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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by sugardaddy1(m): 8:02am On Feb 17, 2012 |
Very interesting debate, let me just add a little comment here. The Edos are a distinct group that is appaled by the filthiness of the Yorubas and the insatiable greed for money of the igbos. When the chips are down, more effort will be required to make the Edos join the SE igbos than will be required to make them join the SW Yorubas to whom they have been more naturally inclined to for ages. But in my opinion, the Edos are better of in any Southern grouping that is without both the Yorubas and the igbos. 2 Likes |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 7:39pm On Mar 03, 2012 |
I am a bini and what I can say is that my parents and grand parents and great grand parents except one of them saw them selfs as a yoruba tribe. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by pazienza(m): 8:21pm On Mar 03, 2012 |
$ugardaddy: Lol @ igbo insatiable greed for money. Nevertheless,an interesting post. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Obalufon: 2:29pm On Mar 16, 2012 |
Leave Yoruba alone, All omo ka aro ojire know themselves .Omo odua.Ife is cradle of humanity,"iiife oye olori aye gbogbo."we celebrate creation of the world.Bini people have authentic historical linkage with Yorubas we are both omo odua. Even itsekiri lukumi of Niger delta .Igala too share great linguistic and cultural similarities with Yorubas Yoruba is the language spoken by a set of people in Western Africa. Its native name is ‘Ede Yoruba’, that is the Yoruba language. The language has its origins in the Yoruba people, who are believed to be descendants of Oduduwa, the son of a powerful God called Oludumare. They refer to themselves as ‘Omo Oduduwa’, which means Oduduwa’s children. The Yoruba people originated from the Western Nigeria. Places where the language is spoken are termed ‘Ile Yoruba’, the Yoruba land. The Yoruba lands span across the western region of Nigeria, from far south-western state of Lagos state to the mid-western Kwara state cutting across other states including Ekiti, Ogun, Oyo, Osun and Ondo. Yoruba land extend beyond the boundaries of Nigeria into nearby countries like the republic of Benin, Togo, and mid-eastern Ghana.
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 5:21pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
Edo and Igbo are more related then Edo and Yoruba. However, the three were part and parcel of a Super Ancient group that was one before with Igala, Nupe etc. Even there were permutations that proto Igala-Igbo stretched to as far as Ghana. Why the name Igbomina, Oke-eri, Oka etc. All these people had a history no one talks about. More studies and research need to be carried out |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 5:37pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
Obalufon:I totally refuse and vehemently disagree, Ife is not the cradle of humanity. People were existing in Ife during the migration of the oduduwa group. Those people where the original owners of that land. They were present day Egba, which some historians will prefer to call a proto Egba-Igbo that inhabited the forests of West Africa from Ghana, cutting across Togo, Benin Republic, Nigeria and Cameroon. Now this brings us to the story of Oduduwa falling from sky and with snail, of course you know that it is a myth, a fairy tale and story to the gods. You know it is all lies, fallacies and didn't happen. When the first king of Benin kingdom came, he saw that the people were not organized, he organized them and started ruling over them. Who were those disorganized people? The same Stock of people that inhabited the forests of west Africa as illustrated |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 6:14pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
aljharem:Five - Edo (ise), Igbo (ise), Edo week days EKEN, ORIE, UKHUO or EKENAKA, AHO. Igbo week days EKE, ORIE, NKWO, AFO. God, Edo call Osenobua, Igbo say Oseburuwa, Edo say Orisha or Olisa or Oliha, Igbo say Olisa or Orisa. Edo has four market days, Igbo has four market days . Farm is Ugbo in Edo and Ugbo in Igbo. You asked for just one I've given you many. Who told you the ordinary Benin man had clothes? The only people that were clothed and beaded were only the royal family members and the nobles, same applied to Igboland. Stop making assumptions. For your information, Igboland was more developed just as Benin if not more than them when the whitemen ventured into this part of the world, that they termed Igbo as being very intelligent and innovative by what the white men evidenced when they came. To the extent that Oba of Benin employed the services of the the ancient Nkwerre gun makers to make guns for the empire. I know that history, that was how Nkwerre ventured into Benin, Orogodo and other places along the trail. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 6:37pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
PhysicsQED:Igbo, Edo, Igala, Yoruba, Nupe and other related groups that cover the forest parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo, Nigeria, Cameroon were once same group that diverged resulting in altering of languages and dialects. However, Edo, Igbo and Igala have a lot of structures and more intermingling with each other, they shared a lot together and influenced each other one way or the other. Benin had a powerful empire |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 6:52pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by mr1759: 5:04am On Aug 15, 2016 |
Edo will say- okhokho(chicken) igbo - okhukho Edo say- Dooo(greeting) igbo -ndooo |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 8:19am On Aug 15, 2016 |
PStylish:Well Mr, if Obasanjo is your standard for greatness then Yorubas are dwarfs. The greatest and only general Nigeria ever had was an Igbo man called General J. T. U. Aguiyi Ironsi. He was the first Nigerian, West African and African to be such and the first black man to head a UN mission. He was commissioned by the British/Queen on merit. That was when merit was merit, and not nepotism. All these people that parade themselves as generals know they are all mediocres and quacks. Now your great man Obasanjo committed not only corruption but also genocide in Odi, Chioba and Zaki Biam. All of them were boys to Ironsi and they all know he is superior to them 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 8:54am On Aug 15, 2016 |
NegroNtns:Shut up! Quack historian.. Mouthy Yoruba... For your information Two Igbo men have ruled Lagos, Rear Admiral Ndubuisi KANU and Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe. Don't distort history out of hatred. That's the way you idiots formulated your fairy tale story of origin. I mean are you Yorubas not ashamed of you guys? You like things that are not on merit. Lagos this Lagos that, without resources from the South South and Southeast, where would have the money that developed that Lagos come from? Monkey heads! 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by YungMillionaire: 7:36pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
SUNNYsparkle: ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 6:42pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
Rhino4dm:Is this not the height of stupidity ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 6:43pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
Rhino4dm:Is this not the height of stupidity ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 8:11pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
YungMillionaire:Let me clear my throat before talking to you so you hear me well. Now go to documented history, Benin is older than Ife, I hope I'm clear here. They spoke their language and unique culture which was older than ife. Please, how come Mr fluency, that Igbo and Edo, have four market days that sound alike. I'm talking about that market you are using as an illustration |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by SUNNYsparkle: 8:43pm On Aug 18, 2016 |
peckhamboi:The Oba of Benin speaks Bini language fluently... I'm not aware of any other language he should be speaking |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by laudate: 3:54am On Dec 27, 2016 |
Too many revisionists on this board... ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 5:54pm On Dec 27, 2016 |
Obiagu1:DO YOU NOT KNOW YORUBA RACE MIGRATED TO EDO ENVIRONMENT SOME CENTURIES AGO TO PART OF EDO STATE ?. GO AND VERIFY, EVEN THEIR CHIEFS WILL TELL YOU THEIR HISTORY . YORUBA CAN CALL EDO LINEAGE, A BROTHER, BECAUSE OF THE KINGLY LINEAGE CONNECTION. FURTHERMORE THEY DREW INSPIRATION FROM YORUBA IRON AGE DEVELOPMENT AROUND 14TH CENTURY. HISTORY HAS RECORD OF IT. YORUBAS HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH EDOS FOR CENTURIES AND THIS DIDN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE RECOGNISE THEIR SEPARATE IDENTITY FROM YORUBA RACE AND NEVER A TIME YORUBA FORCEFULLY LAY CLAIM TO EDO. UNLIKE YOU EBOES THAT WANT EVERY TRIBE TO BE CALLED EBOS JUST TO GRAB LAND AND HAVE ACESS TO THE SEE. BUT I TRUST YOU EBOES, YOU WILL NOT DARE SUCH IN YORUBA TERRITORY. I GUESS YOU HEARD WHAT DEJI AKURE TOLD YOUR EBOE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MISBEHAVE ONDO STATE AS A WHOLE . IT IS STILL FRESH AND SIZZLING. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ehikwe22: 9:02am On Dec 28, 2016 |
To me as an Anioma man, I think Bini has a lot of similarities with Igbos but many Nigerians are ignorant of this. I'm between both groups and it's easier to know which of my language and culture is Edo and which one is Igbo but sometimes I found out that some of the ones I thought to be Igbo are in Edo and some Edo are in Igbo. Many of them. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by lawani: 6:13am On Dec 29, 2016 |
IF YOU ARE TALKING OF LANGUAGE, I BELIEVE YORUBOID, EDOID AND IGBOID ARE EQUALLY RELATED. A GOOD PART OF YORUBA VOCAB RHYMES WITH IGBO IGBA- TIME AGBALA- COURTYARD GIRIPA- YOUNG MATURED MALE OKUTA- STONE OKA- MAIZE EWURE- GOAT AND ETC THERE IS A BOOK BY AN OAU PROF TREATING THE SUBJECT. THE THING ABOUT YORUBA LANGUAGE IS IT STRUCTURALLY IS KEMITIC EGYPTIAN AND BY OVER 50 PERCENT VOCAB, THE REST OF THE VOCAB IS AKOKOID, NUPOID, EDOID, IGBOID , FON, IJAW, BARIBA, HAUSA AND ETC. IS IT A NIGER CONGO LANGUAGE? WELL, EVEN SIERRA LEONEAN CREOLE MAY NOW BE CLASSIFIED A NIGER CONGO LANGUAGE!. THE YORUBA LANGUAGE WAS NOT SPOKEN IN WEST AFRICA FIVE THOUSAND YEARS AGO, THE PRESENT YORUBA WERE AKOKOID WHICH MAY INFACT COLLAPSE INTO EDOID, IGBOID AND ETC AS AT THEN. HOWEVER NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND EASILY ANY LANGUAGE SPOKEN 5000 YEARS AGO. THAT IS FOR LANGUAGE. CULTURALLY, YORUBAS ARE CLOSER TO RUSSIANS, JAPANESE, BRITISH OR CHINESE THAN PRE NIGERIA IGBOS!. BUT AROCHUKWU IGBOS ARE CLOSER TO YORUBAS THAN THEY ARE TO THEIR FELLOW IGBOS THAT THEY SHARE BOUNDARY WITH. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by laudate: 11:44pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
YungMillionaire: You forgot to add, that there are tons of full-blooded Edo people who bear Yoruba names, too!! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 10:04am On Dec 30, 2016 |
lawani:Are you sure youruba are closer to the after mentioned countries above? Even the assumed 50% recognised spoken words of Yoruba related to Kemitic language can traced to different dynastic rule that existed before in Egypt at different times in history. However, certain words are more Asiatic or Middle East language in Yoruba language. But explain the research done to testify to the Yoruba language relationship with the countries you mentioned accordingly .I am curious. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ladiguy(m): 2:04pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
SUNNYsparkle: You be fool. 2 Likes |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ladiguy(m): 2:10pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
Olu317: Yoruba didnt migrate to Edo .Go read history dude. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 3:30pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
ladiguy:go to part of Akoko Edo, you will see for yourself. I am not interested in dealing with someone who doesn't have fact but based opinion on sentiments. Facts are facts. People naturally refer to ILE IFE as their ancestral home. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 3:37pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
SUNNYsparkle:EDO PEOPLE ARE FUNNY. WHERE ON EARTH DID YOU READ YOUR OWN HISTORY THAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED EDO CULTURE OLDER THAN ILE IFE? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 3:52pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
SUNNYsparkle:DONT MISINFORM IF YOU DON'T KNOW. THEN ASK QUESTIONS. ERI IN YORUBA MEANS, WITNESS WHILE OKE IS MOUNTAIN TOP OR MOUNTAIN. YOU DID MENTION SOME YORUBA LAND WHICH YOU CLAIM NEED TO BE STUDIED. HOWEVER, MANY OF YOU FAILED BECAUSE OF YOUR PROPAGANDA. YORUBA HAVE BEEN USING THE WORD, “IGBO", BEFORE THE KNOWN EXISTENCE OF EBOES. AND IT WAS EBOES THAT CHANGED THEIR NAMES TO “IGBO". YOURUBA HAVE many country homes attached to “igbo" term. Don't change our history. Thanks. Proudly Yoruba. 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ladiguy(m): 4:07pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
Olu317: Relax that part of Akoko edo you mentioned is the same with the Akoko's in Ondo and the Akoko's are Yopruba sub goup. Were you out of the country or new to reading articles on online or you dont read books or listen to discussion either on television or online forum. The issue about Yoruba and the Edo's are well discussed and explained. Seee dude i no fit go talk much .You just need to learn your history and be versed before youn drop online . It seems you be teenager and you just bought a phone to surf the net ? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Olu317(m): 8:46pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
ladiguy:I am not on in dealing with you since you chose not to have respect. I don't need to explain to you the difference between Akoko Edo and the Akoko ondo. But here is the bombshell,does it mean that people that lay claim to Edo state, are all Binis or Afemai? ? You don't deserve to be informed because your negative terms which has no basis in the first place. It is obvious I don't belong to your contemporary. Go study to be well informed. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ladiguy(m): 8:48pm On Dec 30, 2016 |
Olu317: Go back to your state and let them teach you what you dont know . |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by cheruv: 11:17am On Jan 01, 2017 |
lawani:Aros migrated from Nri/Nshi/Nhi as businessmen before arriving at and conquering Arochukwu in 1700. The only non Igbo group they have relationship with are the Ibibio, who they conquered Arochukwu from during the Aro-Ibibio wars. Like I told your brother omofunav in another thread, stop claiming relationship where there's none. As for the topic at hand, Idu has no relationship with Igbos... Yes they conquered Anioma in the 1570s but were defeated and expelled from Anioma during the great Ubulu war of 1755. And since after that war, Idu has focused their conquests westwards. The people you see claiming Bini influence in Igboland are descendants of the Bini soldiers that were allowed to settle after their army was defeated in the ubulu war...that's the same thing you see among some Northern Igbos that claim igala. After their troops were crushed in the battle of lake omelu-Igala in the 1800s, the scattered remains of their army settled among the northern population, give rise to the current igala in Anambra and Enugwu states |
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