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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
PROVERBZ: If his coach has so much faith in Stephen Odey's abilities, then I think he is what a good look. However, it is better a journalist ask Salisu whether he closely watched him and what he thinks. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:34pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
well well well, going by the standard of Super Eagles players, you have a point.. happy now. Confederations cup only, I agree. But was never the man of the match during any of the world cup qualifiers. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 12:40pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
PROVERBZ:Get serious... Does the coach know who Ronaldo and Messi are? I no con like the guy sef cos of the silly comment of the coach. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:41pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: What about the repeated man of the match he won during the AFCON? The only reason why Mikel did not get celebrated in World Football is because he played a conservative role. He shone under Keshi because the Big boss gave him a creative platform to express his abilities and Mikel did not let the Big Boss down. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:44pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
A lot of talk of young inexperienced and in many instances unproven at National competitive level players. Why is nobody talking about Sone Aluko Fulham fc, yes he is 27, but he is real quality. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:47pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
You obviously haven't watched Mikel extensively in the Green and white. Your comment on him unable to dictate the tempo of a game reeks of ignorance I cannot comprehend. Joebie: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:50pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Even with the defense we put up against Algeria, I believe we will beat that Cameroonian team in Uyo. Idowu or no Idowu or Ebuehi. We just need our attacking midfielders to come to the party and the pressure will be on the Cameroonians. Get Iheanacho in good scoring positions and the Cameroonians will see wonders. We will unleash Etebo, Iwobi and Moses as AM/Wingers in that game and let me see whether that there defense will not crumble. Though I have not rated this team that highly but I still believe in their abilities. This team can get at least 3pt from that clash. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:51pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Had Mikel had a bad game in any of the WCQs games so far?? Had Mikel ever had a below 7-8 over 10 performance in any of those games?? Also when he picked up MOTM awards three times en route to Afcon glory in 2013, you didn't come out and talk then... *smh* And what do you mean by "Standard of the Super Eagles"?? Insinuating we are bunch of rag-tags?? Joebie: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:54pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
yes, I was expecting an insult of some sort. typical of nigerians in threads. I can make my point accross though without going that route. Your argument that his is the standout a player in the green white green, Please tell me what match? Or are you talking about the Olympic games or 3 years ago in the confed cup? He may be your favorite player, but not everybody's.. no need for insults. we are adults with different opinions. or do two commentators in a match usually agree all the time? TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:57pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
seriously? my brother.. if we were having discussion with other Africans and you told them Mikel is our best player, I will seriously be ashamed. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:59pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
We need to exercise caution. The secret of Rohr's success. consider this: http://spotkik.com/2016/11/15/the-secret-behind-rohrs-winning-streak/ Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:00pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Saying your comments reek of IGNORANCE IS NOT AN INSULT mister.... You don't think you can just jump in here and start rambling without Facts and stats about Mikel's non-relevance to the Super Eagles and you think some of us would just keep quiet. So mister... Your comment is Ignorance-laden and there's no insult intended in stating what is truthful about your comments. Joebie: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:01pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
I'm a super eagles fan. die hard for that matter. but i'm a realist. you are talking 2013. How many caps has Mikel? You are only speaking about a handful of matches. What's your yardstick Super Eagles wise? Can Mikel even be mentioned among our all time greats? TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:03pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
ok my brother.. but remember not everyone will agree with you, and they are not necessarily ignorant. for me i take it as you have a different opinion.. i can now move on TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:05pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
It's obvious what your agenda on this thread is okay... So save yourself the stress. Mikel not among our all-time greats??... Lolll... Oga... Just say this, "I hate Mikel, he's not good jare... Wetin una see in that lad sef" That way we would not be deceiving ourselves thinking we are having a healthy discourse on Mikel coz we are not... You just don't fancy the guy. Period. Joebie: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:06pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
I only said he is overrated. I never said he is not a good player. I don't dislike him.. logic over sentiments for me. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:09pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
It is not about Agreement... It is about Facts... Show us facts showing that Mikel is overrated and not relevant to the Super Eagles or have never been relevant. We are waiting for you... Some arguments have no absolutes so can attract different stands and facts stated from various angles. Some other arguments are based on what we fancy and a bit of bias. Some others are based on generic opinions and many many more. But this, on Mikel is an absurd argument. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:10pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Then show us the logics in your saying he cannot dictate a game's tempo, and that he can be benched by ndidi or that he is overrated... Show us with facts... Show us with reference to his performances in the Green and White. Joebie: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:14pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
He cannot dictate is relative.. take note that i'm making a comparison here.. For example I could have had other number 10s in mind when I said that.. e.g Okocha etc. And by overrated I mean he is not world class like you guys are making it seem. Please can you tell me how long you have been following the Super Eagles? Are you saying you can mention Mikel as among our all time greats, say, all time top 10? TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:15pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: That is you but we are talking about a player who has stood out in recent years in African football. Nominated for the African footballer of the year and lost it to Yaya Toure who was in blistering form. We are talking of a player that stood out in the AFCON against Cote I'voire with the likes of Yaya Toure, Drogba and Gervinho on the field. Mikel's nicking the ball off Yaya towards the end of the match was one of the highlights of the tournament. We are not even talking about his Olympics performance. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:16pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Never said he is not relevant.. but the way the Super Eagles are building and we are lacking world class players until we prove otherwise. The youths definitely have the potential to become one in future. But like I implied, Mikel is replaceable even right now. TheSuperNerd: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:19pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
you have just implied he is second fiddle to those names you mentioned.. And we are talking Africa.. please.. he is nowhere near world class.. I'm not saying he is not good TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:23pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Mikel is actually World class.... Name any other African midfielder today who can stand in Mikel's class apart from Yaya Toure.... Who?? Wanyama?? Ndidi?? Kessie?? Who naa?? Siani?? Kouyate?? Who?? And Mikel is not limited to the no.10 role... He also plays as the CMF of the team... The major engine room... Sometimes, he is a deep-lying playmaker like we saw at Afcon 2013. Mikel is practically a midfield boss. Against Xavi and Iniesta at Fifa confed cup 2013, he was the boss on the day. Did you watch that game?? Na wa oooo.... @first bolded... If you've been following this thread, you'll know how long I have been following... Clue: Indomiegeneration at your service... Football analysis is not in years of followership alone but in a deep-seated knowledge of the game that spans generations...... @second bolded.... Hahahahahahaha... Mikel is not just in top 10, he is in top 3-5.... #fact If you don't like it... Go tell Odegbami, Ehilegbu, Henry Nwosu, And co to pick up their boots and start playing again so as to surpass Mikel's legend... Joebie: 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:28pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: A player who is not World Class can not do what Mikel did against Spain. Mikel set the whole world talking. Even Bleacherreport did a full article after the game about Mikel. Extravagance is not all the ten role is about. Mikel brings a class of maturity and intelligence you can hardly find in the game. He is a pure genius. If not the faith Big Boss Keshi had in Mikel we would not even have this discussion. And, Yes, Mikel is among the all time greats of the Super Eagles. Why do you think Okocha retired early when he still had so much football in him? He trusted the young Mikel to carry the touch on and the young man delivered. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:28pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Say you just like Mikel. I personally thought he did well in the confed cup.. but a world class player should show that consistency and a high level all the time. Where was he at the World Cup? I'm sorry he is a good player.. yes versatile.. but not world class. and someone wants to tell me to come with the facts..are what you stated facts.. a handful of games to buttress your point?.. you are purely sentimental. If legends in the game are asked to name their top 10, i'm sure Mikel will hardly be mentioned. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:30pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
smh.. I have nothing more to say lol TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:32pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
By who exactly?? And I speak of that CMF role.... Not the no.10 role... Who can replace Mikel "super-comforably" (note the word "super". Kelechi Nwakali?? Alex Iwobi?? John Ogu?? Who?? .................. Our team is young and the only world class players I can point to are Mikel and...... Oops... Just Mikel. Victor Moses' super form and class just began this season. He needs to repeat same for the next few years to become fully world class... But he does function like a world class player now BUT I CANNOT TERM HIM WORLD CLASS YET as much as I would love to to show our Super Eagles isn't a bunch of rag-tags... In Kelechi Iheanacho, Alex Iwobi, Wilfred Ndidi and even Isaac Success... We have potential world class players... In Troost Ekong, we have a defender rated as one of the very best (the top 5-10) in scandinavian europe before he joined Gent... In Wilfred Ndidi, we have a fast-rising super performer in the DMF role. A player who floored Pogba in the EPL when their teams clashed. Onazi should be scared.... Our team is "NOT THERE YET" (Cc: Sir Icon4s) It's a whole new generation... I am sure back in 1990 and 1992, you wouldn't have termed the likes of Yekini and Finidi as world class. Joebie: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:34pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: How did I imply? Mikel stood out against the Ivorians and was one of the top performers. Mikel has bucket loads of talent but played a conservative role. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:35pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Say you just hate Mikel... A world class player should show that consistency and a high level all the time. Where was Lionel Messi at the 2010 World Cup?? Where was Cristiano Ronaldo at the 2014 World cup?? Oga.... Just one tournament is all you point to..... Show us another please... Joebie: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:39pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
Joebie: So you think the Cameroonian team will surely improve after this AFCON huh-huh? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:43pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
We are saying almost the same thing. However this is where we differ. Many other players have not had their chance like Mikel in that role. Mikel has been around for a long time now.. and I can only say he had stand out performances in only a few games of those many matches. There is no stiff competition in the SE right now even in that position, that doesnt make him world class. Ndidi will play the CMF role better, but that is open to debate because he is a new player and that will be proven with time. Even with the scarce competition in the SE I can only pin point a few games where Mikel posted great performances.. My world class players are not like that.. at least in my standard.. I don't know about you. Finidi clearly was. he was rated the best number 7 oftentimes. Yekini did not prove it at the world stage. but definitely was Africa's best at a time, and he showed that consistently. Please let's raise the bar high.. We can have the likes of George Weah in future.. definitely not Mikel TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:43pm On Feb 07, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: See, I know this team is 'NOT THERE YET' but where are we are right now I can tell you we can defeat that Cameroonian team at least in Uyo. No be so we dey fear when we wan play Algeria? I am not underrating the Cameroonians I am just talking based on our abilities. If Icon4s (the conservatist) tells you this team is good enough then .... 1 Like |
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