Pls who is Osibanjo Is that a name of a place or thing

9jakohai:
Good afternoon.

Now, before I comment, I would like to issue this disclaimer...

I do not approve of the violence being comitted by anyone, including Fulani Herdsmen. I approve of people settling their differences within the ambit of the laws governing this country. We have the police, the courts, traditional elders, etc....let's use them. It is better to jaw jaw than to fight fight.

Now...on to my main comment.

I cannot fathom why CAN would back a man who said that it is ok to kill members of a certain tribe if they enter his church or waylay him.

Has CAN become an organisation for the promotion of violence?

Has CAN forgotten what the bible says...that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal....

CAN should go back to the bible...and read about a man who once upon a time ran around attacking and dealing violently with Christians. He even wanted to head to another city to continue his violent anti-Christian activities....but he was waylaid by a Divine Being. And even then, it took the activities of Christians like Barnabas...to welcome him into the Church.

CAN and Pastor Suleiman are not doing the right thing. I am sorry, I know this does not make me popular...especially as many Christians have suffered in this country over the years. But to start responding to our 'persecutors' with our persecutor's weapons.....shows that we are not Christians. We are just another group of Gentiles.

And even then, the language used by the Apostle Suleiman is similar in nature to the language that certain extremists used in a certain country about another group of cattle rearers. We all know how that ended (Hint...800000 people died.).

But the sad thing is that the Apostle Suleiman brand of Christianity is popular in Nigeria. Many Nigerian christians have given up using the weapons of God, and have switched to the weapons of Satan. We now use the same carnal weapons favored by the Enemy....forgetting that the more we use them, the more we get manipulated into our Adversary's trap. And our Adversary has no face. Our Adversary is not represented by any religion, creed or tribe. Our Adversary is legion. And such an adversary can only be fought with the tools our Father has laid before us...the tools of prayer, and of doing what is right before the Lord.

It is high time CAN and Christians stopped using the language of violence and hate...and used the language that God has taught us to use. We Christians are the LIGHT of the world....not the fire that ignites bushfires that combine into a conflagration.

Nigerian Christians....awake.It is time we returned to the Lord....our strong Refuge...and turned away from refuges built by men.

I pray we do so.

Bros its because they haven't killed someone close to you. if they have entered into your village and wipe out your family, or have taken your pregnant daughter or sister or wife and ripped her stomach open bringing out the foetus and showing it to the sun and shouting Allahabak then slay the foetus and leaving the woman to die in pains or if oneday you ran home to see you parents been burnt to ashes in their home, sincerely you wont talk this way. And for people who reason like you do, i pray they all experience it themselves, then they will understand.

this is time to pray the david prayer "should I pursue after them?'

Apostle Suleman is not in any political office hence he can make any comments he feel like making, however the VP is a political office holder he can't just make any reckless statement like Suleman just did. Therefore CAN should leave VP alone let him be or what has CAN done since? Now they want to hide under the statement of Apostle Suleman Ish

jaz:
VP OSINBAJO IS A FRAUD AND DEFINITELY NOT A MAN OF GOD BUT ANOTHER POLITICIAN WITH SELFISH AMBITIONS

Jealous people " OSINBAJO IS A FRAUD AND DEFINITELY NOT A MAN OF GOD " and what of the people that gave birth to you?

Fingesi:


Bros its because they haven't killed someone close to you. if they have entered into your village and wipe out your family, or have taken your pregnant daughter or sister or wife and ripped her stomach open bringing out the foetus and showing it to the sun and shouting Allahabak then slay the foetus and leaving the woman to die in pains or if oneday you ran home to see you parents been burnt to ashes in their home, sincerely you wont talk this way. And for people who reason like you do, i pray they all experience it themselves, then they will understand.

this is time to pray the david prayer "should I pursue after them?'

Actually.....I have known people personally who suffered in that way.

And my response is simple...I follow Christ.

Quite a while ago, a group of missionaries were brutally murdered by some people they tried to preach to. Ten years later...the wives of the missionaries were working in the same area....and all five of the leading murderers were converted....and the tribe they were working amongst was said to be ''impenterable''

Many years ago...I visited a village in the Far North...that had a church. That village was known to be so Muslim...that they drove off several missionaries who had tried to go there. But...one man, who was not even a missionary...persevered...and today there is a thriving church in that village.

Let me be honest with you....I think that Christianity is a weak man's religion. All that turning the other cheek...is just nonsense. But behind the nonsense...is a truth....that becoming a Christian means that you acknowledge the Lordship of Jesus...and by extension his power, dominion and will. Even when it does not make sense.

Many Christians died in the persecutions of the Roman and other Empires...but it did not mean that the Light died out. Our God is our refuge and strength...and we have to believe it...even if it does not seem so.

Splashme:
But we warned them that Buhari is a jihadist

I guess he is just like you and the person who gave birth to you a Bigot and since you claim to be of the cross what are you a Crusader?exactly the point accusing others when you're just as bad even worse. Nigerians hypocrites to religion what christ called Pharisees.

well they are surely not as empty headed and moronic as you or your parents

sapele914:
Jealous people " OSINBAJO IS A FRAUD AND DEFINITELY NOT A MAN OF GOD " and what of the people that gave birth to you?

Ngokafor:




..Trust me when i say that being a muslim right now is equals to stvpidity especially when it has to do with buhari and apc.

Trust me when I say being a Christian right now is equal to stupidity Cos ur statement is absord...Why do u always want to shift any rift on Islam,u are always feeling gud wen u abuse or condem cos u are Christian!! How perfect are u? Are d Christian in southern kaduna,just folding there hands n arms while some herdmens are killing Dem? Are de not fighting back?If D way u guyz attack MUSLIMS wit ur mouth is how d MUSLIMS too bombard u,war go don start since ...If u hav a problem with buhari or APC abuse Dem d way like, nobody go challenge ur authority but d moment u disrespect my religion,I won't take DAT.

9jakohai:


Actually.....I have known people personally who suffered in that way.

And my response is simple...I follow Christ.

Quite a while ago, a group of missionaries were brutally murdered by some people they tried to preach to. Ten years later...the wives of the missionaries were working in the same area....and all five of the leading murderers were converted....and the tribe they were working amongst was said to be ''impenterable''

Many years ago...I visited a village in the Far North...that had a church. That village was known to be so Muslim...that they drove off several missionaries who had tried to go there. But...one man, who was not even a missionary...persevered...and today there is a thriving church in that village.

Let me be honest with you....I think that Christianity is a weak man's religion. All that turning the other cheek...is just nonsense. But behind the nonsense...is a truth....that becoming a Christian means that you acknowledge the Lordship of Jesus...and by extension his power, dominion and will. Even when it does not make sense.

Many Christians died in the persecutions of the Roman and other Empires...but it did not mean that the Light died out. Our God is our refuge and strength...and we have to believe it...even if it does not seem so.

We need a political and economical resolution to this problem, nothing to do with God or prayers we need concerted effort by man, the imagination of a divine resolution is the problem fueling the crisis we need to be pragmatic and create wealth for the people, it is poverty that breeds anger and resentment and the church thrives on the vulnerable who don't have a mind of theirs. Why are they not burning and killing in dubai? We need wealth creation not religion.

9jakohai:
Good afternoon.

Now, before I comment, I would like to issue this disclaimer...

I do not approve of the violence being comitted by anyone, including Fulani Herdsmen. I approve of people settling their differences within the ambit of the laws governing this country. We have the police, the courts, traditional elders, etc....let's use them. It is better to jaw jaw than to fight fight.

Now...on to my main comment.

I cannot fathom why CAN would back a man who said that it is ok to kill members of a certain tribe if they enter his church or waylay him.

Has CAN become an organisation for the promotion of violence?

Has CAN forgotten what the bible says...that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal....

CAN should go back to the bible...and read about a man who once upon a time ran around attacking and dealing violently with Christians. He even wanted to head to another city to continue his violent anti-Christian activities....but he was waylaid by a Divine Being. And even then, it took the activities of Christians like Barnabas...to welcome him into the Church.

CAN and Pastor Suleiman are not doing the right thing. I am sorry, I know this does not make me popular...especially as many Christians have suffered in this country over the years. But to start responding to our 'persecutors' with our persecutor's weapons.....shows that we are not Christians. We are just another group of Gentiles.

And even then, the language used by the Apostle Suleiman is similar in nature to the language that certain extremists used in a certain country about another group of cattle rearers. We all know how that ended (Hint...800000 people died.).

But the sad thing is that the Apostle Suleiman brand of Christianity is popular in Nigeria. Many Nigerian christians have given up using the weapons of God, and have switched to the weapons of Satan. We now use the same carnal weapons favored by the Enemy....forgetting that the more we use them, the more we get manipulated into our Adversary's trap. And our Adversary has no face. Our Adversary is not represented by any religion, creed or tribe. Our Adversary is legion. And such an adversary can only be fought with the tools our Father has laid before us...the tools of prayer, and of doing what is right before the Lord.

It is high time CAN and Christians stopped using the language of violence and hate...and used the language that God has taught us to use. We Christians are the LIGHT of the world....not the fire that ignites bushfires that combine into a conflagration.

Nigerian Christians....awake.It is time we returned to the Lord....our strong Refuge...and turned away from refuges built by men.

I pray w

What exactly are you saying or driving at? I s it that when some violent NON PEACE loving people come around asking for the heads of the Christians, the Christians should honourablely present their heads for the children of hate to slice all in the name of Peace. What exactly is your point, that Christians should not act to defend themselves when attacked in the absence of presence of government protection as at the point of attack?

KidsNEXTdoor:

Those nurudeens and komorus have sold their soul to their Fulani masters... Even if u conduct another election today... They will still vote for Buhari with an empty stomach

I met one recently .. He told me why things are hard is because there is no more free money... Buhari has stopped all the lope holes
I now asked him... What is Buhari using the money for and which project has he completed...
He said... Em em em.. Buhari is working in London

It shows they have washed their brains finish with hypo

PUSH1:
Why can't all these men be preaching peaceful coexistence among Nigerians!
Or is it not profitable?
Or Do they require money to preach about it to all Nigerians.

I am still in love with Anglican churches.
Was it not Jesus that said we should love our neighbors as ourselves. If they slap in the right cheek, turn the left.

I am an advocate of peaceful coexistence among Nigerians no matter their religious affiliations.

Bros, this turning the other cheek get as e be o. So how many times will you turn to be slapped before you won't take it anymore? 7 times 77 slaps? Come on.
Is there anywhere the Bible says that self defence is a sin?

akwunmi:

Trust me when I say being a Christian right now is equal to stupidity Cos ur statement is absord...Why do u always want to shift any rift on Islam,u are always feeling gud wen u abuse or condem cos u are Christian!! How perfect are u? Are d Christian in southern kaduna,just folding there hands n arms while some herdmens are killing Dem? Are de not fighting back?If D way u guyz attack MUSLIMS wit ur mouth is how d MUSLIMS too bombard u,war go don start since ...If u hav a problem with buhari or APC abuse Dem d way like, nobody go challenge ur authority but d moment u disrespect my religion,I won't take DAT.

Guy nice analysis and the problem in Southern Kaduna has nothing to do with religion it is all about ownership of the land, such a misguided race of people. Do we blame CAN and Oritsejafor after all the money they collected from Jonah? of course we know at any chance they get will try and paint President Buhari black,can any of them claim to be any better or more informed than osinbajo?it is an economical problem that needs a political and economical solution,keep religion out of it,critical thinkers solve problems lazy minds depend on religion.

PUSH1:
Why can't all these men be preaching peaceful coexistence among Nigerians!
Or is it not profitable?
Or Do they require money to preach about it to all Nigerians.

I am still in love with Anglican churches.
Was it not Jesus that said we should love our neighbors as ourselves. If they slap in the right cheek, turn the left.


I am an advocate of peaceful coexistence among Nigerians no matter their religious affiliations.

If they kill your sibling, bring another sibling of yours to be killed by the same people. Hope you understand the interpretation of what you just wrote up there? But a time comes when "the kingdom of God suffereth violence and only the violent taketh it by force". This time the first slap on the cheek is too heavy and painful to turn another cheek. If they slap you, you might not be alive to turn the other cheek

strenghtt:
What exactly are you saying or driving at? I s it that when some violent NON PEACE loving people come around asking for the heads of the Christians, the Christians should honourablely present their heads for the children of hate to slice. What exactly is your point, that Christians should not act to defend themselves when attacked in the ansence of presence of government protection as at the point of attack?

I am saying that we should not respond the way the world responds.

We have our instructions in the Bible.

lovat:
Your post is so small like the size of yoyr brain

As long as it is bigger than ur dick , no problem !

lovat:
Your post is so small like the size of yoyr brain

No dear ! My post is as small as the size of ur dick

9jakohai:


I am saying that we should not respond the way the world responds.

We have our instructions in the Bible.

Which says that we should lay down our heads honourably when called for by the children of violence ?

oblak00:

If they kill your sibling, bring another sibling of yours to be killed by the same people. Hope you understand the interpretation of what you just wrote up there? But a time comes when "the kingdom of God suffereth violence and only the violent taketh it by force". This time the first slap on the cheek is too heavy and painful to turn another cheek. If they slap you, you might not be alive to turn the other cheek

Don't be ignorant,Southern Kaduna is an economical war not religious, they are killing themselves over ownership of the land it is an ancestral problem, it has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. The chibok girls are allegedly Christians, some fellow christian governor from the south said no chibok girl was kidnapped? Religion is a poor man's tool which the church enjoys,we need an economical blue print, rapid wealth creation in Nigeria and a gradual transformation of Northern Nigeria to a mini qatar all these intolerance will stop immediately,religious business will slow down, poverty is the main cause an idle mind is the devils workshop. We need an eurka moment, innovation,practical awakening of the faculty not religion.

KidsNEXTdoor:
Osibande is an afonja
So don't expect him to be vocal in the presence of evil and persecution

so fayose ain't Afonja

CXLVII:
Is CAN really a religious association cos even NURTW behave more civilised than them..


Now I see reasons why Catholics pulled out of the association

If Christians were killing Muslim's would u say this? Reason it.

But the fulani herdmen are either Libyans, Senegalese or Malians. So why do FG, DSS and Northerners all have problems with killing these vermins?

sanandreas:


If Christians were killing Muslim's would u say this? Reason it.

You dey mind that ode.

Nigeria is in turmoil. Christians been killed like slaves. PMB's government has been bad news so far. It is quite disheartening. CAN is overly right, these days things are been done without considering what the constitution says.

bumi10:
Christian Association of Nigeria, CAN, has released a statement, applauding controversial clergyman and Senior Pastor of Omega Fire Ministries, Apostle Johnson Suleman, for being vocal in the face of the repeated killing of Christians by some herdsmen in some parts of the country.

In a statement signed by its special assistant on media and communication to the CAN President, Bayo Oladeji, the religious body kicked against last Wednesday's attempted arrest of Suleman in Ekiti state, arguing that his recent comments on the religious crisis in the country is permitted by the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. They argue that Suleman is entitled to Freedom of Speech.

CAN's Statement

"Apostle Suleman has become a refugee in Ekiti state as security operatives are said to be searching every nook and cranny of the state with a view to arresting him. If there is an urgent need to interrogate Apostle Suleman on any issue, it would only have been proper to extend a formal or informal invitation to him from the SSS rather than Gestapo approach used in the attempt to arrest him.

It should be noted that under Nigerian Laws, he is presumed innocent until a court of law proves otherwise. Or have they extended the proposed obnoxious law that forbids religious preaching without the permission of the state governor down south too? Treating Ministers of God and our members as common criminals is unacceptable to the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN). Enough is enough. The last time we checked, Sections 38-41 of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) states clearly that every Nigerian is “entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

The Constitution states unambiguously that ‘Every person shall be entitled to freedom of expression, including freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart ideas and information without interference’. Every person shall be entitled to assemble freely and associate with other persons, and in particular he may form or belong to any political party, trade union or any other association for the protection of his interests:

Every citizen of Nigeria is entitled to move freely throughout Nigeria and to reside in any part thereof, and no citizen of Nigeria shall be expelled from Nigeria or refused entry thereby or exit there".

The group called on Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, who is a Christian, to speak against the repeated attacks on Christians, stating that his silence on the matter is deafening

“It is high time the overzealous security agencies knew that Nigeria remains a secular state and any attempt to turn the country into a refugee camp for Christians will not be acceptable and will be resisted with every lawful means.

We call on the acting President, Professor Yemi Osinbajo, to intervene in all the clampdown on the Church in Nigeria after all, he is in the office primarily to represent the interest of the Christians and his studied silence is no longer golden"he said.


http://www.exlinklodge.com/2017/01/can-blast-vp-osinbajo-applauds-apostle.html

The most important thing is who God applauds
Osinbajo is second in command, he's a pastor and also a part of the government...there's something called WISDOM... When you're in that position you will understand...

If Suleiman was were osinbajo is now...he would have handled it differently...

God could have delivered his only son...he had the power...Jesus Christ had the power too but he didn't.... Why?...something had to give way for another to happen...

So you'll keep condemning him...may God help us all....

I think Nigeria should be broadcasted live on DSTV as a centre of attraction.... I want to know where this ends....... Naija i hail ooo ;DI think Nigeria should be broadcasted live on DSTV as a centre of attraction.... I want to know where this ends....... Naija i hail ooo

jaz:
well they are surely not as empty headed and moronic as you or your parents

At least you admitted not as empty but still empty initio,hypocritical ignorant Pharisee

akwunmi:

Trust me when I say being a Christian right now is equal to stupidity Cos ur statement is absord...Why do u always want to shift any rift on Islam,u are always feeling gud wen u abuse or condem cos u are Christian!! How perfect are u? Are d Christian in southern kaduna,just folding there hands n arms while some herdmens are killing Dem? Are de not fighting back?If D way u guyz attack MUSLIMS wit ur mouth is how d MUSLIMS too bombard u,war go don start since ...If u hav a problem with buhari or APC abuse Dem d way like, nobody go challenge ur authority but d moment u disrespect my religion,I won't take DAT.

.....Abeg keep quiet biko!!..blabla that makes no sense....If you like start war and see if you lots will not be dealt with...You can only issue this nonsense because you have Christian collaborators ignorantly supporting you lots because of politics but your cups will be full soon

...Most zombie supporters of apc tags anyone who criticizes buhari or apc 'ipod yoot,sore election losers or wailers'.These apc supporters are 80% muslims and thats a fact!!!...nothing apc or buhari does wrong is a problem instead you lots would rather blame the woes of this natiion now clearly caused by buhari on Jonathan!!

..In 1970,it was $1to #1...fastword to 2015,it was $1to #210...In other words,it took 45years for the Naira to depreciate by #200.

...Now apc /buhari ascends the throne and just under two years it bcame $1 to #500..Meaning it took just a year and some months for the Naira to depreciate by more than #250!!..I can go on and on,but i will use this one example of buhari's failure for now..

...Yet practical ALL northern muslims and their muslim brotherhood in sw still insits that buhari/apc is the best thing after sliced bread just because buhari is a MUSLIM!.. know that some christian and pagan ignoramus in sw also supports buhari but the muslims there carries the day

..If that is not stuupidity,then i dont know what is..period.

darlenese:



As long as it is bigger than ur dick , no problem !

What brought about that? Carry time and go look for something worthwhile to use as example not reproductive organs.

This happens because we eat cow meat. If everybody in south and south east stop eating cow meat, we should be respected and hunger will flow through North. Join #stopeatingcowmeat campaing.

I see you use the word pharisee a lot. Is that what you call your parents or its simply your family name

sapele914:
At least you admitted not as empty but still empty initio,hypocritical ignorant Pharisee