ChrisKels:


Oga m do u think Onazi should still be commanding a starting berth in Eagles with the exploits of Ndidi and of course Etebo?

I think Ndidi is a better DM but Onazi is no slouch on his day. I would prefer Ndidi.

tbaba1234:


I feel his time in the national team might be coming to an end with the emergence of Onyekuru and Samuel Kalu. Already, he has been benched by Victor Moses, Simon Moses and Iwobi.

We can't throw away our vice captain like that. The people in England are fools if they blame Musa for anything. They just don't have the guts to admit that Vardy was the problem.

Ranieri lost the dressing room. The players were no longer playing for him.

BascoVanVeli:

We can't throw away our vice captain like that. The people in England are fools if they blame Musa for anything. They just don't have the guts to admit that Vardy was the problem.

Musa has been a great servant for Nigeria but he will be replaced by the talent coming through if he does not step up his performances. There are other emerging leaders in the team.

tbaba1234:
The Leicester dressing room does not like Musa.

Ahmed Musa has always been an inconsistent performer....his pace is his greatest asset bt he is technically n tactically deficient in a lother of areas in his game.....this is his biggest chance to show how good he is bt he has been terribly awful!

tbaba1234:
The Leicester dressing room does not like Musa.

Ahmed Musa has always been an inconsistent performer....his pace is his greatest asset bt he is technically n tactically deficient in a lother of areas in his game.....this is his biggest chance to show how good he is bt he has been terribly awful and has done little to justify d huge amount leceister paid for his services....dude better watch his back!

tbaba1234:
The Leicester dressing room does not like Musa.

Ahmed Musa has always been an inconsistent performer....his pace is his greatest asset bt he is technically n tactically deficient in lots of areas in his game.....this is his biggest chance to show how good he is bt he has been terribly awful and has done little to justify d huge amount leceister paid for his services....dude better watch his back as dis season cud make or Mar his career!

Victor Osimhen has a new coach, arsenal's former youth coach Andries Jonker. The man responsible for Iwobi and Bellerin so let us see how this works out for Victor.

tbaba1234:


Musa has been a great servant for Nigeria but he will be replaced by the talent coming through if he does not step up his performances. There are other emerging leaders in the team.

musa was just unlucky the raneri system didn't favour him. He was suppose to play in vardy position. But raneri prefered a collaboration with vardy up front which wasnt yielding result. When he was signed i taught raneri wanted to use him as an understudy considering vardy is now 30. He scored a brace on his debut again barca where he replaced vardy BT due to raneri loyalty to vardy it reduces musa game time , or trying some unfavourable tactics, which made him a shadow of himself

Wilfred Ndidi did remarkably well today especially in terms of interceptions/ball winning bt d dude still has a lot to learn in terms of tactical discipline as he is easily drawn out of his position. He is also far below onazi in terms of ball retention and distribution....I will pick onazi ova him for now bt he is not too far off in usurping onazi in d nearest future!

tbaba1234:


Musa has been a great servant for Nigeria but he will be replaced by the talent coming through if he does not step up his performances. There are other emerging leaders in the team.

He is going through a rough patch. The coach(Rohr) already uses him as a sub and he performs well so i don't see why we should do the drastic. He has not been poor this season, at least not as poor as Vardy and Mahrez.

eazyjakes:


Ahmed Musa has always been an inconsistent performer....his pace is his greatest asset bt he is technically n tactically deficient in lots of areas in his game.....this is his biggest chance to show how good he is bt he has been terribly awful and has done little to justify d huge amount leceister paid for his services....dude better watch his back as dis season cud make or Mar his career!

it his in fair to say he is technically deficient becos of some run of bad form, from pillars to vvenlo to cska musa he has constantly proved him self. A consitent performer for the eagles. Wat more can u ask for the former caf most promising lad. Is greatest mistake was going to lesceister when it aren't going well of the club he has been made a scape goat

tbaba1234:


Musa has been a great servant for Nigeria but he will be replaced by the talent coming through if he does not step up his performances. There are other emerging leaders in the team.

He seems undoubtedly meek and down to earth, but he lacks that leadership quality. He ain't imposing and never deserved Dat captain band. He is as inconsistent as a woman in a premature Labour and can hardly rise to the occasion when the chips are down as worthy captains do. I love his heroics at d world cup especially against Argentina. We can pick a few games where he's bn above average but we've lost count of games where he gave below par performances. I neither rate Musa nor Simon Moses. These two guys are annoying.

whizola:
it his in fair to say he is technically deficient becos of some run of bad form, from pillars to vvenlo to cska musa he has constantly proved him self. A consitent performer for the eagles. Wat more can u ask for the former caf most promising lad. Is greatest mistake was going to lesceister when it aren't going well of the club he has been made a scape goat

Sir....Ahmed Musa has not been consistent in diz clubs....his good performances are far and in between even wit the eagles.....his frightening pace is rare n most teams sign him to harness dis rare quality he has especially if it suits dia style of play(mostly teams who play on the counter)....his judgement in d final third has always been poor more like a young theo Walcott....he needs to develop dat part of his game personally so dat he brings more dan just pace to his team.....when he does,he will become an invaluable asset to any team dat takes him on!

eazyjakes:
Wilfred Ndidi did remarkably well today especially in terms of interceptions/ball winning bt d dude still has a lot to learn in terms of tactical discipline as he is easily drawn out of his position. He is also far below onazi in terms of ball retention and distribution....I will pick onazi ova him for now bt he is not too far off in usurping onazi in d nearest future!

Onazi's positional discipline is not good either. Watch our game with Algeria again. Especially Algeria's goal.

You are correct about Ndidi but he is more of a pressing DM than a sitting DM. I think, he will work very well with a sitting DM.

I remember there was a game when Onazi's and Ndidi were playing and both of them were charging the ball and leaving holes.

eazyjakes:


Ahmed Musa has always been an inconsistent performer....his pace is his greatest asset bt he is technically n tactically deficient in lots of areas in his game.....this is his biggest chance to show how good he is bt he has been terribly awful and has done little to justify d huge amount leceister paid for his services....dude better watch his back as dis season cud make or Mar his career!

Even if he was a flop that won't affect his career. When was the last player leave England and come to Akwa United? He goes back to CSKA for a little less or on loan. Flopping in England does not always damage a player.

eazyjakes:
Wilfred Ndidi did remarkably well today especially in terms of interceptions/ball winning bt d dude still has a lot to learn in terms of tactical discipline as he is easily drawn out of his position. He is also far below onazi in terms of ball retention and distribution....I will pick onazi ova him for now bt he is not too far off in usurping onazi in d nearest future!

Abeg tell me something I don't know, Onazi good in retaining and distributing ball, are you talking of Eddy Onazi or another

eazyjakes:


Sir....Ahmed Musa has not been consistent in diz clubs....his good performances are far and in between even wit the eagles.....his frightening pace is rare n most teams sign him to harness dis rare quality he has especially if it suits dat style of play(mostly teams who play on the counter)....his judgement in d final third has always been poor more like a young theo Walcott....he needs to develop dat part of his game personally so dat he brings more dan just pace to his team.....when he does,he will become an invaluable asset to any team dat takes him on!

U are just saying what u already know about Musa, he did not play poorly this season. Name the match that he was poor technically. I can agree that he wasn't agressive enough in finding his goals but what u are saying has nothing to do with the Musa I saw with my eyes. How many chances did he create for Vardy to miss?

tbaba1234:


Onazi's positional discipline is not good either. Watch our game with Algeria again. Especially Algeria's goal.

You are correct about Ndidi but he is more of a pressing DM than a sitting DM. I think, he will work very well with a sitting DM.

I remember there was a game when Onazi's and Ndidi were playing and both of them were charging the ball and leaving holes.

Most players do not maintain positional discipline for d entire duration of a game....this is where experience n a commanding captain plays a huge role.....d more games u play d greater ur positional awareness....whether a sitting or pressing DM.....he ll still av to develop a great ball retention n distribution ability....more of why mikel stalled at Chelsea as he became too settled as a sitting DM....onazi does it for me whether pressing or sitting!

BascoVanVeli:


U are just saying what u already know about Musa, he did not play poorly this season. Name the match that he was poor technically. I can agree that he wasn't agressive enough in finding his goals but what u are saying has nothing to do with the Musa I saw with my eyes. How many chances did he create for Vardy to miss?

Yes...u are correct....I am being generic abt Ahmed Musa's deficiency more like looking at a foundational problem with his game dat has ensured he has always been inconsistent in all d teams he has played for....the entire leceister team has underperformed dis season bt he was one of d new players brought in to spice things up bt he has not done visibly well(witout trying to lay all the blame of d teams on him)......on tactical and technical ability....this is wat I mean regards musa

Tactical. A tactically-strong player is gifted in his perception of space, time and movement on the field. He recognizes desirable passes to be made and sees where opponents are likely to send the ball, uses space to create (or deny) opportunities, and varies his speed, playing tempo and ball pace. These qualities are mental and psychological.

Technical. A technical player is a master of the techniques of the game (passing, trapping, shooting, dribbling, tackling the ball.) He has excellent touch, precise control, a fast work-rate of touches on the ball, and uses all sorts of body surfaces or edges. He does seemingly impossible or unbelievable things with the ball, even under pressure or in the closest proximity to opponents. These qualities are learned and practiced, often combined and used in unusual ways.

zicky:
Abeg tell me something I don't know, Onazi good in retaining and distributing ball, are you talking of Eddy Onazi or another

I don't hold brief for neither onazi nor Ndidi n any coach shud pik his choice based on wat he wants.....bt onazi cud shift balls across d field and keep balls wit his teammates within a triangle beta dan ndidi (an ability dat cud bring his team outta a difficult situation n easily turn a defensive situation into an offensive one).....onazi's ball retention ability cud be questionable atimes bt in my opinion still beta dan ndidi for now bt u do av the right to defer....wehdone sir!

eazyjakes:
Wilfred Ndidi did remarkably well today especially in terms of interceptions/ball winning bt d dude still has a lot to learn in terms of tactical discipline as he is easily drawn out of his position. He is also far below onazi in terms of ball retention and distribution....I will pick onazi ova him for now bt he is not too far off in usurping onazi in d nearest future!

You're spot on @ bolded. I've noticed his short comings in terms of tactical discipline and maintaining team shape. First I noticed this was a Europa cup game against Shaktar, they lost 5 something....
I wanted to bring it up was I wasn't in a mood to argue with mikeal2 on the day.

You said it as it is. It'll still be tough for Ndidi to displace Onazi. People are only stuck on EPL. Onazi puts in Man on the Match displays on a weekly basis for Trabzonspor. I know people can argue about the quality of the Turkish league but that team has some good players. E.g. Emmanuel Mas (Argentina's LB along with Rojo). We need to learn to respect Onazi more. It's not by the club you play, it's by how you play. Onazi would hold down a shirt at Liecester easily... Back to SE - I'd have preferred to see both players at the same time but the respect for Mikel and huge talent of Etebo would never make that happen until last 10 to 20 mins as we saw in the Algeria match. But a MF ot Onazi, Etebo And Ndidi would be hard to subdue by any National team from any continent....

eazyjakes:
Wilfred Ndidi did remarkably well today especially in terms of interceptions/ball winning bt d dude still has a lot to learn in terms of tactical discipline as he is easily drawn out of his position. He is also far below onazi in terms of ball retention and distribution....I will pick onazi ova him for now bt he is not too far off in usurping onazi in d nearest future!

Onazi has been in his best form of his career in Turkey, winning 3 back to back man of the match awards.
Why people on this thread derive fun in throwing him under the bus is what I am yet to figure out.

goldfish80:
Onazi has been in his best form of his career in Turkey, winning 3 back to back man of the match awards.
Why people on this thread derive fun in throwing him under the bus is what I am yet to figure out.

Even if it's a new goalie people will say Onazi better watch out o!

goldfish80:
Onazi has been in his best form of his career in Turkey, winning 3 back to back man of the match awards.
Why people on this thread derive fun in throwing him under the bus is what I am yet to figure out.

Ndidi has easily been Leicester best player since he joined. Let us not forget that he had the best tackling and interception stats in the group stages of this year's Europa League averaging 7 tackles per game. That is relentless tackling.

Onazi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season

2.1 Tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.5 fouls
0.5 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles

Ndidi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season so far

In Leicester so far

4.5 tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.2 fouls
4 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles
0.2 Blocks

7.25 Average rating

Ndidi towers his rivals in the number of tackles he puts in, In the game against Liverpool, he put in 10 tackles.. There is no Nigerian DM with that kind of tenaciousness. Onazi is a good DM but in Ndidi we have a potential world class player, that is how highly i rate him. No one covers as much ground as him in the super eagles

It pains me when a new player come, then the "Onazi better beware" music plays. But what happens still, Onazi would still play. Thank God March is here, Onazi would play the 2 games against Senegal and Burkina Faso. This is a player that the moment he started playing the MF in 2013, I knew it'll be hard for Naija not to win that AFCON. It's true that he has had some below par games, but I don't think there is any MF that knows how to turn defence into attack as quickly as Onazi does in SE. Not even Mikel, Iwobi or Etebo does that. So we should respect this guy more.

tbaba1234:


Ndidi has easily been Leicester best player since he joined. Let us not forget that he had the best tackling and interception stats in the group stages of this year's Europa League averaging 7 tackles per game. That is relentless tackling.

Onazi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season

2.1 Tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.5 fouls
0.5 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles

Ndidi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season so far

In Leicester so far

4.5 tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.2 fouls
4 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles
0.2 Blocks

7.25 Average rating

Ndidi towers his rivals in the number of tackles he puts in, In the game against Liverpool, he put in 10 tackles.. There is no Nigerian DM with that kind of tenaciousness. Onazi is a good DM but in Ndidi we have a potential world class player, that is how highly i rate him. No one covers as much ground as him in the super eagles

My interpretation of this stat is that Ndidi is often cut out of position that's why he uses the advantage of his long legs to recover possession with a tackle,which is not a bad act since his tackles are clean.
In the Premiership, he will definitely thrive but in a more technical league like La Liga, he may need to perfect more his shadow marking skills.

His numbers on clearances shows he prefers booting the ball out more than trying to play out of a difficult situation with an incisive pass. In Leicester and greater number of Premiship teams, he will have no problem but if was playing in a more technical team, he may need to cut that out.
Steven Nzonzi have made that transition from booting the ball out and making huge clearances at Stoke and Blackburn to a more refined play @ Sevilla.

The greater part of the stats between both player posted are pretty much identical.

Personally, I see Ndidi making the transition to a CB later in his career just like Mascherano and Kompany.

goldfish80:


My interpretation of this stat is that Ndidi is often cut out of position that's why he uses the advantage of his long legs to recover possession with a tackle,which is not a bad act since his tackles are clean.
In the Premiership, he will definitely thrive but in a more technical league like La Liga, he may need to perfect more his shadow marking skills.

His numbers on clearances shows he prefers booting the ball out more than trying to play out of a difficult situation with an incisive pass. In Leicester and greater number of Premiship teams, he will have no problem but if was playing in a more technical team, he may need to cut that out.
Steven Nzonzi have made that transition from booting the ball out and making huge clearances at Stoke and Blackburn to a more refined play @ Sevilla.

The greater part of the stats between both player posted are pretty much identical.

Personally, I see Ndidi making the transition to a CB later in his career just like Mascherano and Kompany.

Against Liverpool, he won 11 out of the 14 tackles attempted. This means that he was winning most of the tackles he attempted. The lack of positional discipline is made up by the fact that he keeps winning tackles. It is similar to Kante. He does not have to maintain any position because he wins tackles and recovers quickly.

Did you also not notice that he had much more clearances than Onazi? His height plays an important role here.

His stats shows that he has an edge in these two areas..

My only problem with him is that he tries a lot of risker passes.

Not to dispute your stats, but in terms of ground. Overnight I think Onazi does that a lot. Tried to look up stats on the Algeria game, can't find it anywhere as detailed as the one for clubs. But visually speaking I could see Onazi and Etebo almost everywhere on that day. The bustling runs and energy Onazi has to spare makes me like his game style....

tbaba1234:


Ndidi has easily been Leicester best player since he joined. Let us not forget that he had the best tackling and interception stats in the group stages of this year's Europa League averaging 7 tackles per game. That is relentless tackling.

Onazi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season

2.1 Tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.5 fouls
0.5 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles

Ndidi average defensive stats in the Turkish league this season so far

In Leicester so far

4.5 tackles
1.8 Interceptions
1.2 fouls
4 Clearances
1.8 Dribbles
0.2 Blocks

7.25 Average rating

Ndidi towers his rivals in the number of tackles he puts in, In the game against Liverpool, he put in 10 tackles.. There is no Nigerian DM with that kind of tenaciousness. Onazi is a good DM but in Ndidi we have a potential world class player, that is how highly i rate him. No one covers as much ground as him in the super eagles

Dedebanky85:
Not to dispute your stats, but in terms of ground. Overnight I think Onazi does that a lot. Tried to look up stats on the Algeria game, can't find it anywhere as detailed as the one for clubs. But visually speaking I could see Onazi and Etebo almost everywhere on that day. The bustling runs and energy Onazi has to spare makes me like his game style....

Onazi played well in the Algerian game but he also lost the ball and was caught out of position for the Algerian goal.

BascoVanVeli:


He is going through a rough patch. The coach(Rohr) already uses him as a sub and he performs well so i don't see why we should do the drastic. He has not been poor this season, at least not as poor as Vardy and Mahrez.

Always remember their price Compared to musa,,,, they av acquired hero status @Leicester.
Even tho vardy Don lost him MOJO,,,, d guy still outperforms musa,,,,, he should step up his game