Odkosh:
we know we are not a tribe, but we are Niger delta. stop dragging us into your stupid nation, we are on our own, we don't want anybody to drag us because of our oil, be it Yoruba or Igbo. we are not Igbo and will never ever be Igbo or part if your Biafra. we know our root and history. we are never Yoruba or Igbo. so get that Mr man. we are Niger Delta. thanks.

You cant speak of niger deltans without including igbos in it. Besides there is no tribe called Niger deltans.

tonio2wo:
Sarrik! Where are u what do u have to say concerning this?

Is adebanjo now a terrorist like u call nnamdi kanu?

Sarrki is being beaten black and blue

Nigerians are foolish people. Still arguing in 2017 about whose tiny little inconsequential tribe is better. Religion and our various cultures distracts us from the real issues.

It's funny that some people think that breaking the nation into tiny little tribes will lead to success. Ethnic and religious issues will continue, but the difference is that each tiny little country will have it's own military inevitably leading to frequent small-scale wars. We'll all be back to pre-colonial era... constant inter-tribal war, no long-term peace, no political and economic stability; therefore, no growth and success!

There's a simpler way out. Dismantle the stranglehold of religion and create a new cultural identity. Culture is dynamic, not static. It has been done many times in history especially to nations on the losing end of a war. Every little aspect of culture can be consciously modified, even up to the type of food a group of people consume. Intermarriages, migrations via economic development of new areas, common law for all, prioritizing scientific education etc. Huge changes in behavior will emerge within 2-3 generations.

At best, the nation breaks in two because the northerners don't seem like people who will ever be willing to shed their culture+religion and fully integrate.

These things can be done but we have old useless leaders with zero foresight.

BankeSmalls:


Sarrki is being beaten black and blue

Lol

davtosh:


All the three tribes u mentioned are yorubas. Are u really A Nigerian?

Except for The Eguns， They are definitely not Yoruba. Don't get it twisted am not saying they are not or won't be part of your Oduduwa. I am just stating the obvious.

Exciton:
Nigerians are foolish people. Still arguing in 2017 about whose tiny little inconsequential tribe is better. Religion and our various cultures distracts us from the real issues.

It's funny that some people think that breaking the nation into tiny little tribes will lead to success. Ethnic and religious issues will continue, but the difference is that each tiny little country will have it's own military inevitably leading to frequent small-scale wars. We'll all be back to pre-colonial era... constant inter-tribal war, no long-term peace, no political and economic stability; therefore, no growth and success!

There's a simpler way out. Dismantle the stranglehold of religion and create a new cultural identity. Culture is dynamic, not static. It has been done many times in history especially to nations on the losing end of a war. Intermarriages, migrations via economic development of new areas, common law for all, prioritizing scientific education etc. Huge changes in behavior will emerge within 2-3 generations.

At best, the nation breaks in two because the northerners don't seem like people who will ever be willing to shed their culture+religion and fully integrate.

These things can be done but we have old useless leaders with zero foresight.

Listen, Nigeria is an artificial creation and will never work until its forced inhabitants come together and draft a brand new constitution on the terms of engagement and nationhood. For now let's continue to pretend and beat around the bush.

For example, how would you feel if suddenly I forced you and your neighbors to live in one house without any mutual terms or agreements?

phreakabit:


Oh the ones that only have fish, not the ones with crude oil?

phreakabit:


Oh the ones that only have fish, not the ones with crude oil?

Hahahahahaha. Touche. Except if person dash me 5k this morning, you've made my morning.
I take it you're from the oil-speaking part of Ijawland then?

DieDieDieOmenka:

lol igbo is igbo there's nothing like Delta Igbo they're the ones to butcher you guys if you try to deny them their heritage.
see who's talking a minority in Delta talking do you know that igbos are majority in Delta so you see na suicide be that if urobo abi wetin wey no reach like one town in a typical igbo land you know you're blabbing.

Just like ijaw owns parts of ondo so do igbos owns larger parts in Delta and rivers

kiss the truth minority man
truth is talking
truth is mine

Abio, leave that boy alone, he gat to know nothing.

cheruv:
The name would be something like

ohaneze amaoha ala ofe mmanu (socialist republic of the oil soup land)

otuaku izoduwa (oduduwa commonwealth)

Fremancipation:


Listen, Nigeria is an artificial creation and will never work until its forced inhabitants come together and draft a brand new constitution on the terms of engagement and nationhood. For now let's continue to pretend and beat around the bush.

That's exactly why I said common laws for all.


Of course, our leaders are pretending that all is well and aren't doing anything because they only care about their immediate future. It's a common trait of unenlightened people. Otherwise, they'd already be doing the things I said.

Ugomba:
they should consult other non-yorubas like Eguns,Ilajes, Ijebus etc

::- Ijebus and Ilajes are yorubas. Thanks.

Exciton:


That's exactly why I said common laws for all.


Of course, our leaders are pretending that all is well and aren't doing anything because they only care about their immediate future. It's a common trait of unenlightened people. Otherwise, they'd already be doing the things I said.

Let's tell ourselves the honest brutal truth. The north controls 60% of the house of reps and the senate. They got this advantage through very rigged census aided intitially by the British. The only way for Nigeria not to break up is for them to give up and agrees to a complete and a total restructure of this shittyt country.

asuustrike2009:
If different group claim to break away,who will remain in Nigeria? Does the Niger deltans think urhobo,itsekiri would buy that idea of joining them whereas they quarrel on per billing? Why is Port Harcourt more developed than Warri if not for crisis?. The oduduwa group clamouring for break up ,where do you think you're going? Wouldn't it be funny when you all are stepping up borders? Biafra nkor are you all united? Don't you call ebonyi indigenes OSU? These issues can be resolved if the government of the day step in but no most Nigerians are gullible not to see the hand writing on the walls that same cabals in the previous government are still in this government.

oga stop dividing us abeg... Ebonyi is part of SE... Hear it clearly.. Nobody calls ebonyi state Osu... You people always like to see disunity in SE..... Just like someone said... The ebonyi governor is d leader of SE forum... And let me ask you.... If abia state was born from ebonyi state in 1990, why willl someone say ebonyi is not igbos when abian are igbos

You guys should think before typin stuffs.....

Let me just tell you how you know if people are divided... Go to their location in another mans land.. Lets say lagos... Go and see igbo communities there.. Those guys sre not near dovided and am a witness to that... So stop dividing us wit your mouth

Odkosh:
which gods are you talking about?, those useless gods that can't talk or do anything. this OSU is funny. gods my ass.

Afonja I won't throw words wid you

Amarabae:
Monoethnic country is the best.. thats the secret of europe.
Every tribe should fight for their own mono country if they want to leave Nigeria.
In monoethnic country, our children will learn science and technology in their native languages.

Very good suggestion, but unfortunately it's DOA. I'm not too sure the world is ready for another 200+ odd countries should Nigeria go 'monoethnic'.

why waste time
no grammar fit mend this broken relationship
by the day..it widens....

Guestlander:


Ilaje and Ijebu are not Yorubas right? How come Awolowo, an Ijebu man founded the Egbe Omo Oduduwa?

Egba Omo Oduduwa

[quote author=thuggCheetah post=54722137]I regret being yoruba[/quote

regretting being a Yorùbá at this stage means you will regret till end of your life.

bantudra:
the same message goes to ipob biafrans too...

una think the delta is divided and can be played anyhow...we deltans have leaders and elders too...

Who need u

Fremancipation:


Let's tell ourselves the honest brutal truth. The north controls 60% of the house of reps and the senate. They got this advantage through very rigged census aided intitially by the British. The only way for Nigeria not to break up is for them to give up and agrees to a complete and a total restructure of this shittyt country.

We're saying the same thing. Restructuring needed and the nation splits in two at most. But not into many tiny nations. That will be disastrous.

I don't think anyone is laying claim to Izon or Ijaw least the Yoruba. Some Ijaw are in Ondo State but have no land there. Just like Fulani, the Ijaw are migrants in many parts of southern Nigeria and there's no way they can proof the ownership of anywhere in Edo and Ondo state.
The coastal areas from Escravos Warri to Edo and Ondo state do not have any Izonland.
I do not think Yoruba want to claim Ijaw but has been affirming their kinsmen the Itsekiri.
This statement by the Ijaw is deliberate message to Itsekiri and Edo, trying to affirm ownership and I will advise that they perish the idea.

Now on a more pragmatic level, who really need who? Compare what ijaw have to the Yoruba in all ramifications, they are not mates;is it productive landmass good for agriculture, population with good purchasing power, educated population, already organized communities in terms of economic power, what are the ijaw fighting for?
1. Crude oil: The exclusive land area the ijaw can claim is Forcados to Bayelsa and maybe some areas of Kalabari in Rivers. They can make do with their resources and lets see how many decades it take them to be like the Yoruba or Igbo. Other ethnic groups have oil too, by the time your Nigeria is fully divided(I don't advocate for such) you will know that Yoruba and Igbo has oil than you can think. This is also applicable to natural gas.
2.Warri: Former oil capital of Nigeria, wealthy oil potentials and location of a refinery and proposed gas FTZ, the ijaw can't claim the one at Porthacourt and so looking at warri will to them be a good starting point. Now, if the Itsekiri should stand with Yoruba it will be zero probability of getting what they want. The Gelegele at Edo is slipping away already and consolidating through Toru-Ibe is a dead dream, the ijaw are led largely by youths who just want economic empowerment but with little grasp of history and diplomacy.

What options do they really have if they want an Ijaw country?
Live in peace with their neighbors, hold to those undisputed areas and trade away those disputed areas for strong economic and cultural ties because they can't win the Yoruba or the Edo in eventuality. They need to consolidate on their areas in Rivers and Beayelsa else they may be fighting battles against all their big neighbors and they can't win.
So, what would the Yoruba want from ijaw apart from oil, don't think there's anything and its not looking like Oduduwa will want to include the Ijaw even though historically the ijaw claim ife and, when the value of oil becomes less and less a driving force, the ijaw will see the light.
happy Sunday to all.
My take is let the Izon live in peace with all their neighbors, negotiate a confederation with any big side and you will win from both sides.

Chai

They really humilited we Yorubas on this thread

Litmus:
We should also discuss along what lines South Africa should break-up

Part of our national anthem-"And united we shall stand. Let us live & strive for freeeeeedom, in South Africa our laaaaaaand!"

Just focus on your tribal wars & your region. In SA it's never going to happen.

Exciton:
Nigerians are foolish people. Still arguing in 2017 about whose tiny little inconsequential tribe is better. Religion and our various cultures distracts us from the real issues.

It's funny that some people think that breaking the nation into tiny little tribes will lead to success. Ethnic and religious issues will continue, but the difference is that each tiny little country will have it's own military inevitably leading to frequent small-scale wars. We'll all be back to pre-colonial era... constant inter-tribal war, no long-term peace, no political and economic stability; therefore, no growth and success!

There's a simpler way out. Dismantle the stranglehold of religion and create a new cultural identity. Culture is dynamic, not static. It has been done many times in history especially to nations on the losing end of a war. Every little aspect of culture can be consciously modified, even up to the type of food a group of people consume. Intermarriages, migrations via economic development of new areas, common law for all, prioritizing scientific education etc. Huge changes in behavior will emerge within 2-3 generations.

At best, the nation breaks in two because the northerners don't seem like people who will ever be willing to shed their culture+religion and fully integrate.

These things can be done but we have old useless leaders with zero foresight.

What you wrote here my friend, is a load of unadulterated rubbish.

HiddenShadow:
Yorubas should be sure before including other ethnic groups into Oduduwa republic


They should review their map after consultations.

Abi, don't mind this people, they are trying to enrich their pockets.

Exciton:


We're saying the same thing. Restructuring needed and the nation splits in two at most. But not into many tiny nations. That will be disastrous.

So you want an ijaw man to be forced to eat amala and share his oil wealth with Yorubas?

BankeSmalls:


Am ashamed being yoruba too, same tribe as denrele?

U are definitely not Yoruba, and if u are;, i ain't rap with Omo'ale. So please chill off

afonjaheadhunt:
Alaye, listen up, I have 2 account one have been banned this is the other created yesterday because you called my attention to this thread to mock me and my people but that was your greatest un-doing because i am here now and all that have changed as you can see on the thread Ipob ti take over, so stay on topic and stop going off like a rabid dog.

Why are you so obsessed about me shouting afonja mumu are you afonja? No, mumu are your brothers not shouting Ipob youths? is afonja now a bad thing it is a proud yoruba history and yorubas have always stated to be proud being afonjas and fulani slaves, so how is it your problem.

you are not even yoruba to start with and even worse you are to ashamed to mention your clan, are you cursed? or you just dont have sense, the worst part is you will still quote me without proudly stating your clan.

Small time we go hear say Nigeria wan break out of Africa