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Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 9:44am On Mar 02, 2017
...following.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by AlvanT(m): 9:48am On Mar 02, 2017
Billyonaire:


Its a step by step approach, dont rush it, just study one step at a time. Never be in a hurry, we have a lifetime.
Sir you made mention of the holographic universe in your previous topic, I had to narrow my search including reading Michael Talbot books but i yet to find out those behind the scene.Who are the beings projecting the light?
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 11:11am On Mar 02, 2017
Billyonaire:


Its a step by step approach, dont rush it, just study one step at a time. Never be in a hurry, we have a lifetime.
yomi007k:


Seek n ye shall find.....


I wanted answers to alot of questions n kept asking.

Sometimes u need to go thru hell to attain it jus like I did.

Seriously, I have zeal, so many questions and an open mind but I still know am struggling to get my life energy out if the physical, sometimes I get closer and few times to come, one more step backward! But I have been there I know there is a realm Beyound the mind!

If you can just be more detail with the seeking; how? Steps; to which direction?
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 11:14am On Mar 02, 2017
yomi007k:



Wow im very happy I met u. I read thread from beginning up to this point.

I used to be an theist but I was never logical then I became an atheist n I was never happy. I even suffered depression 3 times n became suicidal. I got treatment maybe dts where my right hemisphere got some repair. Now I believe I am complete cos I knw I am dt I am.

I see myself as a deist. I believe der is God but im not down wt religion. I hv no grudge against any belief system. Infact my gf is a catholic n we love each other n plan to get married. This was something I never thought I would ever do cos of malfunctioning right brain. She knows wat I am, but she still loves me. Thats y I am willing to do somethings just to mk her feel special even if its church stuff.

The problems with religion is war n focussing on differences. I now have an open mind n rather dan waste precious energy on battles, I would rather focus on making the world a better place.

Balance is key my friend. Atheist wud be better with balance.



P.s....im also not scared of death. I jus knew why today. I smoke cigarettes everyday because it mks me happy n productive.

Later bro.

I can so relate...
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 11:54am On Mar 02, 2017
babseg:


You guys need help.

My friend, you have a lot to know and I'm glad cause you will. Maybe not in this life time.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by mrmrmister: 11:56am On Mar 02, 2017
Billyonaire HenryDion.
I want to learn
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Zico0(m): 12:07pm On Mar 02, 2017
HenryDion:
. We don't die, we simply change to another form as the 2nd law stated. We are energy. We are gods. Athough that doesn't mean that we're alone. Some beings, higher in all ramifications exist also in other dimensions of existence. To connect requires turning into the right frequency. Open your mind amd SEE!

If we don't die how come we do not have any memory out of the previous life?
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by babseg(m): 12:24pm On Mar 02, 2017
HenryDion:


My friend, you have a lot to know and I'm glad cause you will. Maybe not in this life time.

To know what
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 12:25pm On Mar 02, 2017
Zico0:


If we don't die how come we do not have any memory out of the previous life?

You have no memory of your previous life doesn't discard the possibility of reincarnation. Those memories of past life are buried deep into your subconscious mind and can only be tapped into through mediation. It's a veil that needs to be removed as you journey in search of TRUTH. However, it's a blessing in disguise. Imagine if you were damn rich in your previous life, it will be hectic to adapt to a more modest way of living. imagine if you had committed something bad in your past life, remembering them brings guilt which might be very distracting to PURPOSE. Sometimes, memories of past life might flash at us and at the same time, confuse us. Imagine being in a strange place and you have this weird feeling of been there before.. That's déjà vu bro... As you advance, keeping an open mind, You will just laugh cause it all seem like a game.

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Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 12:29pm On Mar 02, 2017
mrmrmister:
Billyonaire HenryDion.
I want to learn

Ask whatever you wanna know and we'll trash it together. We're all here to learn.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Zico0(m): 12:35pm On Mar 02, 2017
This thread started promising but before page one it run out of information through their squabbling and half baked contents.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by tracrbloc: 12:46pm On Mar 02, 2017
Zico0:


If we don't die how come we do not have any memory out of the previous life?
You don't have memory of your previous life because you do not know how to access those memories. Oga Billyonaire mentioned earlier, we were born into life with a clean slate. Some years of inculcation and teachings from our parents, families, friends, generally, the whole world, takes us further from The TRUTH. To further answer your question, it's like a house filled with 'MEMORIES' of not just your previous life, but of all previous life. You can not KNOW, unless you locate this house and enter into it....
Oga Billyonaire, please teach us further.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by mrmrmister: 1:10pm On Mar 02, 2017
HenryDion:


Ask whatever you wanna know and we'll trash it together. We're all here to learn.

God, consciousness, I want to learn everything.

Give me links to websites, books etc.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by CandidSeeker(m): 11:41pm On Mar 02, 2017
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yomi007k:



Wow im very happy I met u. I read thread from beginning up to this point.

I used to be an theist but I was never logical then I became an atheist n I was never happy. I even suffered depression 3 times n became suicidal. I got treatment maybe dts where my right hemisphere got some repair. Now I believe I am complete cos I knw I am dt I am.

I see myself as a deist. I believe der is God but im not down wt religion. I hv no grudge against any belief system. Infact my gf is a catholic n we love each other n plan to get married. This was something I never thought I would ever do cos of malfunctioning right brain. She knows wat I am, but she still loves me. Thats y I am willing to do somethings just to mk her feel special even if its church stuff.

The problems with religion is war n focussing on differences. I now have an open mind n rather dan waste precious energy on battles, I would rather focus on making the world a better place.

Balance is key my friend. Atheist wud be better with balance.



P.s....im also not scared of death. I jus knew why today. I smoke cigarettes everyday because it mks me happy n productive.

Later bro.


You're right Bro, it's all about LOVE and adding value.

Jesus' Summary of ALL the laws :
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. - Matt.22:34-40

These things I command you, that ye love one another. -John.15:17 (It's a command).

Apostle Paul Shows Us A More Excellent Way:
But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet I show unto you a more excellent way. -1Cor.12:31>>>Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not LOVE, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not LOVE, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not LOVE, it profiteth me nothing. -1Cor.13:1-3

Peace.

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Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 2:38pm On Mar 08, 2017
adepeter26:
I like the way Sarrasin addresses educational and informative issues without sentiments.

Billy, you are really jonzing up. You started well but ending somehow cry
That has always been the difference between him and billy.

As for the right hemisphere; left hemisphere disparity he keeps hammering about, I just wonder whether he knows anything at all about EQ and the different frames of intelligence.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 2:51pm On Mar 08, 2017
This thread started very promising but just dissolved into a mess of solipism anthropomorphistic egoishness and half-baked thinking sad cry
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 2:53pm On Mar 08, 2017
Billyonaire, when you say
God = source energy, what do you mean really
What akintom was trying to point out was that the definiton is delightfully ambigous and can be twisted to whatever view you want to support.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 3:02pm On Mar 08, 2017
SirWere:
Billyonaire, when you say
God = source energy, what do you mean really
What akintom was trying to point out was that the definiton is delightfully ambigous and can be twisted to whatever view you want to support.


Yes, because even trying to name something that is nameless by default actually corrupts the entity. God is indescribable in human terms. Yes, and the reason is simple. The thing we are talking about here exists in the realm higher than the mind, and science is a product of the mind, and so is language a product of the mind largely attributed to the left hemisphere of the brain. So, how can something that exist beyond the realm of languages, and totally hidden in the etheric core of man, and man's physical eyes cant see, then how can we name it. It is for this reason that I say, I must continue to use the word God, to address the nameless one whose spark we are, whose drop we are. Not because it is the best word, but because it is the only way I can relate to humans on the subject matter.

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Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by mentro: 10:15am On Mar 18, 2017
Billyonaire:


The idea that the Universe is an accident is madness. I am up to date with latest scientific facts and I laugh at the sluggishness of science to understand that every experiment is affected by a conscious obsever.

Looking at the double slit experiment on the wave-particle paradox, it is deduced that the behavior of electrons was affected by the observer, a conscious observer influences the result of experiment. Same thing happens when you observe the mind from a vintage point as Soul. That is when transmutation occurs. It is at that stage that alchemists transmute thoughts and heal all dis-eases.

We can not continue to think that science is against God, Science is just there for us to fact-check accuracy of physical phenomena but science is handicapped by its limitation to the mental plane, because Science is a product of the mind, it cant go further.

When atheist base their argument of non-existence of intelligent designer, then I feel sorry for them. It is like attempting to use a cup to fetch and empty the entire water in the ocean in order to see the bottom, when you can simply use the sub-marine and dive deep in a split second to see what is there.

You can image science still discussing how to design a machine that can move at the speed of light, when speed of consciousness based on the threshold, can be up to a million times the speed of light, and that is the speed of soul travel. You can move from one end of the universe to the next in less than a quarter of a second. And upload data worth a thousand years of experience in just 5 minutes and be back.

Have I experienced this ? Yes!

If atheist think am a wizard, then they agree there is something out there which automatically makes them non-atheists.
Hello Mr billyonaire, I've been following u for a while now. I'm a teenage Christain who seeks the truth. But ur post are very confusing. I'll like to learn a lot from u
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 10:24am On Mar 18, 2017
mentro:
Hello Mr billyonaire, I've been following u for a while now. I'm a teenage Christain who seeks the truth. But ur post are very confusing. I'll like to learn a lot from u

Do you want to know the truth ? Or Do you prefer to know what makes you happy ? Because if you know the truth, you might become depressed.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by mentro: 3:35pm On Mar 18, 2017
Billyonaire:


Do you want to know the truth ? Or Do you prefer to know what makes you happy ? Because if you know the truth, you might become depressed.
How can the truth make me depress
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 4:28pm On Mar 18, 2017
mentro:
How can the truth make me depress
Well, let me tell you a tiny story.

A very hard working mother, a village farmer, toiled night and day, to feed his only son. She saved money and refuse to buy clothes just to make sure her only son goes to school. With the help of the Osusu contributions and friends, she was able to pay her son's fees until he was able to go University and graduate. She was so excited and everyone was happy for her. The son came back home successfully and built her a house, she was the talk of the village, a story of resilience. The son flew out of the country and on his way back to abroad, the plane crashed. Neighbours heard the news and were all saddened, but the woman, was not aware, because she couldnt read or write, and cant speak english.

The dilema was how they can break the news to the woman, knowing the old woman will die of shock or sorrow when she gets the message. Now, the old woman observed their silence and sorrows and could hear the murmurs but had no idea what the difference in countenance means. Should the neighbours tell the old woman the truth ? That is where you are now.

Do you want to hear the truth and be sad enough to start living life differently or do you want to hear what makes you happy yet can not answer all the questions till you die ?

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Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 6:26pm On Mar 18, 2017
Billyonaire:
Well, let me tell you a tiny story.

A very hard working mother, a village farmer, toiled night and day, to feed his only son. She saved money and refuse to buy clothes just to make sure her only son goes to school. With the help of the Osusu contributions and friends, she was able to pay her son's fees until he was able to go University and graduate. She was so excited and everyone was happy for her. The son came back home successfully and built her a house, she was the talk of the village, a story of resilience. The son flew out of the country and on his way back to abroad, the plane crashed. Neighbours heard the news and were all saddened, but the woman, was not aware, because she couldnt read or write, and cant speak english.

The dilema was how they can break the news to the woman, knowing the old woman will die of shock or sorrow when she gets the message. Now, the old woman observed their silence and sorrows and could hear the murmurs but had no idea what the difference in countenance means. Should the neighbours tell the old woman the truth ? That is where you are now.

Do you want to hear the truth and be sad enough to start living life differently or do you want to hear what makes you happy yet can not answer all the questions till you die ?

What a lovely allegory!!!
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by mentro: 12:54am On Mar 19, 2017
Billyonaire:
Well, let me tell you a tiny story.

A very hard working mother, a village farmer, toiled night and day, to feed his only son. She saved money and refuse to buy clothes just to make sure her only son goes to school. With the help of the Osusu contributions and friends, she was able to pay her son's fees until he was able to go University and graduate. She was so excited and everyone was happy for her. The son came back home successfully and built her a house, she was the talk of the village, a story of resilience. The son flew out of the country and on his way back to abroad, the plane crashed. Neighbours heard the news and were all saddened, but the woman, was not aware, because she couldnt read or write, and cant speak english.

The dilema was how they can break the news to the woman, knowing the old woman will die of shock or sorrow when she gets the message. Now, the old woman observed their silence and sorrows and could hear the murmurs but had no idea what the difference in countenance means. Should the neighbours tell the old woman the truth ? That is where you are now.

Do you want to hear the truth and be sad enough to start living life differently or do you want to hear what makes you happy yet can not answer all the questions till you die ?
Happiness is a thing of choice. You said u travelled from one part of the universe to another. How did u do it??
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by orisa37: 8:13am On Mar 19, 2017
God needs the Atheists to exist too but don't be unequally yoked with them.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by jonathan111: 9:55am On May 13, 2017
Billyonaire:
At the core of our being, we are God. We have been looking for ourselves all along. That is why it is so confusing. We teleport to other planes of existence as other entities having different bodies in every incarnations ...hahahaa

Even the fuccking demons know we are stronger than them and at our core, we are all the same thing. Just that our experiences are different, so our minds are different and we seem to be lost in the ego. We are one and the same thing at our core. We are! I am that I am.

If truly we are the same thing at our Core. "I am that I am. Why we con dey die, untimely death, accident here and there, sickness etc
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 10:01am On May 13, 2017
jonathan111:


If truly we are the same thing at our Core. "I am that I am. Why we con dey die, untimely death, accident here and there, sickness etc
You dont ever die. It is your body that dies. Death is your separation from your body. But you have come to identify your body as the real you. This is erroneous. You are more than your body.
Re: A Discussion On God And Consciousness Between An Atheist And A Pantheist. by Nobody: 11:09am On May 13, 2017
Billyonaire:


God - Source Energy

I like the brevity of this definition.
...the sparkle of metamorphism between the material and immaterial.

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