MtuMsuper:

nice username,very appropriate.

Obi1kenobi:
While I entered this thread to puncture the delusional bubbles of many of our African brothers here, I won't be sucked into bragging about Nigeria. I'm not gonna lie, this is one of the most effed up countries on the planet (so are most African nations). If I had to return to this planet and had a choice of nationality, this shiithole would hardly rank among my top 100 destinations. This kleptocracy is hopeless.

I also don't quite grasp those who brag about how "big" we are. If anything, our size is bloated and unwieldy and the colonial amalgamation is a colossal mistake we're still paying for today. What makes up today's Nigeria would be far more manageable broken up as anything between 2 and 6 different federating units. Half of Scottish people don't give a shiiit about being part of the mighty UK. They would love their small nation to cater for itself and forge alliances as it wishes. Catalans and Basque people don't care about bragging as proud members of a great Spain.

If you were a citizen of Switzerland or Sweden or Norway or Finland or Luxembourg, with proud cultures and the best standards of living in Europe, you'd hardly be jealous of a backward Russia just because they're far "bigger" than all those countries combined. Even tiny Monaco with a population of 37,000 never cared to merge with France.

I don't really care if Nigeria's economy is bigger than anyone's. I care more about the living standards of our citizens. Gabon has a far, far, far better economy than Nigeria and it's a small nation. I would be more proud to be Gabonese than Nigerian.

Jayceon:
and the question continues...
How can a country with the highest GDP have 90% of it's citizens living below wild animals?

Obi1kenobi:


The 90% you dug out from your arse, abi?

uzzyfire:
wat are u saying . u sound like a fool. no offense tho

TayserMahiri:


I would want to know what Kenyans would be doing in Naija though

forgiveness:


What do you mean by 'Kenya cities have better infrastructures..'?

Jayceon:
yep I did dig it outta my arse...http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/poverty-112m-nigerians-live-poverty-line/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjYycvmt7PTAhVMZFAKHSekBRIQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNGunEYCaClBujjQ407Kut-SLToFbw now you can kiss it

GERALD710:

Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s .Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water

TayserMahiri:


Being Nigerian of course means you won't notice chaos perhaps because you are used. Only a blind person won't notice the prevailing chaos in the second. Very big difference

ZarZar:


This is not even worth a response. Consider this post a donation from a good South African AKA Moi.

uzzyfire:
wetin u dey find for naija . oya pack ur load dey go gabon na . na people like u dey drown for Mediterranean sea

ThunderingHooves:
i think like mtumsuper said, let us hear from the kenyans living/working/studying/doing business etc in Nigeria come out and give us a balanced picture. Surely there must be some kenyans living there. Come out ,come out, wherever you are.

I have missed alot, and i now see this is a free for all brawl with Ghanaians and South Africans entering the mess. Very sad about the insults, its not good, lets be focused people.

GERALD710:

Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s .Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water

GERALD710:

Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s .Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water

Jayceon:
yep I did dig it outta my arse...http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/poverty-112m-nigerians-live-poverty-line/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjYycvmt7PTAhVMZFAKHSekBRIQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNGunEYCaClBujjQ407Kut-SLToFbw now you can kiss it

uzzyfire:
wetin u dey find for naija . oya pack ur load dey go gabon na . na people like u dey drown for Mediterranean sea

TayserMahiri:


Wow, thats some badda$$ African technology. Will try to get pictures of Sanya but if you can, please share

68816419:


“The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of enabling man to find reasons for continuing to believe whatever it is that he wants to believe.” Please keep deceiving yourself time will tell, nigga i have gone round kenya in and out.i keep saying this, the only Good parts in Nairobi were every things "seems" to be "OK" is Nairobi CBD and "FEW" adjoining areas, the rest are nothing but Bleep,even these "ok" Places only serves your Indians and white tourist masters,not the average Kenyas that stays in Kibera,Mathare,Dandora,Huruma,Kangemi,Kawangware.............

Chauke:



If nigeria was so great why are we infesting South Africa despite their dislike of Nigerians which they have shown in so many ways?

TheStronghold:
Why are we arguing which country is better? Honestly why is this a debate? Can both countries not be great? Do you see the UK and US people arguing which country is better? It's the bottom of the barrel syndrome. Only crappy countries have this debate. Prosperous ones don't care. That said, I do appreciate the relatively level headed conversation between Nigerians and Kenyans. I think other countries jumping into this conversation have turned the conversation south and derailed the thread.

MtuMsuper:

What i have been barking up and down ,just to get a simple overview. Yes, i have seen the phenomenon in nollywood movies, and i have also been told by a very knowledgeable person who has visited nigeria, that folks there.rely on borehole water for water supply, and soakaway for disposing of greywater.

@forgiveness, can you take it as a task and research on this? Defend 9ja with facts, not superiority (lol!) complex.Start with where you live

GERALD710:

Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s .Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water

TheStronghold:
Why are we arguing which country is better? Honestly why is this a debate? Can both countries not be great? Do you see the UK and US people arguing which country is better? It's the bottom of the barrel syndrome. Only crappy countries have this debate. Prosperous ones don't care. That said, I do appreciate the relatively level headed conversation between Nigerians and Kenyans. I think other countries jumping into this conversation have turned the conversation south and derailed the thread.

MtuMsuper:

Mr random number, you dont have a monopoly on anything, insults included, so you best take on the man on the basis of his content. Since you claim to have lived here once, give us a comparative analysis of how average nigerians living in a town whose size is worth mentioning, get their water and dispose of waste.

Simple.

Obi1kenobi:


What sewer system? Only very few areas in Lagos have sewer systems. 99% of Nigerians construct their own septic pit with soak-away to dispose of sewage. Every few years, when it fills up, we call sewage disposal tankers that come and suck it up and dispose. There's no doubt that in terms of public utilities, Nigeria is one of the worst countries in Africa. Regardless, I highly doubt sewer systems are as widespread as you're making out in Kenya.

Obi1kenobi:


I have a life here. What does this nonsense have to do with the fact I stated? If you can disprove it, do so. Stop digressing with irrelevant comments. Stop this silly bragging over a messed up country.

Obi1kenobi:


What sewer system? Only very few areas in Lagos have sewer systems. 99% of Nigerians construct their own septic pit with soak-away to dispose of sewage. Every few years, when it fills up, we call sewage disposal tankers that come and suck it up and dispose. There's no doubt that in terms of public utilities, Nigeria is one of the worst countries in Africa. Regardless, I highly doubt sewer systems are as widespread as you're making out in Kenya.

MtuMsuper:

Ahaa!! 99% of folks using septic tanks ad very few places in Lagos with sewer lines. Is that even sustainable? And dont you think public services and their efficacy are what defines and separates greatness and mediocrity btwn nations?