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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kaellivi(m): 3:36pm On Feb 09, 2017
EgunMogaji:
I saw this outfit today near onireke axis.

They sell this fired clay bricks including one for decking. They are not cheap starting from N750 per brick.
you can get these bricks at a cheaper price, starting from 100 to 350 depending on the type. call if interested 08154666666
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 3:53pm On Feb 09, 2017
Hmmmmn.
What services are provided as per service charge in your case ? I would definitely sanction no opening of gate to non-payers (so if they drive in, they would have to get down to open the gate), afterall its the service charge that also funds security, so how they can expect that maiguard will serve them for free or no salary is beyond me.

Some well established estate would not allow even house owners to drive into the estate unless they pay certain dues. I have witnessed this first hand.

gabbytabby:
Try not to put your maigard on a collision course unless you live in the house. The service charge issue did not work for me. I am currently working on an all inclusive rent figure. There has been a revolt leading to some vacancies at times its for the best as it has allowed me to get ride of all none payers.

To keep the cost down and because I was funding the bulk of this personally I converted the maiguard room to shop after they failed to arrange this themselves and it was unused for close to 2 years. I kept the add on service to a bare minimum.

Some tenants who had to go round and do the collection are happy about this development as it keeps interactions with tenants over money to a minimum.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 4:21pm On Feb 09, 2017
Lets just say I like a simple life and this people will wear person out. CDA security, trash, cleaning, gardening and soakaway.






quote author=mavverick post=53560976]Hmmmmn.
What services are provided as per service charge in your case ? I would definitely sanction no opening of gate to non-payers (so if they drive in, they would have to get down to open the gate), afterall its the service charge that also funds security, so how they can expect that maiguard will serve them for free or no salary is beyond me.

Some well established estate would not allow even house owners to drive into the estate unless they pay certain dues. I have witnessed this first hand.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:54pm On Feb 09, 2017
gabbytabby:
Try not to put your maigard on a collision course unless you live in the house. The service charge issue did not work for me. I am currently working on an all inclusive rent figure. There has been a revolt leading to some vacancies at times its for the best as it has allowed me to get ride of all none payers.

To keep the cost down and because I was funding the bulk of this personally I converted the maiguard room to shop after they failed to arrange this themselves and it was unused for close to 2 years. I kept the add on service to a bare minimum.

Some tenants who had to go round and do the collection are happy about this development as it keeps interactions with tenants over money to a minimum.

I expect that behaviour from a typical Nigerian,they're very selfish when it comes to paying for services,they hate parting with their money.

I think all inclusive seems more realistic.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 8:52pm On Feb 09, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amanikondo: 12:06am On Feb 10, 2017
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4846307_isherinorth1_jpeg62d71bdfa6e1f99640a980e00867b6f0
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nio68(m): 12:18am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4846307_isherinorth1_jpeg62d71bdfa6e1f99640a980e00867b6f0

it appears the intention of people that did this wasn't just to steal o
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 12:25am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4846307_isherinorth1_jpeg62d71bdfa6e1f99640a980e00867b6f0

I have begun to ask myself why I did the so called burglary proof after seeing this. Nigerian criminals are so hardened to the extent they go any length to rob any house they set their eyes on. These criminals break holes in the wall and enter any house they set their eyes on.

Burglary proof is only for petty thieves.

I am now more than convinced that I need 2-3 sets of AK-47 and some .45 Caliber handguns with thousands of bullet packs in my house to sleep well in Nigeria. If you dare break my wall and I happen to have my guns with me in Nigeria, then either you die or I die that day. cool

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:09am On Feb 10, 2017
FastShipping:


I have begun to ask myself why I did the so called burglary proof after seeing this. Nigerian criminals are so hardened to the extent they go any length to rob any house they set their eyes on. These criminals break holes in the wall and enter any house they set their eyes on.

Burglary proof is only for petty thieves.

I am now more than convinced that I need 2-3 sets of AK-47 and some .45 Caliber handguns with thousands of bullet packs in my house to sleep well in Nigeria. If you dare break my wall and I happen to have my guns with me in Nigeria, then either you die or I die that day. cool
At the end of the day thieves are the only ones that wish you well grin cheesy

Will definitely have couple of those AKs if i smell what the thieves are cooking cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:19am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome

Can you show the kind of burglary you had in that window befirebit was removed. Sample from other similar windows. Thx.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:47am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4846307_isherinorth1_jpeg62d71bdfa6e1f99640a980e00867b6f0
Let's ask ourselves questions. For determined thieves to remove this burglary, it takes time to do this. In the process, arent anyone home?. They definitely would hear sounds.

And if they do, they would most likely scream for help and even call police. I believe it is practically impossible for even determined thieves to successfully do this without being obstructed by owner or people or tenants (if any)

So i want to conclude base on this picture that owner might be going through rehab shocked shocked

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:44am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.


My friends house was robbed in a similar pattern, they climbed his huge fence, entered the compound, removed the protector via the window, entered his flat, he was at work, his wife & 2 kids alone when the ugly incident happened, the wife was asked to lie down and should not shout, they robbed them, opened the front door / the main gate (both has burglary proof) and took all their loot and went away.

Nigeria is not safe at the moment, hunger, frustration, desperation, hopelessness has driven bad boys into crime, having all manner of security gadgets is good, but it does not dissuade determined criminals from robbing you, we have the 1 million robbery gang in lagos, they go in groups, well armed and they have wrecked havoc in several homes and sometimes they also rape women during their operation / carry soup & food items from your fridge during operation, effective neighborhood security / Opc guys + Police patrol might help to curtail crime + God Almighty if you subscribe to his protection or juju if that is what you believe in. Lol
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:56am On Feb 10, 2017
Empiree:
Let's ask ourselves questions. For determined thieves to remove this burglary, it takes time to do this. In the process, arent anyone home?. They definitely would hear sounds.

And if they do, they would most likely scream for help and even call police. I believe it is practically impossible for even determined thieves to successfully do this without being obstructed by owner or people or tenants (if any)

So i want to conclude base on this picture that owner might be going through rehab shocked shocked
The fear and tension alone when robbers invade your property will not make you do the right thing, haven't you heard of robbers pointing guns at people who are sleeping and tell them to cooperate or they blow their heads off, Nigeria is more like a country without security at the moment, what do you do as a home owner when you have 7 bad boys with AK-47 inside your living room pointed at you? and you have others waiting at different areas of your building?....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:29am On Feb 10, 2017
i believe this was done when the owner was away. apparently travelled and also believe its a lone compound.

put a cctv right there monitor your home even when u are away... its can also scare them away too
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 8:45am On Feb 10, 2017
amanikondo:
For those that argue that having burglary separately is more secure, see the outcome here.
The burglary was removed.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4846307_isherinorth1_jpeg62d71bdfa6e1f99640a980e00867b6f0

Even if it was an embedded burglary, this would have still happened. The owner of the house was kidnapped. The Police commissioner visited the place. So, i doubt they came to steal.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 8:51am On Feb 10, 2017
euromilion:


I expect that behaviour from a typical Nigerian,they're very selfish when it comes to paying for services,they hate parting with their money.

I think all inclusive seems more realistic.

Some of the landlords or caretakers are worse than the tenants. The tenants pay to them, they eat the money and start giving excuses. Iam in a six-flat apartment building. When we entered, light bill, water bill and security guard bill was included in the bill which we all paid and the landlord/caretaker said that he will be paying. He never paid to PHCN nor paid to Water corporation. He was even owing the security guard and he was not concerned because he was not living in the compound. We had to bear the brunt of PHCN, water corporation and security guard. When we were renewing, we insisted on doing it ourselves instead of paying it to him in our rent. That solved all the problems. So, do not be quick to blame the tenants Some of these landlords/care takers are worse than tenants.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 11:44am On Feb 10, 2017
It looks like the window glass was broken to open the window from outside, then they broke off the hook points of the burglary to then take it off.
I remember when i was telling my welder that we should use 16mm rods for the burglary, he did YIMMU to me that it doesnt stop the determined thief its just something to put off low level ones.

Also our Nigerian mentality, if you got a house to rent and it doesnt have burglary, it will be frowned upon oo.

NL1960:


Even if it was an embedded burglary, this would have still happened. The owner of the house was kidnapped. The Police commissioner visited the place. So, i doubt they came to steal.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 12:21pm On Feb 10, 2017
Na wa o! Things are happening these days o.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 1:06pm On Feb 10, 2017
AngelicBeing:
The fear and tension alone when robbers invade your property will not make you do the right thing, haven't you heard of robbers pointing guns at people who are sleeping and tell them to cooperate or they blow their heads off, Nigeria is more like a country without security at the moment, what do you do as a home owner when you have 7 bad boys with AK-47 inside your living room pointed at you? and you have others waiting at different areas of your building?....
Thats sucks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 1:56pm On Feb 10, 2017
AngelicBeing:


My friends house was robbed in a similar pattern, they climbed his huge fence, entered the compound, removed the protector via the window, entered his flat, he was at work, his wife & 2 kids alone when the ugly incident happened, the wife was asked to lie down and should not shout, they robbed them, opened the front door / the main gate (both has burglary proof) and took all their loot and went away.

Nigeria is not safe at the moment, hunger, frustration, desperation, hopelessness has driven bad boys into crime, having all manner of security gadgets is good, but it does not dissuade determined criminals from robbing you, we have the 1 million robbery gang in lagos, they go in groups, well armed and they have wrecked havoc in several homes and sometimes they also rape women during their operation / carry soup & food items from your fridge during operation, effective neighborhood security / Opc guys + Police patrol might help to curtail crime + God Almighty if you subscribe to his protection or juju if that is what you believe in. Lol
Juju ke, short Gun, or semi automatic is better oh, automatic pump action gun 1click 15 bullets will do better job. Many of those guns are sold on street here like mama way the sale Akara on street there, if you know how to get one. Lol

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:08pm On Feb 10, 2017
kopell:
Juju ke, short Gun, or semi automatic is better oh, automatic pump action gun 1click 15 bullets will do better job. Many of those guns are sold on street here like mama way the sale Akara on street there, if you know how to get one. Lol
Some people believe in juju, sango, ifa, babalawo, short brooms hanged by the gate to keep robbers / evil away, l have seen that in several buildings in Nigeria, ultimately the Almighty God is the greatest security / insurance to have grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 6:26pm On Feb 10, 2017
twinskenny:


thank you sir

below are the prices as at last week
(coleman)
1. 2.5mm = 12000
2. 1.5mm=7600
3. 4mm=20500
4. 10mm=50500
5. Coaxial cable for TV (scan product). 19500 (anstel 300m)
Thanks Twinskenny,
I appreciate.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 8:46pm On Feb 10, 2017
Chekitaut:
Yes my Oga
Na wao,
This keeps getting scarier and discouraging each day. If they increase the price so will others follow. I am even wondering how much Metcopo roofing sheets step tile might be costing now.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 10:44pm On Feb 10, 2017
Na this thread quiet like this? There is nothing God cant do o. grin grin grin grin grin

Fraudsters they witness recession and people don wise up?

anyways make i go find something strong drink.........have a good weekend yall!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 12:42am On Feb 11, 2017
3strikes:
Na this thread quiet like this? There is nothing God cant do o. grin grin grin grin grin

Fraudsters they witness recession and people don wise up?

anyways make i go find something strong drink.........have a good weekend yall!


Remember your promise for this year. No more looking for trouble.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:16am On Feb 11, 2017
1) No single level of protection will ever be as effective as multi level. Even then it's still attempt at frustrating the casual thief.

2) What was done to this window canalso he done to an embedded one. I chose non embedded because I can do a more ornate design versus the kirikiri ish embedded look.

3) Tall fence (my preference) with razor wire on top.
Mai guard.
"Trained" security dogs. Not family pet.
Sensored and protected entry points with cameras in strategic points.

Now relax, sit back and hope your number is not up with a determined crew. The isha wewes will leave you be.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:23am On Feb 11, 2017
EgunMogaji:
1) No single level of protection will ever be as effective as multi level. Even then it's still attempt at frustrating the casual thief.

2) What was done to this window canalso he done to an embedded one. I chose non embedded because I can do a more ornate design versus the kirikiri ish embedded look.

3) Tall fence (my preference) with razor wire on top.
Mai guard.
"Trained" security dogs. Not family pet.
Sensored and protected entry points with cameras in strategic points.

Now relax, sit back and hope your number is not up with a determined crew. The isha wewes will leave you be.

Supported on all points.
#2 - Even though I used embedded.... it's a designed embedded like you said above not that kirikiri prison type..

But I will also add Asabari security.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 4:35am On Feb 11, 2017
mufutau55:


Supported on all points.
#2 - Even though I used embedded.... it's a designed embedded like you said above not that kirikiri prison type..

But I will also add Asabari security.

Hajji M.

Oga Hajj,
It's so sad to hear the extent we have to go to protect ourselves in our own country. My question remain, How did we get to this disheartening level, what can be done to bring us to a level where we can relax without fear. Does this mean there is no hope again?, Lord have Mercy.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:26am On Feb 11, 2017
EgunMogaji:
1) No single level of protection will ever be as effective as multi level. Even then it's still attempt at frustrating the casual thief.

2) What was done to this window canalso he done to an embedded one. I chose non embedded because I can do a more ornate design versus the kirikiri ish embedded look.

3) Tall fence (my preference) with razor wire on top.
Mai guard.
"Trained" security dogs. Not family pet.
Sensored and protected entry points with cameras in strategic points.

Now relax, sit back and hope your number is not up with a determined crew. The isha wewes will leave you be.


sir

razor wire prefered to electric fence?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 11:54am On Feb 11, 2017

Am just thinking out loud na....am keeping my promise provided no one is defrauded.

Thanks.



ice4u999:


Remember your promise for this year. No more looking for trouble.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DJInfluence: 12:23pm On Feb 11, 2017
Empiree:
Let's ask ourselves questions. For determined thieves to remove this burglary, it takes time to do this. In the process, arent anyone home?. They definitely would hear sounds.

And if they do, they would most likely scream for help and even call police. I believe it is practically impossible for even determined thieves to successfully do this without being obstructed by owner or people or tenants (if any)

So i want to conclude base on this picture that owner might be going through rehab shocked shocked
You funny oh... robbers dey invade a complete street without fear of even the police. Even if the owner was home, shouting or calling the police will not make any difference and the neoghbours wouldn´t dare come out or make any noise. Just pray that you don´t experince this robbers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 1:44pm On Feb 11, 2017
These below should take care of naija robbers unless they come with tanks.

If you can get ur hands on remington 700 308 sniper rifles and a night vision glasses...setup at a(Vantage point)...preferably ur pent or top floor. You can make things happen before they enter ur compound.


Also get some short guns and pistols....this will be very useful if they sneak up on you so fast.

Caveat: before you attempt this and before trying to be a hero...make sure you have lots of ammo o and be ready to deal with naija police the next day. Cos you must write statements. Come to think of it...Na person wey dey alive they do case.

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