randomperson:

This epistle doesn't refute the fact that there are facts that suggest evolution... Unlike creationism

facts suggesting evolution??

oh my....

22 PAGES YET NOTHING FROM THE LOVERS OF EVOLUTION HERE. ALL I HEAR ARE ASSUMPTIONS USING BONOBOS AND GENETIC SIMILARITY. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE FACE BY SAYING SOMETHING WORTHY OF A REBUTTAL TO THE OP?

This is an extract from the OP and i have seen it all play out here,

[b]Hasty Generalization: A little sample is used to arrive at a grand conclusion. Lets assume your local Motorcycle seller sells Bajaj bikes; a hasty generalization is to conclude that all motorcycle sellers in Nigeria only sell Bajaj Motorcycles.

Begging the Question or circular logic. An assumption is used as the basis to prove a conclusion; in turn, that conclusion is used as a basis to prove the original assumption.

Misuse of Authority: Pointing to a group of experts to validate a conclusion, even if those experts disagree with each other or with the conclusion. An instance would be stating that Ladies prefer a certain brand of soap, but never actually taking a poll about their preference in the first place.

Appeal to the People: taking advantage of the general public as a basis for proving a hypothesis, instead of depending on relevant evidence. Stating, “Of course, everyone accepts that as fact,” would be an example.

Argument to Future: Stating that even though a theory is not yet proven, it will be with further research and investigation.

Hypothesis Contrary to Fact: Repeating as new a theory or hypothesis already disproven. This is similar to asserting that the there is no such thing as the speed of sound, when evidence already demonstrates otherwise.

Chronological Snobbery: When a theory is either refuted or proven by dating “proof” as very old, making it either no longer available or impossible to verify.[/b]

Seun:

Really? You believe God had to rest for a day after creating the world in 6 days, despite being all-powerful? That days existed before the sun?

He did not rest because He was tired. The rest was simply a cessation of occupation. GOD simply made us understand that He created all that is in 6 literal days. He is that and even more powerful.

No, it makes me realise that the bible is full of contradictions. The mental gymnastics you must do to avoid this obvious conclusion is amazing!

Next time, before you argue the Bible with me, make sure you have read and it and informed yourself on what it teaches.

4everGod:


Your atheist scientist quoted against evolution man. Prove him wrong.

There's is no evidence he actually said anything like that, except for a few apologetics site which are far from reliable

ambassagod:


facts suggesting evolution??

oh my....

Guy, your comprehension of English language is suspect... And I can't argue with someone who doesn't speak the same language as I do

Deicide:

Please tell me what the Son of God means in That context.... If it's not angels you are not even ashamed...

You're a disgrace to intellectuality. The sons of GOD there were not angels. Angels don't reproduce, neither do they marry, nor are they given in marriage(Matt. 22:30).

Are you not EyehateGod? I'm not surprised.

DoctorAlien:


Is it not left for you to disprove the what I have said, that the human and ape chromosomes are remarkably divergent and too different for the "ape to human" evolution to explain? That the human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the chimp Y chromosome?

Disprove it

Disprove what?
What concerns chromosomes and evolution. We aren't talking about human ape copulation.
You're just trying the muddle the argument with irrelevancies. I don't have the time

randomperson:

Guy, your comprehension of English language is suspect... And I can't argue with someone who doesn't speak the same language as I do

of course, I speak Yoruba + Chinese mixed together.

carry your delusion dey go biko.

Lennycool:

Disprove what?
What concerns chromosomes and evolution. We aren't talking about human ape copulation.
You're just trying the muddle the argument with irrelevancies. I don't have the time

Disprove the OP i dare you!

Seun:

It makes sense to accept evolution on the basis of the fact that it's the best explanation of how complex and diverse life forms came to be. Best in the sense that it fits the evidence that we have far better than anything else that has ever been proposed. If you have a better one, share it.

Evolution is based on numerous conjectures - that explain the putative ancestors and numerous assumptions at some points of the timeline . Evolution would only be the best explanation if a supernatural agent orchestrated it . Why do you think some philosophical propositions like pantheism that deny the existence of an intelligent designer believe the universe is conscious and sentient ? Its because its apparent that vacuous random processes cannot yield an intelligent being with the ability to reason critically and solve problems .

You have everything that is sine qua non to the continuation of life and you attribute all these to serendipity ? Do you know how inconceivably infinitesimal the probability of such happening ? Its so insignificant and useless but you go ahead to accept such as fact That's irrational bro. Not cool bro , not cool .

What if I show you the probability of getting a job and its as low as insignificant , would you go ahead and pursue the job ? Don't you think its irrational to pursue something that you have mathematically no chances of getting?

Apply the same reasoning to how life came about .

Lennycool, I know you don't know, but there are laws of embryology that directly contradict "ape to human evolution." One reason is that genes work together in teams to form body parts during embryonic development. This makes it impossible to add genes to any genome because there is no way to coordinate any new gene with existing genes. Yet "ape to human evolution" requires apes and humans to be able to add genes - for example, the chimpanzee Y chromosome has 37 genes and the human Y chromosome has at least 78 genes.

Stop embarrassing yourself defending evolution.

Lennycool:

There's is no evidence he actually said anything like that, except for a few apologetics site which are far from reliable

One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
— James Watson

From his book the double Helix published in 1998.

Oya say something else.

Lennycool:

I never said we were the same, I said similarity proved we were not created specially.

How did my illustration elude you? Mister , with your logic computer chips and glass are not specially created because they both are made from sand

DoctorAlien:
Is it not left for you to disprove the what I have said, that the human and ape chromosomes are remarkably divergent and too different for the "ape to human" evolution to explain? That the human Y chromosome has twice as many genes as the chimp Y chromosome?
Disprove it!

This is not true, but we have 23 chromosome pairs while the other apes have 24. That's because one of our ancestors' chromosome pairs got combined at some point. There is clear evidence that this fusion occurred. One of our chromosome pairs matches two ape chromosomes pairs

Lennycool:

Disprove what?
What concerns chromosomes and evolution. We aren't talking about human ape copulation.
You're just trying the muddle the argument with irrelevancies. I don't have the time

Ladies and gentlemen, can you see that strawman?

Seun:

It makes sense to accept evolution on the basis of the fact that it's the best explanation of how complex and diverse life forms came to be. Best in the sense that it fits the evidence that we have far better than anything else that has ever been proposed. If you have a better one, share it.

No, evolution is a poor explanation. Properly understood. All evolutionists including yourself are blind to the numerous flaws of the theory. The better theory is intelligent design.

4everGod:


One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
— James Watson

From his book the double Helix published in 1998.

Oya say something else.

And again he was an atheist, so what scientists do you think he was referring to?

Seun:

For what intelligent purpose did the designer design diseases like AIDS, Ebola, flu, catarrh, Smallpox, the plague, etc which have killed billions?

That borders on the morality of the designer which ID can not and does not theorize on. Even as a deist I cannot say the purpose behind such diseases because God has not made the purpose explicit.

Seun,

Receive knowledge. Don't even try to pretend as if you know anything about science. Darwinians have no explanation for why humans and apes have a different number of chromosomes. Darwinians claim that "chromosome fusion" of two ape chromosomes into a single chromosome resulted in humans having only 23 pairs of chromosomes while apes have 24 pairs. But there is not one example of "chromosome fusion" in mammals. Darwinians claim that 1 in 1000 human babies have a "fused chromosome" but this is an out and out lie. They are actually referring to Robertsonian Translocations, which are "translocations" and not fused chromosomes and does not result in a change in the chromosome number. Besides, scientifically derived facts refute "chromosome fusion" can occur in apes or humans.

Lennycool:

And again he was an atheist, so what scientists do you think he was referring to?

Stephen Hawkin : The universe created itself

Rotflmao !!!!!!!!!! lmaooooo

Seun:

This is not true, but we have 23 chromosome pairs while the other apes have 24. That's because one of our ancestors' chromosome pairs got combined at some point. There is clear evidence that this fusion occurred. One of our chromosome pairs matches two ape chromosomes pairs

seun help yourself



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4kJlqqtvtk

DoctorAlien:


You're a disgrace to intellectuality. The sons of GOD there were not angels. Angels don't reproduce, neither do they marry, nor are they given in marriage(Matt. 22:30).

Are you not EyehateGod? I'm not surprised.

Then who is now the Son of God?

4everGod:

Same way you have been educating yourself in english yet hit us with all manner of verbal assault.

You of all people should know that Ad hominem doesn't work on me next?

KingEbukasBlog:

Stephen Hawkin : The universe created itself
Rotflmao !!!!!!!!!! lmaooooo

lol

KingEbukasBlog:


How did my illustration elude you? Mister , with your logic computer chips and glass are not specially created because they both are made from sand

Again you miss the point, saying two things are similar does not equate them to being the same.
You compare sand with computer chips, while it would more likely be a 2003 model smartphone with a 2016 model. Apes and humans. Similar but not the same.
I think the ancient Jews that wrote the bible hadn't seen apes since they lived in the middle eastern desert and hence didn't know about the physical similarities, or the creation story might've been a little different.

KingEbukasBlog:


Stephen Hawkin : The universe created itself

Rotflmao !!!!!!!!!! lmaooooo

Christians: God created himself but the universe can't do the same


Same side of coin

KingEbukasBlog:


Stephen Hawkin : The universe created itself

Rotflmao !!!!!!!!!! lmaooooo

Indeed he was refering to stephen hawkin. Lennycool is not up to speed

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool, I know you don't know, but there are laws of embryology that directly contradict "ape to human evolution." One reason is that genes work together in teams to form body parts during embryonic development. This makes it impossible to add genes to any genome because there is no way to coordinate any new gene with existing genes. Yet "ape to human evolution" requires apes and humans to be able to add genes - for example, the chimpanzee Y chromosome has 37 genes and the human Y chromosome has at least 78 genes.

Stop embarrassing yourself defending evolution.

I don't know where you're getting your facts from but embryology is one of the proofs of evolutions.

Lennycool:

I don't know where you're getting your facts from but embryology is one of the proofs of evolutions.

Ok then feel free to use embryology to refute the OP since you say it has proof of evolution.

Lennycool:
Christians: God created himself but the universe can't do the same
Same side of coin

hahahahahahahahaha nobody would be surprised by your delusion again.
Christians say God created himself? LMAO
no bro, the universe has a beginning.
go and learn biko.

Lennycool:

I don't know where you're getting your facts from but embryology is one of the proofs of evolutions.

Is this all you have to say?

It's a shame. Really.

The way creationists constantly complain about my evolution comments makes me feel I'm doing something right that they're afraid of.

DoctorAlien:
Darwinians have no explanation for why humans and apes have a different number of chromosomes

The explanation is chromosome fusion. The evidence for chromosome fusion is strong; can't imagine how you missed it. Here's it again.

But there is not one example of "chromosome fusion" in mammals.

False. We're mammals, so our chromosome fusion is one example. There other examples of fusion in mammals, for example, horses.

I don't understand why you can't accept two chromosomes fusing together in spite of the evidence, yet you can accept a talking snake story.