sukkot:
GOD does take over peoples spirit and passes messages through them. unless of course it is GOD you are referring to when you say JINN

bqlekan:
all demons are jinns, but not all jinns are demons. Like I stated earlier, there are good and bad jinns. Okay here is an explanation.

Take the earth as a whole, replace every humans with jinns,. You will end up with different races of jinns with different believes and religions. The jinn world is just like us. They interact with some humans among us.

sukkot:
NAH LOL not on an intellectual thread like this I dont troll. I only troll on useless retarded frontpage posts about celebrities and other useless mind-numbing topics.

bqlekan:


Humans have been using jinns since time immemorial. I will urge you to do a research on jinns.

bqlekan:


Lol, the world is full of mysteries. Jinns are extremely powerful beings they are the ones responsible for many weird occurrences through out history, from akudaya, to unexplained levitation, maybe UFOs and also the building of the great pyramids.

iykekelvins:
Ok, thanks.

But how do these Jinns find humans? How's it possible to work with them?

sukkot:
[b]all powers belong to GOD. what you call jinns is GOD using people and giving them extra-ordinary abilities to carry out the tasks. humans do not have the ability of commanding ' jinns ', what they have is the illusion that they are in control when they are summoning the jinns but they dont realize that they are being mind controlled at that point in time and their actions do not belong to them and they are simply being used. so point being there has to be a perception that you are in control when in reality you are not. this makes the process more organic, as opposed to just putting you in a trance like zombie state and sending you out to carry out a mission they induce you with the reality that you are the one summoning up the jinn but you are in a trance and are being programmed but the process feels more organic as opposed to just being spiritually knocked over the head and sent into a coma and then ordered to carry out a mission. its that sense of being a part of the process so as to make it organic. this is why some people start feeling powerful and puffed up and then the power is snatched from them. because you cant boast from doing something when you are simply a tool. how can the tool boast itself against the master who controls it ? hope am making sense [/b]

iykekelvins:
Wow, now that's amazing talent.

There are some humans that can literally be called Super Humans.

bqlekan:


Permit me to use some verses from the Quran

And the jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a Scorching wind. Surah XV: 27

"And entice whoever you can of them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and men against them, and you may share with them in their money and children, and promise them.” But the devil promises nothing but deceit. 'As for My servants, you will have no power over them.' And your Lord suffices as a Caretaker." (17:64-65)

"And for Solomon the wind was given, traveling one month coming and one month going, and We caused a spring of tar to flow for him. And from among the Jinn are those that worked for him by his Lord's leave; and any one of them who turns from Our commands, We shall cause him to taste the retribution of the Fire. They made for him what he desired of enclosures, and statues, and pools of deep reservoirs, and heavy pots. “O family of David, work to show thanks.” Only a few of My servants are appreciative. Then, when We decreed death for him, nothing informed them of his death until a worm kept eating from his staff, so when he fell down, the Jinn realised that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in the humiliating retribution." (34:12-14)


The Bottomline is humans use the bad jinns for our selfish interest, but not after pledging to give the jinns something in return.

buffalowings:

They are called autistic savants

Read about them some years bacj

sukkot:
Oh ok this Jinn is from the Quran ? and I am looking at what you have quoted and I can see you are taking it literally. see the bible and quran are allegoric and symbolic and esoteric books. they are not meant to be taken literally. now just from that verse that you quoted what it is saying is that a new group of people have been created from the furnace of affliction. thats what the quran and bible is all about. you accumulate sins and then you pay for your sins in the furnace of affliction and then come out a strong new being. those who overcome this affliction and come out as better people is what this jinn is referring to in the quran. its like nelson mandela, he did 27 years in prison under affliction and then he came out a stronger better man and became the president of south africa and was well respected and loved. now he is an example of what a jinn is. point being do not read the quran literally

bqlekan:


Hahahah, brother, you are getting it all wrong. Let me start by asking you; what do you understand by the world 'jinns'?

sukkot:
hmmm good questions. now when we look at the etymology of that word we start to see that we have been bamboozled and programmed to think it is what it is not. there are two spheres, the celestial and then the terrestrial. the celestial is someone that can perceive things beyond this 3 dimensional existence we exist in while the terrestrial is someone whose perceptions and reality is stuck in this 3D existence. now to be extra-terrestrial means you are the lowest of beings and not an advanced being. so the etymology and indoctrination has gotten people bamboozled as to what an extra-terrestrial is. extra-terrestrials are humans. we are low level beings. we are the extra-terrestrials.

where did you get your perception of what an extra-terrestrial is ? from hollywood movies ? see we have all been programmed and we are operating on someone elses perception of things.

point being humans are the extra-terrestrials

sukkot:
from reading that Quran verse Jinn is someone who has been perfected by suffering and affliction.

ValentineMary:


ex- tra- ter- res- tri- al

[ek-str uh -t uh - res -tree- uh l]
adjective
outside, or originating outside, the limits of the
earth.
Source : www.dictionary.com/browse/extraterrestrial

Definition of EXTRATERRESTRIAL
See extraterrestrial defined for English-language
learners
See extraterrestrial defined for kids
:
originating, existing, or occurring outside the
earth or its atmosphere < extraterrestrial life>
Source : https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extraterrestrial

bqlekan:


There are 3 creations, the angels, the humans and the jinns.. Angels were created from light, humans from clay and jinns from flameless fire. The jinns are of different types, we have marid, ifreet, ghoul etc. All these are entities created long before the creation of human. Quran didn't just mention their existence, a whole chapter is dedicated to them.

They are by no means a re-incarnated form of human, they are sentient and different from us.

bqlekan:


There are 3 creations, the angels, the humans and the jinns.. Angels were created from light, humans from clay and jinns from flameless fire. The jinns are of different types, we have marid, ifreet, ghoul etc. All these are entities created long before the creation of human. Quran didn't just mention their existence, a whole chapter is dedicated to them.

They are by no means a re-incarnated form of human, they are sentient and different from us.

bqlekan:


There are 3 creations, the angels, the humans and the jinns.. Angels were created from light, humans from clay and jinns from flameless fire. The jinns are of different types, we have marid, ifreet, ghoul etc. All these are entities created long before the creation of human. Quran didn't just mention their existence, a whole chapter is dedicated to them.

They are by no means a re-incarnated form of human, they are sentient and different from us.

sukkot:
Extraterrestrial life,[n 1] also called alien life (or, if it is a sentient or relatively complex individual, an "extraterrestrial" or "alien", is life that does not originate from Earth. <<<< that defines humans. we do not originate from earth. our souls and spirits do not originate from this sphere. it is our bodies that confines us to this 3 dimensional sphere but our essence is from other galaxies. when you go to bed at night your spirit returns to the galaxy it comes from and it is when that spirit re-enters your body that you wake up because the spirit energizes your body. if the spirit is in your body you cant sleep because it is energy. it has to leave your body before you fall asleep. and if it refuses to return to your body you will never wake up which is why you see many people who die in their sleep

ValentineMary:

Oh! U are a Christian. Well u have the right to believe what u want. But just leave it out of the science classroom ~Neil DeGrasses Tyson.
How can u prove that we were made outside the earth when the materials that make up our biomolecules are right here on earth?

sukkot:
AHHHH SEE I JUST CHECKED THE MEANING OF JINN IN DICTIONARY AND IT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU, ITS ISLAMIC MYTHOLOGY LOLZZZZZZ


Examples Word Origin
noun, plural jinns (especially collectively) jinn. Islamic Mythology .
1.
any of a class of spirits, lower than the angels, capable of appearing in human and animal forms and influencing humankind for either good or evil.

bqlekan:


This is why I created this thread. Jinns are way beyond mythology. We have seen their effects in our universe. For instance, gravitational waves appear weak in our universe due to distortion of the spacetime fabric from a parallel universe. Invisible dark matter deflecting photons of light. These only point out to different lifeform having mass of their own. The jinns..

bqlekan:


This is why I created this thread. Jinns are way beyond mythology. We have seen their effects in our universe. For instance, gravitational waves appear weak in our universe due to distortion of the spacetime fabric from a parallel universe. Invisible dark matter deflecting photons of light. These only point out to different lifeform having mass of their own. The jinns..

sukkot:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emsud0rakqY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxmifh-Neo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuLU-oEpl3M

barackodam:
@bqlekan


I very much perfectly understand the angle you're coming from, and I'm sorry to say, Sukkot would never see from that angle.

You're a Muslim, he's a Christian, you're trying to prove science using Islam or Islam using science, but Sukkot is seeing it from science proving science, that's why you won't.

And if I go with what he says, not mixing science with religion, I think he's been right all through!


Quran extensively talked about Al-Jinn, but the Bible didn't and I think, (I stand to be corrected) only Islam has told everything about jinn.

But look at it, scientifically of course, you'll be inclined towards Sukkot's

barackodam:
@bqlekan


I very much perfectly understand the angle you're coming from, and I'm sorry to say, Sukkot would never see from that angle.

You're a Muslim, he's a Christian, you're trying to prove science using Islam or Islam using science, but Sukkot is seeing it from science proving science, that's why you won't.

And if I go with what he says, not mixing science with religion, I think he's been right all through!


Quran extensively talked about Al-Jinn, but the Bible didn't and I think, (I stand to be corrected) only Islam has told everything about jinn.

But look at it, scientifically of course, you'll be inclined towards Sukkot's

bqlekan:


Thanks brother, if you check my original post, you will notice I used scientific hypothesis to explain the concept of the jinns. The Quran might be the only religious book to discuss jinns, but jinns are also found in different mythologies and folklores.

The bible talked extensively about demons I think. Demons, efreet, Marid, rowaniyas, ghoul etc are names given to jinns based on their actions, locations, shapes and sizes.

Sukkot is not just proving science with science, we are both guilty of proving science with pseudoscience. He did go one more step forward by adding conspiracy theories
Skim through my posts again and you will understand where I'm coming from.

sukkot:
speak for yasef bro. dont loop me in with ya craziness

sukkot:
nah nigga this is science not christianity. we are made up off star dust. its well known. when meteors and star particles fall to earth it has been researched that this is what we are made off. so we are extra-terrestrials by your definition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Bh2E46yNU

bqlekan:


Permit me to use some verses from the Quran

And the jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a Scorching wind. Surah XV: 27

"And entice whoever you can of them with your voice, and mobilize all your forces and men against them, and you may share with them in their money and children, and promise them.” But the devil promises nothing but deceit. 'As for My servants, you will have no power over them.' And your Lord suffices as a Caretaker." (17:64-65)

"And for Solomon the wind was given, traveling one month coming and one month going, and We caused a spring of tar to flow for him. And from among the Jinn are those that worked for him by his Lord's leave; and any one of them who turns from Our commands, We shall cause him to taste the retribution of the Fire. They made for him what he desired of enclosures, and statues, and pools of deep reservoirs, and heavy pots. “O family of David, work to show thanks.” Only a few of My servants are appreciative.

Then, when We decreed death for him, nothing informed them of his death until a worm kept eating from his staff, so when he fell down, the Jinn realised that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in the humiliating retribution." (34:12-14)

The Bottomline is humans use the bad jinns for our selfish interest, but not after pledging to give the jinns something in return.