pazienza:
In addition to the litigation angle to the
establishment of AAU, the chronological defect of
your account of the founding and establishing of
ESUTECH punctured your lie. How could a school
be founded in 1980 and then established in 1979?
Was time counting backwards then? You have
refused to answer how it was possible for the
Anambra Government which got sworn in on
October 1 1979 to have gone through all the
numerous rigours involved in preparation of a bill,
sponsoring same and signing it into law all within
less than three months before Jan 1 1980.

You being silly and trying to save face.

Until now, you are yet to provide any links other than a speech by an Igbo man in a newspaper to support your claim of AAU being the first state University in Nigeria.

I had since provided genuine sources from ESUT official website, which affirmed the school as the first state University http://www.esut.edu.ng/

And a link from AAU official website : https://www.aauekpoma.edu.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103&Itemid=172

All you have so far is your schizophrenic mis representations and delusional bending of facts.

You are shameless.

Thank God it was an Igbo man like you that created the link which I referenced. And you have been jumping from tree to tree like a monkey in your attempt to separate Ekweme from Igbos for the litigation.
The chronological illogicality of the ESUTECH website kills its own claim. The three month legislative procedure impossibility buries it completely.

pazienza:
Zik introduced tribal politics in 1938 when he pulled
out of NYM on account of his candidate's loss of
the movement's chairmanship.
What Awolowo fought against in 1951 was inter-
regional intrusion. His Outburst that "It would
appear that the god of Igbos had placed Nigeria's
destiny in Igbos' hands" Was also another tribal
slur that preceeded the 1951 saga. Moreover Zik
never actually won that election. Only the usual
Igbo propaganda machine held out this lie for
decades. The stats are available and I will post it
soon.


In what planet could Zik had introduced tribal politics in Nigeria, when his candidate in the 1938 NYM election was not an Igbo, but a Yoruba in the person of Samuel Akinsanya!
How exactly could Zik supporting a Yoruba candidate be the cause of the Yoruba- Igbo rift that Awo introduced to win the 1951 elections?
What Awo fought in 1951 was inter tribal intrusions.
Moreover, nothing in Zik speech was tribal or indicative of desire to subjugate any other group. It was at best, self praise, which is expected seeing as he was addressing an Igbo gathering.

Why even say such at all knowing fully well that journalist were recording and would definitely report it in national dalies for public consumption?
It is like saying Ahmadu Bello's born to rule chants were not meant to subjugate anyone.
It is as well like arguing that Buhari's dog and baboon proverb was not inimical to peace since he rendered it in Hausa language to BBC thus addressing only his own people.

The Truth Of The Western Region Assembly Cross-carpeting Accusation.

First Nigeria Regional Elections:
Western Nigeria 1951 Elections
Matthew Mbu and history:
Ambassador Mathew Mbu is a well-
respected Nigerian. But in this piece,
veteran journalist, Mr Felix Adenaike
challenges some of his claims about
Nigeria's past 'Falsehood may have
its hour, but it has no future' -
Francois D. Pressense
In what seemed his 48th
independence anniversary gift to
Nigerians, Dr. Matthew Tawo Mbu,
politician, lawyer and diplomat, gave
The Nation an interview run in its
October 1 edition addressing some
political issues in Nigeria of which he
had been a key player. Among
others, he spoke on the Western
Nigeria election held in 1951, two
generations ago, and repeated the
claim of the National Council of
Nigeria and the Cameroon (NCNC)
that it won that poll, but had been
robbed of victory. Then as now, Dr.
Mbu did not provide any evidence to
substantiate the NCNC claim.
Dr. Mbu said of that election held on
24 September 1951 that: "Dr.
Nnamdi Azikiwe was betrayed by the
Western Region of Nigeria, not by
the electorate, but by the leaders.
The NCNC won the election against
the Action Group (led by Chief
Obafemi Awolowo), but the Action
Group introduced what was
unknown to Nigerian history",
namely, "carpet crossing. They
Action Group bought members of
the NCNC to join the Action Group
after these people had won election
on the platform of the NCNC. Zik, the
leader of a majority party in the
Western Region became the Leader
of Opposition overnight".
Reminded by the interviewer that the
late Chief AMA Akinloye had
maintained in his lifetime that he
and his group had contested the
election on a neutral platform from
the NCNC, Dr. Mbu said: "That is his
version. He is entitled to say what he
wants to say. I don't want to say ill of
the dead. He knew he was NCNC and
his group was NCNC. Adelabu
remained NCNC. He stuck on to
NCNC till he died".
The late Dr. Kingsley Ozumba
Mbadiwe said in his autobiography,
Rebirth of a nation, among others
that: "But in pursuance of the policy
of creating a political climate healthy
enough to make one a citizen
wherever he lived, Dr. Azikiwe
contested and won the general
elections in 1951 into the Western
House of Assembly. To stultify this
policy of one Nigeria in favour of his
tribally-based philosophy, Chief
Awolowo got some elected members
to cross carpet from the NCNC to his
AG side. Zik the victor lost. And
Awolowo's party was able to form the
government of the Western Region."
At a news conference in Lagos on 20
September 1989, more than two
years after Chief Awolowo's death,
Dr. Mbadiwe returned to the topic
saying: "Dr. Azikiwe and his party
won the majority of seats in the
Western House of Assembly. He was
due to be elected the Leader of
Government Business, when
overnight, the Action Group
introduced the notorious carpet-
crossing. By this manipulation,
members who won under the NCNC
crossed over to the Action Group
building it to become the majority
party in the West. As a result of this,
Chief Awolowo was elected Leader of
Government Business and Dr.
Azikiwe had to resign."
Neither Dr. Mbu nor Dr. Mbadiwe
named the members of the NCNC
who contested the election on the
party's platform and later joined the
Action Group to enable Chief
Awolowo form the government to
the exclusion of Dr. Azikiwe. These
are weighty allegations such that
they would have assisted their
readers to clear the issues rather just
repeat their own version of the
events at that time in the hope that
such repetition would turn
falsehood into facts.
To avert conflicting claims over
candidates, Mr. Harold Cooper, the
Government Public Relations Officer,
wrote to the parties to furnish a list
of the candidates contesting election
on their platforms. Only the Action
Group complied with this request
and its list of candidates was as
follows:
1. Ijebu Remo Division - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole;
2. Ijebu Ode Division - S.O. Awokoya,
Rev. S.A. Banjo and V.D. Phillips;
3. Oyo Division - Chief Bode Thomas,
Abiodun Akerele, A.B.P. Martins, T.A.
Amao and SB Eyitayo;
4. Osun Division - SL Akintola, JO. Adigun, JO Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A.
Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola;
5. Ondo Division - P.A. Ladapo and G.A. Deko;
6. Okitipupa Division - Dr. L.B. Lebi, CA
Tewe and SO Tubo;
7. Epe Division - SL Edu, AB Gbajumo, Obafemi Ajayi and
C.A. Williams;
8. Ikeja Division - O. Akeredolu-Ale, SO Gbadamosi and FO
Okuntola;
9. Badagry Division - Chief
CD Akran, Akinyemi Amosu and Rev.
GM Fisher;
10. Egba Division - J.F.
Odunjo, Alhaji A.T. Ahmed, CPA Cole,
Rev S.A. Daramola, Akintoye Tejuoso,
SB Sobande, IO Delano and A
Adedamola.
The others were as follows:
11. Egbado Division - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A.
Fafunmi, Adebiyi Adejumo, A. Akin
Illo and P.O. Otegbeye;
12. Ife Division -
Rev S.A. Adeyefa, D.A. Ademiluyi, J.O.
Opadina, and S.O. Olagbaju;
13. Ekiti Division - E.A. Babalola, Rev. J Ade
Ajayi, S.K. Familoni, S.A. Okeya and D
Atolagbe;
14. Owo Division - Michael
Adekunle Ajasin, A.O. Ogedengbe, JA
Agunloye, LO Omojola and R.A.
Olusa;
15. Western Ijaw Division - Pere
EH Sapre-Obi and MF Agidee;
16. Ishan Division - Anthony Enahoro;
17. Urhobo Division - WE Mowarin, J.B. Ohwinbiri
and JD Ifode;
18.Warri Division - Arthur
Prest and O. Otere, and
19. Kukuruku Division - D.J.I. Igenuma.
Of the names on the list, only MA
Ajasin from Owo Division, which
comprised Akoko then, did not run
because of party solidarity and unity
in Owo. He stood down for A.O.
Ogedengbe and R.A. Olusa to contest
two of the three seats, which they
won, while D.K. Olumofin won the
third for the NCNC.
Three secretaries of the Action Group, who ran as independents and won were:
1. Egba Division- Alhaji D.S. Adegbenro
2. Ekiti Division - J.O. Osuntokun, and
3. Epe Division - S.O. Hassan.
At the close of polls on 24 September
1951, the Action Group had won 38
of the 72 seats in contention out of the total of 80 in the Regional Assembly. The shortfall was due to the fact that elections had been postponed in Lagos and Benin due to security concerns. Lagos had five seats in the West Regional Assembly all later won by the NCNC in the election of 20 November 1951, while Benin had three all later won by Otu Edo candidates in the election of 6 December 1951.
Of the 68 candidates on the list furnished by the Action Group to the Government PR
Department, 38 of the elected AG
members were from that list, and were as follows:
1. Ijebu Remo - Obafemi Awolowo and M.S. Sowole;
2. Ijebu Ode - Rev. SA Banjo and S.O. Awokoya;
3. Oyo - Bode Thomas,
Abiodun Akerele, ABP Thomas, TA Amao and SB Eyitayo;
4. Osun - S.L. Akintola, J.O. Adigun, JA Oroge, S.I. Ogunwale, I.A. Adejare, J.A.
Ogunmuyiwa and S.O. Ola.
Other elected AG members from the
list were:
5. Egba - J.F. Odunjo, Alhaji
AT Ahmed, Rev. S.A. Daramola and
Prince Adedamola;
6. Egbado (now Yewa) - J.A.O. Odebiyi, D.A. Fafunmi and A. Akin Illo;
7. Ekiti - E.A. Babalola
and Rev. J. Ade-Ajayi; Badagry - Chief
CD Akran and Rev. G.M. Fisher;
8. Ikeja - SO Gbadamosi and O Akeredolu-
Ale;
9. Ife - Rev. SA Adeyefa and SO Olagbaju;
10. Owo - AO Ogedengbe and RA Olusa;
11. Epe - Safi Lawal Edu;
12. Okitipupa - C.A. Tewe;
13. Western Ijaw - M.F. Agidee;
14. Ishan - Anthony Enahoro, and
15. Warri - Arthur Prest.
In addition to the Action Group and
the NCNC, there were local/divisional
parties such as the Ibadan People's
Party (IPP), led by Chief AMA
Akinloye; Ondo Improvement
League, and Otu Edo of Benin. At the
end of poll, the standing of the
parties was as follows:
1. Action Group - 38;
2. NCNC and its loyal Independents - 25;
3. IPP - 6
4. Ondo Improvement League - 2.
5. Otu Edo candidates won the three
Benin seats, namely, Chief SO
Ighodaro, Chief Humphrey Omo-
Osagie and Chief Chike Ekwuyasi.
Chief Ighodaro opted for the AG,
while the latter two went to the
NCNC. And of the six IPP elected
members, only Adegoke Adelabu
joined the NCNC. The rest of them:
AMA Akinloye, Chief DT Akinbiyi
(who later became the Olubadan of
Ibadan), Chief SO Lanlehin,
Moyosore Aboderin and SA
Akinyemi, opted for the Action
Group. The NCNC National Secretary,
the late Chief Kola Balogun had sent
declaration forms to the IPP
assemblymen asking them to declare
for the NCNC but Chief Akinloye
returned all the forms uncompleted.
The three AG secretaries who had
run as independents - Adegbenro,
Osuntokun and Hassan, five IPP
members, one Etu Edo, and one
Ondo Improvement League, Chief
F.O. Awosika; and Chief Timothy
Adeola Odutola (Independent, Ijebu
Ode) had swollen the number of the
AG elected members. All the
transactions had taken place before
the inauguration of the Regional
Assembly on 7 January 1952. These
were not known members of the
NCNC, nor did the party publish their
names on the list of its candidates,
but claimed them as its "members,
supporters or sympathisers",
according to inimitable Zik in his My
Odyssey, " It takes more than
speculation to claim a person as a
member of your political party". You
cannot just be under the
"impression" as Zik had claimed that
they were and go ahead to field them
as electoral candidates.
For over a
half century, the NCNC is yet to
provide evidence to back its claim
that it had won the West Regional
election in 1951.
Mr Cooper absolved his department
of responsibility for the controversy
generated by the NCNC after the
election. At a post election news
conference in Lagos he said that "Of
the winning candidates, the names
of 38 were on the list sent to me by
the Action Group. The six successful
candidates at Ibadan were all among
those who had been identified to me
as representing the Ibadan People's
Party. No claim of any kind had
reached us about the party affiliation
of the remaining successful
candidates." Why did the NCNC not
send a list of its candidates for the
poll to the Government PR
Department before that poll? And
why have Dr. Mbu and the others not
published the list of NCNC
candidates to substantiate their
electoral victory claim in over 50
years but merely kept reaping false
claims? The records of the poll
conducted in the West and all over
Nigeria by the colonial administration are available at the National Archives and can be accessed by any honest researcher.
In this matter, it is facts that speak,
not what some political/ethnic
partisan said or did not say.
Dr Azikiwe's frustration was not only
in losing the regional election, he
also lost the election to the House of
Representatives held on 10 January
1951 at the House of Assembly, Ibadan, among NCNC members. The total tally for the 1951 poll in the 80 member Western Regional Assembly was as follows:
1. Action Group - 38;
2. Independent/AG - 15;
3. NCNC - 24;
4. Independent/NCNC - 3.
Three
members of the NCNC who had been
elected to the House changed party
allegiance that day ahead of the
House of Representatives vote. They
were: Chief SY Kesington-Momoh, JG
Ako, and Awodi Orisaremi, from
Urhobo and Kukuruku Divisions.
They were running for the House of
Representatives and wanted Action
Group votes. Kesington-Momoh and
Ako were elected, but Orisaremi went
back to the NCNC. That was all the
carpet-crossing that took place on 10
January 1952, namely, three at first
to the AG and one back to the NCNC.
From the vote tally, it is clear that the
NCNC and the Independent /NCNC
totalling 27 seats altogether out of
80 seats could not have formed the
Government of Western Nigeria.
Even if the local/divisional parties
had chosen the NCNC, it would still
be some seats short of 41 required to
form the government. The Action
Group won 38 seats; its independent
candidates - Adegbenro, Osuntokun,
Hassan and Odutola won four seats
making a total of 42 seats. The AG
could have formed the government
without the support of the other
small parties. It did not have to
"bribe" anybody to join it to form the
government. Since politics is a game
of number, only few principled
politicians would not be disposed to
joining the winning party, in this
case, the AG.
Dr. Mbadiwe also claimed in his
book: "Successful NCNC men who
were not Yoruba were scared away.
Dr. Azikiwe who won a seat to the
Western House (of) Assembly from a
Lagos constituency decided to resign.
Since membership of the House of
Representatives was by an electoral
college in the regional house, no
NCNC from the West came to the
House of Representatives in Lagos".
This is blatantly false. Zik resigned
because he lost election to the
federal house from the West, while
Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, Dr. Ibiyinka
Olorun-Nimbe, Chief Frank Oputa-
Otutu, Chief Denis Osadebey and Sir
Odeleye Fadahunsi were elected
from Ibadan to Lagos. Who ever
scared non-Yoruba NCNC people
from the West? Chief Denis
Osadebey succeeded Adegoke
Adelabu as Opposition Leader in the
West and the likes of Humphrey
Omo-Osagie, Festus Okotie-Eboh,
Chike Ekwuyasi, Fidelis H Utomi, Obi
Osagie, Yamu Numa, GO Oweh and
GB Ometan were non-Yoruba NCNC
in that Assembly.
As Mme De Stael says: The "search
for the truth is the noblest
occupation of man; its publication is
a duty". Dr. Mbu and his political
entourage have chosen their own
side of history. It remains to be seen
whether or not history will absolve
them. Their contemporary audience
is composed of intelligent people
who will search after the truth
without inheriting the political
prejudice and stereotype of their
lying grand-parents. That is the way
ahead for Nigeria. And "the greatest
friend of truth is time; her greatest
enemy is prejudice". - CC Calton

And come to really think of it:
What programmes or good governance did Zik think he had in stall for the Western Region which his own Eastern Region was not more in need of? Why did he not want to govern his own people? Were they ungovernable? After all there were already issues of the Eastern Region's relative neglect by the colonial authorities as of then.
Why did he not begin his charity from home? Any charity which does not start from home is a huge fraud and a Trojan Horse.
It is sad to note that today's Benue, Kogi East Senatorial District and parts of Taraba were all part of the Eastern side of the Southern Protectorate as at 1900 thus giving the South a huger population enhanced bargaining power over the North, but that while those boundaries were being gerrymandered by Bello and the imperialists towards getting those places into the already too large Northern Region, the Zik who was supposed to be in Enugu leading the resistance to that move was actually far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo for the soul of the Western Region and later crying that Awolowo deployed tribalism to rob him despite being untrue. Meanwhile Awolowo secured the Western Region strongly and was leading irredentist movements to get Kwara back into the Western Region. And an ignorant Biafra is here regurgitation lies of Awolowo cheating Zik with tribalism.

Even if Zik had made a Fulani man the mayor of Enugu, common sense dictated that he should have moved up North to seek premiership of the North as reward rather than westwards. He wanted Peter to reward him for the favor he did to Paul. Asinine!

[b] The difference between Zik's and Igbos' initial
derive to preserve Nigeria and that of the Scottish
King's drive to preserve Britain was that while
those who initially sought to preserve Britain did so
based on genuine on-ground evidence of hopes as
to the workability of UK, Zik and Igbos sought to
preserve Nigeria right in the face of preponderance
of evidence to Nigeria's non-workability. Secondly,
despite how genuinely hopeful they were of its
workabiltiy, the founders of UK unanimously
allowed for a constitutional provision for exit just
in case of later dissatisfaction in any quarters. But
in Nigeria Zik and Igbos made demons out of those
who moved motions for such exit provisions, with
Ironsi and Ojukwu later promulgating Anti-
secession Decree. Ojukwu nearly killed Isaac Boro
for daring to pull out of Nigeria. Ironically the
same Ojukwu in less than 15 months later declared
to pull out of the same Nigeria? What really
changed other than power possession which
slipped off Igbos' hands on account of Ironsi's
ouster? Suffice it to say therefore that had power
remained in the hands of Middle Easterners they
would never have later come to find Nigeria
distasteful, thus secessionist movements would
have been alien to them. This is why anyone who
compares UK with Nigeria is an uninformed victim
of moronic plague.
Those who deny others freedom don't deserve it
themselves.......... Abraham Lincoln. [/b]


There is nothing whatsoever to show that Zik desire to preserve one Nigeria wasn't based on blind patriotism and pan Africanism. He was born in the North, lived in the West and originated from the East. He genuinely saw Nigeria as one entity.
Nothing on ground showed that Nigeria was beyond salvaging in the years pre Civil war.

Nope. Non of the 21 articles of the treaty of union in 1707 made mention of secession clause.

Which was why the Scottish parliament propounded the Scottish independence referendums Bill in 2013.
Which England endorsed. The laws are made for men, not men for the law.

Also, there was no secession clause in the formation of malay federation, yet it never stopped Singapore from leaving the federation.
Look at what Lord Lansdowne had to say on the secession clause ish:

“… any State voluntarily entering a federation had
an intrinsic right to secede at will, and that it was,
therefore, unnecessary to include it in the
Constitution.”
~ Lord Lansdowne

So this secession clause blackmail by Edo and Yoruba Igbophobic beings aimed at blackmailing Ndiigbo into a failed Colonial union is a non starter.

Zik never made demons out of Awo or the North that wanted secession clause inserted then, he simply was a better intellectual and presented a better argument for unity of the union. Nevertheless, he was only one person with no army to command, nothing stopped Awolowo or the North from secession, I mean, who would have held them back?

Ironsi and Ojukwu protected the integrity of the Eastern region. Adaka Boro was not asking for referendum, he was asking for outright secession with his band of freedom fighters, at a time leaders of Ijaw like Opigo were with Ojukwu.
Biafra movement had Igbo, Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio elements to it, so it wasn't just an Igbo movement, and Ojukwu was open to a UN supervised referendum in all Biafran territory including non Igbo ones, an option Gowon declined.

"The unprecedented mingling of all groups and
settling of many minority people in the Ibo
heartland during the course of the war was simply
taken for granted. Nonetheless, the Biafran regime
was unreservedly committed to plebiscites in any
disputed areas within Biafra, or on borders, so
that people involved could determine their
allegiance. It was proposed that these plebiscites
be conducted under international( UN or
O.A.U)supervision, and with adequate safeguard
against punitive retaliation
The federal government rejected the plebiscite
proposal, obviously because it implied the
recognition of Biafra and the substitution of a
democratic vote for force of arms. Had the
plebiscite been held, a ceasefire would have had
to be declared, neutral observers would have been
on scene, and the secession would have been
revealed as a people's movement". The New York
Review of Books, Volume 14, Number 8. April
23,1970.

"In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on
the background, cause and consequences of the
Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by
more than sixty British subjects, including Sir
Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the
Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of
the 37 percent of the population which they
estimated that minority group represented in
Biafra, only 10% would favour continued
association with the federal government". The.
New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8.
April 23, 1970

Deadlytruth:

Why even say such at all knowing fully well that journalist were recording and would definitely report it in national dalies for public consumption?
It is like saying Ahmadu Bello's born to rule chants were not meant to subjugate anyone.
It is as well like arguing that Buhari's dog and baboon proverb was not inimical to peace since he rendered it in Hausa language to BBC thus addressing only his own people.

Ahmadu Bello born to rule rhetorics was tribal because it was aimed at subjugation of other groups, Zik speech was not but mere praise meant to
inspire group pride and confidence on his Igbo audience, he never talked about subjugating any Nigerian group with force.

Even assuming that Awolowo offended him, was he
supposed to retaliate through a means which he
knew would endanger the future liberty of all
southerners from the born-to-rule Northern
Oligarchy? Why not have patiently waited for a
revenge opportunity that would punish Awolowo
and Awolowo alone without collateral damage to
innocent southerners including his own brothers?
Was that a manifestation of good sense of
judgement on Zik's path?
Zik and Balewa were first to usurp Awolowo's
Western Region's powers by first reinstating
Akintola without elections as directed by the
Western Region's constitution, and secondly by
disobeying the Privy Council's verdict which sacked
Akintola afterwards. Awolowo only resorted to self
help as a result of the anarchy and bad example
set by the evil Balewa-Zik coalition. That was why
Zik made it into Nzeogwu's hit list and Awolowo
did not.

There was no retaliation on Zik part, after all, Zik would still go into alliance with Awo AG subsequently when Zik was sure that Awolowo wasn't going to leave him for the lurch by going behind to seal a deal with the North.

Awolowo was proposing a posibble union between AG and NCNC in 1959 when he Awolowo was also secretly working for a possible deal with Balewa, this was similar to the game he played between Gowon and Ojukwu.

No. Awolowo greed and lust for power was what set the Western region ablaze, rather than treat Akintola as a political heir, like Zik saw Okpara, Awo saw Akintola as a political enemy and set the tone for the crisis that took place in the West. Akintola needed Balewa help to neutralize Awolowo, it had nothing to do with Zik.

Awolowo was also found guilty of financial misappropriations and treasonable felony by Coker's commision and rightly jailed. He was the architect of his downfall, his leadership failure alienated Akintola, forcing Akintola to seek Northern Help in dealing with Awolowo, yet the North couldn't deal with Awolowo if he was innocent.
Trying to pin Awolowo self inflicted misfortunes on Zik and Ndiigbo is at best demonic.

Deadlytruth:


You can cry me river for all I care. The SS has come to stay. The Bini and Ijaws issue on Gele gele is just a normal minor disagreement expected of any close neighbours. It is being handled legally and not with weapons. Whoever loses will accept the Supreme Court's verdict in good faith.

Your preposterous logic is always astonishing. How does intermarriage of Igbos with Ibibios and Annangs define closer ties with them? So Igbos who are married to Yorubas have automatically made the two tribes more related? Anenih's wife is an Igbo woman. SLS had affairs with Aruma Oteh which produced children. Does that suggest that Igbos have become related to Fulanis? Stella Oduah is married to Engr. Chris Ogiemwonyi from Edo State. Does that confer any closeness of blood between Binis and Igbos? You are so driven by desperation that you can latch onto any logic to make a senseless point.

SS is but a artificial creation that is not even backed by the Nigerian constitution. Yes it has come to stay, but it's only moronic to think that Edo has more deeper relationship with Cross Rivers or Akwa Ibom than SE who have been co inhabiting with those groups for centuries just because Edo was added to SS, or that Edo now has more connection with the people of Rivers state than Abia or Imo people, When the Ndoki Igbos are found in Rivers, Abia and few villages in Akwa Ibom and the Egbema people are spread between Rivers and Imo state, and the Etche being of same stock with those in Ohaji Imo state.

Inter marriage between those groups and SE predates colonial era and still continues today.
Jay jay Okocha though being from Enu ani in Delta would show more affiliation to his fellow Igbos in SE than with far Edo people that he can't communicate with without speaking English.

I can't image how a SWestern located Edo, that is bordering on NC, has more relationship with any of Rivers, Cross Rivers, Akwa Ibom than SE. Even looking at it from the map of Nigeria.

Deadlytruth:


Thank God it was an Igbo man like you that created the link which I referenced. And you have been jumping from tree to tree like a monkey in your attempt to separate Ekweme from Igbos for the litigation.
The chronological illogicality of the ESUTECH website kills its own claim. The three month legislative procedure impossibility buries it completely.

There is no ambiguity or illogicality on the ASUTECH establishment date on ESUT website. The site unequivocally stated that the school was established in 1981 as the first state University in Nigeria.
Here is the link again: http://www.esut.edu.ng/

And you have been turning logic on its head just to pin your miseries on Igbo persons( Ekwueme, Ironsi, Zik, Ojukwu) and Igbo people in general.

Deadlytruth:
And come to really think of it:
What programmes or good governance did Zik think he had in stall for the Western Region which his own Eastern Region was not more in need of? Why did he not want to govern his own people? Were they ungovernable? After all there were already issues of the Eastern Region's relative neglect by the colonial authorities as of then.
Why did he not begin his charity from home? Any charity which does not start from home is a huge fraud and a Trojan Horse.
It is sad to note that today's Benue, Kogi East Senatorial District and parts of Taraba were all part of the Eastern side of the Southern Protectorate as at 1900 thus giving the South a huger population enhanced bargaining power over the North, but that while those boundaries were being gerrymandered by Bello and the imperialists towards getting those places into the already too large Northern Region, the Zik who was supposed to be in Enugu leading the resistance to that move was actually far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo for the soul of the Western Region and later crying that Awolowo deployed tribalism to rob him despite being untrue. Meanwhile Awolowo secured the Western Region strongly and was leading irredentist movements to get Kwara back into the Western Region. And an ignorant Biafra is here regurgitation lies of Awolowo cheating Zik with tribalism.

Even if Zik had made a Fulani man the mayor of Enugu, common sense dictated that he should have moved up North to seek premiership of the North as reward rather than westwards. He wanted Peter to reward him for the favor he did to Paul. Asinine!

I could not for the life of me, make any sense of the above ramblings. You appear to be living in a world of your own.

Zik had the right to contest for elections at any part of the country. Why he chose Lagos and what he had to offer are simply irrelevant questions. He had the right as a citizen and resident of the Western region and exercised them.

What exactly did you smoke? The Eastern region was created by Bernard Bourdlion in 1938, the almagation of the North and Southern Nigeria took place in 1914, hope you saw the difference in the timeline?

How exactly did Awolowo fought for re inclusion of Kwara into Western region? By playing along with Gowon and advising the dissolution of the regions into dysfunctional states in futile attempt at creating ripples in Biafra?

Fulani man was elected the Mayor of Enugu by the Enugu city council and not by Zik, because he resided in Enugu and was involved in the politics of the region. Zik was a Lagos resident and deeply involved in the politics of the region, do the maths.

Deadlytruth:


I thought the thrashing was supposed to be explanations and evidences that Zik did not say all those?

http://
www.nairaland.com/3675653//7#54500260

Your superiors there couldn't provide better argument, let's hope you do.

See you there.

Deadlytruth:


Your short memory is schizophrenic! None of the so-called national parties ever produced an Igbo president. In all such arrangements Igbos are only used as stepping stones to power by the Arewanistan. In the case of PDP Ekueme was to be given the ticket but IBB swept him off with cash. Ekweme wasn't considered an easier lackey? After he already played lackey role for Arewanistan in 1979? You are a fraud!
Anenih is an Edo lackey to the Arewanistan-Biafra marriage, however we Edos don't deny it the way Igbos do for theirs. We revile Anenih and scorn him. We once took a riot to his house and attacked him for his romance with the North. Igbos don't ever do same to their own lackeys of the North.

From the party being an Igbo- Arewa party to Igbos being the stepping stones to power. You really ought to keep your absurd stories straight!

When and how was Ekwueme swept off with Cash by IBB?
Igbos were VPs for Awolowo and Shagari in the 1979, and Zik was also running for the presidency, it's called spreading your tent wide!

PDP was the ruling party throughout the Nine states of the old Eastern region. Both the Igbo and non Igbo parts with GEJ emerging the VP in 2007, yet we are supposed to believe the party was an Igbo- Arewa alliance? The same party that OBJ controlled its rigging machinery in his famous "do or die" politics between 1999- 2007, that seized the entire SW from AD, barring Lagos, with strong Yoruba men like Adedibu holding forth in the SW axis?

You need help.

And how exactly did Edos treat Enahoro and Akenzua that both had their heads up Gowon's arse? Right, they made one of them the Oba of Bini later.

Okorocha has been criticized by Ndiigbo, even termed OkoroAwusa and Ngige political career took a tumble ever since he started identifying with APC and it's roots.

You know nothing about the Igbo politics.

Deadlytruth:


Did we ever take Anambra Governor to court over his right to establish ASUTECH to warrant the need for donations-like expiation at the point of its actual establishment?

Did Zik and Nwobodo stand on Ambrose Alli path towards establishing the University?

I believe that 'Deadly Truth' is just being stupidly stupid. What is sOuth south'? What relationship does an Edo man has with an Efik,or ibibio? Lying stupidly excites some Afonjas and some Benin fellas!

Deadlytruth:


How did you read a crying or sorrowful mood into this? Please show the line which so suggests here. You are getting more confused by the day.
Well let me pity you now so you have enough time to go and keep doing your characteristic victim card ofplaying.
Now go back to your job and business of crying everyday of being oppressed by Yoruba, Hausa and Edo ( a minority).

But the truth is that all through your argument you sounded very pained and was running from pillar to post and changing rhetorics. Even a blind man could see your struggles against Pazienza's real and deadly truth. Suck it up buddy.

DocHMD:


But the truth is that all through your argument you sounded very pained and was running from pillar to post and changing rhetorics. Even a blind man could see your struggles against Pazienza's real and deadly truth. Suck it up buddy.

I strongly believe in return to true fiscal federalism but this doesn't mean these States will or not better than Lagos .
Change is part of nature. In 1966, Singore and Dubai weren't as developed as Lagos.

Deadlytruth:

Only a return to fiscal federalism/resource control will guarantee the decongestion of Lagos and Abuja as these two cities were not as developed as any of the regional capitals before Ironsi came with his wicked and self-serving Unification Decree.

Deadlytruth:
The truth remains that your fear and envy if Edo's glorious past still haunts you hence you keep talking of Edo Empire and Edo having no say in the SS and being a minority. You are obviously pained. The truth about the SS is that it is a region of peaceful, loving, kind, gentle, godly and caring people. The way we relate with one another is not about who has which say but about what is true, right, just and beneficial to everyone. That is why you can't find a SS people at each other's necks. We are not after one another's lands or resources. When we are away from home we respect our hosts. We don't drag their lands like Igbos are know n for. Our unity is founded on our shared objective of freedom from WAZOBIA. There is no single tribe with an overwhelming population so no tribe really has a say on its own strength alone. The largest tribe, Ijaw, is just 10℅ of the total population and that's very far from 50℅ the threshold of overwhelming status.
So all you said above are trash coming from a jealous heart. We SS people are not arrogant. We love sincerely without strings attached. We care. We are peace loving. We have the fear of God. Our mutual love transcends ethnic differences, Geographical location, language differences, etc. When I see a Cross River, Rivers, Always Ibom, Bayelsa or Delta man I feel at home. But if I find myself in the midst of Igbos I get afraid merely by their looks. They appear too desperate and agressive. But a SS person exudes hope, joy, friendliness, diplomacy, patience, love, wise counsel, self discipline, etc. If Nigeria splits the SS will be the most democratic offshoot because there will be no single major tribe to lord it over others and rig ekections with population, and that is why we don't want Biafrans among us.
Even the so-called Igboids in the SS enjoy the SS spirit that they are frequently unwilling to be identified as Igbos. They reject it and call themselves SS and we the other tribes accept them while heartedly because they are exactly like us in attitude to life and orientation.

You have said nothing but the truth bro.
The character of many igbos is sth that brings hatred to them and later they will be crying that all other people hate them and should allow them Biafra, but yet they keep hooking their hookers onto South-south and parts of middlebelt.

Dont mind the foolish igbo ipob members. Even me from the middlebelt, i would prefer to live in the south-south than south east anyday anytime. No sane Nigerian from another region will wake up tp go and reside in the SE because of the bitter souls of these individuals.
Am currently in Benin, Edo state and on my way to Warri (Delta state) where i was born.
South-south is my home away from home.

God bless the people of the south-south !

Deadlytruth:


It is only in Auchi you can find only 40℅ of Muslims. In most other Etsako towns and villages the Muslim population is insignificant. Igarra is in Akoko-Edo and not in Etsako so you are spewing falsehood on that. Akoko-Edo is about 98℅ Christians. Moreover the remaining Muslim families in Igarra are an endangered species courtesy of evangelism. Owan area too is 98℅ Christians. Even Auchi is not left out as it is home to the national headquarters of one of Pastor Suleman's church apart from the massive Anglican, Catholic and other Orthodox and Pentecostal churches there. But we hear of conversation from Christianity to Islam daily in Igbo land.
Mind you that Muslim is Muslim whether you have it in small or large numbers. You have Muslims in Afikpo, period!

I really wonder why many ignorant folks especially Igbos feel and conclude that Edo north is dominantly muslim.

The only dominantly muslim LGA in Edo state is Etsako west LGA (Auchi) and i even doubt muslims are still the majority there any longer because the rate at which these ppl are converting to christianity is alarming. I have in laws from Auchi who are now christians but were all formerly muslims or from muslim families.

Muslim population is not a bad thing as long as the muslims are moderate muslims like yoruba, kogi and edo muslims and not like the backward die hard hausa-fulani or kanuri muslims.

Deadlytruth:
Why you can find as much as 40℅ muslims in Auchi is due to the fact that it was in Auchi that the rampaging Usman Dan Fodio Army met it's match in the form of the Army of Oba Esigie who cut truncated Fodio's match to the Atlantic Ocean. Before Esigie's soldiers could reach Auchi the Dan Fodio soldiers had successfully used force to convert residents to Islam from their native religions.
If not for Oba Esigie the marauding Fulani would have evangelized deep into the South right into Igbo heartland and converted all Igbos to muslims more so that Igbos had no standing army then. But rather being thankful to Edos Igbos call names ignorantly.

This is one fact many empty headed igbos are not aware of.
Igbos lived in decentralized and scattered settlements in pre colonial times and it would have been very easy for them to be conquered and islamized by hausa-fulanis were it not people from Benue-Plateau, Wukari-kwararafa (Taraba) and Igala (Kogi) who waged wars with and defeated Danfodio from pushing further southwards.
Likewise Bini kingdom waged them (jihadists) from Auchi-Esan axis.

Nowenuse:


This is one fact many empty headed igbos are not aware of.
Igbos lived in decentralized and scattered settlements in pre colonial times and it would have been very easy for them to be conquered and islamized by hausa-fulanis were it not people from Benue-Plateau, Wukari-kwararafa (Taraba) and Igala (Kogi) who waged wars with and defeated Danfodio from pushing further southwards.
Likewise Bini kingdom waged them (jihadists) from Auchi-Esan axis.

Igbos stand on the liberty they enjoy from other's sacrifices and insult same people. A people who were existing as tiny independent villages this without any king let alone any standing army. We would have allowed the Usman Dan Fodio soldiers to wipe them off had we known.
I am in Benin too right now. I will inbox you so that we can meet.

DocHMD:


But the truth is that all through your argument you sounded very pained and was running from pillar to post and changing rhetorics. Even a blind man could see your struggles against Pazienza's real and deadly truth. Suck it up buddy.

As if anyone would expect a housefly not to be on the side of a wound.
Why won't you support your Igbo brother? Do Igbos ever agree their own person is wrong?
Has there even been an instance where Igbos criticized and openly condemned their own people even when clearly wrong?
I have been busy all day today and I am preparing my responses now.

Deadlytruth:

As if anyone would expect a housefly not to be on the side of a wound.
Why won't you support your Igbo brother? Do Igbos ever agree their own person is wrong?
Has there even been an instance where Igbos criticized and openly condemned their own people even when clearly wrong?
I have been busy all day today and I am preparing my responses now.

We actually use to condemn ourselves in public while you shielded you own and thought 'Igbos are mumus who are not united'.


But truth be told even from an unbiased mind, you were slammed thoroghly with the truth, you are just too ashamed to accept.

Deadlytruth:

Igbos stand on the liberty they enjoy from other's sacrifices and insult same people. A people who were existing as tiny independent villages this without any king let alone any standing army. We would have allowed the Usman Dan Fodio soldiers to wipe them off had we known.
I am in Benin too right now. I will inbox you so that we can meet.

Ok. Am already in Warri now but would be back to Benin by next week.

Igbos are the only ones u will see against everyone everywhere and all the time.
I only pity the few well enlightened and easy going Igbos because the hatred of these loud lousy igbos would be speaking for them.

Igbos are always against Hausas/the north, against Yorubas, against Edos, against Ijaws /South-south. Against middlebelt and even against themselves. I wonder which kind of creatures they are.

Nowenuse:


This is one fact many empty headed igbos are not aware of.
Igbos lived in decentralized and scattered settlements in pre colonial times and it would have been very easy for them to be conquered and islamized by hausa-fulanis were it not people from Benue-Plateau, Wukari-kwararafa (Taraba) and Igala (Kogi) who waged wars with and defeated Danfodio from pushing further southwards.
Likewise Bini kingdom waged them (jihadists) from Auchi-Esan axis.

Keep deceiving yourselves. Gowon and his hordes of Arewa-oduanistanis and Edoids also thought that Igbos would be conquered in 1 month, but the war lasted for 3 years and they needed the total active support of two world powers( Britain and USSR), in addition to war crimes to subdue Biafrans.
Yet when the dust settled, they lost 3 soldiers for each Biafran soldier they killed.

The Jihadists would have met their Waterloo in Igboland if they advanced further.

You are the empty headed one here.

Nowenuse:


Ok. Am already in Warri now but would be back to Benin by next week.

Igbos are the only ones u will see against everyone everywhere and all the time.
I only pity the few well enlightened and easy going Igbos because the hatred of these loud lousy igbos would be speaking for them.

Igbos are always against Hausas/the north, against Yorubas, against Edos, against Ijaws /South-south. Against middlebelt and even against themselves. I wonder which kind of creatures they are.

Never knew that Igbos are the ones currently fighting the Fulanis in Southern Kaduna, they are the ones currently dragging Ijaw Gelegele with them, Igbos are Modakeke people that were fighting with Ife people, they were the Offa people that were fighting with their neighbors. Igbos are the Idomas that are politically fighting for the soul of Benue with the Tivs, they are the Igalas that see Kogi as their birthright and are in constant political faceoff with the Ebiras and the rest of Kogi.

Igbos the ones that took Ilorin from Yorubas, they are also the ones that Enslaved the Hausa's following Gobir fall.
You need a mental examination.

Ndiigbo don't care. Once we notice any trace of Igbophobia, we treat it and send down a concentrated hate message to any one or group who have their hate message directed at Ndiigbo.

pazienza:


Never knew that Igbos are the ones currently fighting the Fulanis in Southern Kaduna, they are the ones currently dragging Ijaw Gelegele with them, Igbos are Modakeke people that were fighting with Ife people, they were the Offa people that were fighting with their neighbors. Igbos are the Idomas that are politically fighting for the soul of Benue with the Tivs, they are the Igalas that see Kogi as their birthright and are in constant political faceoff with the Ebiras and the rest of Kogi.

Igbos the ones that took Ilorin from Yorubas, they are also the ones that Enslaved the Hausa's following Gobir fall.
You need a mental examination.

Ndiigbo don't care. Once we notice any trace of Igbophobia, we treat it and send down a concentrated hate message to any one or group who have their hate message directed at Ndiigbo.

Don't mind these people with their blind hatred. They choose to blind themselves from reality. Nigeria is a boiling cauldron right now, both from herdsmen rampage and other vices, tell me if Igbos are involved. We do our business in peace, but these mofos keep lying to cover up their hatred. They claim South East is the least peaceful, but UN report tagged South East the most peaceful region in the whole of the federation. These guys are rabidly consumed with hate. If only IPOB will toe the part of wisdom and stop including none Igboid group in their agitation. if only..... God, willing a united Igbo front will achieve Biafra then they can choke in their hate.

pazienza:


Keep deceiving yourselves. Gowon and his hordes of Arewa-oduanistanis and Edoids also thought that Igbos would be conquered in 1 month, but the war lasted for 3 years and they needed the total active support of two world powers( Britain and USSR), in addition to war crimes to subdue Biafrans.
Yet when the dust settled, they lost 3 soldiers for each Biafran soldier they killed.

The Jihadists would have met their Waterloo in Igboland if they advanced further.

You are the empty headed one here.

Waterloo in Igboland my foot.
Even middlebelt tribes like Igalas conquered, enslaved and influenced a large part of Igbo land like Nsukka and till date many Nsukka kings and chiefs still pay their respect to Attah of Igala land confirming their origins.

pazienza:


Never knew that Igbos are the ones currently fighting the Fulanis in Southern Kaduna, they are the ones currently dragging Ijaw Gelegele with them, Igbos are Modakeke people that were fighting with Ife people, they were the Offa people that were fighting with their neighbors. Igbos are the Idomas that are politically fighting for the soul of Benue with the Tivs, they are the Igalas that see Kogi as their birthright and are in constant political faceoff with the Ebiras and the rest of Kogi.

Igbos the ones that took Ilorin from Yorubas, they are also the ones that Enslaved the Hausa's following Gobir fall.
You need a mental examination.

Ndiigbo don't care. Once we notice any trace of Igbophobia, we treat it and send down a concentrated hate message to any one or group who have their hate message directed at Ndiigbo.

We all have problems with each other especially our neighbouring groups, but it is usually settled and forgotten in no time.
All the feuding groups u listed above share boundaries with each other, hence their likely fracas.
Igbos do not share land boundary whatsoever with Yorubas, Hausas or Edos, yet u always see them arguing, cursing or hating these peeps, why always Igbos?

U guys are hate filled souls to the extent that in your region amongst yourselves some are classified as Osu (outcastes) and strongly discriminated. Anambra and Imo always despise each other even outside and jointly despise Wawa and Ebonyi people and will not intermarry them.
That is why most Igboid groups in the South-south like Ikwerre, Ika, Ndokwa, Ogba, Ekpeye e.t.c never want to be associated with u guys on anything and reject Igbo tag like a plague.

Nowenuse:


Waterloo in Igboland my foot.
Even middlebelt tribes like Igalas conquered, enslaved and influenced a large part of Igbo land like Nsukka and till date many Nsukka kings and chiefs still pay their respect to Attah of Igala land confirming their origins.

Isn't it Ironic that you speak of Conquering part of Igboland with happiness and pride, yet Igbos are supposed to be the big bad bogey men out to grab the lands of their neighbors, you people really need to keep these your absurd stories straight. Lol!

Igala was finally united against and fought to a stand still by Igbos in Nsukka area. Some of them only pay homages to Igala today because some of them are descendants of these deposed Igala invaders who were emasculated and forced to assimilate into the Igbo culture of Nsukkaland.