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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:26pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:


I just dont dig it at all.



Dont be carried away with those stats. Ibrahim has great stats, i will curse conte if he brings him for free next season. I watched morata and he is not the one we need. Conte should not make that mistake, he will go the way of negredo and soldado in epl.
he may still go the way of Aguero. If we don't need morata, definitely we don't need lukaku. Morata is a big game player and that is one thing that lukaku lacks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:27pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:


In a local match? Hidden Hazard has 2 goals from CL open play, you dey dance to a performance in a local league
in a local league against your lord and Master.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:33pm On Apr 06, 2017
Greatihex:
in a local league against your lord and Master.

A local league is still a local league, even if you beat Galacticos 11its still a local league

Valencia beat Madrid in the local league this season doesnt change anything about Zaza being a useless player

Lookman Ademola has scored against Pep this year does that make him better than any other teenager out there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:51pm On Apr 06, 2017
Greatihex:
Hazard has scored 14 League goals in two seasons out of four seasons and is on course to beat that record this season. So, the issue of hazard and Pedro not being able to get us some goals is false.

I didnt say hazard and pedro wouldn't get us some goals, you made mention of lampard and i told you one of the reasons he got those numbers. My point is morata is not the best fit for our style especially in epl. As you rightly said he may do ok in counters, but how will he survive many big heads in the box, breathing on his neck? We cant be waiting for counter everytime before scoring. What happens when hazard , pedro are off or injured and we need morata to do a costa (bullying) for us? Is he that striker? Your guess is as good as mine.

Greatihex:
he may still go the way of Aguero. If we don't need morata, definitely we don't need lukaku. Morata is a big game player and that is one thing that lukaku lacks.

Aguero has a low central of gravity. At his peak, he can wreck havoc in a tight space. Morata is good but he doesn't fit into what we need upfront. Lukaku is tested in epl, if it's just to keep away defenders by getting them busy , so hazard and pedro will have more freedom, it's ok by me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mathys: 7:57pm On Apr 06, 2017
Greatihex:
he may still go the way of Aguero. If we don't need morata, definitely we don't need lukaku. Morata is a big game player and that is one thing that lukaku lacks.

Morata and big game sha? Bros easy abeg. Abi no be same morata or na raul u wan talk?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:57pm On Apr 06, 2017
Bville02:



Abbi naaa.. Morata or Lukaku.. Better still let's get dem both grin grin grin
No! Either one of them and Sanchez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:58pm On Apr 06, 2017
Greatihex:
Morata is the real deal for me. He Will Give Us Everything Lukaku Lacks.
I prefer morata too provided we sign Sanchez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:02pm On Apr 06, 2017
Greatihex:
We don't need 1000 goals from the striker to win any title. The number of counter attacks that Costa wastes can be of great use if someone like Morata is to play up front. At least, Pedro and Hazard can score if the counters are adequately executed.
I remember lampard being our highest goal scorer with 15 goals in a league winning season.
Tell them bro. Collective effort win you trophies in game of football. Cr7 and Messi don spoil ball finish.
Imagine, Hazard Morata Sanchez in our attack. Morata style of play will so much complement those two guys.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:03pm On Apr 06, 2017
bigkesh:


Is KDB still better than Hazard?


Pep no try at all. ..KDB isn't the kinda of guy that scores 6 league goals in a season

Pep should better get more direct

Ramdueter
Pep is the problem of man city. Nor mind ramdueter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:04pm On Apr 06, 2017
hensben:
Pep is the problem of man city. Nor mind ramdueter.

Before they got Pep they were doing so well that the owners cant wait to get rid of Pellegrini and hire Pep
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:11pm On Apr 06, 2017
mathys:


Morata and big game sha? Bros easy abeg. Abi no be same morata or na raul u wan talk?

I was surprised too. The same morata in madrid.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:13pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:


Before they got Pep they were doing so well that the owners cant wait to get rid of Pellegrini and hire Pep
After they got pep were are they now in epl table? Are they still in ucl? How is de bruyne performing? Just the way his copied philosophy affected muller. De bruyne and muller are direct players and very decisive so a very tactical coach play to their strength not the other way round.

The truth is owner of man city fell for his media hype and barca success all thanks to Messi and co.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:15pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:

No problem that is why he will continue to be a local champion as it is Sanchez, Alli and Sadio Mane have more contributions to goal than Hidden Hazard



No problem but dont even compare him to his superiors like Neymar or any other players, Let him just be the local champ like Mahrez
If only I could still my mind as Madrid come calling with a £100m bid.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:16pm On Apr 06, 2017
hensben:
After they got pep were are they now in epl table? Are they still in ucl? How is de bruyne performing? Just the way his copied philosophy affected muller. De bruyne and muller are direct players and very decisive so a very tactical coach play to their strength not the other way round.
God bless u jare
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 8:26pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:


Pep is direct as it is. there are many kinks in the City team that needs to be fixed.

1. KdB is wasted as a winger. He is too talented than to be shunted on one side of the field. He doesnt have the pace to do it, and he is better off in the middle where he can roam everywhere join the wingers to create overloads

2. Silva though is ageing, no one still has his ball sense. So Silva must play.. A player like KdB will eventually take up Silvas position as thats what he is built for. The conundrum is how to make Silva and KdB coexist

Currently to play KdB, Silva, 2 wingers and a striker means you have to make KdB sit deep just infront of the DM which puts him too far from the goal to have.

For Pep to play against a top opposition without compromising his midfield solidity, he has to drop one of Silva or KDB, Get a better winger than Sterling, Get good young full backs who hae the engine not the dross Clichy and other past it Full backs. then since he has decided to swin or sink with Stones, he need a steady head older defender beside him
I thought he was going to continue with the 3-4-3 after the first leg against us

Silva and KDB behind Aguero, that way the two of them get to play centrally in the final third without leaving spaces at the back since they have Fernandinho and Yaya to cover

That should even help with the leaky defence.. ..Stones, Otamendi and maybe Sagna, Stones and Sagna aren't bad on the ball so he gets to play from the back with little problem

Sane is the only one who won't really benefit from it because of the defensive work, but then City always control the game so he should be just fine.. ....I recall he was fantastic against us


BTW, If Pep wants a CF that engages defenders and play with teammates, Why hasn't he tried Nolito? Has he been injured?

Pep's season ended with Gundogan's
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 8:31pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:


I was surprised too. The same morata in madrid.
He is not wrong


Morata scored in all knockout stages except the final with Juventus the year they lost to Barca

I think it is even every knockout game except the Final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:36pm On Apr 06, 2017
bigkesh:

He is not wrong


Morata scored in all knockout stages except the final with Juventus the year they lost to Barca

I think it is even every knockout game except the Final


We are not buying morata of juve, we are buying morata of madrid. Epl defenders will melt him now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mathys: 8:37pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:


I was surprised too. The same morata in madrid.

Morata reminds me of the washed up version of torres in cfc shirts aka fernandud aka shapekeeper.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:40pm On Apr 06, 2017
bigkesh:
Who saw where Eden sliced Stones


Hazard turned Stones to bread and Jesus was on the pitch

I keep watching the clip. .....Nigga cast Stones like he doesn't sin
Now, this is real sh.it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:42pm On Apr 06, 2017
hensben:
After they got pep were are they now in epl table? Are they still in ucl? How is de bruyne performing? Just the way his copied philosophy affected muller. De bruyne and muller are direct players and very decisive so a very tactical coach play to their strength not the other way round.

The truth is owner of man city fell for his media hype and barca success all thanks to Messi and co.

You always talk of what is beyond your capacity

Muller in the 3yrs before Pep

2010 19 goals 16 assists = 35 G &A
2011 19 goals 19 assists - 38 G &A
2012 11 goals 20 assists = 31 G & A
2013 23 goals 17 assists 40 G & A

Pep years
2014 26 goals 15 assists = 41 G&A
2015 21 goals 19 assists = 40 G &A
2016 32 goals 12 assists = 44 G&A

Muller after Pep
2017 8goals 15 assists = 23 G&A

Last season under Pep, Muller had 20 league goals. This season without Pep, this is already first week in April Muller has 4 league goals. This time last month Muler had 1 league goal all season

How will any normal human being see these stats and say Pep affected Muller anything but positively?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:49pm On Apr 06, 2017
mathys:


Morata reminds me of the washed up version of torres in cfc shirts aka fernandud aka shapekeeper.

Thats why people need to watch matches, not just base their judgements on stats. There were madrid matches i watched i was even asking for benzema to replace him. Imagine? We need a bullish striker, ready to fight upfront independently, full stop.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:49pm On Apr 06, 2017
bigkesh:
I thought he was going to continue with the 3-4-3 after the first leg against us

Silva and KDB behind Aguero, that way the two of them get to play centrally in the final third without leaving spaces at the back since they have Fernandinho and Yaya to cover

That should even help with the leaky defence.. ..Stones, Otamendi and maybe Sagna, Stones and Sagna aren't bad on the ball so he gets to play from the back with little problem

Sane is the only one who won't really benefit from it because of the defensive work, but then City always control the game so he should be just fine.. ....I recall he was fantastic against us


BTW, If Pep wants a CF that engages defenders and play with teammates, Why hasn't he tried Nolito? Has he been injured?

Pep's season ended with Gundogan's
Pep played 343 in Barca when he had a player like Dani Alves at 25yrs who can run the entire wings. Who is in front making assist one minute, the next 5seconds he is back defending but in City is it Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy or Kolarov?

If he lines up 3-4-3 You know he will need 2 wingbacks who are decent defensively and in attack. You cant play 343 with Full backs who are all over 30. See the full backs Spurs and Chelsea use all young and dynamic Walker Rose, Moses, Alonso

For City to play 343, What are the options, Give me your full line up of City in a 343 with 2 good full backs. Pep ideal 9 is a false 9 one who will join midfield and also lead the line

Pep is one coach who likes to play as many midfielders as possible cos he believes when you dominate play, deprive your opponent of the ball, as much as possible they cant hurt you

He tried Nolito as a winger but I think he likes Sane's raw pace and trickery better

By the way I like the way you dey reason football even if we dont agree, some thought process goes into it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 8:54pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:

Epl defenders will melt him now.

Abeg name these EPL defenders that would supposedly "Melt" Him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:58pm On Apr 06, 2017
chic2pimp:
Abeg name these EPL defenders that would supposedly "Melt" Him?

The same EPL defenders who chopped 18 goals in 6 matches in the CL second round matches

Morata sodomizing EPL defenders

[img]http:///media/4-06-2017/kWXxP1.gif[/img]

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 9:07pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:


The same EPL defenders who chopped 18 goals in 6 matches in the CL second round matches

I'll be happy If He names 3-4 of these Colossi marshalling EPL defences.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:12pm On Apr 06, 2017
chic2pimp:
I'll be happy If He names 3-4 of these Colossi marshalling EPL defences.

David Luiz, Jaglieka, Phil Jones, John Stones, Mustafi, McAuley, Matip, Alderwereld, Martins Indo, Ben Mee

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:12pm On Apr 06, 2017
chic2pimp:


Abeg name these EPL defenders that would supposedly "Melt" Him?

All those van dijk, alderweireld, keane, gibson and co will handle him. If they pack the bus, i tell you he cant shrug off this guys like costa or drogba. There is a reason he scored 8 goals in 29 matches for juve.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:16pm On Apr 06, 2017
Micheal Keane has conceded 44 goals this season
Van Dijk has conceded 23 goals this season
Ben Gibson has conceded 37 goals this season

Yet these are the great EPL defenders who will stop any striker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:22pm On Apr 06, 2017
raumdeuter:
Micheal Keane has conceded 44 goals this season
Van Dijk has conceded 23 goals this season
Ben Gibson has conceded 37 goals this season

Yet these are the great EPL defenders who will stop any striker

This is the type of stvpidity you spread everywhere using stats wrongly. Can we blame david luiz for chelsea conceding yesterday ? When you watch matches you will understand how and when to use stats. Gibson must be blamed for all the goals conceded due to calamities of valdes too. You need to start reasoning like a sensible being. You are getting to 40.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:24pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:


You need to start reasoning like a sensible being. You are getting to 40.

"A fool at 40 na Fool forever"-Fela Anikulapo Kuti... Monkey Banana Circa 1975~

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:29pm On Apr 06, 2017
hensben:
Tell them bro. Collective effort win you trophies in game of football. Cr7 and Messi don spoil ball finish.
Imagine, Hazard Morata Sanchez in our attack. Morata style of play will so much complement those two guys.
for sure
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:29pm On Apr 06, 2017
airmark:


This is the type of stvpidity you spread everywhere using stats wrongly. Can we blame david luiz for chelsea conceding yesterday ? When you watch matches you will understand how and when to use stats. Gibson must be blamed for all the goals conceded due to calamities of valdes too. You need to start reasoning like a sensible being. You are getting to 40.

You are the fool here, What is the work of a defender then? Keanes team concede 40 goals, Gibsons team concede 38 goals while he is on the field yet its this same Gibson and Keane who didnt stop all the sankwa strikers in the EPL your morronic self is still talking about


We saw how Arsenal EPL defenders were chopping 10 goals in 180mins, The same Arsenal that conceded 26 goals in 30 EPL games

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