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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by nastydamus(m): 9:43pm On Apr 26, 2017
Stanbic gave me 17.15% today for 330 days. I guess the figures dip when you're buying from the secondary market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 9:37am On Apr 27, 2017
nastydamus:
Stanbic gave me 17.15% today for 330 days. I guess the figures dip when you're buying from the secondary market.

nope. Depends on whats available. Some banks also limit your options to 3 tenors

FBN has a variety including the fantastic 18% for 63 days!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jpphilips(m): 12:13pm On Apr 27, 2017
OakPearl:

Please let's get this right one more time.
You can buy Tbills from the primary market even if you don't have up to N50m. You will only loose the right to insist on your own rate. What the bank does is to pull customers' funds together (which will have to amount to at least N50m and above) and bid with bank rate (you don't decide the rate) on the day of auction. When result of auction is announced and the Bank's bid is successful, you get debited and interest paid upfront.
At the secondary market, you don't wait for auction dates. You can walk into the bank any working day of the week and invest in Tbills. No auction. They just tell you their own prevailing secondary market rate like they do for fixed deposit. Secondary market rates are understandably lower because the bank simply resells what they bought from the primary market. I hope this clarifies us.

I don't think so, FBN capital has already asked their less than 50m naira customers to go elsewhere because they don't do secondary market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enomakos(m): 1:53pm On Apr 27, 2017
olujaidi:

Aren't MMF subscribers creditors?
is mmf the same thing as mutual funds?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ernie4life(m): 2:09pm On Apr 27, 2017
enomakos:
is mmf the same thing as mutual funds?



Yes


They are not creditors, it's a poll of funds
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 2:13pm On Apr 27, 2017
enomakos:
is mmf the same thing as mutual funds?

One type of mutual fund
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enomakos(m): 2:18pm On Apr 27, 2017
ernie4life:



Yes

They are not creditors, it's a poll of funds
oh thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enomakos(m): 2:24pm On Apr 27, 2017
olujaidi:


One type of mutual fund
ok thanks
I have been searching for page 1 to 200 about more information on mutual funds without success, can you please explains how it works

thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 2:59pm On Apr 27, 2017
enomakos:
ok thanks
I have been searching for page 1 to 200 about more information on mutual funds without success, can you please explains how it works

thanks



https://www.nairaland.com/878880/treasury-bills-nigeria/255#53402515

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enomakos(m): 3:23pm On Apr 27, 2017
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TomjoTM(m): 6:44pm On Apr 27, 2017
For Stanbic you can do Tbills from #500k to #50m, and what you eventually get as your interest will be so close to the stop rate, however for other banks you just have to submit your own quoted rate if you know what's best for you. On the new #50m rule, If your bank is saying gibberish, just move to Stanbic no time, you can get 0.1 less the stop rate if you go with the bank's rate, it is that close.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OakPearl(m): 6:47pm On Apr 27, 2017
jpphilips:


I don't think so, FBN capital has already asked their less than 50m naira customers to go elsewhere because they don't do secondary market.

FBN Capital is one in how many banks in the industry?
That they don't do it doesn't mean it is impossible.
For your information, they are the reason I now deal with Stanbic IBTC as I had to relocate my investment for the same reason.
Would you rather remain with them, fold your hands and watch your funds idle away because they won't bulge, while you miss out on opportunities available elsewhere? I doubt.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pafra(m): 7:42pm On Apr 27, 2017
OakPearl:


FBN Capital is one in how many banks in the industry?
That they don't do it doesn't mean it is impossible.
For your information, they are the reason I now deal with Stanbic IBTC as I had to relocate my investment for the same reason.
Would you rather remain with them, fold your hands and watch your funds idle away because they won't bulge, while you miss out on opportunities available elsewhere? I doubt.

FBN have already debit account for the 5th auction taken place on the 4th May. That is for the primary market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Partnerbiz(f): 8:08pm On Apr 27, 2017
Please how is custody fee calculated?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jpphilips(m): 9:20am On Apr 28, 2017
OakPearl:


FBN Capital is one in how many banks in the industry?
That they don't do it doesn't mean it is impossible.
For your information, they are the reason I now deal with Stanbic IBTC as I had to relocate my investment for the same reason.
Would you rather remain with them, fold your hands and watch your funds idle away because they won't bulge, while you miss out on opportunities available elsewhere? I doubt.

FBN Capital is not a bank!! cheesy
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Cation(m): 10:25am On Apr 28, 2017
I give honour to whom honour is due to in this house,please my people who has tried this t-bill stuff with diamond bank both primary and secondary matkets,How is their performance in terms of rates and minimum purchase? Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by anyara(f): 11:24am On Apr 28, 2017
please is it advisable to do TB with GT bank
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pafra(m): 11:27am On Apr 28, 2017
anyara:
please is it advisable to do TB with GT bank

It will depend on their rates
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexy14(m): 3:13pm On Apr 28, 2017
@ ROSABON FINANCIAL SERVICES you can do Tbills @ secondary markert and even get a better rate close to the stop rate, depending on amount of investment. for more details www.rosabon-finance.com or check out my signature .
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Sylverly(m): 5:41pm On Apr 28, 2017
Houstency:
With these outrageous and never-seen before rates, i am forced to become skeptical like @Poposki pointed out earlier. I just hope govt meet up with their debt servicing.

What are you waiting for? 18% for 65days is a good deal.
did you specify tenure or was it a round table kind of discussion where you are given the available tenures as well as rates and you chose
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jpphilips(m): 6:06pm On Apr 28, 2017
chukzyfcbb:

yea I understand your fears, u feel one day Nigeria will go broke and be unable to repay them debts right?

Well presently a speech from a world bank spokesperson also share same view. it is said that they(world bank) don't think that Nigeria has even revenue to meet its INTEREST payments seeing how much debt we had been accumulating and Yet to still accumulate. So its okay to worry coz in the long run it spells dom but then how does Nigeria generate funds to pay back?
- Print more money
- Increase the revenue generated

Kemi adesoun has decided to follow the option of increasing revenue, how?
By Increasing the Tax-net to capture in more people. Statistics say only 22% of companies pay tax in Nigeria , so we can start from there.
Also seeing how mean this govt can be at times. If they fail to capture more coys into their tax books, they may as well increase the tax on those complying to increase revenues. Talks have been going on , on how to increase our VAT.

U know naija, they can just bring up one funny policy, like they increase car import duty or increase the taxes on purchasing luxury products like champagne or jets....all these are in a bid to increase the generated revenue to meet the debt obligations.

just so you know, According to a sentence made by The former Cbn gov (lamido sanusi) He says ; Nigeria spends 66% of her revenue on debts alone.

So u have every reason to be concerned bruh! in the long run, we either increase the revenue or borrow less .make we no compound our woes, or bad as e bad we print more money if water wan pass garri (Inflation tendencies tho if this happen) lool


There are two types of debts, local and Foreign, TBN is a form of Local debt that printing more money can curb unlike the foreign debt that rely strictly on your foreign exchange earnings.
Printing more money will definitely increase the inflation bar, however, as more people benefit from the high interest rate, their principal left behind curb inflation as well, in other words, it is not rocket science for the CBN to create an equilibrium in the process, over time, there shouldn't be any significant loss for the investors and the nation.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:49pm On Apr 28, 2017
I want to invest for the first time in treasury bills. I want to invest 3m trough (Union Bank) My mum's bank. Like how much profit should i expect as my gain after 365 days. Will they pay me my interest monthly or at the end of the term or at the beginning. Is Union Bank okay?.

Please i need una assistance.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by EduC(m): 7:02pm On Apr 28, 2017
Hi FXUSER, pls can you give a detailed TA on FO? I want to invest in FO stock and I need a guide. I understand the risks and take full responsibility for my decision.

Kindly assist.

Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 7:13pm On Apr 28, 2017
okochaik:
I want to invest for the first time in treasury bills. I want to invest 3m trough (Union Bank) My mum's bank. Like how much profit should i expect as my gain after 365 days. Will they pay me my interest monthly or at the end of the term or at the beginning. Is Union Bank okay?.

Please i need una assistance.

it all depends on the rate u get, 365days as at the last auctions attracted rates between 18 - 18.9%...

so ur interest would be between 540,000 - 567,000. as the case may be. and its paid upfront. The upfront interest kills it for me, nothing beats paying me upfront.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:59pm On Apr 28, 2017
zamirikpo:


it all depends on the rate u get, 365days as at the last auctions attracted rates between 18 - 18.9%...

so ur interest would be between 540,000 - 567,000. as the case may be. and its paid upfront. The upfront interest kills it for me, nothing beats paying me upfront.

Thanks for the help bro. I will keep my eyes on the thread for the next auction
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexy14(m): 11:29pm On Apr 28, 2017
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Uchefrancis16(m): 10:02am On Apr 30, 2017
If you are new to TBills, you can learn a lot from this thread. However, if you find it tedious to scroll through the pages, gathering the information you need about it bit by bit, from page to page before investing, you might consider reading this article I've put together. Based on what I've learnt from this wonderful thread over the long stay.

It will help you understand TBills at a glimpse and help you get all the info you need to start investing in one place.

http://www.techdavids.com/2017/04/how-to-invest-in-nigerian-treasury-bills.html

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dejiotus: 11:32am On Apr 30, 2017
Uchefrancis16:
If you are new to TBills, you can learn a lot from this thread. However, if you find it tedious to scroll through the pages, gathering the information you need about it bit by bit, from page to page before investing, you might consider reading this article I've put together. Based on what I've learnt from this wonderful thread over the long stay.

It will help you understand TBills at a glimpse and help you get all the info you need to start investing in one place.

http://www.techdavids.com/2017/04/how-to-invest-in-nigerian-treasury-bills.html


Many thanks to Uchefrancis16 for the attached article on Nigerian Treasury bills. Quite informative especially for someone who is new to the market, and considering wether to invest.
I similarly share the writer's opinion as per my personal experience, that as of now (as things may change later), Stanbic bank seems to be the best in the market, and Zenith bank is not one of the good ones when it comes to Treasury bills. Zenith bank is of the habit of offering much lower interest rates to their customers, (and Stanbic the highest interest rates) from the CBN stop/marginal rates.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:00pm On Apr 30, 2017
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dejiotus: 1:59pm On Apr 30, 2017
Below are the results of the auctions on 19 April 2017, and for the 91 day tenor on 5 April 2017. Copied from the CBN website for forum members. The results will be particularly helpful to "big boys" forum members with more than 50M to invest.


Date of Auction 4/19/2017 4/19/2017 4/19/2017 4/5/2017
Security Type NTB NTB NTB NTB
Tenor
Maturing On 91
7/20/2017 182
10/19/2017 364
4/19/2018 91
7/6/2017
Amount Offered (N mn) 36786.99 35000 95730.42 35000
Subscriptions (N mn) 37,846.99 35,060.00 105,221.52 37,500.00
Tot. Successful (N mn) 12,295.10 25,509.32 51,818.56 35,000.00
Net Sales (N mn) 12,295.10 25,509.32 51,818.56 35,000.00
Range of Bid Rates 13.4990 - 17.0000 16.7000 - 18.0000 17.0000 - 22.0000 13.1500 - 14.5000
Successful Bid Rates 13.4990 - 13.5980 16.7000 - 17.4000 17.0000 - 18.9800 13.1500 - 13.5511
Marginal Rate 13.598 17.4 18.98 13.5511
True Yield 14.0752 19.0531 23.4113 14.0249
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by McFabian07(m): 11:19pm On Apr 30, 2017
Uchefrancis16:
If you are new to TBills, you can learn a lot from this thread. However, if you find it tedious to scroll through the pages, gathering the information you need about it bit by bit, from page to page before investing, you might consider reading this article I've put together. Based on what I've learnt from this wonderful thread over the long stay.

It will help you understand TBills at a glimpse and help you get all the info you need to start investing in one place.

http://www.techdavids.com/2017/04/how-to-invest-in-nigerian-treasury-bills.html



Nice write up.
Straight forward too.
You didn't state how much minimum one can invest. is it only million million? or can lesser amounts be invested. what's the practical minimum?

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