Nowenuse:


Nigeria has different kind of peeps.
We have many who believe that the country is better divided e.g Obi1kenobi (and i really don't blame them though), cos Nigeria was never supposed to be one nation. It was only merged as one due to colonial administrative convenience.

Have you been able to prove any of my assertions as lies? So, how can you tell am a supremacist? You want me to allow you guys magnify Nigeria's problems while you magnify Kenya's progress?

Muafrika2:
Good to know.

It explains the sharp divisions and where the ideas of cessation come from. I think it was similar to our coastal strip which was allowed a semi independent existence for sometime. They sometimes harbour dreams of cessation

Shaytun:

Steadily but surely.

I don't know any Swahili

MtuMsuper:

confirmed. my bad. Chichewa is a national language in Malawi though, not official. I have heard it spoken and it sounds like shona language of Zimbabwe. They are so close, a stranger cant tell the difference. And even more interesting is the similarity in names between shona people of Zimbabwe and Mijikenda people of Kenya, its eerie. But the spoken shona sounds like maragoli dialect of the luhya people of kenya.

Nowenuse:


Nigeria's brokin is the most increasingly spoken language. In some places, like the state i am now, even the political leaders speak it with the people when adressing them. Almost all the elderly people speak it. Even in official settings it is spoken.

Pidgin is the increasing urban language in most of Nigeria. The northern part of the country used to be the people arguing against the language being our national/official language, but now the language is gradually penetrating the North (e.g my home city Jos in the north, pidgin is now gradually displacing Hausa as lingua franca).
Many Ghanaians and Cameroonians are now adopting the language.

Shaytun:


Even the English we are speaking of is not exactly a perfect language you have many borrowed language into it just like the pidgin

TayserMahiri:


Kusema kweli sijafika kwenye vikao vya kaunti, lakini najionea mwenyewe kwenye runinga. Hapo kwa Beijing, itakuwaje wakianzisha jopo lisilo kama kwenye kaunti zingine/ katiba? Maoni murwa lakini

TayserMahiri:


The Ghanians and Cameroonians just lack a local pidgin language. Swahili is spoken in so many countries and spreading very rapidly. It is even an official language of the AU. Wait untill it is offered in nigerian universities and you guys will be taken...

Nowenuse:


All of you Bantus are similar, you have same ancestors from Nigeria/Cameroon axis.

This is why i support a Bantu union in Africa. You guys should try and trace the original proto Bantu language and promote it! (this may end up being the language to unite Africa) as Bantu is the largest subgroup of the Black race.

Swahili on it's own will never be able to penetrate Southern Africa, West Africa and West-Central Africa.

Nowenuse:


Swahili lacks the power to dominate Africa because the countries who speak swahili are not powerful enough. It takes the language of a powerful country to dominate a continent.

Swahili has not even finished dominating Uganda. The southern half reject the language and favours Luganda. In Congo, Swahili still has 3 powerful lingua francas (Lingala, Kikongo and Tshiluba) to compete with. Rwanda and Burundi are very small, uninfluential and insignificant countries in Africa.

Until there is a powerful, dominating and large country speaking swahili in Africa, the language will never dominate Africa. Arabic is even doing better.

TayserMahiri:


I remember Maseneta walikuwa wakijichocha vile wao ndo kusema, na gavana hakuna hehe. Hivi sasa sidhani kuna yeyote anayetaka kurudi seneta.

TayserMahiri:


My goodness, talk of chaos abi? WHy would people not pay bills? Do they want free water? I am not sure I would trust borehole water at all in a city esp like Gidi

Nowenuse:


Pls abeg, Nigeria is targetting to be at par with countries like Brazil and not SA.
What does SA really have better than Nigeria apart from their infrastructures which they started building hundreds of years ago?

The inequality in their country is still very high. They have worse slums than us. HIV aids is ravaging their population. We are making inventions than them in many aspects. The income per capital difference btw us and them is quite small.....

MtuMsuper:

Has any language ever united Europe, Asia or pre columbian America?

forgiveness:


Nairobi is inconsequential when it comes to African politics.

MtuMsuper:

How do you perceive/understand/practice this thing ,whats it again,....ah yes "power" ?

MtuMsuper:

There is a dearth of information regarding water, sanitation and all things appertaining on Nigeria on the internet. Even your federal/state agencies are wanting You just hit a brick wall everytime you try and research. Its frustrating, hence the only way we can solve this is for a knowledgeable head to weigh in.
Until then , i will have to rely on what I've been told by a first hand observer and what Obi1kenobi has affirmed. That is there is no organised and standardised water and sewer reticulation in Nigeria.

Ps: You can tax folks all you want when they dig boreholes. Is that sustainable. With septic tanks all up and down the place. would you trust the water you drink? Dont you think regulation is a good and Necessary thing?

TayserMahiri:


In kenya its known as Sheng' or Swanglish. It incorporates local languages with swahili and english. You are speaking as if Pidgin is the official language of naija. I'm sure Buhari can't afford it, just like in Kenya where Sheng' is for the youthful fellas and elder people find it hard to keep up with its rapid changes.

Muafrika2:


Yep!

Right next to a soakaway

I stopped trusting borehole water after that incident in some place in a rural area where residents disposed some refined oil on a pit latrine, just before boreholes hundreds of metres downhill started oozing the same oil

MtuMsuper:

Hapo kwenye katiba ndo kasheshe.Naona kaunti ya Nairobi livunjuliwe mbali na wajumuishe wataalam wa fani husika kushughulikia maendeleo, uamuzi na mafanikio na uongozi wake. Nairobi haistahili uongozi wa hali ya 3, hasa ukizingatia ni mji mkuu kanda wetu wa afrika. Tuwe kama Beijing, ambapo kila kitu linashughlikiwa na serikali ya nchi kv Canberra ya Australia, Washington DC ya mareakani au hata Abuja ya hawa mahasidi wetu. Linahitaji ushujaa wa hali ya juu nani, ukitaka itendeke, lakini mate inawadondoka hawa watawala wetu na mifumo yao, hawatakubali. Napendekeza pia miji kama Mombasa na labda Ksm na Nkr waingie kwenye hilo box. Nimeona uongozi wa hali ya 7th katika hayo miji, sio mchezo.

Nowenuse:


Ok, do you know that the different North African countries have their own varieties of Arabic?
But, most Tunisians, Moroccans, Algerians, Libyans and Sudanese can understand Egyptian Arabic very well. This is because of the power and regional influence Egypt has.

If not for the fact that all Arabic speaking countries agreed to adopt classical arabic as their official languages (due to Arab league brotherhood). Egyptian arabic would have been a regional lingua franca. That's the kind of power am talking of.

Nowenuse:


Swahili lacks the power to dominate Africa because the countries who speak swahili are not powerful enough. It takes the language of a powerful country to dominate a continent.

Swahili has not even finished dominating Uganda. The southern half reject the language and favours Luganda. In Congo, Swahili still has 3 powerful lingua francas (Lingala, Kikongo and Tshiluba) to compete with. Rwanda and Burundi are very small, uninfluential and insignificant countries in Africa.

Until there is a powerful, dominating and large country speaking swahili in Africa, the language will never dominate Africa. Arabic is even doing better.

Muafrika2:

He he

Walidhani kazi yao kuwa muhimu kushinda ugavana Juzi walikuwa wanalalamika kuwa bunge pia inakataa kupitisha Sheria zao. Kusema kweli hawana meno kabisa! Afadhali kazi yao tuwape wabunge au washikanishwe kwa sababu kazi yao haionekani na inaweza fanyika bungeni.

TayserMahiri:


I know only two words, abi and oga. I'm not sure what any means, but I only use it when there is a nigerian around because no one else understands

uzzyfire:
every body in Nigeria speaks pidgin. its a language that brings people from different diversities toogeda

uzzyfire:
abi is like saying "right" then oga is like saying "boss"

NORMAL ENGLISH
He will soon be back right?

PIDGIN
He go soon come back "abi?"

NORMAL ENGLISH
I know that man, he is my boss

PIDGIN
I sabi that man, na my "oga"

Nowenuse:


Sensible Nigerians dont dig bore holes close to soakaways. Many Nigerians prefer Table and bottled water though.

MtuMsuper:

Kiswahili is the official and/or national language in Kenya,Tanzania,Dr Congo, and soon to be Rwanda.
Kiswahili got power baby!

Nowenuse:


Less than one-quarter of DR Congo speaks Swahili. Lingala is still the dominant language as it dominates Kinshasa (the centre of the govt).
In DRC, swahili is co-national with Lingala, Kikongo and Tshiluba. It's not the sole national language.

uzzyfire:
abi is like saying "right" then oga is like saying "boss"

NORMAL ENGLISH
He will soon be back right?

PIDGIN
He go soon come back "abi?"

NORMAL ENGLISH
I know that man, he is my boss

PIDGIN
I sabi that man, na my "oga"

TayserMahiri:


There is not anywhere in Uganda where they won't understand you if you speak swahili. Its only that they cannot leave their Luganda as it is part of their culture/ nationhood. For that reason, they speak both languages and swahili in particular when dealing with other east africans. Heck even Museveni speaks swahili to the media in Kampala.

As soon as the EAC merges, Swahili will be the top dog in Africa. Nigerian pidgin has a long way to be where Swahili is now and honestly, I don't see any comparison between the two given swahili is a full fledged language with its own kamusi (dictionary) and offered in universities around the world. Until Pidgin gets a standard, it will remain a shady language unusable in diplomatic circles.