Just30:
Ghana can decide not to accept refugees and you would be locked out.
You are talking as if it's not a matter of decision not accept

First of all, have you forgotten that ECOWAS is one? And there is a law that allows all West Africans all over the region in any country?

Apart from ECOWAS, no matter how tight your borders are, the population is too large for you to control.
Many of your own people would even be willing to smuggle Nigerians in for a bribe. You talk as if you are not a black man.
Many refugees may be armed too, terror groups would be flying all over. We don't pray for that, but your country is too small to withstand Nigeria's chaos.

Do you think Canada for instance can withstand USA's chaos?

fanficgirl:

My brother, I am Nigerian but a realist. Nigeria has the hardest most talented and intelligent people on the continent, but we are by and far nowhere due to horrible corruption and tribalism. True, most African Nations are doing horrible, but some are at least getting it right while Nigeria seems to be regressing. I wasn't talking about lingua.

Well, I understand you. However, if you consider the foundation of Nigeria, you will realise, it will take a real restructuring to make it work. Nigeria as it ought to be 100 times better if not more. And until the right and round peg is placed in a round hole, advanced western development eludes. Honestly, Nigeria is better than many countries in term of projects and infrastructural development despite the herculean challenges before her. Nigeria is too ideologically different to stand unified unless, Confederacy is adopted. Once, each group or tribe practises proper democratic set up which need be parliamentary as being practised during the first republic instead of the current presidential system which is too expensive for Nigeria to practice and it is even unitary system of governance. This is practically unhealthy for a nation that has done so much for other African countries in the past. There are tribes in Nigeria that are not represented in all the three tier of the government at the Federal. This make the Nigeria democratic set up not a popular one. And since, the federal dictate through unitary formation like the Army,the result will be ineffectiveness. Until the fundamental problems are corrected ,Nigeria Will operate at a slow pace to development.

fanficgirl:

Yes, I know it has to do with the Cold War and Soviet block, but not anymore.It now deals with nations standards ooof living and that doesn't take away from what I said.

no it does not, it's people who have misapplied it to that. you want to tell me Portugal is a first world country? Like I would laugh the whole day

Nowenuse:


First of all, have you forgotten that ECOWAS is one? And there is a law that allows all West Africans all over the region in any country?

Apart from ECOWAS, no matter how tight your borders are, the population is too large for you to control.
Many of your own people would even be willing to smuggle Nigerians in for a bribe. You talk as if you are not a black man.
Many refugees may be armed too, terror groups would be flying all over. We don't pray for that, but your country is too small to withstand Nigeria's chaos.

Do you think Canada for instance can withstand USA's chaos?

ECOWAS law say 90days of stay and it does not supercede national crisis law
Even EU countries have violated those laws and you think Ghana can't?

Nowenuse:



Do you guys think Nigeria is like Ghana with only one majority group?
If such a thing is done in Nigeria it would instantly lead to a civil war. Infact something like that was what caused the Nigerian civil war of 1967.

For instance, now, a Hausa-fulani man is the president, if such a thing happens, the northernerns would instantly term it genocide against their people, and you don't need to be told the kind of ethno-religious war that will ensue. And as it stands, no sane Hausa-fulani man would want to do anything to destroy a Northern presidency when they finally got it after a long time.

Ethnic and religious sentiments will always make Nigerians never to come to a meeting point.

ethnicity is what is holding your country back and most of you are happy to indulge in it.
Ghana is not a country with only one majority group but we know what the national interest is and what is not?

obaaderemi:
Your post shows you don't understand Nigeria's problem.The north of Nigeria is like somalia which will always reject any help or program to help it grow due to religious and traditional pride.Now,one of the greatest injustice the British did in Africa was to amalgamate these northerners with the southerners who have little in common with them.It didn't end there,the british handed over political power in Nigeria with the violent north and had helped them maintain it since them.That's what nowenuse meant.It's like kenya being yoked with somalia.It's an uneven yoke holding the country back.

The British surely had no good intentions for you, why would they hand power to the most backward people? Not surprising at all. For your info, kenya's north is also very backward, some entire counties (states for you) had never had a tarmac road since independence but have got them in the past five years. Really, its either you decide to work together as a country now or then split to stop wasting each others time.

Nowenuse:


First of all, i'd like to correct you, not the whole Northern half of Nigeria is backwards, the middle parts of the North (where i am from) are almost as progressive as Southernerns ok? The problem is the far or core-northernerns who are overwhemingly muslim.

Look at the reason why i am not contradicting myself.

Core-northern Nigeria has equal opportunities with every other place in the country. Infact they dominate Nigeria's politics and have produced more political leaders.
The problem with them is the kind of islam they practice, like the kind you find in Somalia. The kind of islam that makes a large part of their population unprogressive.

Core northnerns have government schools as much as the south, but they really don't have that educational zeal. They cherish islamic education more than western education. They believe that women should still be kept in purdah (indoors). They believe in Sharia law. They believe in having many children (probably so that muslims will outnumber christians).

Core northerners even have more states than others, they receive large monthly allocations from the federal govt as well as other states. The problem is their priority. So they are not neglected in any way, they only have a culture that is not very much wealth generating.

These don't look like problems to be overcome soon mehn ! I am beginning to understand the scale of problems in your country now.

fanficgirl:

Abeg, don't try and put the blame on us. In most of Nigeria's history Northerners have ruled the government. They neglected themselves and Northerners are too myopic to see this. I'm tired of the poor Northerners diatribe when they have been primarily responsible for so many military coups and small ethnic cleansings like whats happenings now.

Is there any solution then to this?

Nowenuse:


A southerner was the cause. A southern president (Olusegun Obasanjo) allowed this to happen.

I thought Obasanjo was the best leader Nigeria ever had?

fanficgirl:

Trying to belittle and mock Nigeria about electricity isn't funny. There are politics at play that prevent Nigeria from having stable electricity as it easily can do.

Goodness !!!. Its time to break up people. If thats the kinda politics

Maduawuchukwu:


You indeed have countries in which several codes are in operation. It is called Federalism which Nigeria practices although it is not popular in Africa. Different parts of a country might have cultural differences and this might neccesitate the creation of another tier of government like State governments or regional governments. This governments have the right to make laws in some areas that concern their territory without the interference of the Central government. That is where the power of some Northern States to adopt shariah comes from. However, there are areas in which only the Federal Government can make laws eg marital,police affairs and laws dealing with corruption.
So uniform code is not a prerequisite for the formation of a country.

The Federal system was never right from the beginning and it is not right for any country in Africa.

uzzyfire:
and d worst part is that northern Nigeria has d largest percentage of both population and land mass, so their backwardness is affecting Nigeria seriously

I wish we could here from their point of view too the northerners. Both sides of the coin

Please stick to Kenyan stuff cos your talking trash.

The British handed over to the Northerns cos they first met the North before the ever had dealings with the South, another reason is that the North at the time was considered more developed than the South because by the 18th Century most of the South was still largely unlettered whilst the North already had literary works from as early as 100 AD.

The North got the better end of post colonial deals because it had more man power in the defense industry. Do your readers h before you spew trash.

TayserMahiri:


The British surely had no good intentions for you, why would they hand power to the most backward people? Not surprising at all. For your info, kenya's north is also very backward, some entire counties (states for you) had never had a tarmac road since independence but have got them in the past five years. Really, its either you decide to work together as a country now or then split to stop wasting each others time.

TayserMahiri:


Goodness !!!. Its time to break up people. If thats the kinda politics

Nigeria can't break up, it will affect a lot of countries in Africa

Yes, restructuring.

TayserMahiri:


Is there any solution then to this?

Yeah like that county where the governor took a helicopter to go commission a bridge made out of bamboo. I laugh in swah!

TayserMahiri:


The British surely had no good intentions for you, why would they hand power to the most backward people? Not surprising at all. For your info, kenya's north is also very backward, some entire counties (states for you) had never had a tarmac road since independence but have got them in the past five years. Really, its either you decide to work together as a country now or then split to stop wasting each others time.

Just30:
ethnicity is what is holding your country back and most of you are happy to indulge in it.
Ghana is not a country with only one majority group but we know what the national interest is and what is not?

But the Ashantis are 50% of Ghana. Is that not a majority? What is it called?

Prior to independence and even some years after independence, Nigeria practiced the regional system of govt where we never had a united parliament. Each region functioned almost 100% independently of each other and during this period, individual regions promoted their own ethnic and religious identities.
So what do you expect? Our country was founded on ethnic identity by the demonic colonialists.

TayserMahiri:


I thought Obasanjo was the best leader Nigeria ever had?

LoL. I don't know what to reply u

@Nowenuse..was orkar's speech b4 the coup?No,sir.he gave that speech when he thought the coup was successful but they left a loophole which gen.razak took.thd rest is history.many yorubas supported that coup and about 7 yoruba officers were executed with him because everybody was tired of ibb.please don't tell me about orkar's coup.I didnt read about it online like many others.we got it fresh in 1990 and i have a feeling you did too.On gej,you said no southwest state gave him up to 1m votes.Well,he got 1.2m votes in lagos in2011 and won every yoruba state except osun despite the fact that they had ribadu as their own candidate.don't forget that was a time when most yoruba states voted out pdp.so,it wasn't about aligning with the north.the votes were against the pdp for its frivolity.But many middlebelters for many years had always considered themselves northerners,maybe you also do.I don't believe in the northcentral tag.i like 'middlebelt' better.There are things we shouldnt discuss on this thread,please.

Just30:
ethnicity is what is holding your country back and most of you are happy to indulge in it.
Ghana is not a country with only one majority group but we know what the national interest is and what is not?

what is dis one saying indulge in wat. Ghanas tribes are similar to each other in one way or d other ,so Ghana shud not talk wen it comes to ethnic diversities. we are talking of a country with 4 entirely different major tribes . we are so different that 4 countries can be carved from Nigeria. frickin 4!!!! that's y I just laugh anytime u guys are talking rubbish stereotypes abt Nigeria when u don't even know anything .

u think Nigeria is as straight forward as other African countries.

obaaderemi:
@Nowenuse..was orkar's speech b4 the coup?No,sir.he gave that speech when he thought the coup was successful but they left a loophole which gen.razak took.thd rest is history.many yorubas supported that coup and about 7 yoruba officers were executed with him because everybody was tired of ibb.please don't tell me about orkar's coup.I didnt read about it online like many others.we got it fresh in 1990 and i have a feeling you did too.On gej,you said no southwest state gave him up to 1m votes.Well,he got 1.2m votes in lagos in2011 and won every yoruba state except osun despite the fact that they had ribadu as their own candidate.don't forget that was a time when most yoruba states voted out pdp.so,it wasn't about aligning with the north.the votes were against the pdp for its frivolity.But many middlebelters for many years had always considered themselves northerners,maybe you also do.I don't believe in the northcentral tag.i like 'middlebelt' better.There are things we shouldnt discuss on this thread,please.

You are right bro. There are information which needn't be discussed on this particular thread. God bless you.

naijalander:

Please stick to Kenyan stuff cos your talking trash.

The British handed over to the Northerns cos they first met the North before the ever had dealings with the South, another reason is that the North at the time was considered more developed than the South because by the 18th Century most of the South was still largely unlettered whilst the North already had literary works from as early as 100 AD.

The North got the better end of post colonial deals because it had more man power in the defense industry. Do your readers h before you spew trash.

I think you were too harsh on TayserMahiri. He is not a Nigerian and does not know Nigerian history.

And truly yes, the North was more co-ordinated than the South when the British came. The northernerns were already reading and writing Arabic, travelling for Hajj in Saudia arabia and the Sokoto caliphate was conquering and islamizing many places under emirate rulership.

@Tayser Mahiri, i bet you don't know that probably if not for the colonial masters who came, many more parts of Nigeria and west/central africa would have been islamized by jihadists from Sokoto caliphate.
My own people (in the north-central) managed to resist islamization because we were on the mountains and had the upper advantage cos the jihadists who rode on horses could not climb the mountains with their horses.

I hope u can now grasp it all. Core-northern Nigerians are descendants of islamists and jihadists. And the demonic british people left them just like that because of ease of administrative convenience while they (british) looted us to Europe.

uzzyfire:
what is dis one saying indulge in wat. Ghanas tribes are similar to each other in one way or d other ,so Ghana shud not talk wen it comes to ethnic diversities. we are talking of a country with 4 entirely different major tribes . we are so different that 4 countries can be carved from Nigeria. frickin 4!!!! that's y I just laugh anytime u guys are talking rubbish stereotypes abt Nigeria when u don't even know anything .

u think Nigeria is as straight forward as other African countries.

no African country is straight forward . Your leaders can't just cut it and it goes all the way up to political leadership

Olu317:
You are right bro. There are information which needn't be discussed on this particular thread. God bless you.

And you and all your own.

Nowenuse:


But the Ashantis are 50% of Ghana. Is that not a majority? What is it called?

Prior to independence and even some years after independence, Nigeria practiced the regional system of govt where we never had a united parliament. Each region functioned almost 100% independently of each other and during this period, individual regions promoted their own ethnic and religious identities.
So what do you expect? Our country was founded on ethnic identity by the demonic colonialists.

no the Asantes are not 50% . The Akans are about 60%

obaaderemi:
@Nowenuse..was orkar's speech b4 the coup?No,sir.he gave that speech when he thought the coup was successful but they left a loophole which gen.razak took.thd rest is history.many yorubas supported that coup and about 7 yoruba officers were executed with him because everybody was tired of ibb.please don't tell me about orkar's coup.I didnt read about it online like many others.we got it fresh in 1990 and i have a feeling you did too.On gej,you said no southwest state gave him up to 1m votes.Well,he got 1.2m votes in lagos in2011 and won every yoruba state except osun despite the fact that they had ribadu as their own candidate.don't forget that was a time when most yoruba states voted out pdp.so,it wasn't about aligning with the north.the votes were against the pdp for its frivolity.But many middlebelters for many years had always considered themselves northerners,maybe you also do.I don't believe in the northcentral tag.i like 'middlebelt' better.There are things we shouldnt discuss on this thread,please.

Well, i agree with Olu317, let's leave bitter histories behind and limit the amount of things we discuss on this thread.

The bottomline is that the South needs to unite as one and tag the middlebelt along, if not the core-north will continue to mislead the country. Do you agree?

Just for the records, you said middlebelters identify as North, biko, were we the ones who colonized ourselves? Millions of yorubas in Kwara and Kogi also identify as North-central. We hate the name but what can we do about it? ....You yorubas are a majority group with so much influence and power, what are you guys doing about your people trapped in the North?
If majority groups cannot do anything about it, i wonder what minority groups will now do.

Just30:
no the Asantes are not 50% . The Akans are about 60%

Are Asantes and Akan not same people?
Whatever the name is, i do know that an ethnic group in Ghana has an absolute majority population. This is non-existent in Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


Are Asantes and Akan not same people?
Whatever the name is, i do know that an ethnic group in Ghana has an absolute majority population. This is non-existent in Nigeria.

Asantes are just 15-20% of the 60% Akans

Nowenuse:


Seriously, believe me, my hatred for Indians have increased. Woe unto any Indian that comes my path in life.

Abeg same. Indians shall feel our vengence ten fold

MtuMsuper:

Shame!!!
Okay, let me rephrase it this way : How can Nigeria claim to be one entity and yet operate different codes of law within the same polity?
So tell me now: if i am caught overspeeding on the highway , beat up a man , drink alcohol in my house, and play chinese music in my house , All in the same day ---- take me through who and what am likely to face to be punished for my misdemeanors and / or "crimes".

Nothing in the South, except for maybe beating a man

Nowenuse:


Yes it was not a public campaign, but are you not aware of the public speech that was given by Gideon Orkar when he called on Middlebelters and Southernerns to arise and unite as one people? Do you want me to paste it here? It is all over the internet, pls google it and see!

You yorubas unite with the core-north more than Xtian middlebelt and that is a fact!

In 2011 elections, FCT and 7 states of the middlebelt/northern minorities voted for GEJ.
States like Kaduna and Plateau with the largest christian populations gave GEJ over 1 million votes each! No yoruba state gave GEJ up to 1 million votes in that election.

Even in 2015 election when only one yoruba state (Ekiti) gave GEJ their votes, 3 middlebelt states (Plateau, Nasarawa and Taraba) gave GEJ their votes while Kaduna state even gave more votes to GEJ than Ekiti votes for GEJ multiplied by 2. Kaduna votes for GEJ was even more than Abia state.
It was such a shame to see middlebelters supporting a southerner even more than the southernerns themselves.

Pls correct yourself.

True, Yorubas seem to side with core North the most

Nowenuse:



Do you guys think Nigeria is like Ghana with only one majority group?
If such a thing is done in Nigeria it would instantly lead to a civil war. Infact something like that was what caused the Nigerian civil war of 1967.

For instance, now, a Hausa-fulani man is the president, if such a thing happens, the northernerns would instantly term it genocide against their people, and you don't need to be told the kind of ethno-religious war that will ensue. And as it stands, no sane Hausa-fulani man would want to do anything to destroy a Northern presidency when they finally got it after a long time.

Ethnic and religious sentiments will always make Nigerians never to come to a meeting point.

Ghana isn't one, a Twi is different from an Ashanti but they are less tribalistic than Nigerian