In 2016, Nigerians have seen many killed because of their religious convictions. These deaths have been deeply saddening as the bereaved have continued to cry out for justice.

As the year ends, Naij.com is compiling a list of some of the religious killings that shook the country to its core, so that we might reflect on them and prevent such happenings in the new year.

1. Bridget Agbahime

Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Bridget Agbahime was a 74 year old Igbo market woman, originally from Imo state, who sold kitchen utensils in Kano.

On June 2, 2016, she was brutally attacked and killed at Kofar Wambai Market in Kano by a Muslim mob who accused her of blasphemy.

According to reports, she was pounced upon and murdered after she refused to allow a Muslim man perform ablution in front of her shop.

As expected, there was outrage and promises to bring the perpetrators to justice. The prime suspect in the murder, Dauda Ahmad was arrested, and so were four others: Abdullahi Mustapha, Zubairu Abubakar, Abdullahi Abubakar and Musa Abdullahi.

However, six weeks ago they were all set free by the court and as at the time of this report, no explanation has been given. No justice has been served.


2. Eunice Olawale Elisha

Eunice Olawale Elisha was a 42-year-old mother of seven, who loved to preach. What she loved was one of the factors that led to her death on July 9, 2016.

The Ekiti state born indigene has lived in the Kubwa area of Abuja, with her family for many years before she lost her life in the early hours of July 9.

She was well known as a Pentecostal preacher. Reports have it that she was stabbed to death by suspected Muslim extremists.

Shortly after the body was discovered, on a Saturday, the police said they had arrested some suspects and had commenced investigation on the matter.

Yet up till now, about five months later, no suspects have been brought to justice.

3. Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel

Mr Methodus' death was reported by the Nigerian army as follows:

"At about 6pm yesterday, May 29, 2016, one Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel, a 24-year-old trader based in Pandogari, Rafi LGA of Niger state was attacked and killed by a mob in the town on allegation of posting a blasphemous statement about Prophet Muhammad on the social media."

The alleged Facebook post is yet to be presented, but it was said that he insulted the Prophet Muhammad in the post.

The Nigerian army quelled the resulting riot, there have been no reports of the prosecution of his killers.

4. 8 Christians killed in September 2016

Women weeping following a killing
Women weeping following a killing
On Sunday, September 18, eight Christians were killed as they left church according to the Catholic Herald in the UK.

During the same time, Islamic extremists, suspected to be Boko Haram killed more than 40 troops from a multi-national force in an attack on a convoy in north-east Nigeria.

Read more:

https://www.naij.com/1078328-2016inreview-6-religious-killings-happened-2016.html

What is the muslims' definition of peace?

Everybody knows the answer to this question. What we need to know is what can be done to make it more peaceful.

Religion might have bad effect on people's behavior but what you posted concerning your topic is fallacy (hasty generalization).

tintingz:
Religion might have bad effect on people's behavior but what you posted concerning your topic is fallacy (hasty generalization).

Fallacy?

Were Nigerians not in the know of those events?

Sorry for you o !!!

Seun:
Everybody knows the answer to this question. What we need to know is what can be done to make it more peaceful.

More peaceful?

Has it been ever peaceful?

It cannot be peaceful as long as the Quran exists.

truthmans2012:
It cannot be peaceful as long as the Quran exists.

The key is interpretation. Sadly, Saudi Arabia has embraced the most violent interpretation of Islam, which they practice, and they are using their oil money to promote it all over the world. Check out this video of muslims laughing at the idea of forcing women to wear Hijab in 1958:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv0agvY3jvo

Hahahah....Oga Seun, thanks for this response. I'm happy you spoke the truth.

Seun:
Everybody knows the answer to this question. What we need to know is what can be done to make it more peaceful.

These Mohammedians sef

Seun:
Everybody knows the answer to this question. What we need to know is what can be done to make it more peaceful.

Seun:
The key is interpretation. Sadly, Saudi Arabia has embraced the most violent interpretation of Islam, which they practice, and they are using their oil money to promote it all over the world. Check out this video of muslims laughing at the idea of forcing women to wear Hijab in 1958:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv0agvY3jvo

Saudi Arabia knows islam better than any other nation. The religion originated from there. Apart from the fact that Quran is written in their mother tongue, Saudi Arabia is the home of the prophet of Islam. They are following strictly the injunctions of the religion as laid down by Muhammad. The fact that Saudi Arabia exhibits violence is a confirmation that islam is a religion of violence, no doubt.

Any muslim who does not believe in violence should quit the religion. It is meant for the violent. The fewer they are the more peaceful the world will become. But for anyone to still believe islam is a religion of peace amounts to self deception.

The leader of Isis is a Ph.D holder is Islamic Studies. Like Saudi Arabia, the man cannot be said to be ignorant of the interpretation of the Qur'an. Islam was founded on violence and continues to exist on violence. Three days ago I heard on AIT news that eight people were killed in one of the Islamic countries for apostasy.

I then wondered why God would reintroduce violence to the world after Jesus had ended it. Is Allah the sender of Jesus?

truthmans2012:
The leader of Isis is a Ph.D holder is Islamic Studies. Like Saudi Arabia, the man cannot be said to be ignorant of the interpretation of the Qur'an. Islam was founded on violence and continues to exist on violence. Three days ago I heard on AIT news that eight people were killed in one of the Islamic countries for apostasy.

I then wondered why God would reintroduce violence to the world after Jesus had ended it. Is Allah the sender of Jesus?

Very well said, to claim that islam is a religion Of peace is to deny the obvious. Islam was established in violence by mohamed and he encouraged his followers to Emulate him.

annunaki2:


Very well said, to claim that islam is a religion Of peace is to deny the obvious. Islam was established in violence by mohamed ac hehe encouraged his followers to Emulate him.

Hi bro.

It is quite three days.

truthmans2012:
In 2016, Nigerians have seen many killed because of their religious convictions. These deaths have been deeply saddening as the bereaved have continued to cry out for justice.

As the year ends, Naij.com is compiling a list of some of the religious killings that shook the country to its core, so that we might reflect on them and prevent such happenings in the new year.

1. Bridget Agbahime

Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Bridget Agbahime was a 74 year old Igbo market woman, originally from Imo state, who sold kitchen utensils in Kano.

On June 2, 2016, she was brutally attacked and killed at Kofar Wambai Market in Kano by a Muslim mob who accused her of blasphemy.

According to reports, she was pounced upon and murdered after she refused to allow a Muslim man perform ablution in front of her shop.

As expected, there was outrage and promises to bring the perpetrators to justice. The prime suspect in the murder, Dauda Ahmad was arrested, and so were four others: Abdullahi Mustapha, Zubairu Abubakar, Abdullahi Abubakar and Musa Abdullahi.

However, six weeks ago they were all set free by the court and as at the time of this report, no explanation has been given. No justice has been served.


2. Eunice Olawale Elisha

Eunice Olawale Elisha was a 42-year-old mother of seven, who loved to preach. What she loved was one of the factors that led to her death on July 9, 2016.

The Ekiti state born indigene has lived in the Kubwa area of Abuja, with her family for many years before she lost her life in the early hours of July 9.

She was well known as a Pentecostal preacher. Reports have it that she was stabbed to death by suspected Muslim extremists.

Shortly after the body was discovered, on a Saturday, the police said they had arrested some suspects and had commenced investigation on the matter.

Yet up till now, about five months later, no suspects have been brought to justice.

3. Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel

Mr Methodus' death was reported by the Nigerian army as follows:

"At about 6pm yesterday, May 29, 2016, one Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel, a 24-year-old trader based in Pandogari, Rafi LGA of Niger state was attacked and killed by a mob in the town on allegation of posting a blasphemous statement about Prophet Muhammad on the social media."

The alleged Facebook post is yet to be presented, but it was said that he insulted the Prophet Muhammad in the post.

The Nigerian army quelled the resulting riot, there have been no reports of the prosecution of his killers.

4. 8 Christians killed in September 2016

Women weeping following a killing
Women weeping following a killing
On Sunday, September 18, eight Christians were killed as they left church according to the Catholic Herald in the UK.

During the same time, Islamic extremists, suspected to be Boko Haram killed more than 40 troops from a multi-national force in an attack on a convoy in north-east Nigeria.

Read more:

https://www.naij.com/1078328-2016inreview-6-religious-killings-happened-2016.html

What is the muslims' definition of peace?

You see, I keep telling people that the actions of some Muslims is not the basis of Islam . Rather, the basis of Islam is the Qur'an and Authentic hadith. Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

Also, if violence was the norm, why aren't all Muslims doing it. There are over 1500 million to 2000 million Muslims, yet it is only a few radical groups that perpetuate evil. Do not be hasty in conclusion.
There are many violent Christian groups out there, who quote verse of the bible to support their actions, yet, I don't generalize.

Also, you only showed Christians that were killed. I'm pretty sure it's no news that many Muslims were killed also. E.g, the suicide bombing in a mosque, on a Friday, in Maiduguri, and in other places. So, let's not operate on double standards.

Sometimes it's funny, because when you look at it, you have the same view with these terrorists (that Islam promotes Islam promotes violence). I'm pretty sure that if Shekau was here, he'll agree with you completely.

Salaam.

Haroun13:


You see, I keep telling people that the actions of some Muslims is not the basis of Islam . Rather, the basis of Islam is the Qur'an and Authentic hadith. Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

Also, if violence was the norm, why aren't all Muslims doing it. There are over 1500 million to 2000 million Muslims, yet it is only a few radical groups that perpetuate evil. Do not be hasty in conclusion.
There are many violent Christian groups out there, who quote verse of the bible to support their actions, yet, I don't generalize.

Also, you only showed Christians that were killed. I'm pretty sure it's no news that many Muslims were killed also. E.g, the suicide bombing in a mosque, on a Friday, in Maiduguri, and in other places. So, let's not operate on double standards.

Sometimes it's funny, because when you look at it, you have the same view with these terrorists (that Islam promotes Islam promotes violence). I'm pretty sure that if Shekau was here, he'll agree with you completely.

Salaam.

The few percentage of muslims, the Arabs are the true Muslims in the real sense of the Quran. None Arabs who do not follow the injunctions of Allah should quit the religion immediately to prevent wasting their lives.

These are what the true Muslims (mostly the Arabs) follow and you are not in the position to accuse them of misinterpretation. They know islam better than you:

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill in his cause.

Those quranic verses of violence is the reason the Arabs, including Muhammad's own relatives, the Saudi Arabians are violent. You can't claim to know better than the people who introduced the religion to you.

Who is Allah who reintroduced violence after Jesus had ended it?

What is the need for islam that brought violence after peace had reigned for about 650 years before Muhammad came?

Food for thought !!!

Haroun13:


You see, I keep telling people that the actions of some Muslims is not the basis of Islam . Rather, the basis of Islam is the Qur'an and Authentic hadith. Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

Also, if violence was the norm, why aren't all Muslims doing it. There are over 1500 million to 2000 million Muslims, yet it is only a few radical groups that perpetuate evil. Do not be hasty in conclusion.
There are many violent Christian groups out there, who quote verse of the bible to support their actions, yet, I don't generalize.

But remember that the events in the North were not perpetrated by any group eg the blasphemous Cartoon, the Sharia riots etc Remember also that these people see themselves as better muslims than those in the south (I stand to be corrected).

Kindly list those that use the Bible for violence and mention the portions in the Bible that encourages, not by application but directly, violence.

Also, you only showed Christians that were killed. I'm pretty sure it's no news that many Muslims were killed also. E.g, the suicide bombing in a mosque, on a Friday, in Maiduguri, and in other places. So, let's not operate on double standards.

Sometimes it's funny, because when you look at it, you have the same view with these terrorists (that Islam promotes Islam promotes violence). I'm pretty sure that if Shekau was here, he'll agree with you completely.

Salaam.

sir, be honest in replying:

1. A christian stands in the market place in the core north and preaches denouncing any prophet that contradicts Jesus, what will be his fate?

2. A muslim stands in the market in the south and blasphemes Jesus, what will be his fate?

The actions that were taken in the past by normal adherents only tell you that the few you are referring to today as renegades are only doing what the normal ones would also do with a little motivation/provocation.

No. Genesis16:12

truthmans2012:
In 2016, Nigerians have seen many killed because of their religious convictions. These deaths have been deeply saddening as the bereaved have continued to cry out for justice.

As the year ends, Naij.com is compiling a list of some of the religious killings that shook the country to its core, so that we might reflect on them and prevent such happenings in the new year.
1. Bridget Agbahime

Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Late Mrs Bridget Agbahime
Bridget Agbahime was a 74 year old Igbo market woman, originally from Imo state, who sold kitchen utensils in Kano.

On June 2, 2016, she was brutally attacked and killed at Kofar Wambai Market in Kano by a Muslim mob who accused her of blasphemy.

According to reports, she was pounced upon and murdered after she refused to allow a Muslim man perform ablution in front of her shop.

As expected, there was outrage and promises to bring the perpetrators to justice. The prime suspect in the murder, Dauda Ahmad was arrested, and so were four others: Abdullahi Mustapha, Zubairu Abubakar, Abdullahi Abubakar and Musa Abdullahi.

However, six weeks ago they were all set free by the court and as at the time of this report, no explanation has been given. No justice has been served.


2. Eunice Olawale Elisha

Eunice Olawale Elisha was a 42-year-old mother of seven, who loved to preach. What she loved was one of the factors that led to her death on July 9, 2016.

The Ekiti state born indigene has lived in the Kubwa area of Abuja, with her family for many years before she lost her life in the early hours of July 9.

She was well known as a Pentecostal preacher. Reports have it that she was stabbed to death by suspected Muslim extremists.

Shortly after the body was discovered, on a Saturday, the police said they had arrested some suspects and had commenced investigation on the matter.

Yet up till now, about five months later, no suspects have been brought to justice.

3. Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel

Mr Methodus' death was reported by the Nigerian army as follows:

"At about 6pm yesterday, May 29, 2016, one Mr Methodus Chimaije Emmanuel, a 24-year-old trader based in Pandogari, Rafi LGA of Niger state was attacked and killed by a mob in the town on allegation of posting a blasphemous statement about Prophet Muhammad on the social media."

The alleged Facebook post is yet to be presented, but it was said that he insulted the Prophet Muhammad in the post.

The Nigerian army quelled the resulting riot, there have been no reports of the prosecution of his killers.

4. 8 Christians killed in September 2016

Women weeping following a killing
Women weeping following a killing
On Sunday, September 18, eight Christians were killed as they left church according to the Catholic Herald in the UK.

During the same time, Islamic extremists, suspected to be Boko Haram killed more than 40 troops from a multi-national force in an attack on a convoy in north-east Nigeria.

Read more:

https://www.naij.com/1078328-2016inreview-6-religious-killings-happened-2016.html

What is the muslims' definition of peace?

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Truthmans2012 I strongly object to you contacting this person via phone, anything he needs to tell you he should please state it here. At best let him communicate with you vvia a remote email. I don't trust these islamists, they can get up to many tricks in their blood lust to weed out those who are exposing the evil secrets of Islam.

Scholar8200:
But remember that the events in the North not perpetrated by any group eg the blasphemous Cartoon, the Sharia riots etc Remember also that these people see themselves as better muslims than those in the south (I stand to be corrected).

Again, this is not the basis of Islam. That they see themselves as better Muslims or not is not the issue. The question is "how does Allah see you?" If I killed someone because he made some "blasphemous" statements, that would be very stupid and ludicrous because I have not even presented Islam to that person, nor offered the person a fair shot at salvation, and I have gone against the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur'an.

Kindly list those that use the Bible for violence and mention the portions in the Bible that encourages, not by application but directly, violence.

Take a look at this.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

sir, be honest in replying:

Why not, that's why I'm a Muslim.

1. A christian stands in the market place in the core north and preaches denouncing any prophet that contradicts Jesus, what will be his fate?

I don't see why any Muslim should be bothered by someone doing the above, because Muhammad (pbuh) never contradicted Jesus (pbuh), but made it possible for us (Muslims) to believe in him , hence no Muslim should be bothered by this.
But, I understand what you are trying to say.
You only look at it from one side. Let's take Zamfara state for example. It operates on Shari'a, how many cases of violence have been reported from there? As good as non.

2. A muslim stands in the market in the south and blasphemes Jesus, what will be his fate?

Again, any one who "blasphemes" against Jesus (pbuh) cannot be called a Muslim, because belief in Jesus (pbuh) is a core matter of faith in Islam.
Yet again, I understand what you are trying to say.
But like I said before, Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

The actions that were taken in the past by normal adherents only tell you that the few you are referring to today as renegades are only doing what the normal ones would also do with a little motivation/provocation.

This assumption is wrong. Take me for example. I have a friend, David, he says what you refer to as "blasphemous statements" regularly. He says, and I quote; "Islam is deceit, Islam is the problem of the world, Islam is stupid, the Qur'an is rubbish, etc". Yet, in as much as I don't like it, I do not as much as abuse him with words, talk less of a physical attack. Rather, I admonish and advise him, you know why, because I follow the example of Muhammad (pbuh); I know that unjust killing will only land me in hell, I know that i I'm supposed to present Islam in the best of words and manners, I consider him as a potential Muslim, like Muhammad saw the people of Ta'if, who stoned him, and caused him to bleed all over, yet, he refused the Angels from crushing them beneath the mountains, because he saw them as potential Muslims.

annunaki2:


Truthmans2012 I strongly object to you contacting this person via phone, anything he needs to tell you he should please state it here. At best let him communicate with you vvia a remote email. I don't trust these islamists, they can get up to many tricks in their blood lust to weed out those who are exposing the evil secrets of Islam.

Thanks bro.

Haroun13:

Again, this is not the basis of Islam. That they see themselves as better Muslims or not is not the issue. The question is "how does Allah see you?" If I killed someone because he made some "blasphemous" statements, that would be very stupid and ludicrous because I have not even presented Islam to that person, nor offered the person a fair shot at salvation, and I have gone against the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur'an.


Take a look at this.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/



Why not, that's why I'm a Muslim.


I don't see why any Muslim should be bothered by someone doing the above, because Muhammad (pbuh) never contradicted Jesus (pbuh), but made it possible for us (Muslims) to believe in him , hence no Muslim should be bothered by this.
But, I understand what you are trying to say.
You only look at it from one side. Let's take Zamfara state for example. It operates on Shari'a, how many cases of violence have been reported from there? As good as non.


Again, any one who "blasphemes" against Jesus (pbuh) cannot be called a Muslim, because belief in Jesus (pbuh) is a core matter of faith in Islam.
Yet again, I understand what you are trying to say.
But like I said before, Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.


This assumption is wrong. Take me for example. I have a friend, David, he says what you refer to as "blasphemous statements" regularly. He says, and I quote; "Islam is deceit, Islam is the problem of the world, Islam is stupid, the Qur'an is rubbish, etc". Yet, in as much as I don't like it, I do not as much as abuse him with words, talk less of a physical attack. Rather, I admonish and advise him, you know why, because I follow the example of Muhammad (pbuh); I know that unjust killing will only land me in hell, I know that i I'm supposed to present Islam in the best of words and manners, I consider him as a potential Muslim, like Muhammad saw the people of Ta'if, who stoned him, and caused him to bleed all over, yet, he refused the Angels from crushing them beneath the mountains, because he saw them as potential Muslims.

You obviously have no knowledge of real Islam and you are not a true Muslim. Except if you are just being a typical aal taquiya Muslim.

Haroun13:

Again, this is not the basis of Islam. That they see themselves as better Muslims or not is not the issue. The question is "how does Allah see you?" If I killed someone because he made some "blasphemous" statements, that would be very stupid and ludicrous because I have not even presented Islam to that person, nor offered the person a fair shot at salvation, and I have gone against the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur'an.


Take a look at this.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/



Why not, that's why I'm a Muslim.


I don't see why any Muslim should be bothered by someone doing the above, because Muhammad (pbuh) never contradicted Jesus (pbuh), but made it possible for us (Muslims) to believe in him , hence no Muslim should be bothered by this.
But, I understand what you are trying to say.
You only look at it from one side. Let's take Zamfara state for example. It operates on Shari'a, how many cases of violence have been reported from there? As good as non.


Again, any one who "blasphemes" against Jesus (pbuh) cannot be called a Muslim, because belief in Jesus (pbuh) is a core matter of faith in Islam.
Yet again, I understand what you are trying to say.
But like I said before, Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.


This assumption is wrong. Take me for example. I have a friend, David, he says what you refer to as "blasphemous statements" regularly. He says, and I quote; "Islam is deceit, Islam is the problem of the world, Islam is stupid, the Qur'an is rubbish, etc". Yet, in as much as I don't like it, I do not as much as abuse him with words, talk less of a physical attack. Rather, I admonish and advise him, you know why, because I follow the example of Muhammad (pbuh); I know that unjust killing will only land me in hell,
I know that i I'm supposed to present Islam in the best of words and manners, I consider him as a potential Muslim, like Muhammad saw the people of Ta'if, who stoned him, and caused him to bleed all over, yet, he refused the Angels from crushing them beneath the mountains, because he saw them as potential Muslims.

What is your definition of just and unjust killings?

What is the interpretation of this?

Bukhari (2:24) - "Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property ]from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Haroun13:

Again, this is not the basis of Islam. That they see themselves as better Muslims or not is not the issue. The question is "how does Allah see you?" If I killed someone because he made some "blasphemous" statements, that would be very stupid and ludicrous because I have not even presented Islam to that person, nor offered the person a fair shot at salvation, and I have gone against the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur'an.

What are the full quotes in the Quran on what should be done to a blasphemer?

Take a look at this.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

Not one claims inspiration from a Bible verse. One even awaits a chinese woman to return as Jesus, where is the faintest allusion to this in the Bible? some kill abortionists on what authority?

Even the OT Israel killed others and Israel was killed by others, the Judge of the Earth decided who was deserving of judgement sans favouritism. However, when one group becomes the perpetual, faultless executioners, error has come. Today, we are followers of Christ hence the name Christians. There is NO vapour of evidence in the Life of Jesus or the NT that anyone can claim as motivation to do those things.

Why not, that's why I'm a Muslim.

Alright.

I don't see why any Muslim should be bothered by someone doing the above, because Muhammad (pbuh) never contradicted Jesus (pbuh), but made it possible for us (Muslims) to believe in him , hence no Muslim should be bothered by this.
But, I understand what you are trying to say.
You only look at it from one side. Let's take Zamfara state for example. It operates on Shari'a, how many cases of violence have been reported from there? As good as non.

Pls Muhammad directly contradicted Jesus. However,since there is a new thread on that stating a few instances, let's not divert this one.

Again, any one who "blasphemes" against Jesus (pbuh) cannot be called a Muslim, because belief in Jesus (pbuh) is a core matter of faith in Islam.

It is blasphemy to say Jesus is a prophet and nothing more. In fact, it is a blasphemy of the deepest dye!

Yet again, I understand what you are trying to say.
But like I said before, Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

Noted.

This assumption is wrong. Take me for example. I have a friend, David, he says what you refer to as "blasphemous statements" regularly. He says, and I quote; "Islam is deceit, Islam is the problem of the world, Islam is stupid, the Qur'an is rubbish, etc". Yet, in as much as I don't like it, I do not as much as abuse him with words, talk less of a physical attack. Rather, I admonish and advise him, you know why, because I follow the example of Muhammad (pbuh); I know that unjust killing will only land me in hell, I know that i I'm supposed to present Islam in the best of words and manners, I consider him as a potential Muslim, like Muhammad saw the people of Ta'if, who stoned him, and caused him to bleed all over, yet, he refused the Angels from crushing them beneath the mountains, because he saw them as potential Muslims.

Now would you say the many violent attacks( not terrorist attacks now)against other faiths in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Northern Nigeria etc means those people are all wrong? Why is it generally that other faiths are not as safe in Islamic countries as Muslims are in other countries?(correct me, with facts, if I am wrong) In fact, in some places, in Nigeria, if you are a christian your service should neither be seen nor heard!(discovered this during nysc in the core North).

And as a muslim, are you called to obey the Quran or follow Muhammad's example? If your answer to the latter is yes, which are you to follow and which are you not to follow and on what universal (at least majority) measure should be used to decide this?

annunaki2:


Truthmans2012 I strongly object to you contacting this person via phone, anything he needs to tell you he should please state it here. At best let him communicate with you vvia a remote email. I don't trust these islamists, they can get up to many tricks in their blood lust to weed out those who are exposing the evil secrets of Islam.

Do you know if I wan to become a Christian and I need one on one talk with him. I live in d north where conversation is not as easy as it over there in the west. I just need encouragement not more , if you are born in the west where you enjoy freedom of religion you won't kno how its to be in place like north. Anyway thanks.

truthmans2012:


What is your definition of just and unjust killings?

Just, is in a case of defense. Fighting against the other party, in a case of war (it is a sin to start a war, but if one is started against you, there is no prohibition on you if you fight back). Also, in the case of murder, the murderer can be put to death, adultery, and any I failed to mention. But basically, anything outside this is prohibited and unjust.

What is the interpretation of this?

Bukhari (2:24) - "Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property ]from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Note; you don't just pick a hadith out of it's context. This command was given in a time of war, and was referring to the Pagans, who were at war with the Muslims.

Salaam.

annunaki2:


You obviously have no knowledge of real Islam and you are not a true Muslim.

Wow! Clap for yourself.
A true Muslim is one who follows the Qur'an and Authentic hadith, which you, as well as radical groups, misquote and twist to satisfy your unfounded claims. See how you think alike?

Except if you are just being a typical aal taquiya Muslim.

Wow! Again, clap for yourself. When you are presented with the truth, you claim "Al taqiyya", which has no basis in Islam. Shia Muslims may practice it, but it is nowhere in the Qur'an and hadith. Why don't you provide evidence of you claim of "Al taqiyya".
Also, I'm pretty sure you don't know that your revered Paul practiced Al taqiyya, he deceived people in order to bring them to Christianity. Check Corinthians 9:19-23.

Salaam
#ISLAMISPEACE