Joebie:
I'm not sure why. I've been checking too.

TheSuperNerd:
Kelechi is mostly talked about not because he is more loved...... it goes beyond the love.

Iwobi too is loved by all.... in fact, we have more arsenal fans on this thread than Man city fans... so Iwobi hardly faces criticism here.... that is the truth.

But Nacho... he is mostly talked about for many reasons and one of it is because Some just want to show that in Man city, Nacho is in the wrong club just because they don't fancy Man city.... and that drills and training adds nothing Much to a player forgetting that Ighalo deteriorated with playing time and that Rohr still gave him invites during his trying times yet he failed to deliver for us.

If Nacho was at Arsenal.... we won't be hearing this outcry.

I believe in being distinct in matters as sensitive as this. Do I want nacho out of Man City? Hell yeah.... ofcos I do want him out...

Does Nacho not playing make City a bad club? Hell No!

Is Pep an ass for leaving nacho on the drilling/training ground and even saying Nacho actually works hard in training and making some good progress and yet still not include him in matchday squads?? Yes he is... he is an ass.

Is pep a bad coach? Nope... he is one of the best but as a manger of men he is poor and has a lot to learn.

What should Nacho do now that Pep hasn't always rated him? Just focus on training and keep giving your best... make the most of the situation at least until Summer arrives...




These are my stands... I am being distinctive and not muddling it all up....

This is what I expect we as Analysts of the game to do.... be objective and fair in comments.

TheSuperNerd:
She said it is right for others to use unhealthy digs and insults to show displeasure of a situation... and I call that immaturity on that count... what is wrong in saying it as it is?

I even joked about her "worst immaturity" threat in case nacho remains at City... we definitely said that tongue-in-cheek.... or you didn't see "looollll "?


Anyway, I told you all to leave this nacho issue alone... but most choose not to listen... because poking jokes at his situation is just fun isnt it?

TheSuperNerd:
And when people speak on watsed talents and the name Nacho comes up, you will be there of course.... right? You actually envision such reality?? *smh*


Being pained about something doesn't mean I must yarn rubbish about Nacho or make fun of his situation.

He is our own.... and the purpose of this thread is to post news and discussions and talk positives about our rising new generation in the super Eagles.... and Nacho is one of our key youngsters...

So you don't expect me to go against the codes of this thread as The primary purpose of it is still not lost on me....


Remember I contributed to the name of this thread so maybe that is why I will never resort to unhealthy digs and insults when it concerns our players who are the key actors in Nigeria's possible rise of her next golden age....

Or maybe I won't insult his situation or poke fun at it becos it is just not in my nature to do so....

I understand that conditions are only temporary.... so let summer come.... and hopefully the best decision is made by him and his camp....

maidaboi:
last season were we calling man city a bad choice?
When we were voting for golding boy award who has more fans in this thread?

safarigirl:
welcome to the fold dear. Hopefully, your presence will be beneficial to us all

Whatever you do, stay away from any arguments with Sir thegoodjoe and Oga forgiveness

jamel9:
You wrote immature in you previous post. That is going overboard. Two wrongs can't make a right, that is simply what i want you to know. There is a way to pass your massage accross without some provocative word.

TheSuperNerd:
There are some who always never rated City and till now they still don't.... that is a fact.

Some don't think Pep is a class-act coach.


And during the golden boy awards... Iwobi finished ahead of Nacho and we focused on voting Iwobi more while sharing some to nacho... this was done because Iwobi was closer to the top position when the votings began than nacho....

So if na golden boy you wan use... Iwobi also has more fans... looooollll


But it is no hidden fact Naa.... Iwobi is hardly criticised here.... but Nacho gets the stick oftentimes... even when he plays, 10 pages can be exhausted just on discussing why Nacho failed to trap the ball in a game while ignoring that he also scored or gave an assist or did a nice move in that same game.


But me... I defend Iwobi as much I defend Nacho.... I love them both and also show love and regards for all our Nigerian players all around the world..... this is why I do my best to give all equal coverage here and not make the thread only about Nacho and Iwobi.

safarigirl:

I am envisioning such a thing happening because his current path is not favorable. This is being realistic, he is out of people's minds as it stands. Even City fans don't know they have a player like Kelechi currently, so what are we talking about? If he stays one more season, his next club move will be to some Chinese league and that will be the end.

the purpose of this thread is not to 'talk positives' about our boys. It is to state facts rather than sugarcoat the obvious.

This is not the Cadet thread where we can go easy on them because they're kids. This is the Super Eagles thread for men and if some posters feel like a player is being lackadaisical, then said player should be called out.

No be every time, you go dey sugarcoat. We've gone hard on Onazi here, nobody was saying take it easy then. Dem tackle Efe Ambrose finish, he don turn fringe player. Musa has been drilled to the ground on this thread, nobody was taking it easy on him, he's even on the verge of losing his spot. Baby Iwobi has been called useless amongst other things on this thread, And let me not even start with what Mikel has gone through here

Everybody will have his day, let Kelechi enjoy his own too. There is no sacred cow on this thread

PS: If something doesn't seat right with you, it doesn't mean it is 'rubbish'. I did not see any 'rubbish' at any time. I saw comments from frustrated fans of a talented player

TheSuperNerd:
She said being insultive and using unhealthy digs is the way to go naa.... about being unhappy with something...

and I said... if anyone does that they are being immature.... how is that an insult? or being provocative?

Is it now a crime to say truth? why would the truth now sound provocative? I was being very specific on one matter.... "how to relay one's displeasure of a matter...."



Lemme ask you... using insults and unhealthy digs when showing how unhappy you are with something, what does it show? Maturity in this aspect abi??

TheSuperNerd:
There are some who always never rated City and till now they still don't.... that is a fact.

Some don't think Pep is a class-act coach.


And during the golden boy awards... Iwobi finished ahead of Nacho and we focused on voting Iwobi more while sharing some to nacho... this was done because Iwobi was closer to the top position when the votings began than nacho....

So if na golden boy you wan use... Iwobi also has more fans... looooollll


But it is no hidden fact Naa.... Iwobi is hardly criticised here.... but Nacho gets the stick oftentimes... even when he plays, 10 pages can be exhausted just on discussing why Nacho failed to trap the ball in a game while ignoring that he also scored or gave an assist or did a nice move in that same game.


But me... I defend Iwobi as much I defend Nacho.... I love them both and also show love and regards for all our Nigerian players all around the world..... this is why I do my best to give all equal coverage here and not make the thread only about Nacho and Iwobi.

safarigirl:
the purpose is not to 'talk positives' about our boys. It is to state facts rather than sugarcoat the obvious.

This is not the Cadetv thread where iu can go easy on them because they're kids. This is the Super Eagles thread for men and if some posters feel like a player is being lackadaisical, then said player should be called out.

No be every time, you go dey sugarcoat. We've gone hard on Onazi here, nobody was saying take it easy then. Dem tackle Efe Ambrose finish, he don turn fringe player. Musa has been drilled to the ground on this thread, nobody was taking it easy on him, he's even on the verge of losing his spot. Baby Iwobi has been called useless amongst other things on this thread, And let me not even start with what Mikel has gone through here

Everybody will have his day, let Kelechi enjoy his own too. There is no sacred cow on this thread

TheGoodJoe:


I beg you. I do not remember anyone calling Iwobi useless. That is harsh. We love that guy so much.

maidaboi:
you said it your self iwobi was closer, if they were on par who will have carry the day?
No matter how you love them you must love one more than the other that is the fact and the truth.

AIG07:
You ain't Kelechi's only fan bro. Everybody wants the best for him. He is Nigerian and we all want to see him play and dazzle week in week out.

The digs thrown here are not to him but to the idea/philosophy that training thrumps real match time.

No one I repeat no one is happy seeing Nacho sitting on the bench or not even making the match day squad.

TheSuperNerd:
She said being insultive and using unhealthy digs is the way to go naa.... about being unhappy with something...

and I said... if anyone does that they are being immature.... how is that an insult? or being provocative?

Is it now a crime to say truth? why would the truth now sound provocative? I was being very specific on one matter.... "how to relay one's displeasure of a matter...."



Lemme ask you... using insults and unhealthy digs when showing how unhappy you are with something, what does it show? Maturity in this aspect abi??

safarigirl:
I remember very well, after we played Senegal. I remember because I made a comment asking thread members to cut him some slack.

They may not have used the exact term 'useless', but they implied it repeatedly

safarigirl:
I remember very well, after we played Senegal. I remember because I made a comment asking thread members to cut him some slack.

They may not have used the exact term 'useless', but they implied it repeatedly

jamel9:
Should i quote where you called those throwing a dig at kelechi as immature? What am saying is this, let us keep cool. They telling kelechi to go and drill is not as insultive as calling them immature.

TheSuperNerd:
And to you, you think you can tell which I love more.... if I do at all?

loooollll.... stop your assumptions and face the facts before you...

Iwobi is hardly criticed here... that says a lot. Only theGoodJoe said Iwobi deteriorated and You saw the legions that came to Iwobi's defence... including me.

Even Safarigirl have lashed Iwobi because of his social life and it was I who replied that Iwobi will never lose it...

so who do I love more.. if at all? looollll... mister... you can never ever guess it....

BascoVanVeli:
Lets go Sand Eagles!!! We shall not carry last.

TheSuperNerd:

They making it a point of duty to always poke fun at Kelechi's situation is as bad as laughing or mocking when you yourself are having it so tough and so bad in your profession....

It is absolutely discourteous.

I know what I said.... and you can go ahead and quote the post.... but also quote the post to which I also replied so that the context won't be lost on others.

TheSuperNerd:

When Onazi was being labelled "finished".... you saw his defenders....

His name wasn't left to be soiled.


When Mikel was tongue-lashed... I was the one who took the most hits as I stated facts to counter most....

I didnt sugarcoat for Mikel.... and I am not sugarcoating for Iheanacho....

Dont make it sound like Nacho is one bad player and has lost his mojo.... you are being too quick to jump into conclusions if you do that...

Nacho is still in the game but his stock gas fallen due to little or no playing time...


But he is not on the bench becos he has been poor or lost form... Pep just don't rate him... so I don't understand why you and others want so bad to bash him??

What has he done wrong exactly? what? I ask again what?

Abeg.... u guys should leave Nacho alone... when he does something wrong... that is when you will be right to bash him and I will back you up... but not when he needs support with a non-playing time situation which is not his doing as he has never lost form or failed to impress majorly....

So I really find it out of place and order to start making fin of him or lashing the him when he hasn't dome anything wrong....

safarigirl:
I never said it was the way to go. I said, it is the way people have chosen to express their disappointment and they have such a right to do so.

You don't get to determine what is mature and what isn't, people are different and will react differently to certain situations. Maturity is understanding that not everyone will react or see things like you do

TheSuperNerd:
If others resort to digs and insults to show their displeasure then it shows how immature they are....




And He certainly knows what he wants..... he won't make decisions based on people's reactionary outcry... people who don't even know the hidden details of what he is facing up there at the Etihad.



And saying that he is walking the wrong path is wrong. He didn't put himself on the bench.... he never lost form... he didnt have a super bad game. Pep just don't rate the kid.... and the least Iheanacho can do is to make the most of the situation by continuing to train and glean from City's top class training routines and also keep pushing himself in training even though the coach will almost never look his way.
Even when the coach did on the very few occasions, Nacho even scored and still got sent back to the Training ground to keep drilling.

Summer is coming... he can't leave now... let summer come.... You don't expect Nacho to go fight the board or say nasty things about the coach.... he is to be strategic in these situations and not reactionary like most of you here want him to be....

For now... he is to make the best of the situation and not carry a defeated mindset or Victim mentality. He is young yet he understands this.... so don't think he doesn't know what is best for him.

TheSuperNerd:
And to you, you think you can tell which I love more.... if I do at all?

loooollll.... stop your assumptions and face the facts before you...

Iwobi is hardly criticed here... that says a lot. Only theGoodJoe said Iwobi deteriorated and You saw the legions that came to Iwobi's defence... including me.

Even Safarigirl have lashed Iwobi because of his social life and it was I who replied that Iwobi will never lose it...

so who do I love more.. if at all? looollll... mister... you can never ever guess it....

TheSuperNerd:
I have been trained to understand that making fun of people's situations repeatedly is not a mature way to behave...

So your point about people reacting differently doesn't apply at all.

There are laid down etiquettes in human behavior and we must respect it regardless of opinion.

I may not get to determine what mature is on a larger scale..... but I remember my training very well as regards "laughing at others"

I hope we all are ready to be laughed at and jeered at when people don't really understand what you face........

safarigirl:
They are bashing his lack of ambition.

We want him to want more for himself. The fact that he's just hanging around means he's doing something wrong.

Kelechi could be someone's little brother or son on this thread, that is how some of us see him and no matter how much you love your little brother or your son, there is a certain trait he will show that will make you call him out and tease him until he drops it. That is how you show love, no be every time you go dey defend person. Some times, you stand by and watch others slam him, then you can drop a message of support and move on. You must not take on each slammer one-on-one, that is not love.


I have not even started bashing him and you're already accusing me of doing so, just because I said you should allow people express their anger as they wish, i can only imagine what you will say when I actually bash him

maidaboi:
why will we ask him to leave if we don't love him
let me correct something the "drills" and other names called here are targeted at thegoodjoe and not kelechi