MrMontella:


we cant be on the same level...

You're still evolving at an atomic rate!


switch?
Philosophical propositions?
Religious perspectives?

And you're a stanuch christian?

Indeed your are confused!

winner01:
yes boss

jonbellion:
lol
Ebuka is obviously a diest
He's just laying low so as not to disappoint his christian pals
Ebuka you can join the cool kids

dalaman:


You have failed to show me how loving my family is meaningless because I will die someday. How does life after death add meaning to me loving my wife and kids? You haven't demonstrated that at all. Purpose fits very well with my world view. You haven't shown my how the end of life makes me enjoying this life a meaningless venture.

damogul:


What is this one saying? If they are counting cool kids will you jump out? How much dey your pocket?

jonbellion:
lol
What does that matter

KingEbukasBlog:


Read Grizzlybear's threads and see how

https://www.nairaland.com/3498459/think-human-race-needs-stop
https://www.nairaland.com/3479134/meaninglessness-human-existence-immortality-religion

And tell me if anyone who acknowledges the existence of God will have such thoughts

our religion is one of very
comfortable nihilism.

jonbellion:
lol Ebuka is obviously a diest He's just laying low so as not to disappoint his christian pals Ebuka you can join the cool kids

jonbellion:
lol
Ebuka is obviously a diest
He's just laying low so as not to disappoint his christian pals
Ebuka you can join the cool kids

KingEbukasBlog:


I am not a deist bro . Refuting an atheist argument from different perspectives does not make me any less of a Christian . Its just a way of exposing how specious and tenuous the argument is .

Example The argument from poor design can be refuted from the perspectives of

1. Christianity

2. Theistic evolution

3. Panentheism

4. Deism

Since I can use these perspectives to refute the argument , that means I'm no longer a Christian ? Haba!

MrMontella:

yes..in a way!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bentley_Hart
He's a known christian author
in his webpage he released his views:
some form of ''christian nihilism''

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2003/10/christ-and-nothing

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

from wiki's page on nihilism,

damogul:
[b]Deepsight allow me to entertain you while you are in the can. Remember this Post? You really took the gloves off that time. It was bare knuckle assault.

KingEbukasBlog:


In Christian atheism , an atheist can himself a Christian . So there you go .

Christian nihilism is like an oxymoron . There is no such thing as that .

Christ :Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest

Nihilism : Leads to depression , suicide , impulse to destroy and commit so many sinful acts .

Where is the compatibility ?

dalaman:


Am not a nihilist so why should I subscribe to anything they posit?

KingEbukasBlog:


In Christian atheism , an atheist can himself a Christian . So there you go .

Christian nihilism is like an oxymoron . There is no such thing as that .

Christ :Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest

Nihilism : Leads to depression , suicide , impulse to destroy and commit so many sinful acts .

Where is the compatibility ?

MrMontella:

yes..in a way!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bentley_Hart
He's a known christian author
in his webpage he released his views:
some form of ''christian nihilism''

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2003/10/christ-and-nothing

---

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

from wiki's page on nihilism,

DeepSight:


The cowardly bann is over. The chap has light skin. Na im get im forum to do as he pleases. In fact e fit ban me again for this statement alone. Im sha know say i no send am.

KingEbukasBlog:


In reality , since you deny the existence of God and believe that life has no general purpose or meaning that you are professing ideas in existential nihilism .

As far as you are without God and trying to invent meaning to your life in a universe you consider purposeless and meaningless then you are an existential nihilist , basically .

damogul:


You did not finish the article. Let me help you. Cherrypicking is a bad thing.

[b]Note however that Kierkegaard's meaning of "nihilism" differs from the modern definition in the sense that, for Kierkegaard, levelling led to a life lacking meaning, purpose or value,[20] whereas the modern interpretation of nihilism posits that there was never any meaning, purpose or value to begin with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

MrMontella:

i dont think the belief in God entails purpose of life..

Not all Gods demand worship..
or have anything to do with us
E.g The deistic God(s)

so what do you say then?

MrMontella:

dont ask me..
Ask them

and dont gimme an atheist can call himself a christian...
Or else
Grizzlybear is a muslim then


David has books against atheism...he has books affirming his belief in a creator,,

m guessing he doesnt believe god gives meaning to life..

at least you've seen someone can believe in God and harbor such thoughts!

MrMontella:

Sire,,I did not cherrypick...

I bolded where the article said that he held the belief of an early form of nihilism..

And on the levelling,,he posited and advocated for it

MrMontella:

Sire,,I did not cherrypick...

I bolded where the article said that he held the belief of an early form of nihilism..

And on the levelling,,he posited and advocated for it

KingEbukasBlog:


Nihilism avers that God does not exist or He is dead . Nihilism says that life has no meaning or purpose since there is no creator . The word nihilism comes from the Latin word nihil, which means "nothing" and it shares the same root with "annihilate" , which is "to destroy completely".

Anger , hatred can can induce the urge to destroy and the bible exhorts us to love and be peaceful . The devil in the bible has been associated with destruction .

All these things in Nihilism are incongruous with the teachings of Christ . So how can you subscribe to Nihilism as a Christian ? Show me how intelligent you are and prove to me why 'Christian Nihilism' makes any modicum of sense to any one cognizant of both teachings .

damogul:


Its an Oxymoron

KingEbukasBlog:


Nihilism avers that God does not exist or He is dead . Nihilism says that life has no meaning or purpose since there is no creator . The word nihilism comes from the Latin word nihil, which means "nothing" and it shares the same root with "annihilate" , which is "to destroy completely"

Anger , hatred can can induce the urge to destroy and the bible exhorts us to love and be peaceful . The devil in the bible has been associated with destruction .

All these things in Nihilism are incongruous with the teachings of Christ . So how can you subscribe to Nihilism as a Christian ? Show me how intelligent you are and prove to me why 'Christian Nihilism' makes any modicum of sense to any one cognizant of both teachings .

Ecclesiastes 1 Good News Translation (GNT)

2It is useless, useless, said the Philosopher .Life is useless, all useless.

damogul:



A nihilist is a man who judges of the world as it is that it ought not to be, and of the world as it ought to be that it does not exist. According to this view, our existence (action, suffering, willing, feeling) has no meaning: the pathos of 'in vain' is the nihilists' pathos — at the same time, as pathos, an inconsistency on the part of the nihilists.

— Friedrich Nietzsche, KSA 12:9 [60], taken from The Will to Power, section 585, translated by Walter Kaufmann

[b]Stanley Rosen identifies Nietzsche's concept of nihilism with a situation of meaninglessness, in which "everything is permitted." According to him, the loss of higher metaphysical values that exist in contrast to the base reality of the world, or merely human ideas, gives rise to the idea that all human ideas are therefore valueless. Rejecting idealism thus results in nihilism, because only similarly transcendent ideals live up to the previous standards that the nihilist still implicitly holds.[34] The inability for Christianity to serve as a source of valuating the world is reflected in Nietzsche's famous aphorism of the madman in The Gay Science.[35] The death of God, in particular the statement that "we killed him", is similar to the self-dissolution of Christian doctrine: due to the advances of the sciences, which for Nietzsche show that man is the product of evolution, that Earth has no special place among the stars and that history is not progressive, the Christian notion of God can no longer serve as a basis for a morality.[/b]

MrMontella:

correct me if im wrong..
But in that wikipedia page...
In all the types of nihilism listed...
None stated God..

MrMontella:
the existence of christian suicide bombers...
You can connect it right?

MrMontella:
Also..the existence of ''christian atheism''

also..i dont think ''christ'' defines christianity alone..

The bible is an authority in christianity too

MrMontella:
Ecclesiastes 1 Good News Translation (GNT)

2It is useless, useless, said the Philosopher .Life is useless, all useless.

KingEbukasBlog:


In reality , since you deny the existence of God and believe that life has no general purpose or meaning that you are professing ideas in existential nihilism.

As far as you are without God and trying to invent meaning to your life in a universe you consider purposeless and meaningless then you are an existential nihilist , basically .

KingEbukasBlog:


I am not a deist bro . Refuting an atheist argument from different perspectives does not make me any less of a Christian . Its just a way of exposing how specious and tenuous the argument is .

Example The argument from poor design can be refuted from the perspectives of

1. Christianity

2. Theistic evolution

3. Panentheism

4. Deism

Since I can use these perspectives to refute the argument , that means I'm no longer a Christian ? Haba!