Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,218,080 members, 8,036,515 topics. Date: Tuesday, 24 December 2024 at 07:22 PM

Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) - Culture (10) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Culture / Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) (49179 Views)

The Statue Of The Three Lagos White Cap Chiefs / Ezelekhae Ewuare: The Crown Prince Of Benin Kingdom Unveiled In Edo (Photos) / Ooni Ogunwusi Unveils "Moremi Ajasoro", The Tallest Statue In Nigeria (PICS) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) ... (15) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by vicadex07(m): 8:04am On Feb 17, 2017
Olu317:
If not because You claim to be a Yoruba , I would have insulted YOU! Even you that try to persuade me to sheathe my negative word on that uncultured animal, used a foul word on me. “How do you mean, making fool of yourself" and embarrassing Yoruba?, CAN SOMEONE REFER NEGATIVELY TO YOUR FATHER OR MOTHER WITHOUT YOU DISHING OUT NEGATIVE WORDS ON HIM OR HER? DO YOU THINK I AM IN MY IN 30s? Very before you conclude! However, I had finished up with him on my last message sent before you sent this message. But you need be weary before you send messages because every word spoken or written has multiple meanings to the listener or the reader. MY FIRST RULE IS “DON'T INSULT ME", but I chose not to insult or use vulgar words against you because of your YORUBA CLAIMED IDENTITY. Else my rains of insult come against such personality. Period!

Lol... He isn't Yoruba, don't fall for his antics...

1 Like

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 8:08am On Feb 17, 2017
Olu317:
If not because You claim to be a Yoruba , I would have insulted YOU! Even you that try to persuade me to sheathe my negative word on that uncultured animal, used a foul word on me. “How do you mean, making fool of yourself" and embarrassing Yoruba?, CAN SOMEONE REFER NEGATIVELY TO YOUR FATHER OR MOTHER WITHOUT YOU DISHING OUT NEGATIVE WORDS ON HIM OR HER? DO YOU THINK I AM IN MY IN 30s? Very before you conclude! However, I had finished up with him on my last message sent before you sent this message. But you need be weary before you send messages because every word spoken or written has multiple meanings to the listener or the reader. MY FIRST RULE IS “DON'T INSULT ME", but I chose not to insult or use vulgar words against you because of your YORUBA CLAIMED IDENTITY. Else my rains of insult come against such personality. Period!

If you insult me trust egbon mi i will insult x20...... Wat kind of a foolish elder are you running around nairaland trowing vulgar insults around and bringing disgrace to yoruba nation.
It was you ppl who started all this the Edos didnt......STOP THIS U CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING!!
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 8:12am On Feb 17, 2017
vicadex07:


Lol... He isn't Yoruba, don't fall for his antics...

Look at this kid...... I am more yoruba than you or your generation can ever be...... I am not a jacket wearing yoruba like you.... I am an ife son...based in ife....lived all life in ife..... And practice ifa divination at ife....You are a kid and they way u are going u will bring harm to yourself... Tread carefully dats all i will tell u .... U neva know who is who....
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 8:15am On Feb 17, 2017
vicadex07:


Lol... He isn't Yoruba, don't fall for his antics...

I have no times for e-rats!!..... You shud spend more time cleaning ur face from pimples its more beneficial to you !
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 8:26am On Feb 17, 2017
Vicadex07 ask your mom who your dad is!!
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:54am On Feb 17, 2017
Oduduwaa:


If you insult me trust egbon mi i will insult x20...... Wat kind of a foolish elder are you running around nairaland trowing vulgar insults around and bringing disgrace to yoruba nation.
It was you ppl who started all this the Edos didnt......STOP THIS U CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING!!
Now, you used an “insult" word again. However, I will refrain because I am cultured. I don't run around Nairaland as it seems. You erred again. Learn to take time to dish out when dealing with people. I restrained my comment to certain forum on Nairaland. I don't dabble into what I don't know. I am very vast on all topic I pick on except I don't want to mention the writers. I have restriction on whom I quote,it is called PRINCIPLE. I am emotional about issue but don't write or say things out of context. I spend many times to search and study before I dish out because I AM A WRITER. i don't close my eyes to critic or too egocentric to be called a TYRANT. I read from different authors and whoever I have read from never at anytime draw my views from at least three or more celebrated FOREIGN writers BEING 3/4 of my sources.. I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT I AM GENEALOGICAL FROM ODUA LINEAGE/DESCENDANTS . THE SWORD OF PRINCE HOOD IS MY FAMILY HOUSE FROM ILE IFE. NOW DO SEE WHY I MUST KNOW MY LINEAGE HISTORY? My dear, count me out of this issue among surfers who has no positive mission. If you do your statistical analysis very well, you will realise millions surf this site either of diaspora or local Yoruba descents even non Yoruba alike. So, I know my my onion...
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by odigbosky(m): 6:18pm On Feb 18, 2017
First of all I want to respond to the person who said the Oba of Benin contradicted himself by saying Oronmiyan is the 1st Oba of Benin. The Oba during his coronation proved that he is the true source of his history. I am an Edo man, an Esan to be precise and I keenly followed the coronation rites from day one. I have chiefs as friends and many who taught me things on the coronation process as a whole. Do you know the Oba of Benin is usually crowned at the Usama palace and not Uhrokpota Hall. He was crowned Oba at about 2am October 20th...Ask anybody in Benin that day, there was a heavy downpour that night after almost 3 weeks of no rainfall....Oronmiyan was crowned at Usama palace by the Usama. The Usama built that palace for him to stay because Ogiamen did not allow him access to the main palace, so when Oronmiyan was leaving Benin, He left a king who never got to the palace used by Ogiso Owodo. It was Oba Ewedo who after defeating Ogiamen agreed to make him chief. Utantan is not up to 2 acres of land and yet it is in Benin. Oba Ewedo did this not to humiliate the Ogiamens. The Ekiopkagha treaty is only a ceremonial parade to remind us all what Oba Ewedo did and it does not have any significance in the coronation of the Oba of Benin as we saw in the last one. Infact the Ogiamen family came out to deny any court case against the Oba of Benin...What we want as Edos, is for the Oba to totally scrap the Ekiopkagha from the ceremonial process. Do you know the climbing of the palm tree at Uselu Shell today started with prince Ogun who was Oba Ewuare 1....so Ekiopkagha is only a show and something done to remember the past. Oba Eweka, Oba Uwuakhuen, Oba Ehimihen did not carry out this so called ritual and yet they are called obas.....when it comes to history as a people, we the Edos have one of the richest, and you know what...we have landmarks to prove this....Please I beg the Yorubas to just leave us alone...abeg

3 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by odigbosky(m): 6:41pm On Feb 18, 2017
Somebody here also talked about if receiving ceremonial sword from the Oba meant his Lordship over the king who received the sword. Well in today Nigeria it doesn't mean so, what it means is that the king is only trying to show the world the historical connections between both kingdoms. The present Orodje of okpe got swords from the Oba of Benin as did the new Obi of Isseluku and many other kings. Before the british came here, no body within the domain of the oba had a right to carry the Ada and Eben. It was a symbol of authority, any king who kills anybody in his land without having these swords is said to have committed murder. You can only get them from the oba of Benin, if you don't get it, it means your kingship is not recognised, and that means trouble for you. Like I said, all kingdoms in the empire. Go to owo in ondo state and see for yourself. Anywhere you go in the world and you see the Ada and Eben, know the footprints of Benin war Generals and princes have treaded those lands. I repeat anywhere. When we talk about an Organised empire we are talking about Benin that had a system of governance well organised. In all Edo state, the Oba is supreme king, no dispute about it....if the Oba had skirmishes with other enogies, it was to teach them a lesson. This we all know are features of great empires, and I can list many of these skirmishes that Edo soldiers had to put to an end. Many people will ask why then are the Benins or Edos not many compared to other tribes. The reason is simple, the Benin did not tamper with the everyday life of the conquered people, what she does is she creates a monarchy subject to Benin therefore changing the Palace life of the ruling elite there. So you have ordinary citizens been unaffected in a long term by any Benin conquest but you have a monarchy forever pointing to its Benin Lordship. This we can see up to this day even in Ekiti state and many other states where the empire once existed. So Lagos state is one of them, its only the ruling family that has special links to Benin, the rest populace are yorubas, same as the Iwerre kindom in Delta state, the Ovie of Ughelli and many more......I am not saying that we Edos are supreme to anybody, what am just saying is that we have so impacted the history of many people that you can't find a place in their folklore without the Oba of Benin or Benin in it.

3 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 12:46pm On Feb 19, 2017
odigbosky:
Somebody here also talked about if receiving ceremonial sword from the Oba meant his Lordship over the king who received the sword. Well in today Nigeria it doesn't mean so, what it means is that the king is only trying to show the world the historical connections between both kingdoms. The present Orodje of okpe got swords from the Oba of Benin as did the new Obi of Isseluku and many other kings. Before the british came here, no body within the domain of the oba had a right to carry the Ada and Eben. It was a symbol of authority, any king who kills anybody in his land without having these swords is said to have committed murder. You can only get them from the oba of Benin, if you don't get it, it means your kingship is not recognised, and that means trouble for you. Like I said, all kingdoms in the empire. Go to owo in ondo state and see for yourself. Anywhere you go in the world and you see the Ada and Eben, know the footprints of Benin war Generals and princes have treaded those lands. I repeat anywhere. When we talk about an Organised empire we are talking about Benin that had a system of governance well organised. In all Edo state, the Oba is supreme king, no dispute about it....if the Oba had skirmishes with other enogies, it was to teach them a lesson. This we all know are features of great empires, and I can list many of these skirmishes that Edo soldiers had to put to an end. Many people will ask why then are the Benins or Edos not many compared to other tribes. The reason is simple, the Benin did not tamper with the everyday life of the conquered people, what she does is she creates a monarchy subject to Benin therefore changing the Palace life of the ruling elite there. So you have ordinary citizens been unaffected in a long term by any Benin conquest but you have a monarchy forever pointing to its Benin Lordship. This we can see up to this day even in Ekiti state and many other states where the empire once existed. So Lagos state is one of them, its only the ruling family that has special links to Benin, the rest populace are yorubas, same as the Iwerre kindom in Delta state, the Ovie of Ughelli and many more......I am not saying that we Edos are supreme to anybody, what am just saying is that we have so impacted the history of many people that you can't find a place in their folklore without the Oba of Benin or Benin in it.


Ovbie'abba!!! Onegbe?
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 12:46pm On Feb 19, 2017
odigbosky:
Somebody here also talked about if receiving ceremonial sword from the Oba meant his Lordship over the king who received the sword. Well in today Nigeria it doesn't mean so, what it means is that the king is only trying to show the world the historical connections between both kingdoms. The present Orodje of okpe got swords from the Oba of Benin as did the new Obi of Isseluku and many other kings. Before the british came here, no body within the domain of the oba had a right to carry the Ada and Eben. It was a symbol of authority, any king who kills anybody in his land without having these swords is said to have committed murder. You can only get them from the oba of Benin, if you don't get it, it means your kingship is not recognised, and that means trouble for you. Like I said, all kingdoms in the empire. [size=13pt]Go to owo in ondo state[/size] and see for yourself. Anywhere you go in the world and you see the Ada and Eben, know the footprints of Benin war Generals and princes have treaded those lands. I repeat anywhere. When we talk about an Organised empire we are talking about Benin that had a system of governance well organised. In all Edo state, the Oba is supreme king, no dispute about it....if the Oba had skirmishes with other enogies, it was to teach them a lesson. This we all know are features of great empires, and I can list many of these skirmishes that Edo soldiers had to put to an end. Many people will ask why then are the Benins or Edos not many compared to other tribes. The reason is simple, the Benin did not tamper with the everyday life of the conquered people, what she does is she creates a monarchy subject to Benin therefore changing the Palace life of the ruling elite there. So you have ordinary citizens been unaffected in a long term by any Benin conquest but you have a monarchy forever pointing to its Benin Lordship. This we can see up to this day even in [size=13pt]Ekiti state and many other states where the empire once existed. So Lagos state is one of them[/size], its only the ruling family that has special links to Benin, the rest populace are yorubas, same as the Iwerre kindom in Delta state, the Ovie of Ughelli and many more......I am not saying that we Edos are supreme to anybody, what am just saying is that we have so impacted the history of many people that you can't find a place in their folklore without the Oba of Benin or Benin in it.

Sir, you were making a lot of sense until you got to the parts emboldened, where you started name dropping Yoruba towns.

For the record, Bini was never an empire but a kingdom.

Empire, according to http://www.dictionary.com/browse/empire, a group of nations or peoples ruled over by an emperor, empress, or other powerful sovereign or government: usually a territory of greater extent than a kingdom, as the former British Empire, French Empire, Russian Empire, Byzantine Empire, or Roman Empire.

Calling Bini an empire puts it in the league of the emboldened empires and rubbishes their history.

The traces of Bini in Owo and Ekiti was proportional exchange between these towns and Bini. These towns gave theirs to Bini and Bini gave their in return - for example, Owo gave Bini ivories and Bini gave its Eben sword and other minute stuff. The traces of Bini found in these kingdoms and that of the kingdoms found in Bini was more of proximity impact than anything else. There's no need to blow trumpets of Bini's military that is no more than Aba women Riots cheesy grin.

As for Lagos, Bini influence died after Gabarro. Yoruba people should be thanked for retaining some aesthetic Binis stuff as dynasty occupying the throne was started by Ilesa man and the king making process is more Yoruba and very less Bini; go figure.

You can blow the trumpets of Bini less abeg, Bini was not that serious and came late to the scheme of things in Empire building and recognized Empire in Africa.


According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire

At its maximum extent, the empire extended from the western Ibo tribes on the shores of the Niger river, through parts of the southwestern region of Nigeria (much of present-day Ondo State, and the isolated islands (current Lagos Island and Obalende) in the coastal region of present-day Lagos State)

Omo make una see Bini empire at its MAXIMUM EXTENT (POWER) at the emboldened. Ondo - the few akoko parts & isolated islands; Lagos - the Lagos island & Obalende; Ibo land - few towns in Delta and Anambra area grin grin

Compared to the Roman, Byzantine, British, French and Oyo empires this is complete rubbish cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This Bini people sure now how to 'reach'. No wonder serious scholars on the international scene use Kingdom for Benin and not an empire.

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 3:31pm On Feb 19, 2017
O0ni:


Sir, you were making a lot of sense until you got to the parts emboldened, where you started name dropping Yoruba towns.

For the record, Bini was never an empire but a kingdom.



Calling Bini an empire puts it in the league of the emboldened empires and rubbishes their history.

The traces of Bini in Owo and Ekiti was proportional exchange between these towns and Bini. These towns gave theirs to Bini and Bini gave their in return - for example, Owo gave Bini ivories and Bini gave its Eben sword and other minute stuff. The traces of Bini found in these kingdoms and that of the kingdoms found in Bini was more of proximity impact than anything else. There's no need to blow trumpets of Bini's military that is no more than Aba women Riots cheesy grin.

As for Lagos, Bini influence died after Gabarro. Yoruba people should be thanked for retaining some aesthetic Binis stuff as dynasty occupying the throne was started by Ilesa man and the king making process is more Yoruba and very less Bini; go figure.

You can blow the trumpets of Bini less abeg, Bini was not that serious and came late to the scheme of things in Empire building and recognized Empire in Africa.


According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire



Omo make una see Bini empire at its MAXIMUM EXTENT (POWER) at the emboldened. Ondo - the few akoko parts & isolated islands; Lagos - the Lagos island & Obalende; Ibo land - few towns in Delta and Anambra area grin grin

Compared to the Roman, Byzantine, British, French and Oyo empires this is complete rubbish cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

This Bini people sure now how to 'reach'. No wonder serious scholars on the international scene use Kingdom for Benin and not an empire.
LET THEM KEEP MAKING MOCKERY OF THEIR KINGDOM. THE PRINCE OF BINI THAT NEVER RETURNED WHEN HE WENT ON ESPIONAGE ALONG IDANRE AXIS WHEN IDANRE WAS ATTACKED. THE FIRST CONTACT WAS WHEN ONE OWO PRINCE VISITED BINI AND AS A DESCENDANTS OF ODUA, HE IS SEEN AS A COUSINS AND ALL THAT. IN THE ANCIENT TIMES, THE IDENTITY OF A PRINCE IS BY THE BEADS HE WORE, SLAVES ESCORT AND ORIKI AND SOME PEOPLE WHO AREN'T VAST IN HISTORY WILL COME ON A FORUM WITHOUT EVEN DOING PROPER VERIFICATION BEFORE MAKING SEVERAL BLUNDERS AND DISTORTING HISTORY. THANK GOD ODUA HAD ORIKI LIKE WISE HIS CHILDREN.... WHAT IS THEIR STORY? PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATED TO IDAH PEOPLE ARE NOW CHURNING OUT TRASH BECAUSE WE TRY TO OPEN THEIR EYES TO DEVELOPMENT... 40th OBA and 51st OONI... CLEAR AS CRYSTAL

2 Likes

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Kagawa10: 10:26pm On Feb 20, 2017
opal4real:



Benin's do not worship Obatala. Ogun and Olokun are Benin gods. Oba Ewuare 1 was known as Prince Ogun before he was crowned and he was a great warrior. It will help you a lot if you do a proper research on Ife, how could Ife be 100 Yrs old before benin and Oduduwa sent one of his son's (Oromiyan) to Benin? SMH!!!
The Benin's will never claim Yoruba cos the word Yoruba is derogatory. Do a proper research on how the word Ya'riba came into existence.
The very day Awolowo disrespected Oba Akenzua that was the day he signed his death warrant and later ended up committing suicide. The Benin's wanted to unite with the yoruba's but you guys destroyed that pact by insisting on speaking yoruba in western region council of Oba's. Oba of Benin walked out and since then the western region ended up in one crises or the other. The thief and tribalistic awolowo built cocoa house at Ibadan when the major producers of cocoa were Edo and former Ondo axis. He built T.V stations with our timber and palm oil from delta and you think the benin's will ever forgive you guys?

Yoruba's will remain our son and you better deal with it.

Worship Olokun, the sea. god? Do Bini have Sea to begin with? Yeye!

2 Likes

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Kagawa10: 10:54pm On Feb 20, 2017
odigbosky:
Somebody here also talked about if receiving ceremonial sword from the Oba meant his Lordship over the king who received the sword. Well in today Nigeria it doesn't mean so, what it means is that the king is only trying to show the world the historical connections between both kingdoms. The present Orodje of okpe got swords from the Oba of Benin as did the new Obi of Isseluku and many other kings. Before the british came here, no body within the domain of the oba had a right to carry the Ada and Eben. It was a symbol of authority, any king who kills anybody in his land without having these swords is said to have committed murder. You can only get them from the oba of Benin, if you don't get it, it means your kingship is not recognised, and that means trouble for you. Like I said, all kingdoms in the empire. Go to owo in ondo state and see for yourself. Anywhere you go in the world and you see the Ada and Eben, know the footprints of Benin war Generals and princes have treaded those lands. I repeat anywhere. When we talk about an Organised empire we are talking about Benin that had a system of governance well organised. In all Edo state, the Oba is supreme king, no dispute about it....if the Oba had skirmishes with other enogies, it was to teach them a lesson. This we all know are features of great empires, and I can list many of these skirmishes that Edo soldiers had to put to an end. Many people will ask why then are the Benins or Edos not many compared to other tribes. The reason is simple, the Benin did not tamper with the everyday life of the conquered people, what she does is she creates a monarchy subject to Benin therefore changing the Palace life of the ruling elite there. So you have ordinary citizens been unaffected in a long term by any Benin conquest but you have a monarchy forever pointing to its Benin Lordship. This we can see up to this day even in Ekiti state and many other states where the empire once existed. So Lagos state is one of them, its only the ruling family that has special links to Benin, the rest populace are yorubas, same as the Iwerre kindom in Delta state, the Ovie of Ughelli and many more......I am not saying that we Edos are supreme to anybody, what am just saying is that we have so impacted the history of many people that you can't find a place in their folklore without the Oba of Benin or Benin in it.

Scrap out Owo out your nonsense pls.

1 Like

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 5:37am On Feb 21, 2017
Olu317:
.. 40th OBA and 51st OONI... CLEAR AS CRYSTAL

Thread very carefully nor let benin matter kill you and stop making a mockery of we yorubas .... Benins had 41ogisos and 40obas making it 81kings till date..... Leave argument for intelletuals and STOP DISGRACING YORUBA NATION..... U CLEARLY LACK KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORY...
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 6:12am On Feb 21, 2017
Oduduwaa:


Thread very carefully nor let benin matter kill you and stop making a mockery of we yorubas .... Benins had 41ogisos and 40obas making it 81kings till date..... Leave argument for intelletuals and STOP DISGRACING YORUBA NATION..... U CLEARLY LACK KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORY...
It is obvious you are not a Yoruba boy but an imposter. I still decided to be open minded. And I had thought you reason along truthful path but I can see you are clearly a pseudointelligent..Excusé moi

1 Like

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 6:14am On Feb 21, 2017
Oduduwaa:


Thread very carefully nor let benin matter kill you and stop making a mockery of we yorubas .... Benins had 41ogisos and 40obas making it 81kings till date..... Leave argument for intelletuals and STOP DISGRACING YORUBA NATION..... U CLEARLY LACK KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORY...
It is obvious you are not a Yoruba boy but an imposter. I still decided to be open minded. And I had thought you reason along truthful path but I can see you are clearly one of the pseudointelligent..Excusé moi
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Oduduwaa: 6:59am On Feb 21, 2017
Olu317:
It is obvious you are not a Yoruba boy but an imposter. I still decided to be open minded. And I had thought you reason along truthful path but I can see you are clearly one of the pseudointelligent..Excusé moi

So bcus i do not mar my self in prospotrous self boasting and mediocrity that makes me not yoruba!

U are clearly Unstable and Obssesed with anytin Edo

Do not drag yoruba nation into the gutter dat u stay in
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 7:17am On Feb 21, 2017
Oduduwaa:


So bcus i do not mar my self in prospotrous self boasting and mediocrity that makes me not yoruba!

U are clearly Unstable and Obssesed with anytin Edo

Do not drag yoruba nation into the gutter dat u stay in
ce'est quoi? laisse Moi frere
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 4:33pm On Feb 21, 2017
Kagawa10:


Worship Olokun, the sea. god? Do Bini have Sea to begin with? Yeye!


Lol!!! Do your Yoruba have Sea?
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 6:29pm On Feb 21, 2017
opal4real:



Lol!!! Do you Yoruba have Sea?

grin grin grin grin Dem nor even dey see rain like dat

1 Like

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 10:42pm On Feb 21, 2017
opal4real:



Lol!!! Do your Yoruba have Sea?

See lack of exposure.

Yoruba do not just deify natural phenomenon without having contact or experience of it.

There's a grove in Ife, a now enclosed stangnant pool of sea that has remained for centuries and has not dried up which means it has a source underneath that sustains it.

It is believed that the spot is the source of the sea and it remains the left over spot after the sea moved or dried off of the surface of the earth.

This is the source of Olokun as a deity, Olokun worship & everything concerned with Olokun.

---------------

opal4real Benin's do not worship Obatala. Ogun and Olokun are Benin gods. Oba Ewuare 1 was known as Prince Ogun before he was crowned and he was a great warrior. It will help you a lot if you do a proper research on Ife, how could Ife be 100 Yrs old before benin and Oduduwa sent one of his son's (Oromiyan) to Benin? SMH!

The problem with the fundamentals of Bini history is tjat it lacks solid foundations. Why do I say this? Bini history did not morph independently. Rather, Bini looked at what it thinks are errors in the history of other towns it had anything with then re-structure it to project an image. Its basis is derived from what it perceives to be loopholes in the history of Yoruba which it plays on.

Ogun was never a Bini deity.

All Yoruba national deities (Olokun & Ogun inclusive) are of Yoruba origins which, as usual, Bini borrowed. Bini depended on Yoruba so much for her relevance - monarchy, art, deity & now history. grin

To the quoted: The original Ogun was called Ogun Laadin, the first blacksmith in Ife whose tools are still in the palace, the second Ogun was Ogun lakaye who was the second blacksmith who forged war items and is much more famous than the former. After these two ogun, there were 5 more Ogun who were blacksmiths and located in different places and worshipped differently.

Overtime, Ogun became a nickname of a congnomen if you will and it reflects a person's profession or character (war-like).

After Oduduwa (odu - vessel da/u - creates/brings iwa - existence a name originally for the creation deity but was borrowed as a nickname for the first king of Ife for restructing Ife & bringing a new dawn/phase to ife), he was succeeded by Osangangan Obamakin (Founder of Olugbo throne) and then followed by Ooni Ogun a hunter/war-like king and not to be confused with Ogun the deity.

A great deal of Ooni are known by their nicknames and in most cases. Using recent Oonis as example - Ademiluyi was widely known as Ajagun, Aderemi did not pick a congnomen, Sijuade was widely known as Olubuse II and Ogunwusi is becoming more known as Ojaja II with most slowly forgetting his full name.

I would like to know the source of Ife being 100 years before Bini you mentioned. Even if it was, a number of towns in Edo claim migration from Ife, Idanre history says a group migrated with the from Ife & moved to Bini. Oranmiyan was first at Osile in present day Abeokuta. When the Bini came to beg us for help, they could not have met Oduduwa but Obalufe, the king of Ife. As no one could see Oduduwa not the people of Ife and not even outsider Bini.

Study Bini history as a stand alone history. Stop being basing it on Ife history abi Bini cannot have its own history by itself?

2 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 12:08am On Feb 22, 2017
[[s]quote author=O0ni post=53936426]

See lack of exposure.

Yoruba do not just deify natural phenomenon without e history. Stop being basing it on Ife history abi Bini cannot have its own history by itself?[/quote][/s]

Keep Making a fool of yourself and typing TRASH!!!
GOSH JUST LOOK AT THE NONSENSE N LIES UP THERE grin grin

YORUBA MEY NORGET CULTURE angry grin grin

OLOKUN FROM YAARIBA? HAHAHAHA JOKE OF LIFE........

OGUN FROM YAARIBA? HAHAHA grin grin


OOH LORD HAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 5:13am On Feb 22, 2017
O0ni:


See lack of exposure.

Yoruba do not just deify natural phenomenon without having contact or experience of it.

There's a grove in Ife, a now enclosed stangnant pool of sea that has remained for centuries and has not dried up which means it has a source underneath that sustains it.

It is believed that the spot is the source of the sea and it remains the left over spot after the sea moved or dried off of the surface of the earth.

This is the source of Olokun as a deity, Olokun worship & everything concerned with Olokun.

---------------



The problem with the fundamentals of Bini history is tjat it lacks solid foundations. Why do I say this? Bini history did not morph independently. Rather, Bini looked at what it thinks are errors in the history of other towns it had anything with then re-structure it to project an image. In order words, Bini has no basis. Its basis is derived from what it perceives to be loopholes in the history of Yoruba which it played on.

Ogun was never a Bini deity.

All Yoruba national deities (Olokun & Ogun inclusive) are of Yoruba origins which, as usual, Bini borrowed. Bini depended on Yoruba so much for her relevance - monarchy, art, deity & now history. grin

To the quoted: The original Ogun was called Ogun Laadin, the first blacksmith in Ife whose tools are still in the palace, the second Ogun was Ogun lakaye who was the second blacksmith who forged war items and is much more famous than the former. After these two ogun, there were 5 more Ogun who were blacksmiths and located in different places and worshipped differently.

Overtime, Ogun became a nickname of a congnomen if you will and it reflects a person's profession or character (war-like).

After Oduduwa (odu - vessel da/u - creates/brings iwa - existence a name originally for the creation deity but was borrowed as a nickname for the first king of Ife for restructing Ife & bringing a new dawn/phase to ife), he was succeeded by Osangangan Obamakin (Founder of Olugbo throne) and then followed by Ooni Ogun a hunter/war-like king and not to be confused with Ogun the deity.

A great deal of Ooni are known by their nicknames and in most cases. Using recent Oonis as example - Ademiluyi was widely known as Ajagun, Aderemi did not pick a congnomen, Sijuade was widely known as Olubuse II and Ogunwusi is becoming more known as Ojaja II with most slowly forgetting his full name.

I would like to know the source of Ife being 100 years before Bini you mentioned. Even if it was, a number of towns in Edo claim migration from Ife, Idanre history says a group migrated with the from Ife & moved to Bini. Oranmiyan was first at Osile in present day Abeokuta. When the Bini came to beg us for help, they could not have met Oduduwa but Obalufe, the king of Ife. As no one could see Oduduwa not the people of Ife and not even outsider Bini.

Study Bini history as a stand alone history. Stop being basing it on Ife history abi Bini cannot have its own history by itself?
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 5:16am On Feb 22, 2017
O0ni:


See lack of exposure.

Yoruba do not just deify natural phenomenon without having contact or experience of it.

There's a grove in Ife, a now enclosed stangnant pool of sea that has remained for centuries and has not dried up which means it has a source underneath that sustains it.

It is believed that the spot is the source of the sea and it remains the left over spot after the sea moved or dried off of the surface of the earth.

This is the source of Olokun as a deity, Olokun worship & everything concerned with Olokun.

---------------



The problem with the fundamentals of Bini history is tjat it lacks solid foundations. Why do I say this? Bini history did not morph independently. Rather, Bini looked at what it thinks are errors in the history of other towns it had anything with then re-structure it to project an image. In order words, Bini has no basis. Its basis is derived from what it perceives to be loopholes in the history of Yoruba which it played on.

Ogun was never a Bini deity.

All Yoruba national deities (Olokun & Ogun inclusive) are of Yoruba origins which, as usual, Bini borrowed. Bini depended on Yoruba so much for her relevance - monarchy, art, deity & now history. grin

To the quoted: The original Ogun was called Ogun Laadin, the first blacksmith in Ife whose tools are still in the palace, the second Ogun was Ogun lakaye who was the second blacksmith who forged war items and is much more famous than the former. After these two ogun, there were 5 more Ogun who were blacksmiths and located in different places and worshipped differently.

Overtime, Ogun became a nickname of a congnomen if you will and it reflects a person's profession or character (war-like).

After Oduduwa (odu - vessel da/u - creates/brings iwa - existence a name originally for the creation deity but was borrowed as a nickname for the first king of Ife for restructing Ife & bringing a new dawn/phase to ife), he was succeeded by Osangangan Obamakin (Founder of Olugbo throne) and then followed by Ooni Ogun a hunter/war-like king and not to be confused with Ogun the deity.

A great deal of Ooni are known by their nicknames and in most cases. Using recent Oonis as example - Ademiluyi was widely known as Ajagun, Aderemi did not pick a congnomen, Sijuade was widely known as Olubuse II and Ogunwusi is becoming more known as Ojaja II with most slowly forgetting his full name.

I would like to know the source of Ife being 100 years before Bini you mentioned. Even if it was, a number of towns in Edo claim migration from Ife, Idanre history says a group migrated with the from Ife & moved to Bini. Oranmiyan was first at Osile in present day Abeokuta. When the Bini came to beg us for help, they could not have met Oduduwa but Obalufe, the king of Ife. As no one could see Oduduwa not the people of Ife and not even outsider Bini.

Study Bini history as a stand alone history. Stop being basing it on Ife history abi Bini cannot have its own history by itself?
KAARE OMO ODUA. OGBON, IMO , OOYE GBE WA LAAREGE.... OMO OMO OMO.........OWA LUUSI NI O KI O

2 Likes

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 3:27pm On Feb 23, 2017
O0ni:


See lack of exposure.

Yoruba do not just deify natural phenomenon without having contact or experience of it.

There's a grove in Ife, a now enclosed stangnant pool of sea that has remained for centuries and has not dried up which means it has a source underneath that sustains it.

It is believed that the spot is the source of the sea and it remains the left over spot after the sea moved or dried off of the surface of the earth.

This is the source of Olokun as a deity, Olokun worship & everything concerned with Olokun.

---------------



The problem with the fundamentals of Bini history is tjat it lacks solid foundations. Why do I say this? Bini history did not morph independently. Rather, Bini looked at what it thinks are errors in the history of other towns it had anything with then re-structure it to project an image. Its basis is derived from what it perceives to be loopholes in the history of Yoruba which it plays on.

Ogun was never a Bini deity.

All Yoruba national deities (Olokun & Ogun inclusive) are of Yoruba origins which, as usual, Bini borrowed. Bini depended on Yoruba so much for her relevance - monarchy, art, deity & now history. grin

To the quoted: The original Ogun was called Ogun Laadin, the first blacksmith in Ife whose tools are still in the palace, the second Ogun was Ogun lakaye who was the second blacksmith who forged war items and is much more famous than the former. After these two ogun, there were 5 more Ogun who were blacksmiths and located in different places and worshipped differently.

Overtime, Ogun became a nickname of a congnomen if you will and it reflects a person's profession or character (war-like).

After Oduduwa (odu - vessel da/u - creates/brings iwa - existence a name originally for the creation deity but was borrowed as a nickname for the first king of Ife for restructing Ife & bringing a new dawn/phase to ife), he was succeeded by Osangangan Obamakin (Founder of Olugbo throne) and then followed by Ooni Ogun a hunter/war-like king and not to be confused with Ogun the deity.

A great deal of Ooni are known by their nicknames and in most cases. Using recent Oonis as example - Ademiluyi was widely known as Ajagun, Aderemi did not pick a congnomen, Sijuade was widely known as Olubuse II and Ogunwusi is becoming more known as Ojaja II with most slowly forgetting his full name.

I would like to know the source of Ife being 100 years before Bini you mentioned. Even if it was, a number of towns in Edo claim migration from Ife, Idanre history says a group migrated with the from Ife & moved to Bini. Oranmiyan was first at Osile in present day Abeokuta. When the Bini came to beg us for help, they could not have met Oduduwa but Obalufe, the king of Ife. As no one could see Oduduwa not the people of Ife and not even outsider Bini.

Study Bini history as a stand alone history. Stop being basing it on Ife history abi Bini cannot have its own history by itself?


Picture of the stagnant pool with evidence of its source or be silent forever.
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 4:14pm On Feb 23, 2017
opal4real:



Picture of the stagnant pool with evidence of its source or be silent forever.


Lol, just state you want a photo-tour of Ife.

I hope you show us whatever is the source or is attached to Olokun in Bini.

Google Olokun festival & have fun.

Oh, see the center of the fenced pool? That is the source of the sea water that has refused to dry up for many eons, way before Ogiso, Igodomigodo, Bini or Eweka. cool

There are a lot of things such as this in Ife but mostly protected/kept from public.

4 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 8:48am On Feb 24, 2017
[[s]quote author=O0ni post=53988308]

Lol, just state you want a photo-tour of Ife.

I hope you show us whatever is the source or is attached to Olokun in Bini.

Google Olokun festival & have fun.

Oh, see the center of the fenced pool? That is the source of the sea water that has refused to dry up for many eons, way before Ogiso, Igodomigodo, Bini or Eweka. cool

There are a lot of things such as this in Ife but mostly protected/kept from public.
[/quote][/s]


PHOTO OF A SWIMMING POOL HAHAHAHAHA grin grin grin grin

BENIN NEEDS NO SWIMMING POOL AS EVIDENCE LIKE D ONE U POSTED BCUS ALL THE OCEANS AND CREEKS OF NIGER DELTA WERE ONCE UNDER THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE!

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 9:14am On Feb 24, 2017
cry
BornStunner1:
[[s]quote author=O0ni post=53988308]

Lol, just state you want a photo-tour of Ife.

I hope you show us whatever is the source or is attached to Olokun in Bini.

Google Olokun festival & have fun.

Oh, see the center of the fenced pool? That is the source of the sea water that has refused to dry up for many eons, way before Ogiso, Igodomigodo, Bini or Eweka. cool

There are a lot of things such as this in Ife but mostly protected/kept from public.
[/s]


PHOTO OF A SWIMMING POOL HAHAHAHAHA grin grin grin grin

BENIN NEEDS NO SWIMMING POOL AS EVIDENCE LIKE D ONE U POSTED BCUS ALL THE OCEANS AND CREEKS OF NIGER DELTA WERE ONCE UNDER THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE!

Oceans and creeks - then why does Benin need to use Yoruba term of 'Olokun'? Why does Bini not come up with her own Bini term for Olokun? Why does Bini have to worship Olokun using Ife method, why does Bini not have a different style of worshipping Olokun since it is about oceans and creeks.

The more you people talk the more you expose your king & yourselves as unintelligent.

2 Likes

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 12:51pm On Feb 24, 2017
O0ni:
cry

Oceans and creeks - then why does Benin need to use Yoruba term of 'Olokun'? Why does Bini not come up with her own Bini term for Olokun? Why does Bini have to worship Olokun using Ife method, why does Bini not have a different style of worshipping Olokun since it is about oceans and creeks.

The more you people talk the more you expose your king & yourselves as unintelligent.
Do you mind the Edo people that lacked truth but spread lies. Take for instance, Ibn Bâttuta's account(1325-1354) on ILE IFE being referred as“YOUFI" with well description of their military might when he talked about the kingdom in west of Mahli that before the white men get to the place they would have been killed due to the terrain. There are even more facts that showed Bini were trained at ILE IFE even many having some Yoruba tribal marks among the caste that outrightly belonged to Oba Bini. These people were trained by YORUBAs. Even a seafarer JOAO AFONSO DE AVERO'S account specifically in fifteen century when he came in contact with the Bini/Oba Bini and the OBA told him that is father is ogege/Ogeh/Ogene/Oghene turned to OJAJA of ILE IFE. This was one of the names Of Odua and ruler of ILE IFE. A group of minorities that don't have more than 2000,000+ unified EDOID language are now boastful against and incomparable with more than 45,000,000+ spread across some countries in West Africa , Should I even add the diasporas?. The Edos are finished if diasporas Yorubas are added. I can't just believe these set of hilarious people.


IF WE ADD THESE OTHER RELATED YORUBOID LANGUAGE LIKE IGALA GROUPS, OGUGU(ENUGU,UZO,UWANI,IGBO EZE NORTH, NSUKKA... Edo is finished but we chose not because YORUBA NATION IS MORE THAN CAPABLE.

1 Like

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 1:23pm On Feb 24, 2017
O0ni:
cry

[s]Oceans and creeks - then why does Benin need to use Yoruba term of 'Olokun'? Why does Bini not come up with her own Bini term for Olokun? Why does Bini have to worship Olokun using Ife method, why does Bini not have a different style of worshipping Olokun since it is about oceans and creeks.

The more you people talk the more you expose your king & yourselves as unintelligent.[/s]

Who told you olokun is a yoruba word? Hahahaha

Yorubaland a landlocked land with no access to sea!

God forbid that Bini would use ifa....what useless stupid dirty ifa..
I spit on it.... Wat trash...

Keep peddling lies pray u dont drown on it

Hahahahaha grin grin TRASH!!

3 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 2:22pm On Feb 24, 2017
O0ni:


Lol, just state you want a photo-tour of Ife.

I hope you show us whatever is the source or is attached to Olokun in Bini.

Google Olokun festival & have fun.

Oh, see the center of the fenced pool? That is the source of the sea water that has refused to dry up for many eons, way before Ogiso, Igodomigodo, Bini or Eweka. cool

There are a lot of things such as this in Ife but mostly protected/kept from public.


Lol!!! I knew you would post this.

We all know about this is a man made pond or well that was dug long ago and we all know the source.

The term OLOKUN is not Yoruba but Benin. Olokun Shrine is located at Urhonigbe, take a picture and it will come out blurred.

The Shrine of Olokun in Benin located at Urhonigbe and d source is the now River Ethiope which was once refered to as river Olokun and till date the name of the river in our dialect is Ezeh Olokun meaning Olokun River but the colonial masters decided to name it River Ethiope and the source of River Ethiope is Atlantic Ocean.

Now be sincere cos I know you are a reasonable guy unlike that imp Oluu whatever. Which of the two story sounds more credible? A River which its main source is Atlantic Ocean or a Pond with no source?

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 2:35pm On Feb 24, 2017
O0ni:
cry

Oceans and creeks - then why does Benin need to use Yoruba term of 'Olokun'? Why does Bini not come up with her own Bini term for Olokun? Why does Bini have to worship Olokun using Ife method, why does Bini not have a different style of worshipping Olokun since it is about oceans and creeks.

The more you people talk the more you expose your king & yourselves as unintelligent.

Olokun as far as i'm concerned has its main Shrine in Benin and there are more worshipers of Olokun in Benin than Yoruba. Even your Olokun priestess can attest to this fact the Olokun has more root in Benin than Yoruba.

2 Likes 1 Share

(1) (2) (3) ... (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) ... (15) (Reply)

East African Coast | Culture And People / Emir Sanusi Searching For Ramadan Moon (Photos) / N1M Bride Price List Including 10k For Father's Cigarette, 20K Bush Meat, Others

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 174
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.