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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:43pm On Mar 21, 2017
diordaves:

I'm not too sure how Haji M executed his Windows as displayed but normally inside the square hollow pipes is a 16mm rod. So if you took a hammer to it, you will meet the rod and probably be thwarted.

I no go reveal my secrets o. Reinforced. smiley

Hsjji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Memejem: 11:43pm On Mar 21, 2017
Thanks for the response

diordaves:


I'm not familiar with Onitsha but a good aluminium workman can deliver a decent job. They are normally custom designed, you can't buy casement windows off the shelf.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 11:50pm On Mar 21, 2017
oyb:



It is not energy efficient to have to turn on the light every time you want to access the store
a properly placed window allows for natural lighting.

Pantry is not a place you frequent that much (Its not the kitchen itself), so you dont need a Window there.
The one minute five times a day (at most) you enter the Pantry wont increase your NEPA bill significantly.

Even at night, you will still need the Light, windows or no windows!

Block the darn thing off.
Most houses dont put window in a Pantry, at times, it is locate in the space under the staircase.
That is where mine is and l have seen many like that.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:42am On Mar 22, 2017
rabcnesbit:


Okay, on a different topic. I have got to the stage of installing windows to my building. The number of windows is 56!!! As I am planning on going for casement windows with inbuilt burglary proof and mosquito netting/screen, this will cost me a few bob! So I am looking at reducing the number of windows. The draughtsman that drew the plan for me drew windows for the small stores (one store per flat; block of 4 flats), so that's 4 store windows I could potentially get rid off, as I do not see the reason for a window in a small store in a flat? Or an I wrong, is it definitely needed?
Not the best way to cut cost as some food materials gets bad when there is no proper ventilation. Also lack of ventilation supports dampening by raising humidity within the space and spoils grains. that 50k will serve the users better.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:45am On Mar 22, 2017
rabcnesbit:


Okay, on a different topic. I have got to the stage of installing windows to my building. The number of windows is 56!!! As I am planning on going for casement windows with inbuilt burglary proof and mosquito netting/screen, this will cost me a few bob! So I am looking at reducing the number of windows. The draughtsman that drew the plan for me drew windows for the small stores (one store per flat; block of 4 flats), so that's 4 store windows I could potentially get rid off, as I do not see the reason for a window in a small store in a flat? Or an I wrong, is it definitely needed?
what you can do is if the store opens to the Kitchen directly you can make use of fancy blocks at higher levels to compensate for the windows. or better still stop the wall between kitchen and store at after the lintel depending on your design out look.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:56am On Mar 22, 2017
rabcnesbit:


Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks
it all depends on your aluminium man and welder in terms of strenght and durability they are same for fixing stability the in built is better, plus you can incorporate wrought iron work to the window in place of the usual bars place in aluminum frame.

Something like this

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:12am On Mar 22, 2017
Daboomb:


Pantry is not a place you frequent that much (Its not the kitchen itself), so you dont need a Window there.
The one minute five times a day (at most) you enter the Pantry wont increase your NEPA bill significantly.

Even at night, you will still need the Light, windows or no windows!

Block the darn thing off.
Most houses dont put window in a Pantry, at times, it is locate in the space under the staircase.
That is where mine is and l have seen many like that.

Maybe your pantry is different. There is food in my pantry, both processed and unprocessed. Semo, Rice, indomie, biscuits, juice, etc. Me, my wife, kids, go there several times a day. Definitely more than five times.

In addition we are talking about energy efficiency. Just as some others have mentioned, I also use an inverter. My batteries are on their last legs so we do not use anything except the absolutely necessary loads during operation. You're running on nepa, fine. But if you're running on an inverter, or an I pass my neighbour, every watt counts.

Decisions like this, (cutting out windows) may save you money in the short run, but can have a different impact in the long run.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:31am On Mar 22, 2017
Here in the US, I've never had a window in any pantry. There is no window in my pantry in Ibadan, I think there will be enough airflow as it's smack dab in the kitchen which has a large sized pass through to the breakfast bar as well as a pretty big sized window.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 8:55am On Mar 22, 2017
kopell:
waithing the make you fear, if the total area of the house no pass 515 SQM[b] he no pass between 2.9 to 3.2 million[/b] including wooden and gutters if you choose to used motopo Aluminum 0.55mm all round. Though this may depends on your roofing hight and design sha.

Which is less than USD10k that he uses to eat burger and hot dogs in a month which is also less than what he uses for his pets in a month. grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by desiji: 9:49am On Mar 22, 2017
akinolaolujide:

Not the best way to cut cost as some food materials gets bad when there is no proper ventilation. Also lack of ventilation supports dampening by raising humidity within the space and spoils grains. that 50k will serve the users better.
It is not only about the Food, every light counts in a building and you don't have this closed boxed in feeling if you know there is a window

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:51pm On Mar 22, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 7:20pm On Mar 22, 2017
so am wondering if anyone knows or has seen this type of counter top in nigeria, i know its wood wrapped with a water resistant material
i prefer this to tiles, anyday

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:39pm On Mar 22, 2017
earthrealm:
so am wondering if anyone knows or has seen this type of counter top in nigeria, i know its wood wrapped with a water resistant material
i prefer this to tiles, anyday

It's common actually. It's wrapped with formica.

What I haven't seen though or maybe I haven't been paying attention is the wrapped round edge. They usually just cut the edges and join them.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 7:48pm On Mar 22, 2017
earthrealm:
so am wondering if anyone knows or has seen this type of counter top in nigeria, i know its wood wrapped with a water resistant material
i prefer this to tiles, anyday

You can try this guy out,he might have what you are looking for : http://www.frakem.com/categories/Sanitary-Wares/Wash-Basin-%26-Cabinets/
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:19pm On Mar 22, 2017
oyb:


Maybe your pantry is different. There is food in my pantry, both processed and unprocessed. Semo, Rice, indomie, biscuits, juice, etc. Me, my wife, kids, go there several times a day. Definitely more than five times.

In addition we are talking about energy efficiency. Just as some others have mentioned, I also use an inverter. My batteries are on their last legs so we do not use anything except the absolutely necessary loads during operation. You're running on nepa, fine. But if you're running on an inverter, or an I pass my neighbour, every watt counts.

Decisions like this, (cutting out windows) may save you money in the short run, but can have a different impact in the long run.

You are still mixing things up, up there!

People and their family members enter their kitchen as many times as possible, doing all those stuffs you mentioned up there!
Or are you telling me that EVERYDAY, EVERYTIME each member of your family needs to eat ANYTHING (Indomie, Semo, Eba, Rice, Tea, Biscuits, Juice, Eggs, processed food, e.t.c)......... they all head INSIDE THE PANTRY? shocked shocked

You funny-die!
grin grin

You need to check the dictionary meaning of a Pantry!

It is A STORE... for the Kitchen! (Place where bulk food, mostly unprocessed, are kept long-term).
Just like the whole House could have a Store (You can keep DIY stuffs in your Store, you can keep Inverter Batteries there if you want, e.t.c)

Read @Egunmogaji's response (He was the first person to use that word: Pantry, on this issue).

I am sure you dont even have a Pantry ......otherwise you wont state the bolded in your post.
grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:31pm On Mar 22, 2017
Daboomb:


You are still mixing things up, up there!

People and their family members enter their kitchen as many times as possible, doing all those stuffs you mentioned up there!
Or are you telling me that EVERYDAY, EVERYTIME each member of your family needs to eat ANYTHING (Indomie, Semo, Eba, Rice, Tea, Biscuits, Juice, Eggs, processed food, e.t.c)......... they all head INSIDE THE PANTRY? shocked shocked

You funny-die!
grin grin

You need to check the dictionary meaning of a Pantry!

It is A STORE... for the Kitchen! (Place where bulk food, mostly unprocessed, are kept long-term).
Just like the whole House could have a Store (You can keep DIY stuffs in your Store, you can keep Inverter Batteries there if you want, e.t.c)

Read @Egunmogaji's response (He was the first person to use that word: Pantry, on this issue).

I am sure you dont even have a Pantry ......otherwise you wont state the bolded in your post.
grin grin

In my house, in Costco we believe, so we end up coming home with gademn huge amount of products.

I have a storage cabinet in the garage where we store stuff like tin tomato. Then a few tin tomato crate goes into the pantry in the kitchen from the cabinets in the garage. Then maybe half a dozen of those end up in the kitchen cabinet. As the kitchen cabinet gets less they are replenished from the pantry. As the pantry gets less then it gets replenished from the garage cabinet. In fact, my Wife makes part of her grocery list from the cabinets in the garage. If there's low stock there then that means that we are almost out.

Yeah, pantry is not somewhere you go in all the time and nothing easily perishable really gets stored in there.

Small batteries for electronics.
Tin cans of vaariou scomdiments
Bottled water
Cooking oil
Large plastic tubs of garri, elubo, etc (smaller plastic containers of as such are in the kitchen cabinets
Paper towel
Toilet paper
Car keys (hung neatly behind the door)

But I will say though that each family is different and the way they use space might be different.

So after we beat this pantry affair, can we move on to safe rooms and what should be stored in there? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:37pm On Mar 22, 2017
Daboomb:


You are still mixing things up, up there!

People and their family members enter their kitchen as many times as possible, doing all those stuffs you mentioned up there!
Or are you telling me that EVERYDAY, EVERYTIME each member of your family needs to eat ANYTHING (Indomie, Semo, Eba, Rice, Tea, Biscuits, Juice, Eggs, processed food, e.t.c)......... they all head INSIDE THE PANTRY? shocked shocked

You funny-die!
grin grin

You need to check the dictionary meaning of a Pantry!

It is A STORE... for the Kitchen! (Place where bulk food, mostly unprocessed, are kept long-term).
Just like the whole House could have a Store (You can keep DIY stuffs in your Store, you can keep Inverter Batteries there if you want, e.t.c)

Read @Egunmogaji's response (He was the first person to use that word: Pantry, on this issue).

I am sure you dont even have a Pantry ......otherwise you wont state the bolded in your post.
grin grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantry

A pantry is a room where beverages, food, and sometimes dishes, household cleaning chemicals, linens, or provisions are stored. Food and beverage pantries serve in an ancillary capacity to the kitchen. The word "pantry" derive from the same source as the Old French term paneterie; that is from pain, the French form of the Latin panis for bread.[citation needed]

my pantry has all the things previously listed and more.
the juice my kids take to school is in a container in a pantry ; so are their biscuits
semi processed foods [indomie, semo, spagetti etc are in their own containers]
raw foods [garri, rice, etal] are in their own containers
provisions [cereal, custard, milk, sugar] are in their own containers

some items may require a forthnight to visit the pantry [tins of milk]
others like biscuits [small packets] is once or twice a day

it is possible that your kitchen doubles as your food store. if so, good for you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 8:39pm On Mar 22, 2017
[/b]Can three bedroom bungalow be built for N3m?[b]

I know we've debated this before and we all have our views, but I wish to bring this up again in light of some new examples
. I hold the view that N3 million can get one a half decent three bedroom bungalow.

So I had my secondary education in Benin Technical College, Benin City Edo State. This was then the best equipped secondary and technical school in Nigeria. No hype, just facts.

We had air-conditioning in classrooms, near Olympic size swimming pool, well equipped labs and workshops. The vocational training was top class to London City and Guild qualifications. I did my elective in woodwork with technical drawing. It was heaven. The best time was in the 80s.

But then subsequent government allowed the Benin Technical College to go to rot and decline. See pix..

What has this to do with N3m bungalow? Tarry a bit longer.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:53pm On Mar 22, 2017
EgunMogaji:


In my house, in Costco we believe, so we end up coming home with gademn huge amount of products.

I have a storage cabinet in the garage where we store stuff like tin tomato. Then a few tin tomato crate goes into the pantry in the kitchen from the cabinets in the garage. Then maybe half a dozen of those end up in the kitchen cabinet. As the kitchen cabinet gets less they are replenished from the pantry. As the pantry gets less then it gets replenished from the garage cabinet. In fact, my Wife makes part of her grocery list from the cabinets in the garage. If there's low stock there then that means that we are almost out.

Yeah, pantry is not somewhere you go in all the time and nothing easily perishable really gets stored in there.

Small batteries for electronics.
Tin cans of vaariou scomdiments
Bottled water
Cooking oil
Large plastic tubs of garri, elubo, etc (smaller plastic containers of as such are in the kitchen cabinets
Paper towel
Toilet paper
Car keys (hung neatly behind the door)

But I will say though that each family is different and the way they use space might be different.

So after we beat this pantry affair, can we move on to safe rooms and what should be stored in there? grin





Garage => Pantry => Kitchen => Kitchen Cabinets => Pot or Mouth
As we move from left to Right, the 'Item's Quantity' get Smaller.

I dont see anyone jumping the Kitchen and its Cabinets.... to fetch Fufuu, Soup or Biscuit in the Pantry! shocked shocked shocked

Thank you Sir, l have nothing more to add to the pantry affair........ you have broken it down beyond what hammer can do.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Julivas(m): 10:07pm On Mar 22, 2017
mufutau55:

I no go reveal my secrets o. Reinforced. smiley
Hsjji M.
Good evening Please kindly reply to ur pm. Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:22pm On Mar 22, 2017
Julivas:

Good evening
Please kindly reply to ur pm.
Thanks.

Done.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:29pm On Mar 22, 2017
To bring back the lost glory of Benin Technical College, the old students UK/Europe Chapter of which I'm a member are about to hand over a built 10 rooms toilet facility to the school. The project was executed with N2m. See pix.

Now the footprint of the project is equivalent to a 3 bedroom bungalow. So pump in a further N1m will get one a half decent 3 bedroom bungalow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Julivas(m): 10:40pm On Mar 22, 2017
mufutau55:

Done.
Hajji M.
Alright. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:56pm On Mar 22, 2017
diordaves:
To bring back the lost glory of Benin Technical College, the old students UK/Europe Chapter of which I'm a member are about to hand over a built 10 rooms toilet facility to the school. The project was executed with N2m. See pix.

Now the footprint of the project is equivalent to a 3 bedroom bungalow. So pump in a further N1m will get one a half decent 3 bedroom bungalow.


We can only compare carcass since finishing will be different.

Can we audit the finances of the build? I'm assuming not grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 2:58am On Mar 23, 2017
kopell:
waithing the make you fear, if the total area of the house no pass 515 SQM he no pass between 2.9 to 3.2 million including wooden and gutters if you choose to used motopo Aluminum 0.55mm all round. Though this may depends on your roofing hight and design sha.

Kopell you get heart shaa o! See as you call N2.9m to N3.2m as if to say na Somalia currency.
Oboy I no dey sleep again for the total size of my roof we go dey around that 500+sqm.

Walahi anytime wey sleep wan come small, I go begin dey think roof skeleton first before roof measurement, and trusses, rafters, purlins all those words ever first heard on nairaland just dey remember when our people still dey use raffia leaves for roofing.

Roof over our head na compulsory part of building and to achieve am na God hand we dey.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:50am On Mar 23, 2017
Mayor78:

Kopell you get heart shaa o! See as you call N2.9m to N3.2m as if to say na Somalia currency.
Oboy I no dey sleep again for the total size of my roof we go dey around that 500+sqm.

Kopell is right o.
For EgunMogaji, nah chicken change... the man just dey hide the loot. Ask am if he no know Dasuki.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 4:02am On Mar 23, 2017
diordaves:
[/b]Can three bedroom bungalow be built for N3m?[b]

I know we've debated this before and we all have our views, but I wish to bring this up again in light of some new examples
. I hold the view that N3 million can get one a half decent three bedroom bungalow.

So I had my secondary education in Benin Technical College, Benin City Edo State. This was then the best equipped secondary and technical school in Nigeria. No hype, just facts.

We had air-conditioning in classrooms, near Olympic size swimming pool, well equipped labs and workshops. The vocational training was top class to London City and Guild qualifications. I did my elective in woodwork with technical drawing. It was heaven. The best time was in the 80s.

But then subsequent government allowed the Benin Technical College to go to rot and decline. See pix..

What has this to do with N3m bungalow? Tarry a bit longer.

Waoo my Dad also graduated from this college before the 80's though and I still remember how wonderful he said the school was back then.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 4:09am On Mar 23, 2017
mufutau55:


Kopell is right o.
For EgunMogaji, nah chicken change... the man just dey hide the loot. Ask am if he no know Dasuki.

Hajji M.

Lol!
So na you dey talk this? You forget say EgunMogaji house na kobo kobo build and na your footsteps wey e dey follow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:19am On Mar 23, 2017
Mayor78:


Lol!
So na you dey talk this? You forget say EgunMogaji house na kobo kobo build and na your footsteps wey e dey follow.

I just dey look Hajj one kind way dey shake my head grin

Me wey I get one kind small padlock garage for elebu village while only one of Hajjs superstructures is an edifice thats as big as the parliament house.

Speaking of parliament house, hope you guys in London are okay. i heard about some nutty bloke that was running rampant today
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:25am On Mar 23, 2017
Mayor78:

Lol!
So na you dey talk this? You forget say EgunMogaji house na kobo kobo build and na your footsteps wey e dey follow.

That no mean say he no get the dough.... The kobo-kobo part be say he wan come home at interval to do the work himself; which is the best way... but not be say money no dey for that guy pocket o... But for me I for show you the holes wey dey my pocket. smiley

Hajji M.

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