classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allah have mercy on him).

My understanding is that as long as someone follows the Qur'an and sunnah and the righteous predecessors then you are from the salaf

AbuHammaad:
Just to add to this



Having the right aqeedah is one of the ingredients you need to have before you can claim to follow the Quran and Sunnah.

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As far as I am concern he is innocent of Authentic Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) until proven otherwise. Whether he is recommended or not / or what people say about him. Calling yourself salafi does not mean you're salafi and not calling yourself salafi doesn't mean you're not. Action speaks louder than words.

lexiconkabir:


calling yourself a salafi or not, is not the issue here, but denying them is.

AbuHammaad:
From what I've gathered so far, he seems to be one of those "we are all Muslims, let's be united" kind of preachers and doesn't want to take a stand. Look! Mu'tazilis, Ash'aris, Naqshabandi, Deobandi, Jamaatu Tabligh all claim to be Muslims. How do you then differentiate between yourself and these people? Some of these people do what even the salafiyyah do in action (Beards, izbal and all that) but their aqeedah are all susceptible. What am I trying to say

Once your aqeedah is not of the salaf, then you are not salafee. What we should be asking ourselves is what exactly is Mufti Menk's aqeedah?

That said, the scholars have always advised us to be wary of so-called preachers who aren't recommended by top scholars. Going by his popularity, if he is of the salaf, the scholars would definitely have recommended him

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AbuHammaad:
This is what Shaykh Wasiullah Abbas said about him

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thewayofsalafiyyah./2015/05/19/mufti-ismail-menk-is-salafi-or-deobandi-by-shaykh-wasiullah-abbas/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

AbuHammaad:
I think this track will help us a lot in understanding what Salafiyyah is and I'm sure y'all will enjoy it.
I've had it in my folder for a very long time now. It was rendered by Abu Naasir Ibrahim Abdur-Rauf

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1up8Nm72FyX

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MYQF2VqKlC

Speaking of Abu Naasir, I'm still looking for his recent recordings ooo . Just incase If anyone has it, please
let me know. I don't mind paying sef

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Empiree:
Where is your EVIDENCE from KITAB & SUNNAH encouraging this type of division?

Demmzy15:
Aboo Nasir is from where?

AbuHammaad:


Why don't you go back and ask the Salaf why they distinguished themselves from all these people in their books.
Before this becomes another back and forth, let me just put it you that I'm not interested in any argument and
I probably won't reply you so don't stress. I don't like irrelevant arguments especially when I know the person
is not willing to learn.

AbuHammaad:

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Empiree probably didnt understood what you meant by "Why don't you go back and ask the Salaf why they distinguished themselves from all these people in their books."

because his reply is quite hilarious.

AbuHammaad:


Oh you saw that too? He was telling me about 80s. What's all that? I think he was just looking for someone to engage .
Fortunately, I'm the wrong person. I'm a very busy person and I don't like wasting my time on people who aren'tready to learn.
He better look for someone else

lexiconkabir:
you still don't get it.