Stats: 3,169,779 members, 7,875,932 topics. Date: Sunday, 30 June 2024 at 03:09 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 (10796274 Views)
Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London / Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe / Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (2864) (2865) (2866) (2867) (2868) (2869) (2870) ... (19504) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 3:33pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs: Uncle raumdeuter this is the post I reacted to. I hope you can see the list of clubs here? You cannot just bring in only juventus into this Convo. Thank you. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:45pm On May 02, 2017 |
diggz: Lol Diggz this is funny from you nateevs obviously meant the big teams of the time which are the ones he listed . In 2004, PSG isn't a big club, Monaco isnt a big club, CIty wasnt in existence, Liverpool were a Europa level team so what is the false equivalence you are trying to draw up here The big teams of those times were Barca-Etoo, Madrid- Ronaldo, Raul, Milan - Shevchenko, Arsenal - Henry, United- Nistelrooy and Juventus who made a bid for him and Inter - Vieri So if someone refers to it that Pele played for Santos, Cryuff played for Ajax or Eusebio played for Benfica. You will ask if they were good why they didn't play for PSG, Chelsea or City 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:07pm On May 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Kilagbe.....kileju!? Don't try to be smart by half dayo! It is really annoying sometimes. Instead of chatting bullshyte why not show me the list of too clubs that was after Drogba's signature? Maybe I should list the top clubs along with their strikers as an excuse for lukaku also,hope you can see how this will end? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 4:15pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs:I don't know about flicks and tricks but Lukaku has certainly got clever movement, you can't score 24 goals and counting in a season in EPL and not have movement and positioning, impossible. Against Chelsea he was constantly moving trying to open up space for himself to receive the ball but no ball was coming. I see no reason why Barcelona, Bayern, PSG, Madrid will come blazing for him when they have their own players(world class) to fill the ranks, the price Everton is putting on him is enough to drive suitors away in the first place. Actually it was Ian Wright that did analysis on Lukaku and I googled him, Ian Wright not only played as Striker, he played for Arsenal, so he has got that first team perspective you want and is opinion holds more water to me. No disrespect intended. I believe Lukaku can be successful at Chelsea because he has got that hunger for more and looking at other options available i doubt there is one that doesn't have a BUT. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:27pm On May 02, 2017 |
pamcode: So Madrid don't have their own players whilst courting Neymar, Hazard, Bale, Kroos? Barcelona did not have Messi when they were courting Neymar, Suarez? Hazard has nowhere near the number of goals Lukaku has scored and probably will never outscore Lukaku. Hazard is already 26 whilst Lukaku is just 23. But if Chelsea demand £80m for Hazard at this moment, history tells us Real will pay it. However, somehow, you think they won't buy Lukaku for significantly less, despite being younger, more prolific at goal-scoring and "hungrier" like you put it. Alhaji this defence is DOA. You need to fetch more reasons. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 5:00pm On May 02, 2017 |
I remembered last season FA Cup quarter final defeat against Everton, Lukaku scored the first brilliant goal of 2-0 dribbling like 4 of our defenders. I just kept watching the highlights now & yet he does nothing against big team. SMH. I don't know what he needs to contribute again, he should kukuma double himself to midfielder ![]() This was first week in April, Lukaku has the highest goals vs EPL Top 6 teams. 4 Likes 1 Share
|
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On May 02, 2017 |
diggz: I have shown you Juventus with evidence from the president of Marseille saying Juventus made a bid for Drogba |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 5:09pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs: In your defence/support raumdeuter listed top clubs in 2004 along with their strikers as a reason why they couldn't be bothered about drogba and I am guessing pamcode must have picked it up from there. You have to see reasons why the basis of Ur argument is weak and definitely not good enuff. You cannot condemn lukaku on the premise that no big club wants to sign him. If for nothing CFC are considering his signature and for good reasons too. I asked dayo to list out the names of big clubs who wanted drogbas signature before we signed him and I got only Juventus. If I decide to do some digging into your old post I am sure I will find were you blatantly condemned drogba with the reasons you are using against lukaku presently. I actually drew Ur attention to Costas style of play and I am surprised you are rating him at all. The same Costa who keep 9 out of 10balls passed to him most of the time! The truth is, I can agree with the type of strikers you have in mind for CFC e.g saurez or lewandoski however, you and I know this guys are not readily available in the market. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 5:21pm On May 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Then it is obvious you cannot read and comprehend oga and it is not my fault. Nateevs, clearly stated clubs like Madrid and barca are not interested in signing lukaku. He also went ahead to mention bayern, manU,psg,monaco,liverpool and arsenal to support his point. I am sure you can do a bit of arithmetics dayo! So if or when you count the number of clubs Nateevs used as examples to support his point you will definitely count nothing less than 7clubs. Please,tell me how drogbas case then is particularly different from lukakus case now? Asides Juventus who were so desperate to have his signature they did a Wenger on him by putting a bid half that of Chelsea. Uncle dayo!! Except you can show me the evidence of at least 6top clubs asking for drogbas signature before CFC signed him then I really can not see why you entered this Convo to start with. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:50pm On May 02, 2017 |
Thecassanova: I say leave these people. You go just tire. Are real Madrid or Barcelona chasing Harry Kane? Alexis Sanchez is having the best season of his entire career in terms of goals and asssists, I don't see any reports of Madrid and Barca chasing him. Real Madrid/Barca ko, Atletico Madrid/Espanyol ni. God will bless you for this graphic 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:02pm On May 02, 2017 |
diggz: I am sure if you dig into my posts, you will find the same reasons I condemned Drogba. I was not wrong. What I was wrong about was that I was condemning his style of play, when his style of play was the perfect solution for how we approached the game in that era. In the same vein, if we were to return to that playing style, Lukaku may do. However, we are not. We have since moved on from that style of play and as such, that type of Striker is not a fit. It's a very simple debate. The reason we should stay away from the dude is the same reason others are. Very simple debate. And there is nothing contradictory about my stance. Then or now. Word has it that it is Emenalo who is trying to sign him, not Conte. So I don't support in entirety that "Chelsea" are after him. From everything we've seen in the press, there is little to nothing to suggest Conte is even interested so don't be surprised to see Lukaku in Everton next season and you guys will be here still, telling us why he is hotter than all strikers. Question. If Chelsea don't buy Lukaku next season, what will be the excuse he's not moved? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 6:15pm On May 02, 2017 |
^don't worry UtD go sign am. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:32pm On May 02, 2017 |
is real Madrid sure to beat their bitter rivals atletico tonight? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:33pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs: You must be joking if you think Lukaku is not moving next season, even if we don't sign him. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:33pm On May 02, 2017 |
SIRcumalot:abi sefff....make una carry am |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:34pm On May 02, 2017 |
is real Madrid sure to beat their bitter rivals atletico tonight? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:40pm On May 02, 2017 |
Nihilist: Sebi you say you no go dasi ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:59pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs: I no like as una dey tasi my nigga Big Rom |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 7:53pm On May 02, 2017 |
nateevs:lol Alright You believe what you want to believe and I would believe what I want to believe. Ija ko si ni Church, S'adura ki n s'amin ni. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:02pm On May 02, 2017 |
macjireh: Customer dada ni Atletico fun Real Madrid. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:27pm On May 02, 2017 |
https://twitter.com/Beardamendi/status/859148878926532609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigsoccer.com%2Fthreads%2Fweareallleomessi-oh-wait-other-teams-thread-r.2033569%2Fpage-468 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:05pm On May 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Nonsense. You mean Zidane scored a dodgy penalty in the semi? Figo was head and shoulders above Zidane in LaLiga and was voted best foreign player in LaLiga, not Zidane. He even won Balon Dor that season and the outcry in Spain was massive that Zidane robbed him. Figo with wastemen like Nuno Homes, Vidigal, Dimas and Abel Xavier was taking France into extra time in the semi. Infact the whole Portugal11 were wastemen except Figo, Rui Costa, Costinha and maybe Fernando Couto. That's enough for me. All fingers are not equal. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:10pm On May 02, 2017 |
diggz: Drogba deal to Juve was already agreed for £13m until Chelsea stepped in late after signing Mourinho who asked for him. Marseille smelt a mugu and upped the price to £24m. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:14pm On May 02, 2017 |
Last season, Lukaku had the most goals against the top 6. This season he doesn't, but of course people will choose whichever of the two stats fits their argument. Lukaku is a big game and a small game player. A physical player like Lukaku will always perform regardless of opposition because physical power does not respect whether you are a top player or average player. He will bully you the same way. You can ask Drogba. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:25pm On May 02, 2017 |
This is why I want madrd to meet juve in semis Now madrid have won champions league again Mtchew |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:30pm On May 02, 2017 |
Ororo the WPOTY 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:52pm On May 02, 2017 |
Ibime: Have you started skipping your meds again Zidane was in Juvetus in 2000, So how will Zidane from Italy be in contention for the best foreign player in La Liga or better still let me counter with this Figo was unable to win Serie A best foreign player while playing for Barcelona shows Zidane is better ![]() ![]() ![]() Zidane was carrying geriatrics quater to retirememnent like Blanc Deschamps and Dessailly with big game wastemen like Henry |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:22pm On May 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: OK, you got that. Now name the Serie A player of the year, let's see if Zidane was even in the running for his own league. Also name the France11 Vs the Portugal 11, make we see say shoe get size. In 2000, Figo was head and shoulders above Zidane. In those days, we used to refer to World Soccer POTY as well after FIFA award, and Figo won that as well as the Balon Dor. It's not by telling us he beasted with a dodgy penalty in the Euro semi that would make me rate Zidane over Figo that year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:30pm On May 02, 2017 |
Ibime: Serie A player of the year 2000 was Sheva who was the comparable talent to Figo. Not Zidane. You cant see Zidane and figo on the field in 2000 and not see the difference Its like seeing Ribery and Messi on the field, while Ribery will be hustling to make things happen, Messi will do the same with a cigar in his mouth That France vs Portugal go check the overhead control, Zidane did and laid the pass to Henry/Anelka. Ball control only Zidane murders Figo Euro 2000 semi and world cup 2006 quarter are 2 of the best Zidane games I have ever seen he shat on the entire midfield |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:37pm On May 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Serial A player of the year 2000 was Totti. Figo is not on Shevas level. Figo is a WPOTY himself in 2001. He was the prototype that sprung the modern Ronaldo-type winger, before that most wingers were run and cross. World Cup 2006 quarterfinal is the best game I've ever seen Zidane play. 2000 semi, he was facing Vidigal and co. That one na midfield? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:20pm On May 02, 2017 |
Ibime: I meant best foreign player in Italy the equivalent you showed us Figo won in Spain. That 2001 wpoty was a compensation not that anyone wad outstanding that year. Was that not the year Michael Owen was balon dor. There is no similarity between Figo and Dinho. Dinho was more skillful and a bigger goal threat. Figo was the old school winger mostly in a 442. Like Amunike. I'm on mobile and can't check his goals scoring record but I'm sure if we remove penalties it will be mediocre. Vidigal won't be much worse than Deschamps of 2000 who could barely turn Rui Costa, Sergio Conceicao, Fernando Couto, Joao Pinto, Jorge Costa, Vitor Bahia talent for talent can match the best in Europe that time After Euro 2000 Blanc and Deschamps went into retirement Figo cant be compared to Ronaldo type winger at all, Figo highest was 2002/03 10 league goals a season 5 of which were penalties next was 04/05 where he scored 8 league goals of which 6 were penalties So how can Figo be the proto-type to Ronaldo winger the scoring wingers? Figo was strictly a winger for 442 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:05am On May 03, 2017 |
Lukaku is quality ka ma kuro ka ma jale. He will likely do better than Costa if he gets the service. So whether big clubs are after him or not is moot. We won the treble with Mario Mandzukic so its down to if he can fit. Shebi na Benzema we dey see for Madrid. Wetin e dey play? 5 Likes |
(1) (2) (3) ... (2864) (2865) (2866) (2867) (2868) (2869) (2870) ... (19504) (Reply)
Viewing this topic: CentiLion(m), Colson(m) and 12 guest(s)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 103 |