DoctorAlien:


Does Jn. 20:1 say that Sunday is sacred? Follow that link and read the article, because I'm sure you didn't read it.

Below is your opening Post, where the link dey?

DoctorAlien:
The most honest way I know to approach this subject is to take a look at absolutely everything that the Bible says about the first day of the week. There are only eight texts in the New Testament that refer to Sunday, and by carefully studying these verses we can be certain that all the evidence for consideration is before us. If there is any biblical authority for keeping the first day of the week, it will have to be found in one of these verses.

Syncan:

Below is your opening Post, where the link dey?

Check the fourth post on the first page of the thread.

MZLady39:



The Catholic sabbath is Saturday not Sunday

This statement is incorrect sir. The Catholic church itself would be offended that you stated that.

I am a Catholic myself. Saturday is the Catholic Sabbath but the obligatory day of worship is Sunday because it is the Lord's Day.

DoctorAlien:


Check the fourth post on the first page of the thread.

Now I have read it. The apostles preached on Saturday because that was the status quo, when they were to see the majority of the people in the place of worship or free of work. However, for the community of believers which was growing steadily, they gather together to break bread as Christ has commanded "On the first day of the week" Acts20:7

The sabbath day continue to remain for Judaizers, but the Lord made a new day for his people, in line with scriptures.

Papist:

I am a Catholic myself. Saturday is the Catholic Sabbath but the obligatory day of worship is Sunday because it is the Lord's Day.

I am a Catholic, and I endorse this post too.

Syncan:


Now I have read it. The apostles preached on Saturday because that was the status quo, when they were to see the majority of the people in the place of worship or free of work. However, for the community of believers which was growing steadily, they gather together to break bread as Christ has commanded "On the first day of the week" Acts20:7

The sabbath day continue to remain for Judaizers, but the Lord made a new day for his people, in line with scriptures.

Oga, you never read that link. If you did, you wouldn't have posted this lie, because that gathering took place on a Saturday evening. You only quote verses out of context to support your lies. Acts 2:46 tells us that they broke bread DAILY, not on Sunday. Stop believing the lies that the catholic church tells you.

Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.”

Syncan, what do you have to say?

DoctorAlien:
Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.”

Syncan, what do you have to say?

First, this is what the Cardinal said "Is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from any unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify." James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of our Fathers(1917 edition)pg.72-73 (16th edition)pg.111 (88th edition) pg. 89.

Here the cardinal was basically trying to make a point about Christianity as different from Judaism, with a show of the Power giving to the Church by Christ, hence the Church truncated God's command on Circumcision and never sanctioned it for all, It remained binding thus because whatever the church consider bound here is considered bound in heaven Matt.18:18 . Christians obey God's directive to rest, but now on the Lord's day, for Christians are not bound by specific days of the old law. "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Colossians 2:16-17,

So you quoted the cardinal out of contest to infer what you like.

Horus:

Yes we all know your mind is trash

okay

Syncan, but you agree with Cardinal Gibbons that no single line from Genesis to Revelations authorizes the sanctification of Sunday, but that instead the Bible encourages us to keep the Sabbath?

DoctorAlien:
Syncan, but you agree with Cardinal Gibbons that no single line from Genesis to Revelations authorizes the sanctification of Sunday?

If you seek a precise authorization of Sunday as a day of worship, you may as well seek for the precise authorization to the apostles to change the circumcision law. There are Implied verses and actions of christ which as time goes on, the Church free from Judaism, decided to keep just as they removed the law on circumcision.

onyenze123:
"The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity" - Einstein

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DoctorAlien ifenes MZLady39 NoWorries7 Horus zionmade onyenze123 analice107

I well know that Sir. Eistein resounded what the Bible has already said, and its in motion right being ushered in by the Roman Catholic Church.

What you just posted here is called the One World Religion. And, the Beast will be in the heard of that religion and the Pope as his prophet.

Pray you live to witness it, it shall be an interesting time.

analice107:

I well know that Sir. Eistein resounded what the Bible has already said, and its in motion right being ushered in by the Roman Catholic Church.

What you just posted here is called the One World Religion. And, the Beast will be in the heard of that religion and the Pope as his prophet.

Pray you live to witness it, it shall be an interesting time.

analice107, do you observe the Sabbath (Saturday) day too? Just asking.

Syncan:


If you seek a precise authorization of Sunday as a day of worship, you may as well seek for the precise authorization to the apostles to change the circumcision law. There are Implied verses and actions of christ which as time goes on, the Church free from Judaism, decided to keep just as they removed the law on circumcision.

Cardinal Gibbons said that the Scriptures enforce a religious observance of Saturday. Do you agree with him?

DoctorAlien:


Cardinal Gibbons said that the Scriptures enforce a religious observance of Saturday. Do you agree with him?

Yes. The old testament, just in the same way as in the circumcision enforced it.

Syncan:


Yes. The old testament, just in the same way as in the circumcision enforced it.

Cardinal Gibbons did not say that only the OT enforces the observance of Saturday. He said "the Scriptures" which include the NT. Do you agree with him?

DoctorAlien:


Cardinal Gibbons did not say that only the OT enforces the observance of Saturday. He said "the Scriptures" which include the NT. Do you agree with him?

Stop playing around, he never mentioned New testament. Old testament alone is scripture. true or false?

Syncan:


Yes. The old law, just in the same way as in the circumcision enforced it.

Continue editing, you hear?

Cardinal Gibbons said that "THE SCRIPTURES" enforce the observance of Saturday.

Do you agree that the catholic church is going against the Scriptures?

DoctorAlien:


Continue editing, you hear?

Cardinal Gibbons said that "THE SCRIPTURES" enforce the observance of Saturday.

Do you agree that the catholic church is going against the Scriptures?

Did the Apostles go against Scriptures?

Syncan:


Stop playing around, he never mentioned New testament. Old testament alone is scripture. true or false?

Who's playing around? Peter called Paul's writings Scripture(2 Pet. 3:16). Moreover Gibbons says that from Genesis to Revelation not a single line authorizes the sanctification of Sunday.

What are you saying?

DoctorAlien:


Who's playing around? Peter called Paul's writings Scripture(2 Pet. 3:16). Moreover Gibbons says that from Genesis to Revelation not a single line authorizes the sanctification of Sunday.

What are you saying?

You have neither shown me where he said new testament enforced Saturday worship, nor have you denied that Old testament alone can be called Scriptures.

Syncan:

Did the Apostles go against Scriptures?

Did the apostles keep Sunday in place of Saturday?

Syncan:


You have neither shown me where he said new testament enforced Saturday worship, nor have you denied that Old testament alone can be called Scriptures.

Oga Peter calls Paul's writings Scriptures. 2 Pet. 3:15-16

DoctorAlien:


Did the apostles keep Sunday in place of Saturday?

There is no indication that the apostles continued in the keeping of the Sabbath. They were very conscious of separating their religion from Judaizers. The Epistle to the Galatians was focused upon refuting Judaizing, since many Gentile Christians had fallen prey to the heresy. In Galatians 4:10 Paul rebukes them by saying, “You observe days and months and seasons and years.”

DoctorAlien:


Oga Peter calls Paul's writings Scriptures. 2 Pet. 3:15-16

So? when the bereans searched scriptures in Acts 17:11, was Paul's writing a part of it?

DoctorAlien:


Did the apostles keep Sunday in place of Saturday?

Did they apostles keep the law of circumcision?

Syncan:



There is no indication that the apostles continued in the keeping of the Sabbath. They were very conscious of separating their religion from Judaizers. The Epistle to the Galatians was focused upon refuting Judaizing, since many Gentile Christians had fallen prey to the heresy. In Galatians 4:10 Paul rebukes them by saying, “You observe days and months and seasons and years.”

Paul says that the doers of the law shall be justified. Rom. 2:13. How can you say that Paul and the apostles did not keep the Sabbath?

“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [Saturday Sabbath to Sunday] was her act... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things” (H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons).

“Sunday is our mark of authority… the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1, 1923).

Syncan, what do you have to say?

In the Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, we read: Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea, (AD 336) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday….
Q. Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.
Q. By what authority did the
Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon her!
—Rev. Peter Geiermann,
C.SS.R., (1946), p. 50.

Syncan, what do you have to say?

James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore (1877-1921), in a signed letter.

"Is Saturday the seventh day according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments? I answer yes. Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the seventh day -Saturday - for Sunday, the first day? I answer yes . Did Christ change the day'? I answer no!

"Faithfully yours, J. Card. Gibbons"


Syncan, what do you have to say?

Syncan:

analice107, do you observe the Sabbath (Saturday) day too? Just asking.

No, i go to church on sunday. will be in Church tomorrow, why?

DoctorAlien:


Paul says that the doers of the law shall be justified. Rom. 2:13. How can you say that Paul and the apostles did not keep the Sabbath?

And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

You still haven't shown me that the apostles continued with observation of the Sabbath day law. Nor have you shown me the authority they have to change the circumcision law.