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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:23pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Lol! I started watching from 35mins so i thought in joined in 1st half. But the game too short na. SA fans supporting Athletico. Anyways, its expected. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:25pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
safarigirl: Athletico scored at 59th min. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:26pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:27pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Icon4s:I was counting in 90 mins, not 60....my TV has this tag blocking it at the edge, so didn't see the number in front of 9 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:27pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
after we defeated the south African Sundowns team..... wetin u dey expect from them?? looooollll.... to hate ofcos! hahahahahaha Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:29pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Coming from you Sir.... then I am super satisfied.... I myself have identified like three to four players in that team that are very very good.... not very good... but very very... ![]() Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:29pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe: Your 11-12 minutes does not include stoppage time. How many matches have you watched and the ref called off the game on the dot of 90'? Yobo maybe listed as a defender at Standard liege but it's very clear the Nigerian coaches still saw him as an attacker which he was known for before signing for Standard liege and he was rightly registered by FIFA as an attacker. Just like Mikel being made to play attacking midfield for the super eagles while he played deeper for Chelsea. Disu brought Yobo in to shore up the midfield, not to play as a defender. Does it make tactical sense to play 5 man defensive formation to protect a 1 goal lead against Costa Rica of all teams. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:31pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Mickael2: I had to look at your moniker again to be sure u are the one making this comment. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:32pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
safarigirl: lol! U better remove that tag. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:32pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe:If you were a manager with 12-15 minutes to play, will you pull off a striker and put a defender on to play a 5 man defence against a presumed weaker opponent in a home game? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:33pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: Funny. Which sure up midfield. Ten minutes to go. Have you not heard that term before? Will you say thirteen or fifteen? It I ten minutes to go. At that time, it is very basic to remove the attacking player for a defending one to prevent a goal. You sure up the midfield when the opposing team is controlling the midfield. This is past. Yobo was a Standard Liège defender when he was called up. It is so clear. If we needed an extra striker, We would not drop Emmanuel Aniele. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:35pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe: This is not my first time of watching both Ogu and Onazi play for either National team or their clubs idea and I can authoritatively tell you that Onazi is three in one. The point Michael2 is trying to make will not sell because we have seen Onazi played very well as a CMF. We don't know the instructions given to him in that match, so we can't give a sane judgment about his game. Besides, it was not Onazi's fault if players can't control and retain a ball before giving a good pass. Habi, na only Onazi dey for field? He argued that Modric doesn't tackle, I disagree with that because he does that very well. This is just a game out of many. John Ogu was there when Italy dominated the Midfield in a friendly. Ain't you aware? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:37pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: In such a tournament, you will not play with any team. Let alone a tough group as we were. Costa Rica were not seen as a write off, if you think so. They ended up beating the favorite team in our Group, Germany that ended up last on the log. Despite stars like Erico Kern, Andreas Voss and Christian Timm. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:38pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe: Any proficient manager will make chances in view of the added time. I've seen games were 2 goals were scored in additional time. Standard additional time these days is 3 minutes. We are talking football not basketball where the buzzer sounds on the dot of the clock. Please answer the question in my previous post. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:40pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Akpeyi is disaster in waiting. He and Ikechuwu Ezenwa are not needed in the National team. Enyeama will come back after we qualify for the world cup. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:40pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
forgiveness: We are talking of this game and the point Mickael2 made. It is a clear point and you are dribbling with play very well. We played better as a team when Ogu came on. Mickael2 explained the precise reason why the team played better because of his mobile movement to the ball when we were in possession. Saying Onazi played well means you are missing the basics of the point he is making. Onazi's style of movement off the ball broke passing channels. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:41pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: Disu's team was leading 1-0. They needed a second goal. They laboured so hard and dominated their opponent. Yet the second goal did not come. At 79th min he pulls off the lone goal scorer, Julius Aghahowa, who is a striker, and brings in a Standard liege defender. Even a novice in the game can easily explain the tactical switch. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:43pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: There is no standard additional time. It is at the discretion of the referee. It could even be no minute. Which question do you want answered? Attacker for defender is basic. As soon as Icon4s saw that it was in the 79th minute, you saw his reaction. Secure the lead. It is basic. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:44pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: So Yobo came in to shore up the midfield? I thought you initially said was there as a striker? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:47pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe: Unfortunately that wasn't the case. We weren't under severe pressure from the Costa Ricans. We should have got an insurance goal but our strikers kept hitting the ball off target. Lagos fans were cheering the team on! In such a situation, do you think any coach would have decided to invite pressure on his team by switching to a 5 man defence when we were closer to score a second goal than conceeding. The Costa Ricans got a lucky break on a rare attack which resulted in Okoye bringing down an unrushing striker. Disu would have been murdered in Lagos if he played defensive football against Costa Rica. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:52pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: Basic tactics. Tunde Disu attacked in mass for almost Eighty minutes. No one will crucify him for trying to secure the lead. Bringing in a defender does not stop the team from attacking. It reduces gaps at the back. This is very basic. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:53pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
But you really think Enyeama will make a u-turn.... it won't be bad having him back shaa ooo.... coz I am tired of all this goalkeeping crisis. I know we have young Nwokolor and Emma Daniel.... but Rohr haven't given them their debuts yet and he wouldn't do so in a competitive fixture as crucial as the cameroun double header.... We also have Alampasu but he needs to step in his clubside.... I just hope Ikeme is fit when D-day comes calling.... forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:58pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: We must not wait for the club sides to build our stars. If Alampasu flourishes with the Super Eagles, clubs will want him. Just as we say let them step up in their clubs, clubs are also waiting to see who pops up in National teams. Shola Ameobi was on the bench of Newcastle. When he had an assist and goal against Italy, Alan Pardew gave him a run with the club where they went unbeaten for a while. I say we identify our best talents and help them grow. I repeat, if Alloy Agu does not know the job, he should step down. Ike Shorunmu was wonderful with young keepers like Enyeama and Ejide. Why we sacked him, beats my imagination. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:00pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
SharpJoe: Oga, what was the role given to Onazi? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:00pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: You have just painted the true unbiased picture. There is no way Rohr will Bank on Nwokolo, Alampasu or Daniel for any of the qualifiers games this year. Any one of them may at best come in as a 3rd choice who we know will nt even make match day squad. All those saying Akpeyi and Ezenwa should be dropped should suggest here names of goalies that they feel are ready to face SA in June and Cameroun in August per adventure Ikeme is injured again. Drop them, drop them. But name replacement na. Nothing. Enyeama should be allow to continue collecting his pension. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:02pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
All of you discussing Nigeria 99..... it is not fair oooo.... haba!!!!! what about young indomie gens like us?? ![]() ![]() ![]() Me that was my first ever international football tournament as I was right in Lagos when Costa rica, Germany and Paraguay all came calling... I remember a few happy moments and the songs especially..... ![]() But I Neva sabi anything about tactics then naa..... ![]() In fact.... new promotions.... Sir GoodJoe.... your new room is now in the halls of experience.... Sir Goldfish... you dey there already but now you must go upstairs...... new promotion.... ![]() Sir Icon4s na baba already.. na him dey occupy topmost floor... ... from now on.... he is the arch guardian Elite..... no more just arch guardian again... I mean wetin sef....?? ![]() make una take una time oooo.... Yobo's position for Nigeria 99 don become hot topic naa ... and I no fit say anything.... ![]() ![]() I just dey look like Dumbo.... ![]() Biaa.... biko Safarigirl.... abeg come make we start talk our own....... ![]() Wetin Iwobi dey up to abeg? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 2:02pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
forgiveness: What was the role giving to John Ogu? The point is simple. We played better when John Ogu came on because of his off the ball movements to the ball to link up play. Onazi did not do this well and that is why our link ups were bad. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:02pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Icon4s:Costa Rica scored a few seconds after this action. Its very clear this is a flat back four, I wonder where the "extra defender" Yobo was. cc TheGoodJoe, SharpJoe
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 2:04pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Icon4s: That is why I felt this Friendly window was a good try out for our young goal keepers. However, Rohr had a different plan of using it to prepare his team for a physical clash against Cameroon. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:09pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
Exactly Sir Icon4s.... I hate to admit it but the truth is this: "Expect to see Akepyi or Ezenwa in goal if Ikeme is out... especially Akpeyi for all his jittery showings sometimes.... because Rohr will only start or play keepers he had tested in actual games before" Nwokolor, Alampasu, Daniel are for the future.... we should just pray Ikeme is fit and ready when the Lions come roaring... Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 2:09pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: Icon4s already explained that Yobo could go forward. During Chelsea vs Barcelona in 2009, Guus Hiddink brought in Belletti to help secure the win. He was not positionally disciplined and it caused Chelsea to lose. So the screen shot can not give detailed explanation but the changes showed the Basic dynamics that took place. You did not know Yobo was a Standard Liège defender. Now you know. I repeat if we needed an extra striker/forward in our squad, we would not drop Aniele to carry a defender to play attack or shore up midfield. Yobo was a Standard Liège defender 1997/1998. This was 1999. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:11pm On Mar 25, 2017 |
goldfish80: Hahaha. I see. The thing is you think about tactics too straight . Dnt u feel: 1. The coach would have instructed one of the CB to join in the DMF duties. 2. U may have cropped off one of the defenders who could have been in a more advanced position. But i think d first is a more likely case bc playing an extra DMF puts pressure off the defenders which is mode effective than playing an extra defender. |
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