Seun:

The scientific community is the most skeptical group of people in the world. What is the probability that a bunch of religious apologists on Nairaland have noticed game-changing flaws in the theory of evolution that the scientific community didn't notice during 157 years of intense study? I welcome any honest scrutiny of the theory of evolution, but it is absolutely bonkers to claim that you have "exposed it as a fraud".

Seun:
Trying to discredit evolution is just silly. Even the Catholic church, which rejects contraceptive use, accepts evolution. Stop disgracing yourself! This is not to say that I don't welcome questioning of evolution, but do you think smarter people haven't asked the same questions since 1859?

These are the sorriest and saddest anti-intellectual and anti-inquiry posts I have seen in a long time. Sadder still that they come from a gentleman, the owner of this forum, who one would have presumed would possess a better mind.

It is obviously lost on this fellow also that the objections raised are raised by eminent and suitably qualified scientists as well - and not simply by "a bunch of religious apologists on nairaland."

You even speak in derogatory terms about your own forum.

KingEbukasBlog:
Page 20 and not even a single worthy rebuttal against the OP . All these evolutionists especially the atheists should start saying something reasonable ooo

pls give me the links to where he raised points...

KingEbukasBlog:


God did not create pathogens directly - they are the products of random mutation and are also indispensable to life. Like the virus are part of the ocean's nutrient cycle and the bacteria live in our intestines and perform certain duties like metabolizing unused energy substrates and preventing the growth of harmful species . They also help in the production of vitamins like vitamin k and biotin .

The bacteria are living organisms that depend on the host like you to survive while you eat other animals for your survival - your turkey , goat ,cows you'd enjoy during this season , they serve as food to give you the energy which would be used to add your quota to the cycle of life and you check their population .

The existence of these pathogens have helped immensely in the study of nature , especially in genetics .

And for limiting child birth , humans are intelligent enough to reduce the number of births that they have willingly. Women also experience menopause as early of 40 years . Some men and women have the propensity to have fewer children .

Life is inconceivably complex .

but in heaven all these do not exist right?
So you claim is baseless...

MrMontella:

pls give me the links to where he raised points...

Oga stop being lazy. You claim to be well and widely read. The entire OP is the point. Earlier you said the OP is a sham yet here you show you have not even read it to show its a sham. How much of a liar can you be?

You quickly say something is false even before reading it?

Go ahead and read it and stop being small minded and deceptive.

4everGod:


Are you ready to read the OP now and refute it instead of jumping on comments outside the OP

i am not ready to read the op for reasons i told you..
But i will deal with your article if you can direct me to links where points where raised...thanks

MrMontella:

i am not ready to read the op for reasons i told you..
But i will deal with your article if you can direct me to links where points where raised...thanks

I am not your errand boy. If you cannot take your time to read the entire OP so you would get the full import rather than cherry picking points then it shows just how much of a self acclaimed intellectual you are.

4everGod:


Can you show us proof of this? If you re going to start telling us about Vestigial organs then forget it because those are DOA.

what do you mean?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atavism
atavism does have to do with vestiges to an extent..

4everGod:


I am not your errand boy. If you cannot take your time to read the entire OP so you would get the full import rather than cherry picking points then it shows just how much of a self acclaimed intellectual you are.

the first two pages and nothing...
How do i even know where they are?

MrMontella:

what do you mean?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atavism
atavism does have to do with vestiges to an extent..

I know what Atavism is and its branches so spare me the link.

Read the OP and stop embarrassing yourself here.

ambassagod:

and the stupidity continues...

[s]please, 4everGod can we take out time to organise a nairaland Sunday school lesson for the dumb boy? maybe we would teach him what
a creator means, and what his nature must be for him to be a universal creator.
[/s]

for the umpteenth time
A supreme being is not ruled out
The Abrahamic God is
If it were only christians that believed in God then Diests won't exist
You guys don't own the God concept
Kapeesh??

MrMontella:
the first two pages and nothing...
How do i even know where they are?

If you like skim through seeking out points and not for the sake of understanding the entire OP. I will still know.

jonbellion:
for the umpteenth time
A supreme being is not ruled out
The Abrahamic God is
If it were only christians that believed in God then Diests won't exist
You guys don't own the God concept
Kapeesh??

Was Ambassagods comment directed at you?

Please is there any here who is a physicist or a biochemist? Or can anyone here give me their scientific leaning?

4everGod:


I know what Atavism is and its branches so spare me the link.

Read the OP and stop embarrassing yourself here.

how did i embarrass myself?
Can you prove?


My Atavistic input was not in direct relation with the op..
But with Doctoralien's statement..


I said...atavism disproves man as created in the bible..


Mans embroyonic's ''tail'' which fails to retract and continues to develop after initial stages of the embryo..


Under creation as depicted in the bible...is man supposed to have a ''tail''?

MrMontella:

how did i embarrass myself?
Can you prove?


My Atavistic input was not in direct relation with the op..
But with Doctoralien's statement..


I said...atavism disproves man as created in the bible..


Mans embroyonic's ''tail'' which fails to retract and continues to develop after initial stages of the embryo..


Under creation as depicted in the bible...is man supposed to have a ''tail''?

Creationism can be tackled on another thread so please stop derailing this one. This is about evolution.Thank you.

4everGod:


Was Ambassagods comment directed at you?

I don't see the point of this
I was just addressing the dumb false dichtonomy that if you don't believe in the christian God that automatically
make you am athiest so therefore christians own the god concept

jonbellion:
I don't see the point of this
I was just addressing the dumb false dichtonomy that if you don't believe in the christian God that automatically
make you am athiest so therefore christians own the god concept

"so therefore" is not proper English. "SO" or "THEREFORE" would suffice.

His comment has been long made so do not dig it back up as i do not want any diversion of focus.

4everGod:


"so therefore" is not proper English. "SO" or "THEREFORE" will suffice.

His comment has been long made so do not dig it back up as i do not want any diversion of focus.

whatever

Kingebukasblog...
You said chimpanzees are not created in the image of God because they dont have spirits...
Only man does...
The bible disagrees

Ecclesiastes 3:21 Good News Translation (GNT) How can anyone be sure that the human spirit goes upward while an animal's spirit
goes down into the ground?

see? According to the bible, animals have SPIRITS...Ille est; an immaterial part.

MrMontella:
Kingebukasblog...
You said chimpanzees are not created in the image of God because they dont have spirits...
Only man does...
The bible disagrees

see? According to the bible, animals have SPIRITS...Ille est; an immaterial part.

looool
Image of god

4everGod:


Creationism can be tackled on another thread so please stop derailing this one. This is about evolution.Thank you.

atavism is indirectly related to the op...
As it is a proof of evolution..

But if you want the thread to be about tackling the OP..no problem..

Hint me on the pages where you started raising points...to many comments inbetween and some of your posts are dificult to read...

jonbellion:
looool
Image of god

i wasnt around much during their rambles here..
Wasnt here last night...m just reading the nonsenses the theists have been posting now...
Its funny...

Ranchhoddas:
Sorry, I was banned by the moderators on some trumped-up charges... Back to the matter...Logic simply put is the study of principles governing correct inference.

And that has everything to do with science.

When you begin to say things like; 'your heartbeat is proof of God'

In the first place, this was not the statement for which the issue of logic and science arose.

In the second place, I make that statement with reference to energy and power - and how these require a source. In case it missed you, the word "heartbeat" there refers not only to your physical heart beat, but more importantly to the living energy that rests within you and enables you to be alive in the first place.

That living energy has a source and that is what I referred to.

Also that was just one statement - there is a build up of many statements to form a whole in this discussion, and we have not even scratched the surface with your hero Mr. Benzilch - who is quite the daftee, sorry.

and then proceed to hurl insults at everyone who holds a contrary view

Oh no: your hero Benzic is a bonafide daftee. I repeat it. I shout it. I affirm it. I bl.oody shriek it!

Teempakguy:


0. yes, really.

1. I meant NOT nothing. a square circle, a dot, even an imaginary complex number is still something. Nothing is quite literally . . . Nothing.

2. time is not a necessary thing. it's just another dimension. one that has been shown to be quite malleable in the theories of relativity. if you are incapable of imagining a place without space nor time, that is not my fault.

3. @bolded which you asked me to explain: I assumed it was self-explanatory, but hey,

imagine a black piece of paper. say I come to you and claim this paper will immediately become white. what will you say? the laws of physics prevent this. in other words, if not for the laws, I can claim that anything will happen and it could. I can claim that a three horned unicorn will suddenly appear. for every argument you make that this will not happen, I can make a symmetrical, yet opposite argument that it will.

nothing is the ultimate fair dice. totally unpredictable because there are simply no laws or constraints.

the fact is, an Almighty God is perfectly capable of coming into existence from nothing. Why not? I'm not an atheist because I think it's impossible for that to happen.

This is just full of absurd and unwholesome contradictions. See my earlier revert to you above.

MrMontella:

i wasnt around much during their rambles here..
Wasnt here last night...m just reading the nonsenses the theists have been posting now...
Its funny...

their matter just tire person

jonbellion:
their matter just tire person

Have you remotely said anything related to the topic of the thread? Should you even be here and commenting when you have no contribution besides your usual memes

4everGod:


Have you remotely said anything related to the topic of the thread? Should you even be here and commenting when you have no contribution besides your usual memes

looool
But we have addressed evolution before naa
It was just tiring to see another thread

DeepSight:


This is just full of absurd and unwholesome contradictions. See my earlier revert to you above.

Baron Deepsight how goes your day my good sir. Fret not over these dolts. Their little knowledge of anything is always falsely magnified as absolute.

You can see it all playing out in living color here.

jonbellion:
looool
But we have addressed evolution before naa
It was just tiring to see another thread

Where have you "addressed" Evolution, can you show me, that I may see how you "addressed" it.

jonbellion:
looool
But we have addressed evolution before naa
It was just tiring to see another thread

You have but i havent. So far all those you claim have addressed evolution have copped out here and some have even denied evolution. I guess some threads do give one food for thought.

DeepSight:


Where have you "addressed" Evolution, can you show me, that I may see how you "addressed" it.

Sire! Do not take the lad seriously. He is just eager to speak while shivering in his boots.

4everGod:


You have but i havent. So far all those you claim have addressed evolution have copped out here and some have even denied evolution. I guess some threads do give one food for thought.

I haven't fully read it though
Lemme go through it and contribute