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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:31pm On Apr 30, 2017
According to International Telecomunication union (ITU)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

Nigeria has the 2nd highest percentage population of Africans connected to the Internet with 47% (86 million) of the population followed by Kenya with 46% while that useless Ghana of a country comes at 23% (even with their stable 24 hrs electricity).

You see, when people ask, how is the huge Nigerian GDP affecting the ordinary Nigerian. I just see them as plain being stupid.

Nigeria currently has the highest or among the highest middle class percentage population in SubSaharan Africa, unlike countries like Ghana where you just have the rich and the poor alone.

ITU's statistics is likely outdated or debateable because as of last year, 97 million (50% or above) Nigerians were estimated to have access to the internet and were active internet subscribers.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/192485-nigeria-internet-users-increase-to-97-million-ncc.html

We all know that it takes at least a middle class citizen in Africa to be an active internet subscriber. This tells us the huge population, power and percentage of Nigeria's middle class citizens.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 30, 2017
shervydman:
Nigeria, my sister o....keep up the good work. We'll surely get there one day!!!
You're always welcome
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by DonnieTheGreat: 12:32pm On Apr 30, 2017
MtuMsuper:

OMG!!!!!!¡
Why is no one challenging this guy?!!!
You did a very poor google search and lifted figures from the site of a new york city public authority. You would have buttressed your point if you would have shown there was no year on year growth. I think if i was to believe your figures, a growth from 700 bn$ to 1 trn $ is still growth. Again use the term Gross State Product(GSP).
You make a stupido claim that Lagos GSP DOUBLES every 2.5 years! Every 2.5 years!!!! Liar!

Let me teach YOU Math. If we were to take growth as compounded growth year on year to calculate the length of time it takes an economy to grow(and indeed this is what economists use), then that would mean that Lagos GSP growth is 31.9 % . We all know this is false!!! It would have been all over global financial news . You just plucked figures from the sky, and now you're going around chest thumping them. Someone earlier in this same thread showed how reported growth by Abuja is trashed by sound economic analysis based on the actual(read black market rate). In other words , a country with a weak currency that wildly fluctuates cannot possibly claim to be.able to calculate any economic matric with accuracy. I pray for the naira though, am not happy at the way african currencies are always at the mercy of stronger ones. Oga, speaking loudly doesn't make you right, it just makes you loud.
Likewise your claim that NY GSP increased from 700 bn to 1 trn , using the same formula gives us a annual GDP growth rate of 28% for NY city. Again a lie!! This would certainly been all over CNN, coz as we all know NY city is the financial capital of the world. In fact year on year growth rarely exceeds 2%, even 5 year growth rates are still in single digit percentages. ( http://www.deptofnumbers.com/gdp/new-york/)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183815/gdp-of-the-new-york-metro-area/




Ask me, i can recommend you a very good math book.

Yes bro you can recommend me a good math book. Am An Android/ AI programmer too so i won't mind some books on Modern Android programming and artificial Intelligence using "TensorFlow". You can buy them on Amazon and ship them to my address. grin grin.

Ok,
Lets analyse all you've said one by one:

firstly you said:
1. "I think if i was to believe your figures, a growth from 700 bn$ to 1 trn $ is still growth":

Yes sir there is something called inflation so a growth from $700 billion to $1 trillion over the period of 20 years cannot be technically classified as growth. Why? because if you calculate the inflation $700 billion dollars 20 years ago is roughly about $1 trillion now.

The Dollar is "supposedly" backed by "Gold"(America claims to have the largest gold reserves in the World) but America is also operating on Negative interest rates.


I would have loved to tackle your other points, but am sure that if you are as good in maths as you claim once you can calculate the inflation by yourself. you would have successfully answered most of your other questions.

Also,
No need to be abusive, using abusive word when arguing or countering an argument usually stems from low a intellectual point of view on the subject matter.

If you need help with the math let me know grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
Will Ghana having a billionaire give your country 24/7 electricity, eradicate the water situation you face or reverse the trend of Nigerians coming to Ghana for education, healthcare and vacation? Okay let Nigeria provide 24/7 electricity to the citizens for just a day. I meant just a single day not month, year or decades. As for Ghana we can contribute and make someone a billionaire in less than 24 hrs .. billionaire nko, 24/7 electricity ni .. is that not how you say it grin wink
health care ?grin y wud we go to Ghana for health care looll. Nigeria does not have constant electricity yet ,our smallest state is richer and more prosperous than Ghana that has constant electricity grin plss which one is more pathetic
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:33pm On Apr 30, 2017
O0XYGEN:

You see how foolish you sound.
Provide any index where kenya is ranked ahead of Ghana

Provide any index where Ghana, Nigeria or Kenya is ranked ahead of Cape Verde..... hahaha, fool who keeps relying on western indexes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 12:33pm On Apr 30, 2017
Which point don't you agree on? .. my stay in Nigeria made me do extensive research on the progress of countries on the continent. I know the countries that are doing better than Ghana, very few
shervydman:

good to know that.....though I don't agree on some points but i'll agree to let d sleeping dog lie.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Apr 30, 2017
Olu317:
OK bro. I just needed to put him where he belonged.

J'ai fini

Je vous salue
okay bros......now, imagine if Europeans and Americans are on this thread, what will they think about Africans?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:34pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
wait how is Kenya the economic powerhouse of Nigeria

loooolll Ghana no even get mouth were Kenya dey

Oh my gosh! I mean EAST Africa. Let me correct it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
Which point don't you agree on? .. my stay in Nigeria made me do extensive research on the progress of countries on the continent. I know the countries that are doing better than Ghana, very few
and do u know I've stayed in Ghana too?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:36pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:


You're always welcome
thanks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 12:37pm On Apr 30, 2017
Your GDP thing you talk about is not a western index huh? Okay .. just take osibanjo measure of your GDP being 90trillion naira. Convert that to USD and see what your GDP is since you can't rely on any western index
Nowenuse:


Provide any index where Ghana, Nigeria or Kenya is ranked ahead of Cape Verde..... hahaha, fool who keeps relying on western indexes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:38pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
Guy.. we Ghanaians have nothing on Nigeria either ..
our worst fear is for our country to be like Nigeria .. that's something I'm ready to fight against
wait, ur worst fear is for Ghana to become d giants of Africa grin loooooll that's a very stupid fear.

then stop trying to compare Ghana to Nigeria cos we aren't mates . Ghana has nothing on Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 12:38pm On Apr 30, 2017
Your GDP thing you talk about is not a western index huh? Okay .. just take osibanjo measure of your GDP being 90trillion naira. Convert that to USD and see what your GDP is since you can't rely on any western index
Nowenuse:


Provide any index where Ghana, Nigeria or Kenya is ranked ahead of Cape Verde..... hahaha, fool who keeps relying on western indexes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 12:38pm On Apr 30, 2017
uzzyfire:
health care ?grin y wud we go to Ghana for health care looll. Nigeria does not have constant electricity yet ,our smallest state is richer and more prosperous than Ghana that has constant electricity grin plss which one is more pathetic

Next all you have to ask them is what have they achieved with the 24/7 electricity that we haven't achieved. That can solve the problem.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:39pm On Apr 30, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:39pm On Apr 30, 2017
Muafrika2:

It would be good in terms of bargaining power on the international stage but it terms of politics, it would be hell. I think that's also the greatest mistake regional bodies like ECOWAS, EAC, SADCC, etc are making, working toward a political union. We only need cooperation, not unity per se.

How do you mean it would be hell politically?

I myself feel it would be better politically because it will reduce the over familiarities that have hitherto existed internally among the nations.

Take for example Nigeria, if West Africa becomes a single nation, there would be no Hausa vs Igbo vs Yoruba feuds or contest of superiority again because the new country is now bigger than the 3 of them! They would have newer and more numerous ethnic groups with better rescources and another level of thinking to compete with and in such a country, no ethnic group would be more than 10% of the population, thereby greatly enliminating anything like ethnic superiority.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:41pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
I don't know if you've been to Ghana before, I was in Nigeria for most part of last year.. Ghana is a better society to be honest..
then u will hate it in India
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 12:42pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:



Tho, watch out grin


https://www.alleastafrica.com/2017/02/28/ethiopia-may-become-the-leading-economy-in-east-africa/

I already posted thing long before now. Ethiopia has taken over from Kenya in terms of largest economy in East Africa already and still have a more promising further.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:42pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
Kenya is about twice the population of Ghana. However, Ghana leads Kenya in terms of development ..

In what development? Kenya's tourism sector is among the most advanced on the continent. They dominate the East African market almost unchallenged.

Nairobi city is a functional economic centre unlike your own Accra city that has no GDP and lacks economic viability.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:45pm On Apr 30, 2017
O0XYGEN:

Oh God .
Stop quoting me ok.
You are too dumb for my liking.
What is the essence of having a billionaire and at the same time having over 80% of your populace living in abject poverty?
What's the sense in that?
nigeria doesn't even control 1% of Ghana's economy so shut up there.
Ignorant slowpoke.
Do you fools even control your own country?
The Chinese, lebanese n south Africans are controlling nigerians economy while you dumbass morons are making noise on social media.
Don't quote me again
You are too dumb
Nigeria's poverty line is below 33% and not 80%.....take it easy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:46pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
Your GDP thing you talk about is not a western index huh? Okay .. just take osibanjo measure of your GDP being 90trillion naira. Convert that to USD and see what your GDP is since you can't rely on any western index

We calcate our GDPs ourself and present it to the world bank and IMF for confirmation. That is the difference!

Osibanjo is not the minister of finance nor the president of central bank of Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:47pm On Apr 30, 2017
O0XYGEN:

Oh God .
Stop quoting me ok.
You are too dumb for my liking.
What is the essence of having a billionaire and at the same time having over 80% of your populace living in abject poverty?
What's the sense in that?
nigeria doesn't even control 1% of Ghana's economy so shut up there.
Ignorant slowpoke.
Do you fools even control your own country?
The Chinese, lebanese n south Africans are controlling nigerians economy while you dumbass morons are making noise on social media.
Don't quote me again
You are too dumb

Idiot dig this
Nowenuse:
According to International Telecomunication union (ITU)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

Nigeria has the 2nd highest percentage population of Africans connected to the Internet with 47% (86 million) of the population followed by Kenya with 46% while that useless Ghana of a country comes at 23% (even with their stable 24 hrs electricity).

You see, when people ask, how is the huge Nigerian GDP affecting the ordinary Nigerian. I just see them as plain being stupid.

Nigeria currently has the highest or among the highest middle class percentage population in SubSaharan Africa, unlike countries like Ghana where you just have the rich and the poor alone.

ITU's statistics is likely outdated or debateable because as of last year, 97 million (50% or above) Nigerians were estimated to have access to the internet and were active internet subscribers.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/192485-nigeria-internet-users-increase-to-97-million-ncc.html

We all know that it takes at least a middle class citizen in Africa to be an active internet subscriber. This tells us the huge population, power and percentage of Nigeria's middle class citizens.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:47pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


I already posted thing long before now. Ethiopia has taken over from Kenya in terms of largest economy in East Africa already and still have a more promising further.

This year, we don't have a chance for the double digit growth. Maybe we'll take over in the next few years.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:48pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


I already posted thing long before now. Ethiopia has taken over from Kenya in terms of largest economy in East Africa already and still have a more promising further.

This year, we don't have a chance for the double digit growth. Maybe we'll take over in the next few years. Maybe. . .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:48pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


I already posted thing long before now. Ethiopia has taken over from Kenya in terms of largest economy in East Africa already and still have a more promising further.

Are you sure?
Kenya still has the greater influence though.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 12:49pm On Apr 30, 2017
You can shift the goal post the way you want .. I will leave you in the hands of your generator, always at your services 24/7 serving you noise and carbon monoxide fumes for free .. enjoy am well well till you get a Messiah to fix it for you .. after all fashola now realises 24/7 electricity is a rocket science .. no worries our competent VRA, Gridco and ECG are always ready to offer you know-how pro bono
uzzyfire:
wait, ur worst fear is for Ghana to become d giants of Africa grin loooooll that's a very stupid fear.

then stop trying to compare Ghana to Nigeria cos we aren't mates . Ghana has nothing on Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 12:51pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ednite:



Tho, watch out grin


https://www.alleastafrica.com/2017/02/28/ethiopia-may-become-the-leading-economy-in-east-africa/

The rate at which Ethiopia is growing is alarming and it will be competing with countries like Algeria soon. I believe another thing Ethiopia have lost is access to the ocean and Kenya is trying to make you guys depend on them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:53pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


How do you mean it would be hell politically?

I myself feel it would be better politically because it will reduce the over familiarities that have hitherto existed internally among the nations.

Take for example Nigeria, if West Africa becomes a single nation, there would be no Hausa vs Igbo vs Yoruba feuds or contest of superiority again because the new country is now bigger than the 3 of them! They would have newer and more numerous ethnic groups with better rescources and another level of thinking to compete with and in such a country, no ethnic group would be more than 10% of the population, thereby greatly enliminating anything like ethnic superiority.
Don't forget that the president would have to come from one ethnic group, and all appointments, contracts, development.

Of court there will be team ups of two or more tribes. The rest will have nothing left when the privileged few finish allocating themselves public resources.

There will be rivalries no different than now, because being in our designated countries has created a unique identity other than our previous tribal ones.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:53pm On Apr 30, 2017
Joonana:
24/7 electricity wink, we don't pump water from the ground like you do in your homes, improved access to health care delivery (national health insurance scheme + the best health facilities in the sub region .. security and free movement of people any time of the day .. we don't need security doors at our banks like you guys have... Nigerians can only dream of them .. on top of that the Ghanaian passport is valued more than the Nigerian passport ... Nigeria can aspire to achieve the social progress Ghana is enjoying now, not the other way round ... grin grin


As for the best health facilities in the sub region you aint right,you are definitely undoubtedly wrong,that you came to naija,does'nt guarranter that you have proper appraisal of situations here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Joonana: 12:54pm On Apr 30, 2017
Where in Ghana .. how long did you stay?
shervydman:

and do u know I've stayed in Ghana too?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:55pm On Apr 30, 2017
iblawi:


The rate at which Ethiopia is growing is alarming and it will be competing with countries like Algeria soon. I believe another thing Ethiopia have lost is access to the ocean and Kenya is trying to make you guys depend on them.

Top five most influential African countries with the highest economy by 2025 ( which they predicted) are. . .

Nigeria
Kenya
Algeria
Egypt and Ethiopia

i will try to find and post the link
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 12:55pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nowenuse:


Are you sure?
Kenya still has the greater influence though.

Market size, policies, security and others are enough to push Ethiopia above Kenya. In terms of technology and industries Ethiopians too are growing (if not above Kenya already). The also build some military ware on a low key.

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