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Re: ...... by Raintaker(m): 11:53am On Apr 01, 2017
ikupakuti:


No probs.

The book is ATTAORAH

Name gotten from history

Used to be a human (check my former posts on this page)

U‘r wlcm.
thanks
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:06pm On Apr 01, 2017
ikupakuti:
^^^

#It seems you didnt get me quite well. The Quran has got means & interpretations @ all levels (realms) only that its meaning differs in each level due to the differences in there natures.

The Quran is the name (word) of God, therefore as such cannot exceed its native realm which is LAHUT, so there is no Quran in pre-existence.

If you say pre-existence, pre-eternal, begininess- those are attributes of HAHUT.
The realm of “Uncreatedness“ (LAHUT) of which the names of God, his powers, attributes, decrees, forces, ideas, wills & all other attributes are natives, stems from HAHUT.

So, to interprete Imam‘s statement-:

The “ALLAH“ he‘s refering to is the invariable & the intrinsic essence of Godhood a.k.a (HAHUT)

The sentence “the speech of God comes from him“ is an allusion to the realm of the speech (LAHUT) being an offshoot of HAHUT

“and nothing created comes from ALLAH most high“ is just a description of the nature of LAHUT (principality of the speech).

# “Earth folding“ lols...I‘m sure thats an anglicized yoruba phrase (KANAKO) a.k.a OFE.

They all fall under teleporting, whether one is teleporting an item or self. What I was trying to say up there is that, beings of higher sphares already have that capability by default, its just like copy & paste to them. (cope from location -a- & paste on location -b-).

#SIGILS- its the 7 symbols engraved on the ring of Sulaiman (as) which gave him dominion over the spirits of which the first one is a pentagram, very common.

#CIRCUIT:- I meant the circuit of Asif earlier discussed.

Thanks

Thanks bro....(LAHUT) being an offshoot of HAHUT cleared the haze. I think I can connect the dots there now.

#KANAKO (ofe)....lolz, so to be able to perform such feats then the like of Asif and others as to be operating at higher realm. Is it jinn that normally metamorphosis to ruhaniyya or human being. Because of you saying about Khidir and Asif becoming one. Thanks for that beautiful example, copy and paste stuff.

#SIGIL, so it is a sort of "symbol" . Pentagram well familiar with though never know is part of Prophet SULAIMAN(as) ring.

#You didn't describe the CIRCUIT in details before, just made mention of it. Is it related to Asif's prayer numerolog angle?

Thanks.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 1:26pm On Apr 01, 2017
^^^

The JINNS, RUHANIYYA, ANGELS (other than aligning to the nature of a lower realm accessible to them in order to access it) cannot exceed/transcend there native realm but can only rise through the ranks therein, thats what JIBRIL (as) was alluding to in the word of God Q 37:164.

Its only MAN (through his spirit) that can access all the realms. Its only MAN (his spirit) that could hold in trust the sirri of ISMUL-A‘ZAM Q33:72, also such position requires the personification of all the name/attributes passively @ once, which is impossible even for the angels coz there atomic configuration is simple & not complex like that of the MAN. Thats why God told them in Q2:30- that he knew what they know not (that there confg. cannot withstand the rigor that comes with his vice-garency), until then, the angels have no idea of the high names which are extentions of the ISMUL-A‘ZAM.

So, Asif, Alkhidr e.t.c metamorphosed or got absorbed permanently into the state of the ruhaniyyun while alive : too much of YA HAYYU YA QAYYUM can achieve that if you are intrested. Lolz

#Yeah, its actually his SIGNET (sceptre of his reign/prophethood).

#Yeah, I‘m also looking for it, I‘ve only got the story. I think Asif developed it through numerology.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 2:43pm On Apr 01, 2017
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 9:50pm On Apr 01, 2017
ikupakuti:
^^^

The JINNS, RUHANIYYA, ANGELS (other than aligning to the nature of a lower realm accessible to them in order to access it) cannot exceed/transcend there native realm but can only rise through the ranks therein, thats what JIBRIL (as) was alluding to in the word of God Q 37:164.

Its only MAN (through his spirit) that can access all the realms. Its only MAN (his spirit) that could hold in trust the sirri of ISMUL-A‘ZAM Q33:72, also such position requires the personification of all the name/attributes passively @ once, which is impossible even for the angels coz there atomic configuration is simple & not complex like that of the MAN. Thats why God told them in Q2:30- that he knew what they know not (that there confg. cannot withstand the rigor that comes with his vice-garency), until then, the angels have no idea of the high names which are extentions of the ISMUL-A‘ZAM.

So, Asif, Alkhidr e.t.c metamorphosed or got absorbed permanently into the state of the ruhaniyyun while alive : too much of YA HAYYU YA QAYYUM can achieve that if you are intrested. Lolz

#Yeah, its actually his SIGNET (sceptre of his reign/prophethood).

#Yeah, I‘m also looking for it, I‘ve only got the story. I think Asif developed it through numerology.

Thanks bros...you're precise, concise and articulated. Truly, man has been can created for endless fiestas of spiritual advancement, if only we can discern and get our priority right. This, you've epitomized in above post. Thank once more.

How do come about BASMALAH being the formulae of Asif? And what is your take on Muaqatta't ?

Thanks
Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 11:03pm On Apr 01, 2017
ikupakuti:
^^^

The JINNS, RUHANIYYA, ANGELS (other than aligning to the nature of a lower realm accessible to them in order to access it) cannot exceed/transcend there native realm but can only rise through the ranks therein, thats what JIBRIL (as) was alluding to in the word of God Q 37:164.

Its only MAN (through his spirit) that can access all the realms. Its only MAN (his spirit) that could hold in trust the sirri of ISMUL-A‘ZAM Q33:72, also such position requires the personification of all the name/attributes passively @ once, which is impossible even for the angels coz there atomic configuration is simple & not complex like that of the MAN. Thats why God told them in Q2:30- that he knew what they know not (that there confg. cannot withstand the rigor that comes with his vice-garency), until then, the angels have no idea of the high names which are extentions of the ISMUL-A‘ZAM.

So, Asif, Alkhidr e.t.c metamorphosed or got absorbed permanently into the state of the ruhaniyyun while alive : too much of YA HAYYU YA QAYYUM can achieve that if you are intrested. Lolz

#Yeah, its actually his SIGNET (sceptre of his reign/prophethood).

#Yeah, I‘m also looking for it, I‘ve only got the story. I think Asif developed it through numerology.

Mmmmmmmm interesting,

U said ": too much of YA HAYYU YA QAYYUM can achieve that if you are intrested" elaborate on dat
Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:02am On Apr 02, 2017
^^^

I think he meant CONSTANTLY CHANTING them.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 8:22am On Apr 02, 2017
@LadunaI,

#On how I got to know about the relationship between Asif & Basmallah, well, what I can say is that, there is a stage you get to in the sulook of ISMU-L-A‘ZAM that makes it impossible for some details to elude you, no matter how minute or disguised they are. When one gets to a certain stage, one does not need to have served (lazim) a name to procure its esoterics. Those 3 lines are procured in the course of sulook in the realm of ISM-L-A‘ZAM, they are like lens that makes you see through. So, given all these indicies, a mere glance @ the affair of Asif & Sulaiman as recounted in the Quran will give one a pointer as to where they are coming from.

#The muaqatta‘t- I‘ll assume you meant those initials of some 29 suras.

#A robust detail on them will require venturing into the Quantum of which you know there is a cul-de-sac, but then a prefatoty remark on them wont do any harm.

#The Zaati is sort of bi- in nature. We have the duality aspect & the individuality aspect termed as

الوحدانية و الفردانية

Unity & dissesion, therefor all emanations in terms of names, attributes, epithets, creation etc have that signature of “duality“ stamped on them. This explains the idea of dualism in nature. Singular & plural, male & female, good & bad, odd & even, life & death, kaf & nun etc.

So, in the realm of ISM-L-A‘ZAM, those suras with those initials are inclined towards the individuality of the Zati & the others are inclined towards the duality of it & then al-fatiha again being the epitome of both.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 8:25am On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:


Mmmmmmmm interesting,

U said ": too much of YA HAYYU YA QAYYUM can achieve that if you are intrested" elaborate on dat


Mad engagment...like some 174 million recitations lols
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 8:26am On Apr 02, 2017
Empiree:
^^^
I think he meant CONSTANTLY CHANTING them.

Very right.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:32am On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


Mad engagment...like some 174 million recitations lols
Haba sheikh....174 mila?
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 8:39am On Apr 02, 2017
LadunaI:

Haba sheikh....174 mila?


Lols it was just a joke...but its attainable...my sheikh did hasbuna llahu... Of over 120 million & I dont think it took him up to 20 years.
Re: ...... by Hkana: 8:59am On Apr 02, 2017
Ma sha Allah.
Ikupakuti, I have a question regarding assigning numbers. Is it that when you want to recite a particular amount of du'a you make the intention "I want to recite xyz amount of du'a within abc period of time?"


Another thing is, I'd really like if you could point me to how to know (with clarity) what number to assign to what du'a. I know you'd say you've spoken about it previously.. Lol.
But honestly, a little bit more break down would be nice.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 9:36am On Apr 02, 2017
Hkana:
Ma sha Allah.
Ikupakuti, I have a question regarding assigning numbers. Is it that when you want to recite a particular amount of du'a you make the intention "I want to recite xyz amount of du'a within abc period of time?"


Another thing is, I'd really like if you could point me to how to know (with clarity) what number to assign to what du'a. I know you'd say you've spoken about it previously.. Lol.
But honestly, a little bit more break down would be nice.


#Yes, in prayers its preferable to be specific even to the last details....like in salat...you stand @ sunset to offer magrib in its due time...but God still want you to indicate so, its even a condition to do so.

#For now, you can start with asma‘ul husna. Check for some key name that befits certain needs e.g

LATEEF (129) : for benign in affairs, if you want to recite LATEEF its self or any ayat that defines the state you are aiming for like Q42:19, then you can recite in multiples as much as you can. Some will say I want LUTF everyday so they repeat it for 7 consecutive days e.g the monday to cover every mondays of their life...etc. Some will do it @ the begining of every new year with the intention of covering the whole year. Etc

QAHAR 306 : for subjugation (persons or affairs) Q6:61, Q86:10, ETC

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 10:00am On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:
@LadunaI,

#On how I got to know about the relationship between Asif & Basmallah, well, what I can say is that, there is a stage you get to in the sulook of ISMU-L-A‘ZAM that makes it impossible for some details to elude you, no matter how minute or disguised they are. When one gets to a certain stage, one does not need to have served (lazim) a name to procure its esoterics. Those 3 lines are procured in the course of sulook in the realm of ISM-L-A‘ZAM, they are like lens that makes you see through. So, given all these indicies, a mere glance @ the affair of Asif & Sulaiman as recounted in the Quran will give one a pointer as to where they are coming from.

#The muaqatta‘t- I‘ll assume you meant those initials of some 29 suras.

#A robust detail on them will require venturing into the Quantum of which you know there is a cul-de-sac, but then a prefatoty remark on them wont do any harm.

#The Zaati is sort of bi- in nature. We have the duality aspect & the individuality aspect termed as

الوحدانية و الفردانية

Unity & dissesion, therefor all emanations in terms of names, attributes, epithets, creation etc have that signature of “duality“ stamped on them. This explains the idea of dualism in nature. Singular & plural, male & female, good & bad, odd & even, life & death, kaf & nun etc.

So, in the realm of ISM-L-A‘ZAM, those suras with those initials are inclined towards the individuality of the Zati & the others are inclined towards the duality of it & then al-fatiha again being the epitome of both.
Uhhmmmm another sort of esoteric there. I have to meditate over these for a while for further pruning.

From the last paragraph though, in essence, those suras with those initials are inclined towards singularity of Allah(swt). Does that means, those suras are holding keys to HAHUT and LAHUT? Lols

Thanks I can see where the sura Fathia is Ummu kitab. And why Allah(swt) has divided it between HIMSELF and HIS servant, as stated in hadith.
ikupakuti:


Lols it was just a joke...but its attainable...my sheikh did hasbuna llahu... Of over 120 million & I dont think it took him up to 20 years.


Tell me something. Does that means right from onset, he (sheikh) had the INTENTION of doing that much? Then set out to accomplish it.

How one can heighten ones HIMMA for such endeavour without unnecessary pressure.

Thanks

Modified:
I think that's what @Hkana asked up there.
Re: ...... by Hkana: 10:07am On Apr 02, 2017
Thanks for that..
Do those numbers include the addition of the "ya" prefix to those names?

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Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 11:26am On Apr 02, 2017
@LadunaI,

Holding keys to LAHUT & HAHUT ? Loooools

The Quantum Quran is strictly a LAHUT affair, HAHUT is a different realm entirely. Honestly, there is no way I‘ll explain further without “blaspheming“ lols.

#No o. His sheikh did it 92 m as prelims before going into khalwa for it sef. So he sought permission to also engage in it from his sheikh. I was with him the moment he reached the 100 m mark & also the 120 m mark, he died shortly afterwards, may God bless his existence.

There are some ISMs my dad would call life ISMs. Those are the ones you hold onto for life, especially the one that shot you to limelight (wilayyah), you dont dump such.

#As for HIMMA, like you already know, its something that you going to decide by yourself, its all based on priority. Using myself as a case study, I hate anything mediocrity or average. I always go for the extreme in things I really like. If you teach me a field of learning, I‘ll come back one day & teach you back coz I‘m gonna start from where you stopped. If I really want something then may God help that thing coz I wont give up.

...and when you study the endeavours of some RIJALs, you cant help but develope automatic HIMMA. The favour of your Lord is limitless. Their are some people who really understand so & they are exploiting it big time.

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Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 11:30am On Apr 02, 2017
Hkana:
Thanks for that..

Do those numbers include the addition of the "ya" prefix to those names?



No. Do not include the “YA“ or “AL“ prefix of names in calculations except those that appear in ayats or in epithets like ذو الحلال و الإكرام etc.
Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 12:06pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


Mad engagment...like some 174 million recitations lols

Lol..... So Wats gonna happen after ward
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 12:17pm On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:

Lol..... So Wats gonna happen after ward

Lols....then we‘ll say to you Q38:80 & 81,
....and all goodies that comes with your newly aquired nature...so enjoy lol

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Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 12:20pm On Apr 02, 2017
I like to recite suratul Yasin everyday b4 going to bed. But one Alfa told me that if one can gather all the mubin in yasin, they are very powerful.

If anyone has knowledge about this pls drop wat u hav heard about it.

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Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 12:21pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


Lols....then we‘ll say to you Q38:80 & 81,

....and all goodies that comes with your newly aquired nature...so enjoy lol

I no get mind try am oo, just dey ask
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 12:24pm On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:

I no get mind try am oo, just dey ask

You, it wont take you long sef, you are half way in already.

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Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 12:31pm On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:
I like to recite suratul Yasin everyday b4 going to bed. But one Alfa told me that if one can gather all the mubin in yasin, they are very powerful.

If anyone has knowledge about this pls drop wat u hav heard about it.


Explain further...what do you mean by gather every mubin?
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:45pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:
@LadunaI,

Holding keys to LAHUT & HAHUT ? Loooools

The Quantum Quran is strictly a LAHUT affair, HAHUT is a different realm entirely. Honestly, there is no way I‘ll explain further without “blaspheming“ lols.

#No o. His sheikh did it 92 m as prelims before going into khalwa for it sef. So he sought permission to also engage in it from his sheikh. I was with him the moment he reached the 100 m mark & also the 120 m mark, he died shortly afterwards, may God bless his existence.

There are some ISMs my dad would call life ISMs. Those are the ones you hold onto for life, especially the one that shot you to limelight (wilayyah), you dont dump such.

#As for HIMMA, like you already know, its something that you going to decide by yourself, its all based on priority. Using myself as a case study, I hate anything mediocrity or average. I always go for the extreme in things I really like. If you teach me a field of learning, I‘ll come back one day & teach you back coz I‘m gonna start from where you stopped. If I really want something then may God help that thing coz I wont give up.

...and when you study the endeavours of some RIJALs, you cant help but develope automatic HIMMA. The favour of your Lord is limitless. Their are some people who really understand so & they are exploiting it big time.

Thanks. There's an eye opener in your post. I am quite agree with you, because from retrospect, aiming higher or for the best, always bring a strong HIMMA. In addition, the struggle of early RIJALs story inspired a lot, like the one you cited above.

@ those ISM one hold for life. Is it similar to those ( isms, awraads etc) that, if ones you miss it even for a single day, somebody's HEART become CONSCRIPTED, not until one engage in it till before one regain ones JOY, and HEART become DILATED with SAKINAH.

Thanks.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 12:55pm On Apr 02, 2017
LadunaI:


Thanks. There's an eye opener in your post. I am quite agree with you, because from retrospect, aiming higher or for the best, always bring a strong HIMMA. In addition, the struggle of early RIJALs story inspired a lot, like the one you cited above.

@ those ISM one hold for life. Is it similar to those ( isms, awraads etc) that, if ones you miss it even for a single day, somebody's HEART become CONSCRIPTED, not until one engage in it till before one regain ones JOY, and HEART become DILATED with SAKINAH.

Thanks.


Yes, when it gets to a certain stage.
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 1:01pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


Yes, when it gets to a certain stage.

OK...I see
Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 1:58pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


You, it wont take you long sef, you are half way in already.


Abeg Na money person wan make jare,

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Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 2:00pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:


Explain further...what do you mean by gather every mubin?

All the verses in yasin that end with mubin, I think there are about 7 mubin or so in yasin

I will be surprise if u dnt knw about this. Cos I was counting on u
Re: ...... by emekaRaj(m): 2:14pm On Apr 02, 2017
ikupakuti:
@LadunaI,

Holding keys to LAHUT & HAHUT ? Loooools

The Quantum Quran is strictly a LAHUT affair, HAHUT is a different realm entirely. Honestly, there is no way I‘ll explain further without “blaspheming“ lols.

#No o. His sheikh did it 92 m as prelims before going into khalwa for it sef. So he sought permission to also engage in it from his sheikh. I was with him the moment he reached the 100 m mark & also the 120 m mark, he died shortly afterwards, may God bless his existence.

There are some ISMs my dad would call life ISMs. Those are the ones you hold onto for life, especially the one that shot you to limelight (wilayyah), you dont dump such.

#As for HIMMA, like you already know, its something that you going to decide by yourself, its all based on priority. Using myself as a case study, I hate anything mediocrity or average. I always go for the extreme in things I really like. If you teach me a field of learning, I‘ll come back one day & teach you back coz I‘m gonna start from where you stopped. If I really want something then may God help that thing coz I wont give up.

...and when you study the endeavours of some RIJALs, you cant help but develope automatic HIMMA. The favour of your Lord is limitless. Their are some people who really understand so & they are exploiting it big time.
Re: ...... by ikupakuti(m): 2:22pm On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:


All the verses in yasin that end with mubin, I think there are about 7 mubin or so in yasin

I will be surprise if u dnt knw about this. Cos I was counting on u


Of course I Know alot about YASIN , people are crazy about it coz of its fiery nature & you know human being with whatever thats going to get their problem solved faster. It used to be my favourite before.

What I dont understand in your statement is what actually the man meant.

emekaRaj:


Abeg Na money person wan make jare,


Its reported in the hadiths that if you want wealth then engage Q56.
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 2:36pm On Apr 02, 2017
emekaRaj:


Abeg Na money person wan make jare,

Lols....don't worry money go come noww. @ikupatiku said Q56 that is solution.

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