femmmmy:


All of us know we are living in a smart world. Your phone is a whole media house where audios, videos text and graphics can be manipulated, stored and retrieved. It is therefore funny that only what is left on her phone is just a few Snapchat from Skype that are not graphic enough to be termed a concrete evidence, so funny

fratermathy:


So El Rufai's tweets can be used as proof but someone else's testimony against the pastor cannot?

Double standards, like I said.


And yes, you are defending the pastor. She has said she has proof and has made some key statements. One of which is the fact the Okeke is Sulaiman's mistress and we ended up seeing a car registered in Sulaiman's name. Later on, it was taken down suspiciously and you defenders see no problem with that. She provided a screen grab of her face time with him and you said it was a photoshop, where did she get his faceshot from? She mentioned countries, hotels, etc, and asked the police to investigate. Has that been concluded?

What more proof do you want exactly? Has Suleiman even asked for proof? What's his argument? BMC and EMC or APCMC. Laughable!

If you want proof, tell Suleiman to organise a join press conference let them bring their passports for a simple examination.

dragonking3:
So you think this is a case that will be settled and paid at once? Shior. Where was keyamo when Ese and coz pastor had sex scandal issue? There were far more evidences provided but the charity lawyer was no where to be found. Keep deceiving yourself

HardMirror:

I want to understand you honestly. What is your point? Sule is innocent or what?

Cos I am not sayin otobo is not after money nor am I saying keyamo is not after money.

My point is they have something they are holding unto, sule has played into their hands.

dragonking3:
Are you an illiterate? Don't you know your tweets can stand against you? Do you know that El rufai got someone arrested for posting false information about kaduna killings. It is obvious you don't know anything.

A lot of you here don't know the law, you don't know how things work yet you will just be posting rubbish up and down.

Here is a link of the mogul charged for posting falsehood on twitter.. And yes they used his twitter posts.. Nonsense
http://europe.newsweek.com/audu-maikori-southern-kaduna-fulani-herdsmen-567140?rm=eu

dragonking3:
Are you an illiterate? Don't you know your tweets can stand against you? Do you know that El rufai got someone arrested for posting false information about kaduna killings. It is obvious you don't know anything.

A lot of you here don't know the law, you don't know how things work yet you will just be posting rubbish up and down.

Here is a link of the mogul charged for posting falsehood on twitter.. And yes they used his twitter posts.. Nonsense
http://europe.newsweek.com/audu-maikori-southern-kaduna-fulani-herdsmen-567140?rm=eu

menxer:
And what have you deduced to show the Apostle did or didn't do some if not all he is allegedly accused of?

I have seen some YouTube videos of her calling for the police to investigate her bank account with UBA if there are no direct transfers from Apostle to her to be found.

Are you saying banks will connive with her to tarnish Apostle Sulieman's name?

She even mention some hotels (protea) she lodged with him, won't the hotel cctv (dis)proof her claim?

In the voice of 2face, no one holy pass.

dragonking3:
Sule is innocent until proven guilty that is how it works in law. Let Stephenie Otobo stop media trial and take the case to court.. Apostle suleman cannot be judged on TVC and Nairaland

menxer:
And what have you deduced to show the Apostle did or didn't do some if not all he is allegedly accused of?

I have seen some YouTube videos of her calling for the police to investigate her bank account with UBA if there are no direct transfers from Apostle to her to be found.

Are you saying banks will connive with her to tarnish Apostle Sulieman's name?

She even mention some hotels (protea) she lodged with him, won't the hotel cctv (dis)proof her claim?

In the voice of 2face, no one holy pass.

tifany89:

I am beginning to think this girl is just out to seek attention and tarnish the Apostles image while at it. Why is she asking the police to go n check her account when she herself can simply walk inside any of her bank branches and request for a statement of account that wouldn't take up to 30 mins? Truth is she doesn't have any evidences other than some useless photoshop pictures. I know some of us have already sentenced the Apostle as guilty but we should think, that is what our brains r meant for.

fratermathy:


Let me take you up.

Obviously Otobo is enjoying the media attention.

She must have requested for her account statement and that will be tendered in court. It is not all evidence that one releases online. If the pastor wants to vindicate himself in the media, he should ask the police to investigate. After all, he accused of her of terrorism without proof. He should ask the police to investigate.

You say the picture is a photoshop. I agree. Now tell us where she got the pastor's faceshot to superimpose in the picture? We all agree that it was the pastor's face that is in the photo so where did she get the faceshot from? That faceshot is not in the Internet, I checked it myself. So where would she have gotten it from if not from a real chat with the man. Also take note of the expression on his face in the photo.

The pastor conceded to knowing her but as someone he helped. He later said she's a prostitute and a stripper. He accused her of terrorism as well. So is it that he now gives people's hard earned money to prostitutes, strippers and terrorists?

He accused her of blackmail and terrorism. You guys believed but what proof has he tendered? He accused El Rufai of complicity but what proof has he tendered?

Please o. Think with your brain and avoid defending pastors. They are men like myself and no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. If he's guilty, let him come and explain the dots in the story, provide his passport for examination, tell us what his name was doing in a car associated with Okeke, why his name was taken down barely 48hours after the discovery, etc etc.

Zzyco:
otobo had pounds and dollars, yet she slept in kirikiri prison and could not perfect her bail.

fratermathy:


Let me take you up.

Obviously Otobo is enjoying the media attention.

She must have requested for her account statement and that will be tendered in court. It is not all evidence that one releases online. If the pastor wants to vindicate himself in the media, he should ask the police to investigate. After all, he accused of her of terrorism without proof. He should ask the police to investigate.

You say the picture is a photoshop. I agree. Now tell us where she got the pastor's faceshot to superimpose in the picture? We all agree that it was the pastor's face that is in the photo so where did she get the faceshot from? That faceshot is not in the Internet, I checked it myself. So where would she have gotten it from if not from a real chat with the man. Also take note of the expression on his face in the photo.

The pastor conceded to knowing her but as someone he helped. He later said she's a prostitute and a stripper. He accused her of terrorism as well. So is it that he now gives people's hard earned money to prostitutes, strippers and terrorists?

He accused her of blackmail and terrorism. You guys believed but what proof has he tendered? He accused El Rufai of complicity but what proof has he tendered?

Please o. Think with your brain and avoid defending pastors. They are men like myself and no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. If he's guilty, let him come and explain the dots in the story, provide his passport for examination, tell us what his name was doing in a car associated with Okeke, why his name was taken down barely 48hours after the discovery, etc etc.

menxer:

Who is not taunting?
Are you not aware of Sulieman's #1bn threat?
Are you not aware of Sulieman's name calling?

In this matter both of them are not innocent, but I will side Otobo because Sulieman should have respected not himself but the office he claims to hold and what scandal portends to that office.

fratermathy:


So tweets can be used but facetime screen grabs can't be used as evidence?

You guys request for more proofs than what has been given, what more proofs do you have of El Rufai's complicity?

He accused Otobo of terrorism, what proof has he tendered?

Again, you have deflected my questions on where the faceshot was gotten from, why he gave a prostitute money and why the website containing his name as the owner of a car associated with Okeke was taken off suspiciously.

There are more proofs against this man that he could ever have against El Rufai.

If he was so sure of El Rufai's complicity, why didn't he go to court or sign a petition against him if he couldn't?

HardMirror:

My brother. Otobo is a prostitute. She is not denying that. She is only after the money, she want to make the money quick. So let's enjoy the show. Afterall I don't know why suleman could be so stupid to play into her hands. Leave court matter for now, she is enjoying the attention. And I am enjoying the whole show too. Next time he would learn how to distance himself from her type. Don't know why the holy spirit did not warn him.

dragonking3:
So you agree that this is a show yet you have already concluded who the guilty one is before the show ended. Let her continue to show her backwardness. It is not those who rushes to talk first that will win a case

dragonking3:
I am highly disappointed in you. Now its have proved to you that your tweets can be used against you because it is written by the individual that's why most people when they tweets rubbish they rush to delete them because it is highly sensitive. But when you post an image clarity has to be provided because a lot of people do Photoshop. Eg: https://www.nairaland.com/3629995/see-what-woman-did-another

Hence you have to prove that the snapchat is real which requires a lot.

Also note that you can't take El rufai to court because of immunity. Honestly your argument is pointless

HardMirror:

You sound really pained. Pele

Me dey enjoy the show. Sule and the prostitutes. Hehehehe

HardMirror:

Hehehehe. Una no go kill me with laughter.

So you are holding unto elrufia's tweet as evidence for suleman, but otobo's tweet is not enough?

Besides what was suleman's evidence that otobo was working with boko haram. He could not present any.

But otobo has asked police to go thru her bank statement and her passport and so same for apostle. Or did they embassies also conspire against suleman? Lol

menxer:
And what have you deduced to show the Apostle did or didn't do some if not all he is allegedly accused of?

I have seen some YouTube videos of her calling for the police to investigate her bank account with UBA if there are no direct transfers from Apostle to her to be found.

Are you saying banks will connive with her to tarnish Apostle Sulieman's name?
She even mention some hotels (protea) she lodged with him, won't the hotel cctv (dis)proof her claim?

In the voice of 2face, no one holy pass.

Reaslist2017:
Firstly i am not to judge any party
Secondly her accusations are just baseless why not provide evidence if there is any??

fratermathy:


Be disappointed all you want, I am not surprised. So you rule out hacking of accounts to publish tweets or creation of fake accounts to do so yet believe in verification of facetime snapshots?

My questions are very simple you know: where was the faceshot was gotten from, why did he give a prostitute money and why was the website containing his name as the owner of a car associated with Okeke taken off suspiciously?

Psoul:


Guy, u never know what it means when the powers that be want to bring u down. Dey will do all things to bring u down unless u are as strong as they are.

If they want bank to do dat, bank will do it and nothing will happen. They will alter Apostle's account data and that of his accuser.

Did u see the money presented to court in Rivers State as the money PDP bribed INEC Officials with. Bank may have given out the money to Police to present as an evidence.
I never beliv that bribe of a thing. A bribe was given, They were not caught red handed. The money was recovered after many days or week the bribe was give. If bribe is given, do the sharers allow it to remain in bag for many days before sharing it. Bribe na sharp sharp thing.

So fear political opposition when they are out to bring u down

dragonking3:
Hacking of account is a different case then you have to provide proof that it was hacked not just word of mouth. You guys should get that to your skulls. In law, you must provide proof. El rufai made so many tweets that have now been used against him but immunity covers him so it is pointless in his case but Otobo has to provide proof. She claimed that the pastor promised her marriage, then she must provide proof. Was there a written agreement, or video /audio evidence? Let her provide all these proof and stop media talk and trial. You don't win cases in TV and nairaland

menxer:


Well, did you see terrorism accusations as part of my comments when you joined?

You only talk about the blackmail because that is more convenient.

Apostle Suleman accused her of terrorism, you should talk about that too.

Was she charged with terrorism in court? Yes or No.

Besides, from your definition, apostle Sulieman must have done something worthy of blackmail before he can be blackmailed.

fratermathy:


So we have to provide proof that his account was hacked yet your pastor cannot provide proof that Otobo is a terrorist linked with Boko Haram or that El Rufai sent her. Or did El Rufai mention her in his tweets too?

She has provided enough evidence to the media. Let her present the others in a law court. But before then where was the faceshot gotten from, why did he give a prostitute money and why was the website containing his name as the owner of a car associated with Okeke taken off suspiciously?

The above questions are from facts that we already know and they are dots that the pastor has not answered. It's not about asking for proof. The accusation has been made and is in the public already. It behoves him to clear his name by doing the needful... Connect the dots!

fratermathy:


He's taking so personal and that makes me pity him.

Ruling out the possibility that a pastor can shine congo is very stup*d. Is he not a man again?

Just because he says he is innocent is not enough to absolve him of blame. Just because Otobo has not provided a thousand proof is not enough to say he didn't do it. He has to establish his innocence to all and sundry and so far he has not attempted to do an inkling of that. Rather he goes around alleging El Rufai's complicity in his saga without tangible evidence. He accused her of terrorism without any proof yet his worshippers need more proof from Otobo.


I laugh in Urhobo. Kika Koko Hikaka!