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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 1:51pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


Answer the question first and let me disgrace you and your logic.

If I were you I will read your initial post carefully think well before responding

You answer mine and tell me what u wanna talk about.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:55pm On Apr 29, 2017
Chelseafan1:


You answer mine and tell me what u wanna talk about.

Answer what? Did I not ask you the question first.

Will Chelsea city or manure win the Greek Cypriot or Dutch league with ease

Yes or no and give reasons

Diggz danhumprey
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 2:09pm On Apr 29, 2017
Chelseafan1:


My Associate Pastor, may the Lord bless you.

Wetin I do na? cheesy

We dey find funds to raise our church foundation and you no jasi me say one sport investment dey.

Senior Pastor why?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 2:10pm On Apr 29, 2017
Raumdeuter always answering questions with question.

And you go call am logic.

I dey tire for you most times cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Danhumprey: 2:19pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


This is basic common sense.

To all who disagree, will chelsea man utd or city win the Dutch or Czech league with ease?

Diggz danhumprey chelseafan1

Tell me why they would or why they won't
I won't be foolish to think that just because UEFA ranks the Dutch and Czech league below the EPL, so Chelsea, Man United or Man City will go to those leagues and stroll to the trophy un-opposed, unchallenged.

Nah.

I'm not that deluded. there will definitely be some competition, fierce competition even. no team will have lone monopoly of buying and fielding all the best players available. instead, all the teams are on equal level and footings.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Apr 29, 2017
Danhumprey:
I won't be foolish to think that just because UEFA ranks the Dutch and Czech league below the EPL, so Chelsea, Man United or Man City will go to those leagues and stroll to the trophy un-opposed, unchallenged.

Nah.

I'm not that deluded. there will definitely be some competition, fierce competition even. no team will have lone monopoly of buying and fielding all the best players available. instead, all the teams are on equal level and footings.

So your answer will chelsea city or manure win the Dutch Greek or Indonesian league

Do Madrid or barca win the la liga unchallenged or which league does anyone win unchallenged
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Apr 29, 2017
elrony:
Rumdeuter always answering questions with question.

And you go call am logic.

I dey tire for you most times cheesy

Which question did I answer with a question in this case
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:39pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


Read this post carefully and tell me if Chelsea city or manure will win the dutch Greek or Cypriot league easily

Bringing leagues that haven't produced ucl finalists for the past 20 years to the isssue. Apari ramuzaki you are a joke.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:40pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


So your answer will chelsea city or manure win the Dutch Greek or Indonesian league

Do Madrid or barca win the la liga unchallenged or which league does anyone win unchallenged

Stop turning Amala oga dayo grin no one is saying they won't win the epl however they will never dominate the pl like u want us to believe. It will simply never in this life!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:45pm On Apr 29, 2017
airmark:


Bringing leagues that haven't produced ucl finalists for the past 20 years to the isssue. Apari ramuzaki you are a joke.

So we should bring EPL that hasnt produced a ucl finalist for the past 5yrs to the issue? You are a reetard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:46pm On Apr 29, 2017
diggz:


Stop turning Amala oga dayo grin no one is saying they won't win the epl however they will never dominate the pl like u want us to believe. It will simply never in this life!

Tell us why they wont win the league regularly. I posit that if Madrid Atletico and Barca come to the EPL they will alternate the league between themselves

Prove otherwise

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:48pm On Apr 29, 2017
You see how logic works the same excuses they gave that Madrid and Barca wont win the English league is now falling flat when we ask if Chelsea City or Man utd will win the Portuguese Dutch or Greek league

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 2:57pm On Apr 29, 2017
Griffon:


Conjecture.

Klopp opined that they would both find this league difficult, that's his opinion. I drew up factors that could make it quite tough for Real and Barca, that is still my opinion.

So. . .?


Of course it is your opinion. It doesn't mean you are not wrong. When it is convenient, you use Klopp as the reason for your correctness. I bet as much as you hate Pep, if he said this same thing, you will agree only because it suits your narrative now.

If Chelsea lined up with Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale as front three, Kroos, Modric and any other idiot in midfield and Ramos, Marcelo, and any other two idiots as defenders, 8 times out of 10 tries, they will stroll to the league. (Assuming no in-fighting and off-field instabilities occur).

The other 2 times, it'll be the next best team. The same applies to Barcelona. EOS!


All these other yarns na just sentiments. If Chelsea had the squads of Barcelona or Madrid, and we don't win the league, it would be considered a disaster. That's how much better they are.

If Barcelona and Madrid were in the EPL, their only business will be by how much they spank other teams.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 3:03pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


Which question did I answer with a question in this case

Egbon, that na your default settings ni.

You like am die cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spartacus11(m): 3:07pm On Apr 29, 2017
4 wins will do it for us, lets go for Gold boys, the league can be ours if we keep fighting.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:10pm On Apr 29, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Spurs won't sell Bale to Real, Chelsea wont sell Hazard to their rivals, Real or Barca, Man utd would never sell Cr7 to their rival real, just as Barca wont sell Neymar to Madrid.

Isco sef, Real wont agree to sell to Barca for any amount.

Just as Spurs won't dare sell Erickson to us, same way, they wont sell to Real or Barca in the same league....

The Epl money is almost evenly distributed among all teams, how would Barca and Madrid have so wide a spending power than Chelsea, Man utd, Arsenal, City in the same.

How will these two teams have the infinitely better squad in the EPL.?

Make no mistakes, all the big team will become equals or almost of same depth.


This becomes incredibly complicated. I cannot argue with the sense you make but only in a separate debate. Where do we draw the line? Dayo just asked if Chelsea or City will not win the Greek League. Some Greek grass-root fellas could come up with stats of how many Youths are being taken away from their grass root football with resultant effect that impedes equality. Then they come up with arguments like..... "To start with If Chelsea were in the Dutch league, then Roman would not have bought them and City would not have been owned by Billionaires".

Where do we draw the line with such arguments?


We are talking pound for pound, forgetting all the in-betweens. Unless we are not; as anything else just injects an incredible amount of complicacy that renders the whole debate a complete non-starter and a huge time-waster.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:16pm On Apr 29, 2017
afrodoc2:
Nihilist and other gamers pls what do you guys know about the Razer Raiju and the Nacon Revolution and which is better?
And are they significantly better than regular dual shock?

I read the reviews when they came out and their not very good. I think the DS4s are as close to solid as controllers come. The only issue with them is that the rubber cover for the analog sticks are not very durable...though these are very easy and cheap to replace.

The undisputed best controller out there is the Xbox elite. You can buy an PS4 adapter for it for use on your machine.

Best of luck
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:17pm On Apr 29, 2017
nateevs:

This becomes incredibly complicated. I cannot argue with the sense you make but only in a separate topic. Where do we draw the line? Dayo just asked if Chelsea or City will not win the Greek League. Some grass-root fellas could come up with stats of how many Youths are being taken away from their grass root football with resultant that impedes equality. Then they come up with arguments like..... "To start with If Chelsea were in the Dutch league, the Roman would not have bought them and City would have been owned by Billionaires".
Where do we draw the line with such arguments?
We are talking pound for pound, forgetting all the in-betweens. Unless we are not; as anything else just injects an incredible amount of complicacy that renders the whole debate a complete non-starter and a huge time-waster.

That was actually a trick question for them but you helped them resolve it

I am waiting for them to tell me Chelsea will win the Greek league then we start asking if Roman will invest millions he did if the team was in Greece, Will Mansoor have pumped billions if Citeh was in Portugal

Will Hazard Costa, Fabregas Azpi, Cortouis Aguero Silva KdB have gone to greek or Dutch league at their peak

Will the team be known as Chelsea or Manchester City if they were in Greek league assuming we want to pursue their illogical and foolish line of reasoning

If thats the line of argument then does it make sense to even start such argument in the first place and people like Klopp or anyone who made that argument surely didnt have that illogical excuse in mind

This is why I always say I bludgeon them with facts and logic. And those pursuing that line or argument will call themselves graduates. anyone who had a week of secondary education shouldnt even be pursuing

The more reason why I run a discrimination policy on who I respond to or quote based on intelligence. I have a feeling bigkesh wont pursue that illogical line of reason
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spartacus11(m): 3:19pm On Apr 29, 2017
one thing i have come to know about my beloved #CFC is that if any of our valuable player is been sought after we don't sell except the player involved has totally made up is mind to leave, we can hold him for a season soon enough if he his still bent on leaving we sell

e. g

Cech and now costa. for Hazard he has not shown us the nagging attitude so #CFC has no basis selling, if Hazard is willing to stay at Chelsea no amount of money and trophy can take him away to Real
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:24pm On Apr 29, 2017
nateevs:



Of course it is your opinion. It doesn't mean you are not wrong. When it is convenient, you use Klopp as the reason for your correctness. I bet as much as you hate Pep, if he said this same thing, you will agree only because it suits your narrative now.

If Chelsea lined up with Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale as front three, Kroos, Modric and any other idiot in midfield and Ramos, Marcelo, and any other two idiots as defenders, 8 times out of 10 tries, they will stroll to the league. (Assuming no in-fighting and off-field instabilities occur).

The other 2 times, it'll be the next best team. The same applies to Barcelona. EOS!


All these other yarns na just sentiments. If Chelsea had the squads of Barcelona or Madrid, and we don't win the league, It would be considered a disaster. That's how much better they are.

If Barcelona and Madrid were in the EPL, their only business will be by how much they spank other teams.

Oga Thank you. Dats what am trying to say.

With the current barca or rma squad in epl, dey would win the league back to back....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spartacus11(m): 3:25pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


That was actually a trick question for them but you helped them resolve it

I am waiting for them to tell me Chelsea will win the Greek league then we start asking if Roman will invest millions he did if the team was in Greece, Will Mansoor have pumped billions if Citeh was in Portugal

Will Hazard Costa, Fabregas Azpi, Cortouis Aguero Silva KdB have gone to greek or Dutch league at their peak

Will the team be known as Chelsea or Manchester City if they were in Greek league assuming we want to pursue their illogical and foolish line of reasoning


The more reason why I run a discrimination policy on who I respond to or quote based on intelligence. I have a feeling bigkesh wont pursue that illogical line of reason

it's possible look at Chinese league today oh, if they keep pumping money as they are doing now for the next 5 seasons, top players will rethink their future oh

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:37pm On Apr 29, 2017
Nihilist:


I read the reviews when they came out and their not very good. I think the DS4s are as close to solid as controllers come. The only issue with them is that the rubber cover for the analog sticks are not very durable...though these are very easy and cheap to replace.

The undisputed best controller out there is the Xbox elite. You can buy an PS4 adapter for it for use on your machine.

Best of luck

Thanks for the advice. I just might stick to the DS, I have never been a fan of the Xbox controller
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:29pm On Apr 29, 2017
nateevs:
Of course it is your opinion. It doesn't mean you are not wrong. When it is convenient, you use Klopp as the reason for your correctness. I bet as much as you hate Pep, if he said this same thing, you will agree only because it suits your narrative now.

If Chelsea lined up with Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale as front three, Kroos, Modric and any other idiot in midfield and Ramos, Marcelo, and any other two idiots as defenders, 8 times out of 10 tries, they will stroll to the league. (Assuming no in-fighting and off-field instabilities occur).

The other 2 times, it'll be the next best team. The same applies to Barcelona. EOS!

All these other yarns na just sentiments. If Chelsea had the squads of Barcelona or Madrid, and we don't win the league, it would be considered a disaster. That's how much better they are.

If Barcelona and Madrid were in the EPL, their only business will be by how much they spank other teams.

I wouldn't use Klopp as reason for my correctness, he is entitled to his opinion just as i am entitled to mine. And for the records, I don't hate Pep, what I loathe is fantasism.

To the matter wey dey ground, I'll advice you not to be so confident with this claim you're pushing, you're making your conclusion based on what you're seeing, which makes it a conjecture. You have no proof that Real and Barca won't struggle here.

Since we're talking squad, I guess I'd have to ask, what makes you think the other 19 teams in the EPL wouldn't dig deep in the transfer window to match Chelsea's half-Madrid team strength for strength?

This is yet another reason why I think the likes of Real and Barca would struggle in the EPL.

Take a look at this report:

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

Right there is a table that shows the amount of transfer fees paid by EPL teams every season, atleast for the past five seasons. The average money spent in transfer fees paid by each EPL side each season in the last five seasons would have you gobsmacked. No league pays more in the market every season than the EPL, no league has more investors who are willing to dig deep in the market than the EPL.

What am I trying to highlight? Real and Barca's teams CAN be matched with the insane spendings here.

They both have incredibly great teams, but how far have they been pushed in the La Liga?

I am talking about a league where only two teams spends over a £100mil each every season on the transfer market, whilst the other teams are meant to play catch up. For all Real and Barca's great teams, they've not been genuinely challenged in La Liga.

Barca's defensive frailties were exploited in the ties against PSG and Juventus in the UCL this season. They conceded a total of 8 goals in those two fixtures. But somehow, the same backline is rock solid in the league.

I don't even want to talk about the quality of managers in that league compared to what the EPL have got to offer.

There are many factors why La liga's best two teams would struggle in England, but then again, this would just pass as Griffon's opinion.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:44pm On Apr 29, 2017
I do not understand your post mate. Why have these investors not matched the spendings of Chelsea, City, United? With all the spendings, the big four is almost always known quantity for the last 10 years. So what point are we making here? I am not understanding.


Your link only proves one thing - that the usuals continue to outspend the rest. And so would it be, if Real and Barelona were to be fully immersed in our league. Why are you try to make it look like it will be any different? Madrid and Barcelona will outspend the rest. FACT! You are not saying much with your post mate.


Before this last season, there were only 2 or 3 great Managers in the EPL. The others were good/average at best.Which ones are we talking about? Moyes who went to Spain and failed miserably? Mr United who went to Spain? The naked truth is that these average EPL managers will be tested in Managerial and Tactical depth when they step outside their comfort zone. The managers who cannot even win the Europa league when they come up against average LaLiga sides are the ones you are praising to high heavens?

Abeg leave tory.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:46pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:


That was actually a trick question for them but you helped them resolve it

I am waiting for them to tell me Chelsea will win the Greek league then we start asking if Roman will invest millions he did if the team was in Greece, Will Mansoor have pumped billions if Citeh was in Portugal

Will Hazard Costa, Fabregas Azpi, Cortouis Aguero Silva KdB have gone to greek or Dutch league at their peak

Will the team be known as Chelsea or Manchester City if they were in Greek league assuming we want to pursue their illogical and foolish line of reasoning

If thats the line of argument then does it make sense to even start such argument in the first place and people like Klopp or anyone who made that argument surely didnt have that illogical excuse in mind

This is why I always say I bludgeon them with facts and logic. And those pursuing that line or argument will call themselves graduates. anyone who had a week of secondary education shouldnt even be pursuing

The more reason why I run a discrimination policy on who I respond to or quote based on intelligence. I have a feeling bigkesh wont pursue that illogical line of reason

This has been you for many years, angling to be among the crème de la crème on this board, but the more you keep trying, the more you keep exposing your ignorance.

I have lost count of your gibberish on this board. Boateng is better than JT, Bundesliga is better than the EPL, Goetze is better than Hazard, Pep would have EPL managers sonned, Aguero is finished etcetera etc. The more you try to stand out, the more you look clueless.

My old friend, you know nothing about facts and logic, I'll school you on that subject and you don't even have to pay a dime.

What we see and read in your posts are nothing but bouts of irrationality and delusions.

Dayokanu and logic in the same line? Certainly one of the seven signs of the apocalypse.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:53pm On Apr 29, 2017
Angling? Count how many people take you serious here

If you dont know you are seen as a wannabee, a Stan with no original thought

You lack logic, you are poorly educated, your facts are skewed

That is why you struggle so much to attach yourself everywhere. If you are not stanning nihilist, its 1bime if not ibime, its co0gar, if not cogar its natevs or trying to get into arguments 100 kilometers above your intellectual wavelength

What you should be doing is stay back read and learn logic common sense
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:54pm On Apr 29, 2017
nateevs:
I do not understand your post mate. Why have these investors not matched the spendings of Chelsea, City, United? With all the spendings, the big four is almost always known quantity for the last 10 years. So what point are we making here? I am not understanding.


Your link only proves one thing - that the usuals continue to outspend the rest. And so would it be, if Real and Barelona were to be fully immersed in our league. You are not saying much with your post mate.


There is a gulf difference, i am not debating that.

My point is simple as, the big guns here would keep spending to bolster their squads, a trend that would definitely present Real and Barca with a challenge if they were to be here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 5:05pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:
Angling? Count how many people take you serious here

If you dont know you are seen as a wannabee, a Stan with no original thought

You lack logic, you are poorly educated, your facts are skewed

That is why you struggle so much to attach yourself everywhere. If you are not stanning nihilist, its 1bime if not ibime, its co0gar, if not cogar its natevs or trying to get into arguments 100 kilometers above your intellectual wavelength

What you should be doing is stay back read and learn logic common sense

Hehehe. It's getting edgy in here.

Well, if I were to sit and read what you drop here, i reckon I'll be a fool. You can't give what you don't have.

You lack metacognition, like you don't even have the awareness of your ability to think. Why should i read your posts?

I am not after online fame, so save me the 'who knows you' line, its stale. Making 20 posts a day doesn't make you smart, you only advertising your idiocy 20 good times on peak hours.

Over the years, I have followed great minds here. I have learnt a lot from them and i am not ashamed to say it. I learn every day. Honestly, you are not among those great minds.

I see you as the clown here, the one with the jokes. I used to laugh to them back then, but they are no longer funny man. Were you into copying and pasting?

Your world shrivels down to a dot.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:09pm On Apr 29, 2017
I will leave natevs to do the schooling today

Its becoming laborious dealing with subzero IQ.

The poser by natevs which of you twerps will challenge it. Thats what superior IQ does, it points out faulty thinking in a jiffy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 5:29pm On Apr 29, 2017
raumdeuter:
I will leave natevs to do the schooling today

Its becoming laborious dealing with subzero IQ.

The poser by natevs which of you twerps will challenge it. Thats what superior IQ does, it points out faulty thinking in a jiffy

Lmao. Oga mi is this a cop-out?

Employing the services of a logician to do your thinking?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Apr 29, 2017
cop-out from what? You know I have always run a discrimination policy based on intelligence and you don't meet the threshold
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 5:55pm On Apr 29, 2017
elrony:


We dey find funds to raise our church foundation and you no jasi me say one sport investment dey.

Senior Pastor why?

I am so sorry MOG.

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