BascoVanVeli:


I don't see the crime in asking how many goals someone has scored but i'm just one guy we can move on.

komekn:


It's light hearted sarcasm Chuba has done ok infact exceptional in youth football, but has not been able to make the transition to senior football.

Played 77 competitive league games in three divisions for different clubs on loan from Arsenal and scored 7. He is a striker that is not exceptional.

komekn:


It's light hearted sarcasm Chuba has done ok infact exceptional in youth football, but has not been able to make the transition to senior football.

Played 77 competitive league games in three divisions for different clubs on loan from Arsenal and scored 7. He is a striker that is not exceptional.

forgiveness:
That's my boyyyyyyy...


Ex-Flying Eagles Skipper Named In Team Of The Week In The Netherlands

Published: April 18, 2017

Ex-Flying Eagles Skipper Named In Team Of The Week In The Netherlands

Abdul Ajagun has been named in the Eredivisie Team of the Week for his performance against Ryan Sanusi's Sparta Rotterdam this past weekend.

The ex-Flying Eagles captain put in an impressive display and scored two goals for Roda JC in their 3-1 win over the opponents.

Foxsports awarded Ajagun thirteen points and a spot in midfield alongside Mahi (FC Groningen), Davy Propper (PSV Eindhoven) and Django Warmerdam (PEC Zwolle).

The attacking midfielder managed to complete the game against Sparta despite sustaining an injury after scoring his first goal.

The 24-year-old is spending the whole of this season on loan at Roda JC before returning to his parent club Panathinaikos.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

Photo Credit : rodajc.nl

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22759

BascoVanVeli:


I don't get it, is it because he plays foe arsenal? Why don't u stand up for Taiwo Awoniyi like this, is it because he was a Manu boy? Nobody has looked his way yet every week people talk about how badly he has dropped.

maidaboi:
you even know him more than us and this post make me know more about him but why ask about his goals when the article was about him and the team gaining promotion

BascoVanVeli:


I don't get it, is it because he plays foe arsenal? Why don't u stand up for Taiwo Awoniyi like this, is it because he was a Manu boy? Nobody has looked his way yet every week people talk about how badly he has dropped.

komekn:


It's essentially because it was being hailed as a break through that Chuba has switched to play for the SE.

Very compelling photo of him Aina and Amaju. Pictures tell stories too.

Playing for Arsenal doesn't mean you are exceptional unless you break into first team. Arsenal is not Chelsea.

Meanwhile I digress watched FA youth Cup Final yesterday first leg. Manchester city vs Chelsea. Seen one Nigerian midfielder uwakwe looked amongst the other Nigerian origin promising players on both sides

tbaba1234:


Awoniyi has deteriorated badly or just remained static. New players come on the scene all the time, if a player does not show something, he will be replaced or forgotten

BascoVanVeli:


I think the young man is on a good path. Right now he is learning what it takes to be a professional, granted his team sucks but that's also good for him because he can mature away from the spot light. He might not have scored goals but what he has done is win shirts and u can't start for a team without proving to the coach ur worth in training.

tbaba1234:


The coach started him for a while and then dropped him to the bench due to his lack of goals. His return to the first team is good but he is not delivering.

This is his second season on loan. He did not deliver on his first either. His team got relegated.

The german 2nd division and the dutch league are decent levels for him to show results. He should not be poorer than these kinds of leagues if he wants to make liverpool's team eventually.

I think, part of his problem is psychological. He needs a run of goals.

The clock is ticking..

tbaba1234:


The coach started him for a while and then dropped him to the bench due to his lack of goals. His return to the first team is good but he is not delivering.

This is his second season on loan. He did not deliver on his first either. His team got relegated.

The german 2nd division and the dutch league are decent levels for him to show results. He should not be poorer than these kinds of leagues if he wants to make liverpool's team eventually.

I think, part of his problem is psychological. He needs a run of goals.

The clock is ticking..

komekn:


Agreed time waits for no one in football. You can be celebrated today ridiculed tomorrow, I you do not perform.

Meanwhile when will Aluko be invited it's getting to the point of embarrassment. Or is there something we do not know.

komekn:


There is personal under achievement.

And there is the club not achieving anything.


Considering the two approaches I can safely say that Mikel is probably the highest achieving Nigerian player from a club perspective. However, the incredible talent of Mikel was diminished playing as a DM and his personal talent never reached the heights it should have. In this regard I could day he underachieved.

Now we celebrate JJay incredible personal talent. However, from a club perspective what did he achieve . Can I say respectfully, not a lot considering his undoubted mercurial incomparable talent. Particularly, if we put him side by side with his peers, like ZZ Zidane, Beckham, Leonardo, Del Piero, Baggio, Rivaldo, Vieira, etc. I believe he was better than some of these players but look at what they achieved in comparison and JJay falls short.

Now back to Obagoal, who is still continously relevant one thing I will say is that. He Martins seemed to follow the money not the career. In that regard he hasn’t achieved the highest accolades he might have. But then look at teams he has played for and what they have won it has not been a total underachievement. If it was money he was looking for then he has achieved more.

I still think he is relevant, tell me one young striker that has got anywhere near to his level. If we consider what he was doing at thier age comparatively.

I would invite him to the SE if Defoe can be invited to England why not Obagoal.

forgiveness:


What counts?

Define your standard of 'underachievement' before we begin debate.

Icon4s:


I think the issue with Awoniyi is that too much was expected of him.

I recall some here even opined he was better than Isaac Success. Some even said he deserved a place in the Liverpool 'A' Squad.

I don't agree he has deteriorated as you put it. I would say his development has not been as fast as expected by many.

I was one of those few that stood the ground that he was not even ready for that U23 Challenge.

He is just 19. He should have even been part of this years WYC if we had qualified.

The boy is still learning the ropes. Whether he will come out as a top striker for Nigeria or not even getting a call up at all, time will tell.

komekn:


Bros the way football is going if you have not showed promise at 19 there is a problem.

I watched Aluko's Fulham give Villa a football lesson and to add insult to Injury, Ryan thier 16 year old left back scored, that's 5 goals in 23 games exceptional for a left back, who is still only 16.

Tammy is 19 and he is making a claim for much bigger things, 25 goals in the championship is not a joke. the two Dembele's making waves in Europe are under 20, Mbappe is 18. But I'm being harsh he is not on thier level. However, Awoniyi came with great expectations that he has so far failed to live up too.

joseph1013:


There are late starters in football. Not everyone who shines as a teenager makes it. Freddy Adu, Cherno Samba, Dominic Adiyiah, Nii Lamptey, etc show us things do not always go according to path. That's why I often hesitate to say that so and so player will be the highest goal scorer in Super Eagles or this person will become Nigeria's captain. Life happens. I can wager that some of those you listed WILL flatter to deceive at the end of the day.

And there are those who shone in their late twenties. Marco Materazzi, Ole Gunnar Solsjaer, Rickie Lambert, Ian Wright and even Luca Toni are good examples to show that there are indeed late bloomers.

I am afraid for Awoniyi, but your assumptions of him based on your examples are pedestal.

Joebie:
And to other news. All the just concluded matches in the NPFL ended up with wins for the home teams.

tbaba1234:


Spot on, I feel a big part of the problem is psychological.. He needs to get a run of goals to build confidence.

joseph1013:


There are late starters in football. Not everyone who shines as a teenager makes it. Freddy Adu, Cherno Samba, Dominic Adiyiah, Nii Lamptey, etc show us things do not always go according to path. That's why I often hesitate to say that so and so player will be the highest goal scorer in Super Eagles or this person will become Nigeria's captain. Life happens. I can wager that some of those you listed WILL flatter to deceive at the end of the day.

And there are those who shone in their late twenties. Marco Materazzi, Ole Gunnar Solsjaer, Rickie Lambert, Ian Wright and even Luca Toni are good examples to show that there are indeed late bloomers.

I am afraid for Awoniyi, but your assumptions of him based on your examples are pedestrian.

Icon4s:


Psychological?

I feel it has to do more with his abilities.

I have never seen him as a Grade 'A' teenage striker.

Tamunotonye22:
The next big thing if only Nigeria calls

tbaba1234:


I think, it is both..

I do not think he is grade A but i thought he was decent enough to thrive at the level he is currently playing

TheGoodJoe:


Martins had the potential of becoming one of the best in the game but he did not come close to that.