mathys:


Morata and big game sha? Bros easy abeg. Abi no be same morata or na raul u wan talk?

juve vs madrid, juve vs barca, juve vs bayern.

raumdeuter:


You are the fool here, What is the work of a defender then? Keanes team concede 40 goals, Gibsons team concede 38 goals while he is on the field yet its this same Gibson and Keane who didnt stop all the sankwa strikers in the EPL your morronic self is still talking about

Will you stop disgracing yourself? So a penalty caused by non-cbs like fernandinho's yesterday should be blamed on the innocent cbs? Are free kicks and shots scored from outside of the box faults of cbs? Keepers' howlers are defenders faults? If barcelona management was made up of f00ls like you, they wouldn't have bought umtiti because he conceded 43 goals in lyon. Apari Ramuzaki of life

airmark:


I didnt say hazard and pedro wouldn't get us some goals, you made mention of lampard and i told you one of the reasons he got those numbers. My point is morata is not the best fit for our style especially in epl. As you rightly said he may do ok in counters, but how will he survive many big heads in the box, breathing on his neck? We cant be waiting for counter everytime before scoring. What happens when hazard , pedro are off or injured and we need morata to do a costa (bullying) for us? Is he that striker? Your guess is as good as mine.



Aguero has a low central of gravity. At his peak, he can wreck havoc in a tight space. Morata is good but he doesn't fit into what we need upfront. Lukaku is tested in epl, if it's just to keep away defenders by getting them busy , so hazard and pedro will have more freedom, it's ok by me.

the interplay with Hazard and Pedro can unlock any defense. Morata can take on two or more defenders and shoot. He can create chances for his teammates to score.

raumdeuter:

No problem that is why he will continue to be a local champion as it is Sanchez, Alli and Sadio Mane have more contributions to goal than Hidden Hazard



No problem but dont even compare him to his superiors like Neymar or any other players, Let him just be the local champ like Mahrez

Has it made them candidates to win player of the season?

airmark:
Will you stop disgracing yourself? So a penalty caused by non-cbs like fernandinho's yesterday should be blamed on the innocent cbs? Are free kicks and shots scored from outside of the box faults of cbs? Keepers' howlers are defenders faults? If barcelona management was made up of f00ls like you, they wouldn't have bought umtiti because he conceded 43 goals in lyon. Apari Ramuzaki of life

You are a big fool. If a team is conceeding many goals they shop for a defender, If a team isnt scoring enough they shop for an attacker. Thats how football works, defenders are supposed to stop goals and its only a foool like you will clutch onto outliers like a conceded penalties or whatever.

You have no ntelligence thats why more sensible people here dont regard you at all except as the thread idiiiot

airmark:


All those van dijk, alderweireld, keane, gibson and co will handle him. If they pack the bus, i tell you he cant shrug off this guys like costa or drogba. There is a reason he scored 8 goals in 29 matches for juve.

I'll give you Toby. I rate Him highly. Van Dijk is no different from the defenders Morata would have faced when playing against Mid table La liga teams. Keane and Gibson bawo? The same Gibson that is yet to be called up by the three lions?

Morata might or might not be a good fit for Chelsea however His success at Chelsea would have little to do with the supposed "Quality Defenders" He'll come up against in the EPL.

raumdeuter:

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You are a big fool. If a team is conceeding many goals they shop for a defender, If a team isnt scoring enough they shop for an attacker. Thats how football works, defenders are supposed to stop goals and its only a foool like you will clutch onto outliers like a conceded penalties or whatever.

You have no ntelligence thats why more sensible people here dont regard you at all except as the thread idiiiot[/s]

Was umtiti a bad defender at Lyon by conceding 43 goals ? Based on your logic , barca bought a useless defender. Answer me now , before I spank your head .

Greatihex:
juve vs madrid, juve vs barca, juve vs bayern.

How can three matches in a single season translate into turning up in big games or matches? Just 3games kpere...... in how many years of playing soccer again? Even ramirez is a big game changer or scorer or whatever you choose to call it next

raumdeuter:


David Luiz, Jaglieka, Phil Jones, John Stones, Mustafi, McAuley, Matip, Alderwereld, Martins Indo, Ben Mee

Real Quality these lot. They'll have top strikers quaking in their boots

chic2pimp:


I'll give you Toby. I rate Him highly. Van Dijk is no different from the defenders Morata would have faced when playing against Mid table La liga teams. Keane and Gibson bawo? The same Gibson that is yet to be called up by the three lions?

Morata might or might not be a good fit for Chelsea however His success at Chelsea would have little to do with the supposed "Quality Defenders" He'll come up against in the EPL.

Why will he not be a good fit for chelsea? Thats the question. He wont be able to face the rigour. Soldado, negredo found it difficult when they came those years. Check those topping epl scorers chart, you will see some characteristics which morata lacks. He is a good striker no doubt, but we cant just buy him just because of assisting others. His scoring ability is not impressive.

Greatihex:
the interplay with Hazard and Pedro can unlock any defense. Morata can take on two or more defenders and shoot. He can create chances for his teammates to score.

We shouldnt buy him just because of hazard and pedro. We need him to be scoring 20+ too. If we want that we kuku go for auba. We need an aggressive striker. What happens if hazard or pedro get injured or off-form? We will rely on an 8 goal-a-season striker.

airmark:


Thats why people need to watch matches, not just base their judgements on stats. There were madrid matches i watched i was even asking for benzema to replace him. Imagine? We need a bullish striker, ready to fight upfront independently, full stop.

the same benzema has played more matches than morata this season, yet the ninja has outscored him..

airmark:


Was umtiti a bad defender at Lyon by conceding 43 goals ? Based on your logic , barca bought a useless defender. Answer me now , before I spank your head .

If I show you that Lyon did not concede 43 goals with Umtiti on the field will you pay $1,000? And I will give chelseafan1 half of it. Deal?

raumdeuter:


You always talk of what is beyond your capacity

Muller in the 3yrs before Pep

2010 19 goals 16 assists = 35 G &A
2011 19 goals 19 assists - 38 G &A
2012 11 goals 20 assists = 31 G & A
2013 23 goals 17 assists 40 G & A

Pep years
2014 26 goals 15 assists = 41 G&A
2015 21 goals 19 assists = 40 G &A
2016 32 goals 12 assists = 44 G&A

Muller after Pep
2017 8goals 15 assists = 23 G&A

Last season under Pep, Muller had 20 league goals. This season without Pep, this is already first week in April Muller has 4 league goals. This time last month Muler had 1 league goal all season

How will any normal human being see these stats and say Pep affected Muller anything but positively?

You're quick to bring out stat. You don't understand game of footballl. Smh

Morata is actually a scam! Look at his numbers? A guy who left juventus for a big fee and went back to madrid to chop bench? I think he just has a good agent!

airmark:


Thats why people need to watch matches, not just base their judgements on stats. There were madrid matches i watched i was even asking for benzema to replace him. Imagine? We need a bullish striker, ready to fight upfront independently, full stop.

this same morata led the line for Spain at the euros. Did you watch last season match between juve and bayern in the second leg of the ucl? His poor performance in Madrid can be attributed to lack of enough playing time and no confidence in him from the manager.

hensben:
You're quick to bring out stat. You don't understand game of footballl. Smh

You that know football explain how Muller with over 40 goals and assists per season was affected by Pep.

lordfalcao:
the same benzema has played more matches than morata this season, yet the ninja has outscored him..

You didnt follow the convo. I said in some matches i wanted even benz to replace him, to tell you how poor he was. It means as bad as benz is, i wanted him to replace him.

mathys:


How can three matches in a single season translate into turning up in big games or matches? Just 3games kpere...... in how many years of playing soccer again? Even ramirez is a big game changer or scorer or whatever you choose to call it next

the same cannot be said of lukaku. He didn't need to score to prove that he played well. He was the main treat going forward for juve.

airmark:


Why will he not be a good fit for chelsea? Thats the question. He wont be able to face the rigour. Soldado, negredo found it difficult when they came those years. Check those topping epl scorers chart, you will see some characteristics which morata lacks. He is a good striker no doubt, but we cant just buy him just because of assisting others. His scoring ability is not impressive.



We shouldnt buy him just because of hazard and pedro. We need him to be scoring 20+ too. If we want that we kuku go for auba. We need an aggressive striker. What happens if hazard or pedro get injured or off-form? We will rely on an 8 goal-a-season striker.

is it lukaku that will play without hazard and Pedro feeding him? Lukaku will even be bringing to nothing their efforts.
I even remember Hazard being frustrated by lukaku against Hungary at the euros.

www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10826935/conte-better-than-pep Following Chelsea's 2-1 win over Manchester City at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday night, Adam Bate picks out three reasons why Antonio Conte has had the edge over Pep Guardiola this season. There was much excitement in the summer at the prospect of two of Europe's greatest coaches coming to work in England for the first time. Pep Guardiola had won a trio of titles in both Spain and Germany, while Antonio Conte had lifted the trophy in Italy three times. Hazard double beats City Eden Hazard's two goals helped Chelsea get the better of Man City at Stamford Bridge. But it was the Manchester City man who was expected to hit the ground running. He was 9/4 with Sky Bet to take City to the title, while Chelsea were 5/1 outsiders - a reflection of the fact that the Blues had only finished 10th the previous season. But it is Conte who has delivered. "He's an excellent manager," said Guardiola on the eve of their clash on Wednesday night. "I learn a lot when I see his teams - Juventus, Italy and now. I like to do that because you see what they want to do. Their teams control a lot of aspects. Maybe he's the best." Highlights of Chelsea's 2-1 Premier League win over Manchester City He's certainly had the better of it in the Premier League this season with Conte becoming the first manager to do the double over Guardiola in a league season. His Chelsea side seem set to win the Premier League title too as they are still seven points clear at the top. So what's been the key to Conte outperforming Guardiola in the Premier League so far? Well, it's been a combination of good decisions and bad luck. Here are three of the key factors that have led to their contrasting fortunes in their first season in English football… Big players and big moments Eden Hazard has scored more impressive goals than the two he managed against City at the Bridge, netting thanks to a deflected shot and a rebound from a missed penalty. But the Belgian was impressive again and has proven decisive in key moments for Conte this season. Hazard's previous goal at Stamford Bridge had been against Arsenal and his previous two-goal haul came against Everton. Having also scored at City and against Manchester United, the majority of his 13 Premier League goals this season have been against the top seven. Man Utd vs Chelsea April 16, 2017, 3:30pm Live on Get Sky Sports Get a Sky Sports pass It's an unusual statistic and Guardiola will no doubt feel that his own star names have not replicated that with big moments going against his side. Not only have City surrendered leads to Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal this season but they have also wasted chances to extend their advantages. From Kevin De Bruyne's amazing miss against Chelsea at the Etihad to Sergio's Aguero headed chance to double City's lead over Arsenal last week, Guardiola's men have wasted a series of clear opportunities - much to the exasperation of their manager. It's been a particular problem in those big games. In fact, according to Opta, City have scored only nine of their 26 clear chances (35 per cent) against fellow top-seven teams compared to 30 out of 51 (59 per cent) against the rest. That has been a huge issue for Guardiola. Conte has got the big calls right this season, while Guardiola has not Key changes that have paid off If the City boss can claim to have been unfortunate in that respect, some of the team's issues can be firmly laid at his door. Most notably, the sort of goalkeeper error by Willy Caballero that saw him allow Hazard's shot to squirm beyond him for the opening goal on Wednesday. Few felt the 35-year-old Argentine and long- time back-up goalkeeper was up to the challenge of being a starter in a title-winning team and his mere presence in the City goal is a reflection on Claudio Bravo's shockingly bad start to life in England. The Chilean became the second most expensive goalkeeper in Premier League history when Guardiola decided to replace Joe Hart, but Bravo has since lost his place as a result of having the worst save percentage of any keeper to make 10 or more appearances this season. Conte was pleased with his side's defensive display as they beat Manchester City Ironically, Thibaut Courtois made an error of his own at the other end against City. And yet, it is clear that Conte not only possesses the superior goalkeeper but that - in contrast to his City counterpart - he has succeeded in getting the biggest decisions right for Chelsea this season. The signing of David Luiz was seen as a gamble, as was the switch to 3-4-3, but both moves have proven spectacularly successful. N'Golo Kante has been an excellent signing too, while various issues regarding Diego Costa, Cesc Fabregas and John Terry have been expertly handled. Settled system and simple instructions Conte says his man-management would be better still if he had a greater grasp of English. "In Italy, for me, honestly, it was easier to find the right words to motivate my players," he admitted after the City game. "I'm not at a great level to give motivational talks. But I try." He has succeeded by keeping it simple and keeping the changes to a minimum. Chelsea have played their 3-4-3 on 22 occasions so far this season. In contrast, according to Opta, City have used seven different formations - using no one system more than a dozen times thus far. Get Sky Sports for £18 Upgrade to Sky Sports now and get 12 months for just £18 per month! It's the same with the personnel. Chelsea won six games in a row with the same side earlier this season. Guardiola is yet to name an unchanged line-up. Whether that's a cause of Chelsea's success or an effect of it, Conte's philosophy would appear easier to grasp. Guardiola, meanwhile, remains confident that City will get to the level he wants them eventually but acknowledges it will take time. "Next season will be better," he said as long ago as December. "Two years will be better. Give me time." He is certain to get more of that. But for the reasons outlined above, Conte did not need that time to bring trophies back to Stamford Bridge. Clearly, it's the Chelsea boss who has had the edge on his fellow super-coach so far.

Greatihex:
this same morata led the line for Spain at the euros. Did you watch last season match between juve and bayern in the second leg of the ucl? His poor performance in Madrid can be attributed to lack of enough playing time and no confidence in him from the manager.

He led spain to where? Earlier this season he started first 3 games and his performances didn't impress zizou. There must be a reason he was preferred to come in as sub subsequently.

airmark:


He led spain to where? Earlier this season he started first 3 games and his performances didn't impress zizou. There must be a reason he was preferred to come in as sub subsequently.

my brother, we are talking about Madrid here o not Everton or westbrom.

Greatihex:
my brother, we are talking about Madrid here o not Everton or westbrom.

Did everton play real sociedad in laliga?

bigkesh:

He is not wrong


Morata scored in all knockout stages except the final with Juventus the year they lost to Barca

I think it is even every knockout game except the Final

He scored in the Final

Greatihex:
this same morata led the line for Spain at the euros. Did you watch last season match between juve and bayern in the second leg of the ucl? His poor performance in Madrid can be attributed to lack of enough playing time and no confidence in him from the manager.

Same way we can create excuses for batshuayi..... I am sure you also saw what batshuayi did in the last world cup or so..?

Sanchez or/and lukaku will do just fine. Morata can stay with madrid please.

airmark:


Why will he not be a good fit for chelsea? Thats the question. He wont be able to face the rigour. Soldado, negredo found it difficult when they came those years. Check those topping epl scorers chart, you will see some characteristics which morata lacks. He is a good striker no doubt, but we cant just buy him just because of assisting others. His scoring ability is not impressive.



We shouldnt buy him just because of hazard and pedro. We need him to be scoring 20+ too. If we want that we kuku go for auba. We need an aggressive striker. What happens if hazard or pedro get injured or off-form? We will rely on an 8 goal-a-season striker.

You are always quick to mention strikers from Spain who flopped in England.

Was Torres not from Spain? Aguero? Costa?

Why are you so confident that Morata will be a Negredo or Soldado and not a Torres or Aguero?

Funlordmaniac:


Morata is actually a scam! Look at his numbers? A guy who left juventus for a big fee and went back to madrid to chop bench? I think he just has a good agent!

I don't get that bolded.

How much was the transfer fee from Juve to Madrid abi na Madrid to Juve?

mathys:


How can three matches in a single season translate into turning up in big games or matches? Just 3games kpere...... in how many years of playing soccer again? Even ramirez is a big game changer or scorer or whatever you choose to call it next

In average, how many BIG GAMES does a club like Juventus other Madrid play in a season?

timbros:


You are always quick to mention strikers from Spain who flopped in England.

Was Torres not from Spain? Aguero? Costa?

Why are you so confident that Morata will be a Negredo or Soldado and not a Torres or Aguero?

How many times have you watched morata's match in madrid ? I guess i have watched his games more than you did and i can tell you he will struggle with us. Costa and aguero's styles are different from morata, soldado and negredo. I dont need to tell you we need a more aggressive striker than morata. Anytime madrid is playing a tough match with morata, i will give a mention. Youtube videos cant deceive me. Against sevilla i was like was this dude playing rubbish on a purpose?. I will prefer gameiro to him. He is a no for me.

airmark:


How many times have you watched morata's match in madrid ? I guess i have watched his games more than you did and i can tell you he will struggle with us. Costa and aguero's styles are different from morata, soldado and negredo. I dont need to tell you we need a more aggressive striker than morata. Anytime madrid is playing a tough match with morata, i will give a mention. Youtube videos cant deceive me. Against sevilla i was like was this dude playing rubbish on a purpose?. I will prefer gameiro to him. He is a no for me.

And Soldado and Negredo has his style of play?

Moses is back to training..

timbros:


And Soldado and Negredo has his style of play?

Guy, let's forget this. Anyone using morata's exploits for juve in ucl to judge him now, is in error. Zidane knows why he is benching him. I just dont want to bombard this place with gifs of his school boy's errors for madrid. There is a reason someone called him another finished torres. You guys need to watch matches of these players before concluding.

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