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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Rilwayne001: 7:13pm On Dec 19, 2016
solomonbrown64:
......... Sometimes I wonder why I even get surprised at what we play during big games. Apart from the Chelsea before they became the beast they now are, how many big games have we dominated this season?

.... Psg out played and completely dominated us from beginning to end in both legs, United we all troll decimated us and if it wasn't for their inability to find the net, we wouldn't even be talking about a draw now. Mancity with a second team taught us how to play football yesterday and should we meet the current Chelsea side again, some of us might deactivate our accounts after the score line...... Yes, we are that pathetic.

... No drive, no hunger except from Sanchez and it was obvious yesterday that only him cannot do it all. Kosciency the acclaimed best is plain average without Per or Mustafi as he seems unable to organize his defense. I don't even want to talk about Cech or our awful midfield devoid of life or creativity. Coquelin has no clue on what to do with the ball, just runs all around non-stop getting cards while Xhaka seems incapable of using his legs and yet we mock Pogba who is ten times better than all of our midfielders.

...... Perez has shown time and again what he can do and instead of Wenger to form a partnership with him and Sanchez, he leaves him to rot on the bench, same thing he did to Campbell and Podoski.
...
.... The old man keeps blaming the refs like it is their fault his team keeps getting outplayed in every big match. Is it the ref's fault that he keeps failing to change tactics if the current one employed isn't working? Look at what Pep did after half time and the instant changes that occurred but Wenger would never do that, he prefers to converse with the fourth ref..

....... If the old man has any legacy left he should just leave after this season because the lady-like mentality he has installed in every player since the move to the Emirates is one of main reasons we can't dominate big games. I hear we are getting Simeone as he has been learning how to speak English for the last two years. His change this season from negative football to a more passing one says it all, he might just be heading to the Emirates. Wenger should join the board or lead the Charity club, he is no longer needed. grin

Wow! This is well spelt out.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:21pm On Dec 19, 2016
Spy360:

I understand all these. My question is why shouldn't he?

At a time your team is under pressure, your MF are all over the place, as a leader you should lead the press.

Sanchez was doing it all first half, beckoning on Ozil and Walcott to help. He got discouraged. You could spot him bending down wondering, what blip is Oz.

Like it or not, Ozil's value plummeted last night.
U didn't complain when we won games without him tackling, so u shouldn't say we lost yesterday cos of Ozil that's my point u ain't getting.
The games we won, were they due to Ozil winning tackles? When u answer this question perhaps u'll understand my line of argument.
Cos I'm still trying to find how yesterday's defeat was Ozil's fault.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:26pm On Dec 19, 2016
And what's d moral justification behind benching Lucas despite his performance against Basel.

Cc Spy360
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by eph12(m): 7:27pm On Dec 19, 2016
Spy360:

If after winning 3 games in a row, I still got stuck on 6th, I'd hug a transformer. But I am not United.
Is that all?

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:33pm On Dec 19, 2016
Fkforyou:


It was at that point I lost my patience, I could swear the guy didn't touch the ball more than thrice.
I wonder what Wenger sees in him,against Everton, he was ineffective when he was introduced yet Wenger still brought him in (against Man shitty) when we were lacking in possession. Sometimes I feel Wenger doesn't study the game before making his substitution. He just makes a plan and sticks to it whether it works or not.
The man is too comfortable on the job, no aggression whatsoever just disgustingly docile!! He manages the team like a national team now .
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by An0nimus: 8:17pm On Dec 19, 2016
rinse and repeat guys, rinse and repeat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4oWpvJ0f8Q
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by An0nimus: 8:18pm On Dec 19, 2016
until Wenger leaves, expect more days like yesterday.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kenekene1(m): 8:39pm On Dec 19, 2016
Oh Arsenal fans, I hail unaaa. ..

U guys are the most enduring fans in the universe.

http://eneprom..com.ng/2016/12/premier-league-why-does-arsene-wenger_19.html?m=1

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pamcode(m): 9:57pm On Dec 19, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
I don't know how some peeps watch games, pple just want to join the bandwagon and yell Ozil.

Them no know ball jor
Don't mind them some of them were berating Mourinho for bringing in fellaini instead of mata like say mata na Kante plus makalele cccombined in one.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:09pm On Dec 19, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

U didn't complain when we won games without him tackling, so u shouldn't say we lost yesterday cos of Ozil that's my point u ain't getting.
The games we won, were they due to Ozil winning tackles? When u answer this question perhaps u'll understand my line of argument.
Cos I'm still trying to find how yesterday's defeat was Ozil's fault.
Like I said, there are times when the team gets under pressure, then they need their stars to step up the gear.

If we are dominating that's different. But the winning mentality comes when the team is not playing well.

You don't get paid £300k for strolling when you team is down. If you are asking for that amount, then you got to step up in big games. Ozil for one disappears when he sees big opponents.

I am not saying he is not good, my point is that he needs to add that steel and aggression to his game to be a real star.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:13pm On Dec 19, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
And what's d moral justification behind benching Lucas despite his performance against Basel.

Cc Spy360
There is absolutely no reason why AW should leave Lucas on the bench after is hattrick against Basel. Absolutely no reason.

In both matches, we needed fresh legs. That was a right time to use Lucas.

So much for 20years in EPL but still acting naive.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:17pm On Dec 19, 2016
eph12:
Is that all?
Go and climb high tension. You deserve better than 6th.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkforyou(m): 10:27pm On Dec 19, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

The man is too comfortable on the job, no aggression whatsoever just disgustingly docile!! He manages the team like a national team now .

I'm telling you. Sometimes al(though there are exceptions) the way a team plays is reflection of the coach's attitude or demeanor.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 11:11pm On Dec 19, 2016
I just thank God I no watch that match... but come on... what is wrong with Cech...?!!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:40pm On Dec 19, 2016
Mesut Özil's game by numbers vs. Man City:

1 chance created
0 crosses completed
0 take-ons completed
0 shots

Anon… https:///jD3lrJalnY
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Debroslink: 12:52am On Dec 20, 2016
Ronaldo and Benzema kept scoring against Barcelona, and you would think it's their "creator in chief" Ozil that is supplying the assists.

You are wrong.

1 assist in 10 games vs barcelona is a woeful performance. The guy chokes in big games is not new to us in Spain.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Emaprince: 5:19am On Dec 20, 2016
^^

Just to spite Ozil, you are shamelessly telling us how Ororo (the best player to ever do it) and that lazy Benzema have been opening barca nyash? Hmm.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:13pm On Dec 20, 2016
amsey, ox and elnenny would have been their usual targets to pour all blames on.

The truth I repeat is that we need a Simeone like as a manager, sm1 to instill steel and a do or die attitude into our boys..

I Insist not only ozil,but iwobi,walcoot,giroud and sometimes ox are too Ladylike, they have zero steel, only Sanchez was willing to burn energy and die there, special shootout to welbeck and Campbell for they give their all...

wish we had a Sissoko,mane and kante, those and Sanchez
would bully any defense.. but the boss
likes soft handsome players, and now any
team who applies pressure and a bit
kicking, wins so easily and bullies our
players like kids.. so irritating imagining
our manager is the most experienced of
them all.

Unless we address this issue, expect game like this at liverpool,chelsea,spurs,stoke and southampton..the rest are very winnable for our" girls".

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by elrony(m): 2:36pm On Dec 20, 2016
grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Debroslink: 3:37pm On Dec 20, 2016
Emaprince:
^^

Just to spite Ozil, you are shamelessly telling us how Ororo (the best player to ever do it) and that lazy Benzema have been opening barca nyash? Hmm.


Ororo I know, Benzema I know, even Kanu Nwankwo has opened Barca's yansh at Camp Nou while wearing Arsenal's colours.

So ki ni big deal? undecided

Ozil is a ghost in big games. Deal with it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:07pm On Dec 20, 2016
Fkhalifa:
amsey, ox and elnenny would have been their usual targets to pour all blames on.

The truth I repeat is that we need a Simeone like as a manager, sm1 to instill steel and a do or die attitude into our boys..

I Insist not only ozil,but iwobi,walcoot,giroud and sometimes ox are too Ladylike, they have zero steel, only Sanchez was willing to burn energy and die there, special shootout to welbeck and Campbell for they give their all...

wish we had a Sissoko,mane and kante, those and Sanchez
would bully any defense.. but the boss
likes soft handsome players, and now any
team who applies pressure and a bit
kicking, wins so easily and bullies our
players like kids.. so irritating imagining
our manager is the most experienced of
them all.

Unless we address this issue, expect game like this at liverpool,chelsea,spurs,stoke and southampton..the rest are very winnable for our" girls".
Don't worry.
After we beat Crystal Palace 3-0 on 26th, everything comes to normal and the whinings seize.

Welbeck returns in Jan like a new signing. Per and Cazorla too.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Rilwayne001: 4:13pm On Dec 20, 2016
Who else thinks Arsenal should go for Payet? We need a skillful player like him in the midfield.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:13pm On Dec 20, 2016
Debroslink:


Ororo I know, Benzema I know, even Kanu Nwankwo has opened Barca's yansh at Camp Nou while wearing Arsenal's colours.

So ki ni big deal? undecided

Ozil is a ghost in big games. Deal with it.
If you are a Barca fan, then you are indirectly fooling yourself. sad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:47pm On Dec 20, 2016
Rilwayne001:
Who else thinks Arsenal should go for Payet? We need a skillful player like him in the midfield.

It's saying Ozil to bleep off.

A statement of intent.

He can replace either Ozil or Cazorla.

But I doubt if Wenger will sign a 29yo. sad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AbuMikey(m): 4:58pm On Dec 20, 2016
Spy360:

Fatigue.

The UCL ends in the first week of Dec, ten the fixture pile up with little recovery.

Squad rotation could have salvaged the situation. But our 'experienced' manager forgot. Kept playing the same team. Now he's got his work cut out.

Its now getting too long, and one might think the problem isn't squad rotation at all... but a problem with the coach.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Rilwayne001: 5:42pm On Dec 20, 2016
Spy360:

It's saying Ozil to bleep off.
A statement of intent.
He can replace either Ozil or Cazorla.
But I doubt if Wenger will sign a 29yo. (

embarassed embarassed
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 5:56pm On Dec 20, 2016
Spy360:
Don't worry.
After we beat Crystal Palace 3-0 on 26th, everything comes to normal and the whinings seize.

Welbeck returns in Jan like a new signing. Per and Cazorla too.


grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 5:57pm On Dec 20, 2016
Lamentations thread.... cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:36pm On Dec 20, 2016
Spy360:
Don't worry.
After we beat Crystal Palace 3-0 on 26th, everything comes to normal and the whinings seize.

Welbeck returns in Jan like a new signing. Per and Cazorla too.
for some fans not me, we will have a good run till February, then we start facing our bullies. Mark my post.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:02pm On Dec 20, 2016
Fkhalifa:
for some fans not me, we will have a good run till February, then we start facing our bullies. Mark my post.
same old story nd d seson end in February
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:06pm On Dec 20, 2016
Sunday’s damaging Premier League loss to Manchester City at the Etihad was an example of how social media has the ability to alter and influence people’s opinions far too easily. A 10-second clip of Ozil walking around the pitch at 2-1 down while City’s defenders kept possession between them prompted reactionary tweets labelling the German international "lazy" and were quickly used to justify why the Gunners should not reward the 28-year-old with a bumper £250,000-a-week deal.

That clip was not only misleading but also far from the truth.

Ozil has created 330 chances and made 35 assists in the Premier League since his debut in September 2013, both of which are highs in the top flight. In 26 games for club and country this season, he has scored 10 goals and notched five assists. Those who have accused Ozil of not turning up in the big games may need reminding of last season, when he was highly influential against Bayern Munich at Emirates Stadium, Manchester City at home and more recently in September when Arsenal put three goals past Chelsea.



The former Schalke and Werder Bremen star is the perfect scapegoat in a country that has traditionally rewarded outward signs of aggression and passion. If you’re not ‘putting your foot in’, shouting at a team-mate or sprinting up and down the pitch for 90 minutes then your performance will almost certainly be questioned by the masses. Indeed, the relaxed, bordering on ostentatious, body language of Ozil has drawn criticism since he touched down in north London three years ago, although he has made a conscious effort to improve that part of his on-field persona.

“My goal is to make sure my body language is right,” Ozil said in April.

“When I make a mistake, I get annoyed and you can tell from my body language. But these days I try to make sure I don't do that anymore because in football you can make mistakes and play a bad pass.
There is an acceptance of Ozil’s somewhat negative body language when he’s creating chances, making goals and influencing play that changes as soon as Arsenal lose or fail to muster up a clear attacking opportunity. Ozil was bought to create those key chances and he has certainly done that since signing for the Gunners. He was unable to influence play against City due to Arsenal sitting deep and punting long balls forward from goal kicks, something that Alexis Sanchez in particular became visibly frustrated by.

Ozil has covered more ground per 90 minutes in the league this season than Alexis, Theo Walcott, Francis Coquelin and Laurent Koscielny. It is a statistic that may surprise some, but is an embodiment of the myth about him being a ‘lazy’ player. He does work hard and it goes completely unnoticed due to a wrongly perceived arrogance and carelessness in his game. At the Etihad on Sunday, a frustrated Ozil was forced to drop deep to collect the ball and initiate movement going forward, which meant Arsenal were devoid of a true playmaker due to the German essentially playing the role Santi Cazorla has been doing for several seasons.

The problem is not that ‘Mesut Ozil goes missing in the big games’. Instead, it is Arsenal who go missing in the big games. Whether that’s down to a long-term psychological or tactical issue remains unclear, but the obvious reason for his ineffectiveness against Manchester City was due to his team-mates failure to bring him into the game. Playing such a deep formation against a Pep Guardiola side was never going to get the best out of Alexis or Ozil.

Those questions over whether he warrants a considerable pay rise will most likely continue until he provides his next moment of magic in an Arsenal shirt. His contributions to the team have seen him break records over the past year and it may be a case of those critics not realising what the Gunners have until it’s gone. For Ozil, you can guarantee his response will be a resounding one on the pitch.

Culled from GOAL.com
http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4071/premier-league/2016/12/20/30694932/leave-mesut-alone-criticism-of-perfect-scapegoat-ozil-repetitive-

Pple wey know ball don talk
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mystikal(m): 10:50pm On Dec 20, 2016
Tough to see arteta rejoicing when the city second goal went in

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