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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by paschu: 11:28pm On Mar 23, 2017 |
Okay, good night. Lucasbalo: |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 1:43am On Mar 24, 2017 |
paschu:If they can't win the argument then they call you names 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:59am On Mar 24, 2017 |
McCain: Congress doesn't have 'Credibilty' to handle Russia probes. Nunes visited the White House, that says it all, Comey came out with a vague letter on Hill's fake scandal ten days to election but kept mum since July about Trump-Russia investigations. I know the truth will surface someday. 6 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:19am On Mar 24, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:Oh I see, and Bill met Lynch on the plane and that says it all, Hillary was bailed out? Sounds familiar, doesn't it? hahahaha |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:20am On Mar 24, 2017 |
Liberal nut jobs getting schooled or rather gored by Gorsuch Absolutely phenomenal to watch....oh dear! |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:32am On Mar 24, 2017 |
obixcel:Deflector in Chief? Is that ethical? The chairman of an investigative committee investigating a President for possible treasonous acts visits the president to discuss these investigations despite guidelines on secrecy from the FBI and NSA, a lone visit without informing the committee. Bill meets Lynch which all evidence proves is circumstantial meeting even though I don't believe that and you don't. Bill and Lynch wasn't acceptable, Lynch apologized and recused herself from the investigation. Why hasn't Devin Nunes done the same? 7 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:35am On Mar 24, 2017 |
obixcel:He's a judge, I wouldn't expect him to not be able to school our Senators. Even if I don't want him on the bench, he's qualified for the position, and a fine conservative choice. It's the nation's highest court, it shouldn't be filled with hacks. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:36am On Mar 24, 2017 |
ValerianSteel: It was a massive error in judgment on the part of Nunez. It's an elementary principle of natural law that a judge has to be fair when dealing with both sides to a dispute. I agree that Congress Nunez should recuse himself from further investigative proceedings of the House-select Intelligence Committee. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:37am On Mar 24, 2017 |
The House of Reps will vote on the Healthcare bill tomorrow. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:41am On Mar 24, 2017 |
CFCman:We play too much with words these days There's no error in judgement. He fucking knew what he was doing. He didn't inform the ranking member Adam Schiff. He went alone without informing any member of his own party. He knows the procedures and guidelines in place about secrecy on an investigation like this which Comey reiterated during the hearing. He went anyway. Why? No one will stop them, republicans have control, they can choose to bury it all and fall under Trump's command. The visit was a calculated and co-ordinated effort by Nunes, no error in judgement perfectly executed as he wanted and he achieved. Yes we can agree, he needs to recuse himself. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 2:44am On Mar 24, 2017 |
CFCman:Goodluck with that. The new CBO report is less damning but all still worrying. Trumpcare is a disaster. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:57am On Mar 24, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:You are correct but you missed the point that he Nunez was a member of Trump transition committee and because some members of the transition committee are under the FBI investigation, Nunez should recuse himself. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 5:01am On Mar 24, 2017 |
obixcel:A caveman like you don't count in the scheme of things. Nairaland is the only place that gives you relevance in your irrelevant life. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 8:55am On Mar 24, 2017 |
Lucasbalo:Says the Ghetto guy 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:55am On Mar 24, 2017 |
paschu: You didn't answer my question. If you have read Art of the Deal and you think the answer is in there why can you not discuss it here? Anyways I guess we can safely drop this. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 8:57am On Mar 24, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:oh oh, and the stupid questions from d dumbocrats, how come they forgot they were dealing with a Judge? Was it another Saturday Live? loll |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:59am On Mar 24, 2017 |
Trump University, still rearing its ugly head. http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/23/news/trump-university-settlement-claims/index.html John F. Banzhaf III, a law professor at George Washington University, said Simpson's objection could delay or even derail the settlement, because if the judge rules in her favor, the settlement would have to be adjusted to allow additional students to opt-out. If the judge rejects her argument, she could appeal. "What she is doing could torpedo the settlement. If the court grants her request, it means she would be free to sue Donald Trump on her own," Banzhaf said. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:33am On Mar 24, 2017 |
obixcel:Dumbo, the so called ghetto you referred to is 1.000 times better than your skunky cave. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:52pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Has Trump's negotiating skills failed: Trump threatens to leave ObamaCare in place if repeal bill fails |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:28pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
LordReed: don't jump the gun . . wait until friday is over. this is the first test of mr art of the deal |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 2:16pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
oyb: I may not be a billionaire but even I know that you do not issue ultimatums when your negotiations have been successful. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
obixcel: I read about the Gorsuch opposition and it just sounded silly like all liberal nonsense. They just dig out some political correct nonsense to wail and moan about. It wont take anyone with an intellect to put them in their place. Almost all the liberal attacks are never well thought out and just rablle rousing 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:26pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
LordReed: trumps 'art of the deal' is more the art of intimidation/bullying. Take it or leave it is nigeria mogul style. one of the first projects i was exposed to was that glo building in VI. oga at the top wanted it commissioned in time for his set date, and all the contractors, who had not been paid had downed tools in rebellion. the man came and basically bullied them back to work . [size=3pt]and most of us still never got completely paid[/size] 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 3:34pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
oyb: Then I am hard pressed to call it a negotiation. Ultimatums are issued when you think/know the other side doesn't have what it takes to continue to resist your demands. Another funny turn is some Trump supporters believe he is only backing this bill so he can introduce his own "ultimate" bill when the time comes. So if it passes he has the Republicans support for his own personal health care bill or it fails he can then bring it out like a messiah. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by paschu: 4:13pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
He that holds the upper hand walks out on the table. #negotiation101 Yes, threats and ultimatums are valid parts of negotiation. But I guess your excuse is valid too. LordReed: 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 4:18pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
paschu: Threats and ultimatums are issued when negotiations are failing. They're not normally part of negotiations. Here take a look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/comments/618r5t/what_do_you_think_is_trumps_greatest_business/ |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by paschu: 4:23pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
LordReed: But not when it has FAILED The essence of threats is to get the other party to make a compromise. That's part of negotiation. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by paschu: 4:24pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
Hold it, did you craete that thread on Reddit? I hope you like the responses you are getting? The one on The Apprentice is particularly genius, don't you think? LordReed: 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 4:46pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Their flawed narratives are so easily debunked |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 4:52pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017...Trump-Sessions Trump, Sessions, Manafort, Kushner all directly involved in selling US foreign policy to Russia for 0.5% of Russian oil giant Rosneft. In a stunning tweetstorm this evening, columnist and reporter Seth Abrahamson (Huffington Post, Dallas Morning News, Seattle Times, Washington Post) laid out all the details on the Russia-Trump connection. And folks, this is impeachment territory, and imprisonment territory, for the highest officials in the United States. (MEGA-THREAD) The plot to sell America's foreign policy for foreign oil _and_ steal an election in the bargain began at the Mayflower Hotel.pic.twitter.com/XkoFpmMAeJ — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 2) The timing was intentional: Manafort, hired in March, was slated to become the campaign's key player as soon as Trump became the nominee. — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 4) The speech, arranged by Jared Kushner in mid-March, was to be hosted by the Center for the National Interest, a conservative think tank.pic.twitter.com/yXj3J7DpQJ — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 Note that the Center for the National Interest will be abbreviated “CNI” often in this thread. 6) The speech was slated to be at the National Press Club, an august venue with a _long_ history of staging secure events with large crowds.pic.twitter.com/cuq5492nkO — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 So Manafort moved the event to the Mayflower Hotel: a smaller, less secure site. The decision confirmed the campaign's excuses were lies.pic.twitter.com/EtgLxhMXYh — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 10) The latter was important because Manafort wanted Trump to hold an intimate, 24-person cocktail hour in the Mayflower's VIP Senate Room. — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 12) Another VIP at the event was Iran-Contra figure Bud McFarlane, one of America's chief advocates for a bargain with Russia on oil access.pic.twitter.com/hj6TJhLujN — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 14) The _biggest oil deal in Russia's history_ occurred in December of 2016. It involved the coordination of entities from three countries. — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 16) The #Russiagate scandal involves claims Trump was given 0.5% of Rosneft and aid in getting elected in exchange for lifting US sanctions.pic.twitter.com/epnrPl9ngo — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 18) WSJ wrote in April 2016 that Trump met separately with the ambassadors at the Mayflower and was effusive. Quote: https:///ZDUKoGnuJ3 — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 20) The ambassadors at the Mayflower: RUSSIA! ITALY! SINGAPORE! And the Philippines--which is routinely cited as a Rosneft expansion target.pic.twitter.com/lkziVxMM6l — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 22) In his speech Trump called for a Russian detente: "We desire to live peacefully and in friendship with Russia...we are not bound...pic.twitter.com/LY1s6ZdE4k — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 24) is possible..[I hope to] make a deal under my administration that’s great for America but also good for Russia." https:///z0OA6pmXbh — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 26) The only Kislyak meeting Sessions _never_ disclosed to Congress, _even after accusations of perjury_, was the meeting at the Mayflower.pic.twitter.com/D8mzXi2xNa — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 28) Heilbrunn on the VIP event: "At a reception in the Senate Room of the Mayflower, a number of politicians and Trump advisers, such as... — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 30) The VIP event _wasn't_ just a receiving line as Trump claimed. It was a "cocktail meet-and-greet"--a full event. https:///qnbY6u56uw — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 32) The White House saying it has “no recollection†of any of the VIPs at Trump's _biggest-ever foreign policy event_ is also a red flag.pic.twitter.com/bTQsz5JJ2Z — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 34) Kislyak went on to _fail_ to disclose his meeting with Trump at the Mayflower, citing only a meeting at the RNC. https:///4ft7A3WGii — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 36) We know Manafort set up the Mayflower event and was available for meetings at it--as was Kushner, who later met secretly with Kislyak.pic.twitter.com/nOnWyPZB4x — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 38) We know the White House lied about Mayflower. We know Sessions has. We know Kislyak has. And we know the Rosneft players were present.pic.twitter.com/9BIKLipInj — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 40) So other than the RNC and suspicious Trump Tower meetings in December, the Mayflower Speech should get the _most_ attention in Congress.pic.twitter.com/8mPUhCC4bp — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017 Abrahamson doesn’t reveal much about his sources, but let’s just be aware that the intelligence community has long been rumored to have the goods on Trump. So yeah. Somebody’s leaking. Daily Kos readers may also recall that according to the famous British spy dossier on the Russia connection, Carter Page was offered 19% of Rosneft if he could get US sanctions on Russia lifted. And apparently Trump himself wanted a piece of that action, to the tune of 0.5%; and whaddya know? Rosneft sold exactly 19.5% of its stock to person or persons unknown. https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 4:54pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
paschu: Yes I did. Really interesting answers. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 4:59pm On Mar 24, 2017 |
paschu: If you have to pull out a gun or weapon then it's no longer a negotiation. When you threaten someone with a capacity you have the ability to carry out you are not expecting the person to still attempt to get a deal for themselves, you are issuing a fait. Do this or else! This is no longer a negotiation. If you tell your child do this or I cane you, are expecting anything less than compliance? |
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