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Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by SacrodAYAN: 11:41pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Jazmiynne: Just seeing this..... Nice one.... Let's enjoy the wait |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Greedgod: 11:57pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
davide470:wen jobs aint forthcoming or unnecessarily difficult wont people try and have fun. 1 Like |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 3:46am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Thavybe:I don know now |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:03am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Nice contributions from jazmiyne, longman6 and LaRochelle. To d guy that asked about the devils basket, mine was "if you don't have money, you don't spend it". The 30s I was asked to meditate on it was not funny cos almost a million things flew across my kind at the same time and even got confused. Back to our discussion, if you check the history of all developed countries and even rapidly developing countries, one thing you see they have in common is a solid educational system. Why we emphasise is on grade is because our educational system gives no room for the development of technical abilities, the sole reason while companies establish graduate trainees programmes or on job trainings, but 1st class and 2.1 graduates are often the best to execute it, not that 2.2 graduates are bad, some are victims if circumstances especially in public universities where your project supervisor can decide to give you a C cos you refused to do a simple thing probably because you were tired and holds that against you. Getting a 1.0 or 2.1 isn't a joke especially in public universities, thus most companies see such graduates as adaptable. Now our educational system in Nigeria uses more of the theoretical approach rather than the practical approach..... Am of the opinion that students should be taught theories in only their first year in school and in exceptional cases the second year. And am of the opinion that no matter your course of study, some fundamental trainings should be part of your education, basically agriculture and energy generation. The reason being that, two most important things to a man is food and electricity, talking about food, it isnt bad if 70% of the population has at least a plot of land to practice farming, the advent of technology has made things easier now as you have equipments that will do virtually everything for you 1 Like |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Jazmiynne: 4:34am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: Ye! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:40am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Am also of the opinion that we don't need to depend on government for electricity, how much is 4000MW that a staggering over 190 million people depend on it, Egypt and South Africa generates about 36,000MW and 50,000MW for a population less than 60 million people and is one of the sole reason for their industrial growth. They exploited other avenues of electricity generation other than gas, I believe it's not until you study engineering before you can contribute to power generation, have seen many aboki's with their locally made touch, people developed solar and the likes, a solid training right from secondary school and even at the University level of some of these things will go a long way in leading our industrial revolution. There is no way poverty will not be reduced if everybody is self sufficient, while it's of great importance that you have a solid understanding of your course of choice, it is also important that one learn some fundamental basic principles. A computer scientist that cant write codes successfully but only knows the theory behind it is of no use to me, an engineer that cant generate 1MW throughout his life time, mehn I don't know what to say, but is it their faults or the system. It's totally the system cos students are not encouraged to be innovative, like I do say, the extent to which you will get rich is directly proportional to the problems you solve. Certificate won't make you rich, doing a job won't make you rich, only work makes you rich and you are only working when you are solving a problem. But you only thrive when the system allows you to 3 Likes |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by kaboninc(m): 4:40am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: We're you in the Debate Society? |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:41am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne:Can't remember but not up to 30 times though |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:42am On Mar 31, 2017 |
kaboninc:Have never been part of any and wish not to |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by kaboninc(m): 4:43am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: You write like one.. . |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:45am On Mar 31, 2017 |
kaboninc:Funny though, I don't like debates, maybe my school made it seem that way, it was always an art class thing............. |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by kaboninc(m): 4:46am On Mar 31, 2017 |
So, chuking my mouth.. . We failed. The system failed. Systems don't run themselves. We do. So system failed because those who run these systems have failed. Only who we recognize that we've talked....and we are determined to be successful, then we're just.... |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 4:50am On Mar 31, 2017 |
kaboninc:Yes we are still operating a failed system, that is the sad thing, like Mr. Tonye Cole twitted, Nigeria youths expects these old men to hand over power to us, no we need to take it by force, the revolution needs to start |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Jazmiynne: 4:59am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Mayoor, I have a feeling that at this stage in our history, everyone in Nigeria Or at least almost everyone already knows that our educational system has loopholes that don't exactly make for educational quality. But here's the twist.... What are you doing about it? What are we doing about it? I think that this common knowledge we all seem to have about our faulty educational system has become an excuse for complacency where it should be a motivation to excel against the odds. The world is a global village right now and almost everything happens on the Internet. So, Nigeria hasn't yet made technical skills an integral part of her educational system, does that stop the boy who loves the ideas behind computer games? Or that girl who can't seem to get enough of clothing designs? Or the youngster who is fascinated by shoes? It shouldn't and it hasn't been stopping very many individuals. Unfortunately, it's also been stopping or at least limiting a great number. You would hear lazy students in school boast about how "if I do mistake enter Jand ehnnn, na first class I go blow. Na dis our naija jus de fall person hand anyhow" Really? :-They would always be the first to quote how all the great men of the world are dropouts. The truth however, is that when they say those heroic dropout stories, they forget that the planting methods on a rocky soil differs from that on plain fertile ground - but at the end of the day a good farmer would do his best to ensure that both of them thrive successfully. So yes, our system is bad. But let's help our self by reducing the volume of out pity party (cos really we've been singing so long and no one seems to be dancing the pity song alongside us) and instead think of how to thrive in this faulty system. Again I'd say, the Society and the System aren't wholly to blamed. The Mindset of the average Nigerian is also a key player in the matter. Really, if the society and system get changed today, is the average Nigerian student truly ready for that change? 3 Likes |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Jazmiynne: 5:03am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: Ah no no no.... That must have been serious impartiality! Abi na you be the class captain wey de write am abi? ![]() We need to revisit your school and correct those old lists o ![]() ![]() |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 5:29am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne:Always be in the good books of your class captain |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 5:41am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne:Exactly, the average Nigerian student mentality is actually so poor and sometimes religion also affect us, used to tell friends way back that prayers does not cover up for your laziness, if you carry an empty brain to do exam, I swear speak in tongues from now till tomorrow, nothing will happen na F sure or if you are lucky E. But the only way to set people's priority right is through education. Education starts from our homes, the trainings from parents sometimes goes a long way, but self realisation and self discipline also matters alot and our government also need to take responsibilities for somethings. The reason why religious bodies and private individuals are thriving in some areas is because the government has failed us. Education and health care delivery should never be in the hands of private individuals cos it will result into exploitation and that is what we are experiencing today. The government needs to change while we also need to better our mindsets. 2 Likes |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Ugegbe92(f): 6:10am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Very true. Just as we know, faith without works is dead. Self discipline is key regardless of the type of home training we have. If you are a disciplined and determined individual and set a target for yourself, all things being equal, you'll achieve at least 70%. So, it's time for people to realize that academic excellence depends on their own efforts, whether in a private or federal institution. mayoor15: 1 Like |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Jazmiynne: 6:35am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Exactly, the average Nigerian student mentality is actually so poor and sometimes religion also affect us, used to tell friends way back that prayers does not cover up for your laziness, if you carry an empty brain to do exam, I swear speak in tongues from now till tomorrow, nothing will happen na F sure or if you are lucky E. Hahahahahahaaa lolz at Uniport we used to have one fellowship group that always seemed to attract the 100level students of each set. Their own prayer point was: "For me to fail..... A child of God..... " (Uniport student wey no know this prayer, that wan na Uniport student? ![]() Lolz No, I do not think that religion is in itself a problem for our educational quality. What is a problem though, is religious fanaticism. It is fanaticism that would make a student spend more time in prayer groups than with books and expect to come tops. It is fanaticism that would make someone to tell me how he didn't write anything on his answer sheet, while the lecturer was marking he put two question marks like "??" And suddenly the person recording it miraculously saw it as 77 and he got an A in the course... ![]() ![]() People love to make excuses on God even when the Bible has clearly told us that we should give God something to bless.... And that faith without works is dead. I am a religious person and it didn't affect my study habits negatively. In fact that gave me ginja to study harder. The reason is simple: Because my Bible-trained conscience would not permit me to involve in any form of examination malpractice, I already know beforehand that I am fighting a stronger battle. I understand that if for any reason I enter the exam Hall with an empty brain for that course, na fail be dt. So I put in twice the effort because right from the start I know say na only me waka come. Moreso, because I know that before I start any exam I am going to pray to God to remind me of everything I know, have read, have seen, have heard, have had any connection with in relation with the exam, I understand that if it's an empty brain there's nothing there for God to remind me of. So in worst case scenarios where I feel unprepared for an exam, I familiarize my mind with information I feel will be useful such that by the time I ramble a little the examiner would be certain to see some good points. My point is, religion isn't the problem, it is the people practicing the religion and how they practice it that make it an issue Education and health care delivery should never be in the hands of private individuals cos it will result into exploitation and that is what we are experiencing today. Education solely in the private sector?? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 6:44am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne:You self hear the 77 story, it's like dem share d story in every school o, education and health care system should never be in the hands of private individuals, I feel government should be responsible for that. But that won't he possible cos our so called leaders have the best schools and hospitals in Nigeria. |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Longman6(m): 8:53am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: Guy,this power generation problem would be solved within the next decade, massive private sector investment is on in that area, not even the politicians can stop that. On the issue of grades i would like to suggest that there is noting special about a First class or 2.1 in Nigeria anybody can archieve it though most public universities make it appear unattainable. You probably wont be passionate about the educational system as you are now, when you get a job, rather you would be seeking certificates or certifications from world class institutions depending on where you work though. Graduate Trainee is for the masses(my self inclusive), our mates who went to Yale or Imperial college come back to Nigeria to sign contract papers and not write aptitude test, Forget that slogan of youths fighting to gain power(thats half truth) Nigeria is jaded, Nigeria is not a place where smart people win, you want to be an entrepreneur in a country where the interest rate is more than 14%? where people like Dangote get tax free incentives and interest free loans and you that is a startup is running up and down for guarantors..... You can only be a successful entrepreneur(like get a good ROI) in Nigeria if your idea is dammm creative and you are lucky, Good people like Tony Cole should help youths press for an inclusive society(well he is already doing that) On the issue of health, Buhari proved to be a scam when he went abroad to seek for medical attention, and Lai mohammed is shouting patronize made in Nigerian goods, who are they deceiving, a country where the budget allocation for the ministry of information is more than that allocated to the ministry of agriculture, government isnt smart enough to utilize the health sector disadvantages to its benefit, neither would any reasonable health care firm invest massively without doubt. in as much as i wouldn't want to admit,for individual success prayer or charm is key for individual success in Nigeria than rational thinking is,nobody(most) thinks rationally in this country again, Na joke o:You are presently seeking for job in an energy company, an accounting firm, an FMCG organization and a bank, In a sane country you would pass for a confused individual but in Nigeria you are quite ambitious. Do you and i really have a choice? maybe we do but that path is uncertain and long 3 Likes |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Nobody: 9:46am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Longman, you can actually be in pursuit of opportunities in the FMCG, Consulting, Banking etc. and not be as confused as it seems on the surface. Your bias might actually be towards a specific department, not the whole. An IT personnel could cross into various sectors in search for dynamics and bigger challenges in the "IT domain". |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 9:58am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Longman6:I swear I just weak, this country tire me, @ my future employers, abeg transfer me out of 9ja you won't be disappointed at all on how I go run things over der, you know why Nigerians abroad do great things because, the environment is enabling for man to thrive, African is blessed with many brilliant brains, don't mind me I feel so concerned about power cos not only does it drive industrialisation, I like been on my system, can do that 22 of 24 hours... |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Longman6(m): 10:10am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Thavybe: Well you are right, but most time we throw passion away for the obvious. |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Longman6(m): 10:23am On Mar 31, 2017 |
mayoor15: Dear Mayowa, we have noticed your zeal to succeed and your unending desire for excellence which has put the firm aviation's segment on a position of enviable stance in just one year. To this end the board has decided that you be the one to kick start the Iraq branch of our energy consulting arm.please accept my sincere wishes. Adaobi Sanusi Global head of human capital Sahara Group See what i said, you also want to leave the country?.... why not run things here to by following Tony cole's advice on twitter |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by mayoor15(m): 10:43am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Longman6:I used to think I won't leave this country but everyday, things get more complex BTW, the 3 co-founders of Sahara actually at a point in time before starting Sahara lived outside d country and that in a way played a key role in d successes they've achieved thus far. If they had remained in Nigeria, maybe Sahara Group won't be where it is today, besides have gotten to realise there is a need for some form of exposure that who create some amazing mentality more than I have now.... |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Nobody: 11:03am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne:Nah, did you submit your essay and did you get the mail |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by edunho: 11:11am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Na small pikin dey worry d boy...him wan use d babe catch trips...him no know say kpekere no b d same thing as plantain chip Jazmiynne: |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Jazmiynne: 11:16am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Longman6: In as much as i wouldn't want to admit,for individual success prayer or charm is key for individual success in Nigeria than rational thinking is,nobody(most) thinks rationally in this country again, Na joke o: I think that it is indeed possible to attain success in Nigeria. The big question however, is: What do you define as Success? Individual perception of success determines whether an individual feels he has attained success or not. If success for an individual is amassing infinite wealth.... Then I think it becomes easy to see why one would feel that success is unreachable in Nigeria - very easy because indeed the odds don't exactly favour that for the regular Tom in Nigeria. However, if an individual defines success like I've chosen to define it as the state/condition where I have pursued my passions and excelled at them; then it becomes easy to see that success is indeed attainable in Nigeria. If success comes across to an individual as a state where you have inner peace, a strong relationship with God and the fulfillment that comes with living your dreams, then it is possible. Now living your dreams would not necessarily translate to wealth, it may, but not necessarily so. And it wouldn't happen if we don't understand this simple truth that your dreams must not always culminate in wealth. If more youths understand this, we'd be more willing to expand horizons and dare mental boundaries to fulfill our dreams. Gradually, the Nation becomes populated with bright individuals intent on a purpose to fulfill their dreams - Productivity would have no where to hide. And then perhaps, our progeny could have the Nigeria we wish for. 1 Like |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Nobody: 12:08pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Too many brains in one thread ![]() Me likey ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by Longman6(m): 12:19pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Jazmiynne: Well you are right, success is such a loose word, it can mean anything though Nigerians stereotypes seems to agree that being rich is the definition of success, unlike the American society where you see a varied definition of what success is, they cherish things like having a family member that went to war, writing a book, giving to philanthropy, starting something amongst many other personalized definition of success. But here in Nigeria, the unasked question when you meet most people is: "who are you" which is majorly about your financial standing, depending on you answer that question in the course of the conversation through the mind of people, you are put on a scale. Nigeria would make sense the day rules are respected, people shun sycophancy, people stop financial discrimination, and start asking the question: am i really doing the right thing? in all their endeavors. 1 Like |
Re: Sahara Group Graduate Program 2017 by edunho: 12:29pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
guys today is friday.....where are we turning up?? We cant allow d failure of d Nigerian system to stop us from having fun 1 Like |
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