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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On Mar 21, 2017
oyb:

do you approve of trump? do you think the 24 million americans about to lose their health insurance approve of trump? do you think people who grew up watching sesame street approve of trump? or the meals on wheels beneficiaries?


the only clear beneficiaries of trump today are the military industrial complex. which means another round of flip flopping [ wasnt it trump who was lambasting the f35 as wasteful?]

Do I approve of Trump NO. Did I vote for Trump NO, Neither did I vote Hillary. Obama said elections have consequences, If 24M people are going to lose their insurance then why Not? Trump won an election and he was very clear he will be scraping Obamacare which I personally think its a disaster.

Whoever approves of Trump doesnt matter what matters is that he won an election in America and whether you are for or against him you have to live with him and his policies


you guys [the conservatives, not the brainwashed wanna be white supremacist nutcases on this thread] are in a very interesting place.
you say you are not trump supporters, but you are clearly trump defenders

your party has been hijacked by white supremacists

Say what you will about the democrats and the DNC, they were able to contain bernie sanders. the republicans on the other hand allowed a lunatic and a band of nationalist racists to take it over.
The Republican have a transparent electoral system which wasnt rigged like the Democrats, and it produced Trump and we have to respect it, Maybe the Democratic party rigging out Bernie was the result they saw.

with everything that has happened what do you think america would look like in 4 years?
what will the effect of trumps 3 million dollar mars a lago weekends have on the national budget?

let me ask you - i know you are a very smart guy - are you sure you will still have a job in the us by 2020? it is crystal clear to you that trump is enabling hostility to all immigrants, not just muslims or mexicans.

you are a first generation immigrant in a red state - how long before the MAGAs start pointing at immigrants like you who have 'stolen' their jobs?
or are you quiety working a way to canada, one of the few western nations that is still immigrant friendly?

Look I live in America and majority of Americans are very good people maybe better than any country in the world, these people voted a black man TWICE over white contestants. They have their concerns which weren't addressed which is why Democrats went from majority in 2008 in all houses to minority everywhere. A few loonies on both sides doesn't change the fact that America is one of the best places to live for most people.

America as its built is bigger than any one person not even the president can change America.

Lindsey Graham and John McCain, Republicans like me have been the ones very vocal against Trump knocking him with logic and not with emotions

I have seen the democratic policies and to be honest its all bullshiit. from their social issues, to National security to entitlements, to everything
A bunch of whiners who live to get offended by anyone and everyone.

Anyone who oppose a Liberal is either racist, sexist, deplorable, uncle Tom or Aunt Jemimah,

Ask yourself why Democratic strongholds are shrinking daily? Leave Trump out of this, assuming Hilary won that will mean the only place Dems control is the presidency not Senate, Not congress, not governorships and you think that is because of racism?

As a smart guy think deep and not with emotions

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 5:35pm On Mar 21, 2017
LordReed:
Polls have never claimed to be 100% certain or right, if you took polling to mean that, then that's on you.

EDIT: Same way weather forecasts work. If it doesn't rain when it was forecasted to, do you go "oh I'm never believing the weather forecast again!"? Or do they sack the weatherman?

If 97 out of 100 weather men tell you that it will not rain and it did, then next time you still depend on him?

Who were they polling for 97% of pollsters to get it wrong. If the elections were held today, Trump will still win because the electorates no matter how you sneer at them have genuine concerns which the Democrats ignored for many yrs

The same polls who told you Hilary will be president is the same poll you are asking for presidents approval ratings?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 5:54pm On Mar 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


If 97 out of 100 weather men tell you that it will not rain and it did, then next time you still depend on him?

Who were they polling for 97% of pollsters to get it wrong. If the elections were held today, Trump will still win because the electorates no matter how you sneer at them have genuine concerns which the Democrats ignored for many yrs

The same polls who told you Hilary will be president is the same poll you are asking for presidents approval ratings?


The polls technically was right Hilary won the popular vote and lost the electoral college vote. Why the polls didn't predict accurately on a state by state level seems to be because they polled most likely to vote individuals and left out people who wouldn't were not likely to vote.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 6:04pm On Mar 21, 2017
vedaxcool:


The polls technically was right Hilary won the popular vote and lost the electoral college vote. Why the polls didn't predict accurately on a state by state level seems to be because they polled most likely to vote individuals and left out people who wouldn't were not likely to vote.

American electorates and pollsters know Popular votes is useless and no one bothers itself with popular votes when you know California and New York will vote democratic with their huge population

Minus the popular votes, Polls were done in individual states and the key swing states still showed it favoured Hilary, There were even concerns that Hilary might even beat Trump in traditional red states like Georgia, Arizona etc

Polling considered places like Winsconsin so safe that Hilary didnt even bother to campaign there. I am sure if Hilarry hears about polls she will vomit

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 6:11pm On Mar 21, 2017
grin grin funny but true.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is trying to flip the narrative of his ongoing ratings feud with President Donald Trump.

“Oh Donald — the ratings are in, and you got swamped,” the actor and former Governor of California said in a video posted to Twitter Tuesday morning. “Wow. Now you’re in the thirties?”


But what do you expect?” Schwarzenegger asked in the video. “I mean when you take away after school programs for children and meals on wheels for the poor people, that’s not what you call ‘making America great again.’ Come on.”

Hope our president is listening.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 6:18pm On Mar 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


If 97 out of 100 weather men tell you that it will not rain and it did, then next time you still depend on him?

Who were they polling for 97% of pollsters to get it wrong. If the elections were held today, Trump will still win because the electorates no matter how you sneer at them have genuine concerns which the Democrats ignored for many yrs

The same polls who told you Hilary will be president is the same poll you are asking for presidents approval ratings?


Why won't I depend on the weather service when I know they won't be 100%? If they say rain I carry my umbrella whether it rains or not. Same way polls should be taken, with a caveat in mind. If we were only concerned about the success rate of weather forecasts (under 70% for same day forecasts and under 40% for week long forecasts) the weather service would be out of business. Yet everyday people still look up the weather forecasts.

If you are understanding polls to be 100% accurate then may be you are looking for oracles not polls.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 6:19pm On Mar 21, 2017
armyofone:
grin grin funny but true.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is trying to flip the narrative of his ongoing ratings feud with President Donald Trump.

“Oh Donald — the ratings are in, and you got swamped,” the actor and former Governor of California said in a video posted to Twitter Tuesday morning. “Wow. Now you’re in the thirties?”


But what do you expect?” Schwarzenegger asked in the video. “I mean when you take away after school programs for children and meals on wheels for the poor people, that’s not what you call ‘making America great again.’ Come on.”

Hope our president is listening.

LoL, I need to watch that.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:29pm On Mar 21, 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/03/20/trump-wants-to-defund-pbs-sesame-street-brutally-parodied-him-for-decades/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_ae-trumppbs725p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Trump wants to defund PBS. ‘Sesame Street’ brutally parodied him for decades

Donald Trump Was Depicted as a Total Garbage Muppet On Sesame Street


You should know a couple of things before we embark on a recap of “Sesame Street’s” surprisingly vicious takedowns of Donald Trump, which span three decades leading up to his political rise.

First: Trump is most often depicted as a grouch — unpleasant monsters who base their culture and economy around garbage. So when “Donald Grump” appears in a 2005 episode as a badly toupeed muppet “whose name equals trash,” that’s not necessarily an insult.

The other thing is that Trump, as president of the United States, wants to end public television funding that created “Sesame Street” — more often known for lessons on counting and sharing than biting satire.

There are only three known episodes in which the character “Grump” appears, each time playing the villain in a moral allegory.

Whenever Grump visits Sesame Street, chaos is not far behind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FeyDm4vrFo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQyTpPu0gvc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7YMcqu4UQ

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by armyofone(m): 7:40pm On Mar 21, 2017
I love sesame Street grin
That lovely theme song....
No President Trump, don't touch that!!!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:11pm On Mar 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


America as its built is bigger than any one person not even the president can change America.


trump is already changing america.

the nature of a leader can make or break a country.

as a nigerian, you are keenly aware of this

some of our past leaders instituted a culture of corruption that is with us to this day. now, even though they are gone, the culture they nurtured and enabled remains

Shakespeare said the evil that men do lives on after them, but the good they do is buried with them.

the things trump is introducing and normalizing may not be so easily done away with.

germany did not become nazi germany in one day, but all it took was a 'transformational' leader.
before the revolution, iran was largely secular country. all it took was the ascension of hardline leaders and today Iran is an arch enemy of the us

in the office, i have lived through the nightmare of bad leadership , with leaders who turn the workplace to a toxic battlefield. even after the bad leaders are ousted, it takes years to return to a semblance of normalcy, and to restore the respect of your unit/department.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 8:26pm On Mar 21, 2017
oyb:
trump is already changing america.
the nature of a leader can make or break a country.
as a nigerian, you are keenly aware of this
some of our past leaders instituted a culture of corruption that is with us to this day. now, even though they are gone, the culture they nurtured and enabled remains

Shakespeare said the evil that men do lives on after them, but the good they do is buried with them.

the things trump is introducing and normalizing may not be so easily done away with.

germany did not become nazi germany in one day, but all it took was a 'transformational' leader.
before the revolution, iran was largely secular country. all it took was the ascension of hardline leaders and today Iran is an arch enemy of the us

in the office, i have lived through the nightmare of bad leadership , with leaders who turn the workplace to a toxic battlefield. even after the bad leaders are ousted, it takes years to return to a semblance of normalcy, and to restore the respect of your unit/department.

The beauty of American democracy is that it is rugged well thought out and no single person can destroy it. There are 3 arms of govt

The court have stopped Trump multiple times, will a court be able to stop a president in Nigeria. America as a country is good at heart, How many countries of the world will you get what you have in everyday America

The thing about Democrats is they live in hysteria, they are fond of crying wolf everytime when the real wolf came no one believed them again. They gave birth to this culture of defiance and now apathy by the American populace towards liberals. The same people who were ready to vote a Black man twice were called racists because they disagreed on policies and principles and not vote a white woman.

Everyone who disagreed with Liberals was given a tag at a time the tags became meaningless and even emboldened the extremists

They told us Bush was the worst person ever, later told us McCain was the worst person ever, later told us Romney was the worst person ever, they succeeded in destroying and pulling down the alternatives to Trump. Jake Tapper of CNN admitted last Friday that CNN gave a disproportionate amount of time celebrating Trump before the Republican primary

When you blacklist moderate republicans then you deal with people like Trump and Sessions.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 9:13pm On Mar 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


American electorates and pollsters know Popular votes is useless and no one bothers itself with popular votes when you know California and New York will vote democratic with their huge population

Minus the popular votes, Polls were done in individual states and the key swing states still showed it favoured Hilary, There were even concerns that Hilary might even beat Trump in traditional red states like Georgia, Arizona etc

Polling considered places like Winsconsin so safe that Hilary didnt even bother to campaign there. I am sure if Hilarry hears about polls she will vomit

But the polls got the popular votes right. And like I said one of the reasons the polls got some state wrong was because they focus mostly on likely voters rather than the less likely voters.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Mar 21, 2017
vedaxcool:


But the polls got the popular votes right. And like I said one of the reasons the polls got some state wrong was because they focus mostly on likely voters rather than the less likely voters.

Any poll predicting popular votes isnt worth the paper wrtitten on nor worth the time to read it. Its like predicting an irrelevant poll. Popular votes mean nothing in American election

If you are voting on likely voters vs less likely voter now tell me if you deserve your salary? Anyone can sit down in their house and predict any Bullcrap out of their asss
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:27pm On Mar 21, 2017
armyofone:
I love sesame Street grin
That lovely theme song....
No President Trump, don't touch that!!!
To the children of America, trump is the Grinch that stole Christmas. I grew up on Sesame Street with millions of children in America and the heart less Tramp wants to cut Sesame Street. With his crazy budget proposal that will increase the Defense budget by $54 billion which the military don't even ask for. Cutting funding for NIH, food on wheels and so many programs that helps the elderly and the sick to fund the department of war. What a big scam trump is.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 9:41pm On Mar 21, 2017
raumdeuter:


Any poll predicting popular votes isnt worth the paper wrtitten on nor worth the time to read it. Its like predicting an irrelevant poll. Popular votes mean nothing in American election

If you are voting on likely voters vs less likely voter now tell me if you deserve your salary? Anyone can sit down in their house and predict any Bullcrap out of their asss

But the polls were accurate in that regards whether they are uselsss or not is not the issue we are talking of accuracy.
Like I said polls are simple if you focus on likely voters and there is a surge in unlikely voters voting the polls will be inaccurate. And please when the polls were predicting trump will win in the primaries they were false right? The problem with you is your false assumption that a poll being wrong in one regards means it will be wrong in all regards. That simply is far from the truth. Pollsters will learn from their errors and improve accuracy using your personal opinion to determine whether trump is popular won't cut it as we can clearly see he didn't win the popular vote and this is enough to conclude he won't be popular.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 10:12pm On Mar 21, 2017
vedaxcool:


But the polls were accurate in that regards whether they are uselsss or not is not the issue we are talking of accuracy.
Like I said polls are simple if you focus on likely voters and there is a surge in unlikely voters voting the polls will be inaccurate. And please when the polls were predicting trump will win in the primaries they were false right? The problem with you is your false assumption that a poll being wrong in one regards means it will be wrong in all regards. That simply is far from the truth. Pollsters will learn from their errors and improve accuracy using your personal opinion to determine whether trump is popular won't cut it as we can clearly see he didn't win the popular vote and this is enough to conclude he won't be popular.

In the primaries the polls and analysts predicted Trump will fall off and wont even get to the convention. They predicted he wont survive Super Tuesday and he surpassed everyone of their analysis

So if you predict and fail with such consistency why should anyone take you serious
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:54am On Mar 22, 2017
And more Russians:

FBI wiretapped Russian gambling ring headquarted at Trump Tower

The Feds were monitoring Russian activity at Trump Tower — but it was years before President Trump ever ran for office.

The FBI had a court-sanctioned warrant from 2011 to 2013 to monitor a Russian crime organization working out of a unit three floors below President Trump’s penthouse, according to an ABC News report.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Timbuktuo: 10:49am On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:


I am sure if Hilarry hears about polls she will vomit

grin grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by crisisexpert321(m): 11:22am On Mar 22, 2017
Trump is a champ. Find political expert here 08076750300.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 1:37pm On Mar 22, 2017
Maxine Waters is a couple of French Fries short of a Happy Meal
Embedded



He [Trump] is wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to invade KOREA" ~ Maxine Waters on reason for Impeachment. What?

grin That bitchh is crazy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 3:14pm On Mar 22, 2017
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 3:22pm On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:


In the primaries the polls and analysts predicted Trump will fall off and wont even get to the convention. They predicted he wont survive Super Tuesday and he surpassed everyone of their analysis

So if you predict and fail with such consistency why should anyone take you serious
You speak/comment with a clear mind, good analysis from you...They are still relying on the pollsters that rigged d poles? unbelievable! Why would anyone trust them when for the past 18 months plus they gave Hillary Double digit leads with high percentage chances of winning? They say he (President) has 37% approval rating, hahahaha..only Libtards would hold on to that like their lives depend on it. Any number that supposedly goes negative on Trump is their favourite headline, same thing with the MSM.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:30pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordReed:
And more Russians:

FBI wiretapped Russian gambling ring headquarted at Trump Tower

The Feds were monitoring Russian activity at Trump Tower — but it was years before President Trump ever ran for office.

The FBI had a court-sanctioned warrant from 2011 to 2013 to monitor a Russian crime organization working out of a unit three floors below President Trump’s penthouse, according to an ABC News report.

Curiouser and curiouser.
LordReed, the Russiagate is not going anywhere. It's going to be the death kneel for trump. It's getting worse by the day and there's tremendous amount of pressure on Director Comey now since he went public about the investigation couple days ago. The investigative press and journalists are not going to be cowered by trump's vulgarity and tweets. Nixon set his attack dogs out to malign the press and the American people during the Watergate and we all knew how that ended. I will keep on saying trump is the worst president in recent American history and he will go down in shame like Nixon.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:43pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordReed:
This is so funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWFMnnKRC0k
Really funny indeed. Campaigning while he hasn't done anything tangible for the people that elected him. With his new healthcare that he's supporting with Speaker Ryan, trump Appalichians supporters will suffer the most because they are the ones with black lungs from working in the coal mines. Their substitute for ACA is even worse than the obamacare they want to get rid. I hope they suffer more because of their ignorance.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 4:07pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordReed:
And more Russians:

FBI wiretapped Russian gambling ring headquarted at Trump Tower

The Feds were monitoring Russian activity at Trump Tower — but it was years before President Trump ever ran for office.

The FBI had a court-sanctioned warrant from 2011 to 2013 to monitor a Russian crime organization working out of a unit three floors below President Trump’s penthouse, according to an ABC News report.

Curiouser and curiouser.
So since they have been monitoring, What have they found so far? This investigation will run its full course but I bet nothing would come out of it because it's all a hoax and a smokescreen used by the Democrats to cover for their failing Party.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:31pm On Mar 22, 2017
obixcel:
So since they have been monitoring, What have they found so far? This investigation will run its full course but I bet nothing would come out of it because it's all a hoax and a smokescreen used by the Democrats to cover for their failing Party.
Go and tell Mike Flyn who lost his job at the White House what they find. It's just the beginning according to Director Comey. I know you are a rookie in American politics so you don't know that is the same way watergate started. The noose is tightening against trump and people like Paul Manafort, Jeff Stone and co will be singing soon. Americans don't take a fall for anyone not even for a president.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 5:52pm On Mar 22, 2017
obixcel:
So since they have been monitoring, What have they found so far? This investigation will run its full course but I bet nothing would come out of it because it's all a hoax and a smokescreen used by the Democrats to cover for their failing Party.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 5:53pm On Mar 22, 2017
Lucasbalo:
LordReed, the Russiagate is not going anywhere. It's going to be the death kneel for trump. It's getting worse by the day and there's tremendous amount of pressure on Director Comey now since he went public about the investigation couple days ago. The investigative press and journalists are not going to be cowered by trump's vulgarity and tweets. Nixon set his attack dogs out to malign the press and the American people during the Watergate and we all knew how that ended. I will keep on saying trump is the worst president in recent American history and he will go down in shame like Nixon.

I really hope this thing rides out to the end.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 8:11pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordReed:


I really hope this thing rides out to the end.
Amen to that. Director Comey is on the crosshair of American people and River Rubicon has been crossed.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:57pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordReed:
This is so funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWFMnnKRC0k

i guess trump sees the whole thing as some sort of sport event where the end game is victory over your opponent.

which is why he has been unable to get down to actual governing and spends all his time trash talking

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:12pm On Mar 22, 2017
oyb:


i guess trump sees the whole thing as some sort of sport event where the end game is victory over your opponent.

which is why he has been unable to get down to actual governing and spends all his time trash talking
I have never seen a President campaigning after getting elected. Trump is a deer caught in a light. The real power behind the throne is that racist Chief Counselor of his by name Stephen Bannon. With people like that pulling his strings, he's doomed.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 9:25pm On Mar 22, 2017
What did they all have in common Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Jeff Sessions, Roger Stones and Carter Page. They are trump Russia evil dealing losers.

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