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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 10:05am On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


You are funny.
I just told you, you don't know our history more than our Oba and our Eze Egi.

What is Eze in English language.?

What is Fire, water, food, cloth, house, woman,man etc in Ogba language
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by SGTsmith001: 11:43am On Apr 02, 2017
Malawian:

Try and change the way you chat, you are sounding like your other numerous aliases here
. nke a putara ginikwanu? bia nwokem kpachara anya gi ooo
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:


What is Eze in English language.?

What is Fire, water, food, cloth, house, woman,man etc in Ogba language


Why did you jump the Oba?

For your information Ogba kingdom has two languages that are somehow similar, Egi and Ibru. I am from the Egi clan.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 12:18pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Why did you jump the Oba?

For your information Ogba kingdom has two languages that are somehow similar, Egi and Ibru. I am from the Egi clan.


Answer my question

What is fire, house, food, cloth, etc in Ogba language


You guys are clown for one reason being that you can't claim Bini without speaking or looking like Binis.

How many Ogba people look like Binis or speak Bini


The Israelites stayed 430years in Egypt without losing their language

How many of them entered Egypt during the time of Joseph.? Just 70 in number


You receive curse for claiming who God never created you people to be

To claim Bini when God never made you guys Binis, is an insult to God which attracts curses

Go back and ask yourself these 2 questions

1) Why is it that Ogbas do not have physical appearance of a typical Bini man but do have that of Igbos.?

2) Why is it that Ogbas don't speak Binis.?


Start with yourself cool

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:27pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:



Answer my question

What is fire, house, food, cloth, etc in Ogba language


You guys are clown for one reason being that you can't claim Bini without speaking or looking like Binis.

How many Ogba people look like Binis or speak Bini


The Israelites stayed 430years in Egypt without losing their language

How many of them entered Egypt during the time of Joseph.? Just 70 in number


You receive curse for claiming who God never created you people to be

To claim Bini when God never made you guys Binis, is an insult to God which attracts curses

Go back and ask yourself these 2 questions

1) Why is it that Ogbas do not have physical appearance of a typical Bini man but do have that of Igbos.?

2) Why is it that Ogbas don't speak Binis.?


Start with yourself cool

Our ancestor Akalaka the father Of Ogba and Ekpeye Kingdom is from the ancient Benin.

I only know how to speak Egi and not Ibru.

Which of the Ogba language do you want me to speak.

Though our language especially we from Egi is similar to Igbo and Ikwerre it doesn't mean we are Igboid.

Forget about the Israelites, it is just a Bible story.

We call Igbos Nde Isoma.

I don't look like an Igbo man, I look like an Egi man.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 12:32pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Our ancestor Akalaka the father Of Ogba and Ekpeye Kingdom is from the ancient Benin.

I only know how to speak Egi and not Ibru.

Which of the Ogba language do you want me to speak.

Though our language especially we from Egi is similar to Igbo and Ikwerre it doesn't mean we are Igboid.

Forget about the Israelites, it is just a Bible story.

We call Igbos Nde Isoma.

I don't look like an Igbo man, I look like an Egi man.

How many Egi people look like Bini people
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:35pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:


How many Egi people look like Bini people


I have only been to Benin once and I didn't go there to look at people's faces.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 12:39pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


I have only been to Benin once and I didn't go there to look at people's faces.

Go back to Bini land and look at their faces

Esans look like Igbos because we share boundary

So when you get to Edo state, ask for the real Bini communities and visit them to see their faces

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:41pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:


Go back to Bini land and look at their faces

Esans look like Igbos because we share boundary

So when you get to Edo state, ask for the real Bini communities and visit them to see their faces
Hahaha, okay sir.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 12:44pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:

Hahaha, okay sir.


When you do, then will you realize that you guys are Igbos and not Binis cool
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:47pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:



When you do, then will you realize that you guys are Igbos and not Binis cool


Funny. We are not Igbos tongue
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 12:55pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Funny. We are not Igbos tongue

Now I know you are an Afonja because Ogbas I know keep quiet when I present this line of thought
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 12:57pm On Apr 02, 2017
ConqueredWest:


Now I know you are an Afonja because Ogbas I know keep quiet when I present this line of thought


I am from the Egi clan in the great Ogba kingdom and not an Afonja.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 3:28pm On Apr 02, 2017
SGTsmith001:
. nke a putara ginikwanu? bia nwokem kpachara anya gi ooo

Were ya ndumodu na-akwusi na-aghogbu onwe gị. Ị na-disgracing ndị Igbo agburu.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by SGTsmith001: 4:23pm On Apr 02, 2017
fratermathy:

Were ya ndumodu na-akwusi na-aghogbu onwe gị. Ị na-disgracing ndị Igbo agburu.
. mechie onu gia osiso .Mathis kpachara anya gi ooo

Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Malawian(m): 4:47pm On Apr 02, 2017
SGTsmith001:
. nke a putara ginikwanu? bia nwokem kpachara anya gi ooo
grin grin
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Dedetwo(m): 5:17pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Our ancestor Akalaka the father Of Ogba and Ekpeye Kingdom is from the ancient Benin.

I only know how to speak Egi and not Ibru.

Which of the Ogba language do you want me to speak.

Though our language especially we from Egi is similar to Igbo and Ikwerre it doesn't mean we are Igboid.

Forget about the Israelites, it is just a Bible story.

We call Igbos Nde Isoma.

I don't look like an Igbo man, I look like an Egi man.

Akalaka or Akaraka is Igbo word. I challenge you to proffer the denotation of Akalaka or Akaraka in Idu lexicon.

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Dedetwo(m): 5:22pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Our ancestor Akalaka the father Of Ogba and Ekpeye Kingdom is from the ancient Benin.

I only know how to speak Egi and not Ibru.

Which of the Ogba language do you want me to speak.

Though our language especially we from Egi is similar to Igbo and Ikwerre it doesn't mean we are Igboid.

Forget about the Israelites, it is just a Bible story.

We call Igbos Nde Isoma.

I don't look like an Igbo man, I look like an Egi man.

No fool ever migrated from Idu and walked pass Ekpoma and lived to tell the story. Even one of the Idu Oba attempted a southeastward moves and regretted his attempts.

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 5:22pm On Apr 02, 2017
Dedetwo:


Akalaka or Akaraka is Igbo word. I challenge you to proffer the denotation of Akalaka or Akaraka in Idu lexicon.

I was about to say the same thing. AKalaka is pure Igbo word which means destiny. I just laugh when I hear these people's explanations of how they are not Igbo but their so called ancestors have pure Igbo names instead of bini names.

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 5:43pm On Apr 02, 2017
Bini has a mixture of many languages ibo, yoruba, gbagyi and a bit of Asian tongue
For example Edo is a Japanese word and some binis look similar to Japanese people

English language itself is a mixture of many different languages and has went through so many reforms through the ages to get to it's present stage.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 6:14pm On Apr 02, 2017
Fremancipation:


I was about to say the same thing. AKalaka is pure Igbo word which means destiny. I just laugh when I hear these people's explanations of how they are not Igbo but their so called ancestors have pure Igbo names instead of bini names.
Thanks for the points you raised.... concerned bodies will look into it.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 6:49pm On Apr 02, 2017
SGTsmith001:
. mechie onu gia osiso .Mathis kpachara anya gi ooo
Ji nwayo na-eke ura gi ndi a grin
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 6:51pm On Apr 02, 2017
Dedetwo:


No fool ever migrated from Idu and walked pass Ekpoma and lived to tell the story. Even one of the Idu Oba attempted a southeastward moves and regretted his attempts.
Ole oba o bu? shocked
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 02, 2017
Dedetwo:


Akalaka or Akaraka is Igbo word. I challenge you to proffer the denotation of Akalaka or Akaraka in Idu lexicon.


Idu language? The Idu in Ibru?
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 7:04pm On Apr 02, 2017
Dedetwo:


No fool ever migrated from Idu and walked pass Ekpoma and lived to tell the story. Even one of the Idu Oba attempted a southeastward moves and regretted his attempts.


Go and tell that to the Oba of Ogba kingdom.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 7:05pm On Apr 02, 2017
cheruv:

Ji nwayo na-eke ura gi ndi a grin

Mma nye ndumodu ya tupu o bu akaha. The Igbo ndi m ma onye mere m na-amuta obere Igbo adighi blackmailers na umu nke ikpoasi.
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 7:44pm On Apr 02, 2017
fratermathy:


Mma nye ndumodu ya tupu o bu akaha. The Igbo ndi m ma onye mere m na-amuta obere Igbo adighi blackmailers na umu nke ikpoasi.
Brüdermatti gba mbo muta Igbo ndele...Igbo gi dika nga uyom na-akobashi ala. I ka no ahaba? smiley
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 7:45pm On Apr 02, 2017
CeoMYN:


Idu language? The Idu in Ibru?
Onye na-ashi na o shi Bini puta amaghi ihnye Idu bu

Oha bia hukwa oo gringrin
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 7:53pm On Apr 02, 2017
cheruv:

Brüdermatti gba mbo muta Igbo ndele...Igbo gi dika nga uyom na-akobashi ala. I ka no ahaba? smiley

Ee. M na Ahaba. Don't mind my amateurish Igbo. My Igbo GF is teaching me small small.

Give me few more months and I'll pass for any Ndi Igbo. Eziokwu!
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 8:02pm On Apr 02, 2017
fratermathy:


Ee. M na Ahaba. Don't mind my amateurish Igbo. My Igbo GF is teaching me small small.

Give me few more months and I'll pass for any Ndi Igbo. Eziokwu!
Mmmm
Gwa ya shi ya jishike... O kwa oyi I na-ayi ya bu nke olulu? Nihi na anyi anaghi eji nwanne anyi nwanyi egwu egwu oo.
Nsogbu adighi mgbe o bula m ga-aga Warri icho ikpu mu no nga ahu m ga-akwushi hu gi n'ahaba cool

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by backtosender: 8:40pm On Apr 02, 2017
All the igboid groups that spill over different parts in so call Niger delta knows they are part and parcel of Igbos either by language,culture,or marriages.when different clans practice those things just quoted then you are igbo is as simple as that......never let me nor anyone deceived u.... Till date igbo domain,either in office or market places money must pass through 5 igbo hands before it gets to none igbo

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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Phyll247: 7:04am On Apr 19, 2017
blues20:

Thanks for the points you raised.... concerned bodies will look into it.
Listen broda, education and research will do you more good than being ignorant. I'm sorry for using the word "ignorant". Go and read the book "THE LOWER NIGER AND ITS TRIBES BY Major ARTHUR GLYN LEONARD LATE 2ND BATT. EAST LANCASHIRE REGIMENT AUTHOR OF 'THE CAMEL, ITS USES AND MANAGEMENT/ AND HOW WE MADE RHODESIA pulished in 1906"...Rhodesia was the initial name for Nigeria. Isuama, in which the purest Ibo is said to be spoken, is to be found the heart of the Ibo nationality ; consequently it is quite reasonable to look among its people for the original fountain-head from which all the other clans have sprung. This inference too is supported not only by the purity of the language, but by this right of dispensing or rather of conferring royalty which is undoubtedly the prerogative of the Nri or N'shi people.

Once more let us return to the vicinity of the Niger, to a place called Onitsha-Mili, lying a few miles to the north-west of Asaba. Here the tradition is that this place, along with the towns of Onitsha-Olona, Onitsha-Ukwu, Onitsha-Ugbo, and Onitsha-Ukwuani, migrated or were driven out, presumably between two to three hundred years ago, from the near vicinity of Benin City, which they speak of as Ado-n-Idu.

Crossing over the river to the east bank, some four or five miles below Asaba, is another community, comprising a principal town and several outlying villages, which is merely called Onitsha, that in olden days was undoubtedly the parent stock from which those now on the western side had been derived. [b]According to its elders, fourteen generations since Ado-n-Idu was the capital of an extensive kingdom embracing many countries, but having religion, customs, and language in common, over which Oba ruled as king. At the time in question Onitsha, situated to the westward of Benin, and between it and the river, was one of these countries. [/b]It happened one day that Asije, the royal mother of this great monarch, went on to one of the farms belonging to Onitsha-Mili, for the purpose, it appears, of gathering sticks, for which she was seized and beaten by the people to whom the farms belonged. On her return to Benin she reported the matter of her ill-treatment to the king, and he at once ordered his younger brother Gbunmara, the commander-in-chief of his forces, to punish the insult which had been offered to his royal mother. Gbunmara immediately mustered a large army, and lost no time in invading the territory of Onitsha, the king of which, with all the available men whom he could collect, opposed him. After two days' severe fighting, however, the latter were defeated, and, sooner than surrender, the entire community retired to the locality on the western bank which is now occupied by the greater majority of their descendants, but a small portion made their way southward towards Abo. Chima the king, however, with his two sons Ekensu and Oreze and their households, retreated right across the river, and settled in the same spot that their successors now occupy.

But in leaving Ado-n-Idu behind them, these people then and for ever abandoned their Bini nationality and language. For even those who have remained on the western bank, and who are therefore within easy touch of Benin, are Ibo in every essential, talking pure Ibo, and not a mixed language, or even a dialect, in which Bini words are to be found. Yet the spirit of chima, their more modern founder and ancestor, is still with them, living and embodied in the same tree which he planted with his own hand.

In chapter 4 page 46 of the book in quote "A still more striking example, however, is that of Onitsha. For here we find a whole community, numbering now, at the lowest computation, 100,000 souls, Ibo in every respect, who 250 years ago at the most were Bini in language, as in everything else. What will you say about this broda? There is also a village in present northern part of Edo state called Adaobi in Afemai to be precise, they bear Igbo names and also knows about akalaka, Ekpeye and Ogba who migrated further Southeast and they went North of Edo. They bears names like Udochi, Ogbonna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afemai_people

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