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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:14am On Feb 12, 2017
justiz5:

Intelligence Onazi? Why not Peter Odewingie?

Saves- Vincent Enyeama


Onazi is very smart, he can play anywhere the coach wants him with no problem.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:16am On Feb 12, 2017
AIG07:

Chaii!
*see hard tackle*
*you surely deserve a yellow card*

just joking...


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:18am On Feb 12, 2017
chic2pimp:


Pulling the "Race Card" yet again eh?

If you are good enough, you'll be selected. It has little to do with race.

I will tell you RACE at inception HAS EVERYTHING TO WITH IT.

I probably over the last ten years or more have spoken with at least 75 Black premiership players. Add to that a much less number of Black coaches at youth and senior level, in which all concede race as having over riding influence. Race in the context of negative prejudice which is simply RACISM.

In this matter I am genuinely sorry to say you are Grossly mistaken.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Elxandre(m): 11:37am On Feb 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:



“Himself (Balotelli), has started realising he made a big mistake playing for the Italian National Team and he has told friends about it”, Barwuah told GazzettaGhana.

“He is not being treated well, true they don’t show him the love he deserves for his great talent and skill. I think that all he gets is abuse, especially from the media here and that is because he is black”.

“They don’t like him and it started from the beginning, they didn’t want to see a black boy like himself taking glory of the Italian National Team.”

http://peacefmonline.com/pages/sports/soccer/201604/275998.php
Ballotelli is talking rubbish.

before Nice, when last did he play well enough to deserve a call up?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Elxandre(m): 12:00pm On Feb 12, 2017
goldfish80:


Granted, Zaha is better than Chamberlain. How about Andros Townsend who was playing for relegated New Castle getting to the team ahead of Zaha? You avoided that one.


Owen Hargreaves was always a starter for Bayern Munich whenever he was fit but guys like Scott Parker and Nicki Butt were given a chance ahead of him.

Mikel Arteta qualifies for naturalisation having spent 10+ years in the UK. It wasn't just world cup he would have played for them. He would have played qualifiers and Euros too for them. And his services would have helped England immensely if he was called up.
Justapose Mikel Arteta's case with Diego Costa who got to Spain in his 20's from Brazil,yet the Spaniards didn't hold back in getting him to play for them.
How about Marcus Senna?
When David James was fumbling, the former Arsenal goalkeeper was mutted to be interested in repping England, what later came out of that? Nothing. Instead England took one of their own Robinson and it was howlers upon howlers which cost them an Euros ticket to Croatia.
I can go on and on.... But let me stop.

When in France, there's nutted discrimination against players of Muslim North African heritage. Google about Laurent Blanc's discrimination case which almost cost him his job. Its almost unbelievable a guy like Ben Yedder is yet to be capped. Why do you think Algeria and the likes have it easy getting their French born players to rep them?
Belive it or not, their is racism and discrimination in football. Its not all cut and dry. A lot of sh!t goes behind the scenes.
Arteta wasn't qualified to play for England, according to the old FIFA rule because he didn't hold a British passport when he represented Spain in the youth competitions.
Diego Costa was fully qualified to play for Spain according to present FIFA rules.
Even Costa attracted mixed opinions.
It's not the same thing when you are an older player.
Some must feel you are an opportunist.

Has all these discrimination stopped France from parading an even 'blacker' team than some African nations?
Aren't the rest of them Arab Muslims?

There will always be racist bigots anywhere.

Many always said an African guy would never stand a chance with England, but the truth is most of them were never good enough.
Agbolanhor, and the likes.

Dele Alli has proven you guys wrong!

Germany is a more racist country, but some of their biggest players are Arabs and Africans
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:03pm On Feb 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


If Iheanacho was to leave Manchester City (I do not see Stellar Group wanting one of their top talents on the bench. It is not good for agency business) where do you think is the suitable place for Iheanacho. I mean club destination.
for loan move...
EPL-Southampton, Bournemouth or Westham.

SERIE A-A.C Milan

BUNDESLIGA-Dortmund.

For a Permanent move...
I'll suggest any of the Merseyside team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:03pm On Feb 12, 2017
komekn:


I will tell you RACE at inception HAS EVERYTHING TO WITH IT.

I probably over the last ten years or more have spoken with at least 75 Black premiership players. Add to that a much less number of Black coaches at youth and senior level, in which all concede race as having over riding influence. Race in the context of negative prejudice which is simply RACISM.

In this matter I am genuinely sorry to say you are Grossly mistaken.


There was a season that ended and I can not remember the exact award but they gave awards to the best coaches of each League. Every coach that got an award that day were League winners except, Paul Ince. I think Ince was the coach of MK Dons and he won the league that season. He was the only League winner who did not get the award of best coach in his League. Clearly a race factor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:04pm On Feb 12, 2017
Chrismario:



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:04pm On Feb 12, 2017
AIG07:

for loan move...
EPL-Southampton, Bournemouth or Westham.

SERIE A-A.C Milan

BUNDESLIGA-Dortmund.

For a Permanent move...
I'll suggest any of the Merseyside team.

I think a move to Germany is ideal. They look a good ground for a player to get the chance to show himself.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 12:17pm On Feb 12, 2017
We have moved on "soaring higher."

We are here for a purpose and that purpose is one single thing that unites us all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:24pm On Feb 12, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I think a move to Germany is ideal. They look a good ground for a player to get the chance to show himself.
I just saw this news...

*MAN CITY WILL SANCTION MASSIVE DELE BID*

Manchester City are prepared to sanction a record-breaking move for Tottenham star Dele Alli, according to the Sunday Express.
The England international is seen as the potential long-term heart of the squad as Pep Guardiola seeks to overhaul his team with an emphasis on homegrown players.

What do u folks see to a swap deal that will involve Kelechi going d other way round?.
Don't u think it will be good n nice seeing him work with M. Pochettino?

Cc: Other Forumites.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 12:29pm On Feb 12, 2017
AIG07:

for loan move...
EPL-Southampton, Bournemouth or Westham.

SERIE A-A.C Milan

BUNDESLIGA-Dortmund.

For a Permanent move...
I'll suggest any of the Merseyside team.
Forget Dortmund they have a stock pile of young strikers... Ísák....anyone.....iheanacho will do a lukaku.... Westham looks good. Let us wait and see. But in case you haven't noticed mancity rarely loan players to epl clubs... I still hold the opinion that he will stay. Come August/September we will find out.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:36pm On Feb 12, 2017
Elxandre:

Arteta wasn't qualified to play for England, according to the old FIFA rule because he didn't hold a British passport when he represented Spain in the youth competitions.
Diego Costa was fully qualified to play for Spain according to present FIFA rules.
Even Costa attracted mixed opinions.
It's not the same thing when you are an older player.
Some must feel you are an opportunist.

Has all these discrimination stopped France from parading an even 'blacker' team than some African nations?
Aren't the rest of them Arab Muslims?

There will always be racist bigots anywhere.

Many always said an African guy would never stand a chance with England, but the truth is most of them were never good enough.
Agbolanhor, and the likes.

Dele Alli has proven you guys wrong!

Germany is a more racist country, but some of their biggest players are Arabs and Africans

If a mixed player is world class or bothering on world class, these guys will quickly put an arm around him and make sure they exploit his talents to their advantage.
However if the said player is average, priority will be given to equally average natural indigenous player than the black or Arabian player.
That's the discrimination we are talking about.

You expect the English FA not to give Delle Ali a shirt in his present form?

Why do you think they choose Andros Townsend repeatedly over Wilfred Zaha even when Townsend was playing for relegated New Castle and now Crystal Palace, a team Zaha plays for.

I've made my points with the French example and racial comments attributed to Lauren Blanc.

Sol Campbell voiced out after retirement that he missed out on being England captain even when he was the most senior member of the squad due to his race.
You don't know more than Campbell my friend.


The English FA renegaded on the decision to have Arteta after the bad publicity generated. Arteta had a valid UK passport. He's a British citizen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Elxandre(m): 1:02pm On Feb 12, 2017
goldfish80:

If a mixed player is world class or bothering on world class, these guys will quickly put an arm around him and make sure they exploit his talents to their advantage.
However if the said player is average, priority will be given to equally average natural indigenous player than the black or Arabian player.
That's the discrimination we are talking about.

You expect the English FA not to give Delle Ali a shirt in his present form?

Why do you think they choose Andros Townsend repeatedly over Wilfred Zaha even when Townsend was playing for relegated New Castle and now Crystal Palace, a team Zaha plays for.

I've made my points with the French example and racial comments attributed to Lauren Blanc.

Sol Campbell voiced out after retirement that he missed out on being England captain even when he was the most senior member of the squad due to his race.
You don't know more than Campbell my friend.


The English FA renegaded on the decision to have Arteta after the bad publicity generated. Arteta had a valid UK passport. He's a British citizen.
He didn't have a British passport as at when he played for the Spanish youth team.

What do you think about Ferdinand?
wasn't he England's captain?

Many blacks are always quick to play the race card, even when other factors might have led to favouritism or discrimination against them!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nihilist: 1:02pm On Feb 12, 2017
komekn:


I will tell you RACE at inception HAS EVERYTHING TO WITH IT.

I probably over the last ten years or more have spoken with at least 75 Black premiership players. Add to that a much less number of Black coaches at youth and senior level, in which all concede race as having over riding influence. Race in the context of negative prejudice which is simply RACISM.

In this matter I am genuinely sorry to say you are Grossly mistaken.

Completely different argument.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 1:07pm On Feb 12, 2017
eterisan:

Forget Dortmund they have a stock pile of young strikers... Ísák....anyone.....iheanacho will do a lukaku.... Westham looks good. Let us wait and see. But in case you haven't noticed mancity rarely loan players to epl clubs... I still hold the opinion that he will stay. Come August/September we will find out.
your opinion is welcomed n respected as we all want d best for nacho.

On city players going out on loans, wilfred Bony is a close and recent example. He his presently wit Stoke city.

With d numbers of 'attacking' players dortmund has though not all can spear head their attack(top strike), it's only Auba that has been outstanding interm of goal scoring n he his followed by Dembele if I'm right. Reus is presently a shadow of himself and Isak is barely 18 and I don't see how he'll pose a threat to Nacho.

Despite their short comings these guys are still been given ample time to show what de've got.

I see nacho getting more playing time there compared to city.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:12pm On Feb 12, 2017
Elxandre:

He didn't have a British passport as at when he played for the Spanish youth team.

What do you think about Ferdinand?
wasn't he England's captain?

Many blacks are always quick to play the race card, even when other factors might have led to favouritism or discrimination against them!

Mikel Arteta was qualified to have a UK passport as at the time of calling, having worked in UK over 5 years.

Rio Ferdinand for all his endvour and status as the most expensive defender and antecedents captained England just 7 times. Mostly as a deputy to John Terry.
Here is the list of all England captains till date. Spot the black players you can find.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_England_national_football_team_captains

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:40pm On Feb 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Onazi is very smart, he can play anywhere the coach wants him with no problem.

I disagree Onazi is not so smart. Smartness is the ability to move to any area of the pitch without leaving a serious gap in your actual position, I don't think that I need to highlight how many times Onazi has been caught out of position in one particular match in fact. Correct me if I am wrong, but Onazi has only played 2 positions well for the SE, DMF and CMF effectively the same thing anyways just the difference was the position he occupied on the pitch. Modern players ALWAYS play more than one position, that is not smartness, it isn't special

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MayElEvEn(m): 1:41pm On Feb 12, 2017
I'm dedicating my first post on NL to the gurus here, especially sir goodjoe, icon4, superdupernerd, safari girl, Bascovanvelli, sir kog5, sir goldfish and other notable pundits.
I have been following this thread since its inception and I must confess you guys rock.


For my Top 3 greatest players in green white green, they are

KANU

Okocha

Rashidi Yekini

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MayElEvEn(m): 1:43pm On Feb 12, 2017
Pundits please where is Yusuf Ayila?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:45pm On Feb 12, 2017
Mickael2:


I disagree Onazi is not so smart. Smartness is the ability to move to any area of the pitch without leaving a serious gap in your actual position, I don't think that I need to highlight how many times Onazi has been caught out of position in one particular match in fact. Correct me if I am wrong, but Onazi has only played 2 positions well for the SE, DMF and CMF effectively the same thing anyways just the difference was the position he occupied on the pitch. Modern players ALWAYS play more than one position, that is not smartness, it isn't special

How is playing multiple position not "smartness". Name one player in the history of the game that has gone without a mental lasp? Even Rohr has moved him into AMF in a couple games, he played fullback for Keshi. Just say "i don't like Onazi so stop praising him" next time so we can save all this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:45pm On Feb 12, 2017
MayElEvEn:
I'm dedicating my first post on NL to the gurus here, especially sir goodjoe, icon4, superdupernerd, safari girl, Bascovanvelli, sir kog5, sir goldfish and other notable pundits.
I have been following this thread since its inception and I must confess you guys rock.


For my Top 3 greatest players in green white green, they are

KANU

Okocha

Rashidi Yekini


Hang on, either theSuperNerd or another person is about to attack you for not including Mikel Obi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lakesidepapa(m): 1:45pm On Feb 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Onazi is very smart, he can play anywhere the coach wants him with no problem.

Indeed! This remember me our game against Zambia at 2013 Afcon, Onazi performed excellently at the RB.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:48pm On Feb 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


How is playing multiple position not "smartness". Name one player in the history of the game that has gone without a mental lasp? Even Rohr has moved him into AMF in a couple games, he played fullback for Keshi. Just say "i don't like Onazi so stop praising him" next time so we can save all this.

please when did Rohr move him into an Amf position? Smartness isn't doing what everybody does(I am still trying to figure out where and when he played the AMF position). And this has absolutely nothing to do with Onazi, when somebody here said the same thing about Mikel, I told him modern day footballers play multiple positions, it isn't special, I don't celebrate mediocrity. How many games did he play as a fullback? When you talk about actual versatility you talk about playing multiple positions multiple times, not a stop-gap replacement within a match
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:50pm On Feb 12, 2017
lakesidepapa:


Indeed! This remember me our game against Zambia at 2013 Afcon, Onazi performed excellently at the RB.

and how many games has he played as a RB ever since? And it was against Zambia, slowly Z A M B I A, that year they were atrocious, the very next game saw Efe Ambrose back in the RB position
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MayElEvEn(m): 1:51pm On Feb 12, 2017
Mickael2:


Hang on, either theSuperNerd or another person is about to attack you for not including Mikel Obi

Lol, Top five maybe but top three nah, I stick with those three until our wonderkids surpass them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:21pm On Feb 12, 2017
Mickael2:


please when did Rohr move him into an Amf position? Smartness isn't doing what everybody does(I am still trying to figure out where and when he played the AMF position). And this has absolutely nothing to do with Onazi, when somebody here said the same thing about Mikel, I told him modern day footballers play multiple positions, it isn't special, I don't celebrate mediocrity. How many games did he play as a fullback? When you talk about actual versatility you talk about playing multiple positions multiple times, not a stop-gap replacement within a match

Onazi started is Football career as a AMF with Lazio and he was used in other two positions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:48pm On Feb 12, 2017
Mickael2:


please when did Rohr move him into an Amf position? Smartness isn't doing what everybody does(I am still trying to figure out where and when he played the AMF position). And this has absolutely nothing to do with Onazi, when somebody here said the same thing about Mikel, I told him modern day footballers play multiple positions, it isn't special, I don't celebrate mediocrity. How many games did he play as a fullback? When you talk about actual versatility you talk about playing multiple positions multiple times, not a stop-gap replacement within a match

Against Algeria Rohr took out Mikel and pushed Onazi up the field, he created 3 scoring opportunities in that time. U can call it stopgap i call it mastering tactics in a short period of time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:18pm On Feb 12, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
I am done with that lowlife with a mundane view on life.... let's move on.... smiley

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EPL Wrap: Success Subbed In; Lookman Starts Again; Youngsters Ejaria, Ojo, Maja, Asoro, Onomah, Fela Missing

[img]http://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/75961Success%20(2).jpg[/img]


Catch up on the performances of players of Nigerian descent in the English Premier League on Saturday afternoon.

We start off at Old Trafford where Manchester United took on Watford. The Red Devils went 16 games unbeaten after a 2-0 win over Watford.

The young Nigerian forward Isaac Success tasted action in the last seven minutes, nine less that Italy striker Stefano Okaka, who came off the bench as well for the Hornets.

It finished goalless between Middlesbrough and Everton at the Riverside Stadium. England U20 star Ademola Lookman was handed his second start and was on the pitch for 73 minutes.

Over to the Stadium of Light, Southampton returned to winning ways with a 4-0 hammering of Sunderland. No player of Nigerian descent featured in this one.

Black Cats striker Victor Anichebe is injured, young duo Josh Maja and Joel Asoro didn’t make the squad and ex-Arsenal youth-teamer Olufela Olomola was absent for the Saints.


There was late drama at the London Stadium, as a late goal handed West Brom a share of the spoils against West Ham.

Hammers defender Angelo Ogbonna sat out of the game due to injury. Perennial substitute Hal Robson-Kanu entered into the fray for West Brom in the 67th minute. 2-2 it finished.

Alex Iwobi started and played 82 minutes of Arsenal’s 2-0 win over Hull City at the Emirates Stadium. Moses Odubajo is still undergoing rehab and missed out for the Tigers.


In the late kickoff, Premier League POTM Dele Alli starts for Tottenham Hotspur at Anfield against Liverpool, teammate Josh Onomah has not been selected.


The Reds youngsters Sheyi Ojo and injured midfielder Ovie Ejaria are not in the 18-man squad.


Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22033
Is this Kanu guy Nigerian?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:39pm On Feb 12, 2017
forgiveness:


Onazi started is Football career as a AMF with Lazio and he was used in other two positions.

Yes but why was he removed from there? Because he hardly creates any good scoring oppurtunity, I remember you told me this a long time ago and I later found out that you are correct but he was moved away because he really wasn't good there. A versatile player is someone like Azpilicueta that can play RB, LB, CB and sometimes DMF to perfection.

Cc basconVanvieli
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:43pm On Feb 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Against Algeria Rohr took out Mikel and pushed Onazi up the field, he created 3 scoring opportunities in that time. U can call it stopgap i call it mastering tactics in a short period of time.

where and when did he create the scoring oppurtunities? He started the play for 3 good chances no doubt but he didn't create 3 good scoring oppurtunities, he passed the ball out wide in all 3 occasions, I am not selling him short I just want to explain that he didn't create the chance exactly, he created the oppurtunity that led to the chance. But let's look at it critically, why didn't he create any good scoring oppurtunity when he started as a DMF? Ndidi came in and still managed to create a good play from the DMF position, if you play Onazi as the Amf from the first blast of the whistle my brother you are dead
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 4:35pm On Feb 12, 2017
Mickael2:


Yes but why was he removed from there?


Dont know in the case of Onazi, but players can get moved for different reasons apart from performance. Mikel comes to mind (AMF to DMF not because he was a poor AM player). Lauren was moved to RB in Arsenal even though he excelled in the midfield role (was player of the tournament at AFCON 2000). Even Okocha played DMF for a few games in PSG and that didn't work out. Players get moved if there ia a need in the team and if they excel in that new role, they retain their spot

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