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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:18pm On May 04, 2017
IAF MiG-27 with local upgrades

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:23pm On May 04, 2017
IAF Mig 25 Reconnaissance Camera shocked

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:24pm On May 04, 2017
nemesis2u:
Boeing 707 SASS

Aviation Research Centre (ARC) India used to operate two Boeing 707-337C SIGINT platform in its inventory. They used the aircraft as a Strategic Surveillance Airborne System (SASS) to look deep into the enemy’s territory and gather intelligence.

The B-707s were last used during the Kargil conflict for ELINT operations. These aircrafts played an instrumental role in identifying enemy positions in the mountains and intercepting/ jamming enemy communications while flying at high altitudes.
I'm still mad SAAF retired these without replacing their capability. grin grin

They were used in the search and rescue mission of the crashed German and USAF planes in the Atlanticn
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:25pm On May 04, 2017
IAF MiG-23UM

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 5:26pm On May 04, 2017
nemesis2u:
IAF Mig 25 Reconnaissance Camera shocked

Edit : I thought you typed Mig 25 with .......


Nice bird in background.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:30pm On May 04, 2017
MikeCZA:
I'm still mad SAAF retired these without replacing their capability. grin grin

They were used in the search and rescue mission of the crashed German and USAF planes in the Atlanticn

yes SA also had similar capability based on 707

how come ur got retired so fast , Indian ones r kind of mothballed too but they r still used infrequently
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 5:31pm On May 04, 2017
nemesis2u:
New PAK FA with new avionics and new engines?
source?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:32pm On May 04, 2017
tdayof:

Edit : I thought you typed Mig 25 with .......


Nice bird in background.

grin

the su 30 is just sun bathing there , got nothing to do with detached Mig 25 Reconnaissance Camera module grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:34pm On May 04, 2017
giles14:
source?

i posted it as a question becz one was supposed to come out , i had read it somewhere sometime ago

dont remember where , age is catching fast on me grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:40pm On May 04, 2017
nemesis2u:


yes SA also had similar capability based on 707

how come ur got retired so fast , Indian ones r kind of mothballed too but they r still used infrequently
They were supposed to be replaced by the A400M but the deal was cancelled.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:42pm On May 04, 2017
TU 22M Indian navy is rumored to have / had operated 4 of these armed with 3 KH-22M/AS-4 kitchen cruise missiles each .


funny thing soviets offered to set up a TU22 plant in india , which the short sighted defense ministry rejected , now the assholes r thoroughly assfuuked

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:43pm On May 04, 2017
MikeCZA:
They were supposed to be replaced by the A400M but the deal was cancelled.

interestingly those SA 707 could be used as tankers too isnt it ?

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:53pm On May 04, 2017
indian navy IN IL-38-SD

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:54pm On May 04, 2017
nemesis2u:

interestingly those SA 707 could be used as tankers too isnt it ?
Yes.
Now to deploy fighters SAAF has to jump from country to country.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:56pm On May 04, 2017
indian navy P8I

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:00pm On May 04, 2017
IAF C-17

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:07pm On May 04, 2017
IAF C-130J-30 Hercules

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:11pm On May 04, 2017
IAF AN32 also used as bomber

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:06pm On May 04, 2017
ZBD-04A type 97 IFV

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:30pm On May 04, 2017
Atlantic Trident 17 brought together most formidable combination of fighters ever

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:37pm On May 04, 2017
Russian airborne troops commissions new Leer-2 electronic warfare systems.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:43pm On May 04, 2017
Russia Installed System in Crimea to Snoop on U.S. Destroyers, Jam Communications

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 9:47pm On May 04, 2017
The Murmansk-BN is a long-range communications jamming system specially designed to take out NATO and United States (US) high frequency military satellite communications. The Murmansk-BN electronic warfare (EW) system is being developed by KRET and has a maximum coverage of 3,000 kilometers. This system was developed as part of a Russian strategic electronic warfare system and operates as a network centric capability. The primary target of the Murmansk-BN is the West's High Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS). It was unveiled in November 2016 as the system prototype was achieving some test successes.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 10:06pm On May 04, 2017
I Went to War Against Stealth Fighters—And Lost Badly

Flying with the bad guys into a mock air-to-air battle

I Went to War Against Stealth Fighters—And Lost Badly
U.S. Air Force18
On April 26, 2017, I had the opportunity to fly on a training sortie during the U.S. Air Force’s Atlantic Trident 17 exercise at Joint Base Langley Eustis in Virginia.

The war game brings together the three premier NATO air forces and the best operational fighters in the alliance’s arsenal including the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor—flown by hosts, the 1st Fighter Wing—the Lockheed Martin F-35A Joint Strike Fighter, the British Royal Air Force’s Eurofighter Typhoons and the French Armée de l’Air’s Dassault Rafales.

U.S. Air Force Boeing F-15E Strike Eagles from the 391st Fighter Squadron and Northrop Grumman T-38 Talon jet trainers from the 1st Fighter Wing’s own 71st Fighter Training Squadron provided “Red Air” support playing the bad guys.

Having had a long association with the Raptor community, Col. Peter “Coach” Fesler, commander of the elite 1st Fighter Wing, wanted me to see first hand how the F-22, F-35, Typhoon and the Rafale operate together from the air. To that end, the Air Force arranged for me to fly onboard a 71st FTS Northrop T-38A on an operational training sortie during the third week of Atlantic Trident 17—when the exercise is at its peak intensity.

The first order of business was a stop at the Langley Air Force Base hospital to get my temporary 72-hour flight physical. The medical examination was very similar to a Navy Class I flight physical—which I have undergone several times—but without an audiogram or cardiogram. The Air Force flight surgeon told me that the examination was indeed an abbreviated and modified version of the Class I flight physical that is required for the service’s pilots.

After a very thorough examination, my flight surgeon gave her ascent and I was cleared to fly.

Because my sortie was what the Air Force calls a “familiarization flight”—which is usually afforded to Air Force pilots, officers and other personnel who normally carry out other duties rather than a typical media flight—I had to undergo survival training to fly onboard the T-38A that is identical to what the pilots receive.

The training included instruction on water survival, on all of the survival equipment—including the various radios—and how to properly don the T-38A’s rather unique, old school flight-gear. Special emphasis was placed on how to harness into the parachute and ejection seat.

More importantly, the Air Force instructors who taught the class—which included two photographers, a B-52 pilot, an E-3 pilot and an E-3 radar crewman—detailed the finer points of ejecting from the T-38A and how to egress on the ground in the event of an emergency.

Indeed, the instructors placed special emphasis on bailout procedures because the T-38A does not have a zero/zero ejection seat. We then had a class about parachute training that culminated in a simulated parachute landing using virtual reality goggles.

The next day I had to report to the 71st Fighter Training Squadron to be fitted for my flight gear. The Air Force technicians first had to fit me for an OTS 600 immersion suit—derisively referred to as a poopy suit because it is extremely uncomfortable—which is necessary for flying over the Atlantic during cold weather.

Next, I had to don a fireproof Nomex flight suit and boots, over which goes the G-suit. After that, I had to be issued a parachute, harness and seat-kit as well as be fitted for a helmet and mask. The 71st FTS technicians were absolute professionals in fitting me out for the flight.

The following morning I finally reported into the squadron ops desk at the 71st FTS. There I met my pilot—a very impressive young man with the callsign “Tsar” (for security reasons, the Air Force asked that we only publish the names of commanding officers) who was on his first assignment out of undergraduate pilot training. The 26-year-old pilot was near the top of his class and will report to the 43rd Fighter Squadron for his next assignment—the F-22 “B-Course”—where he will learn to fly the Raptor at Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida.

An assignment to the 71st FTS where young pilots can learn from seasoned veterans while learning the strengths and weakness of the Raptor—not to mention F-22 tactics, techniques and procedures—offers enormous advantages to Tsar and his peers in the unit.

Scheduled to fly with us was our flight lead “Score”—a veteran F-16 pilot—and my old friend “Fangs”—who I first met over a decade ago at Nellis AFB, Nevada, when he was an operational test pilot putting the F-22 through its paces. Learning from veterans like Score and Fangs, Tsar will have an enormous advantage when he begins learning to fly the Raptor on his next assignment.

For the actual sortie, our three-ship of T-38As was designated Vodka Flight. Score—as the flight lead—was Vodka 1, Fangs was Vodka 2 while Tsar and I were Vodka 3. Ahead of us was another flight of aggressors designated MiG Flight, while behind us were Iron and Fist Flights.

The idea—together with the F-15Es—was to present the F-22s, F-35s, Typhoons and Rafales a realistic high-end threat presentation. The Talons were replicating the Russian-made Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrum while the F-15E replicated the Sukhoi Flanker series.

After we kitted up and “stepped” to the jets and strapped into the aircraft, Tsar quickly ran through the checklists and started up the aircraft. Once the jets were up and running, we taxied to the active runway for a formation takeoff.

The three aircraft in our formation—led by Score—climbed to altitude and transited to the range to start the fight. Typically, the T-38As fights at altitudes around 10,000 feet to 14,000 feet during a normal aggressor mission, but due to bad weather and icing conditions, we quickly climbed to 22,000 feet as we entered the range.

Entering into the fight, our three Talon/Fulcrums maneuvered around trying to engage the Blue Force aircraft. While the Talon doesn’t have the avionics or the kinematic performance to truly mimic a real Russian fourth-generation fighter—especially for a within visual range fight—the aircraft offers a reasonable facsimile of fighter performance at beyond visual range distances.

Indeed, that’s the idea behind the T-38 aggressors—the job is to provide the F-22s with thinking targets that can ruthlessly exploit any weakness in tactics or pilot errors at long range using their intimate knowledge of the Raptor and its operations. If the Talons reach visual range—or encounter the Raptors at the “merge”—something has gone terribly wrong. Even the British pilots flying the Typhoon agreed that the Talon provides a good threat presentation.

As luck would have it, it would be a Royal Air Force Typhoon that ultimately took down Tsar and I in Vodka 3. Within minutes of starting the fight, Vodka 1 and Vodka 2 were taken down before we even knew our flight was under attack.

As Tsar started to maneuver our aircraft, trying to evade an enemy we couldn’t see, a Typhoon coordinating with an F-22 quickly and unceremoniously dispatched us. Unfortunately, the weather was terrible and we were ordered to return to base because of the need to maintain high fuel reserves—but normally the T-38s “regenerate” or come back to life several times during a sortie. But the bottom line is: Seeing is believing—the Raptor and Typhoon are a lethal combination.

“Even if you were in an Eagle or J-20 … you felt the same thing,” a senior Air Force official with an air superiority background told me after my flight—referring to the feeling of utter helplessness of being attacked by an invisible enemy. “Because of the security cloak, it’s just impossible to explain. If everyone really knew and we asked to ‘choose their weapon’—there would be no doubt.”

Flying back to Langley, the experience was an eye-opener. I have been covering the Raptor and the F-35 since beginning of both programs. It is one thing to intellectually grasp the power of stealth, but seeing it in action makes one a believer—our flight had no idea, no warning from the AWACS or GCI that we were about to be hit until it was all over. It’s nearly impossible to fight an enemy you can’t see.

While the Raptor would be the most formidable fighter in the world due to its raw performance even without stealth, it’s now clear to me that even the F-35 with its mediocre kinematic performance will be an extremely dangerous foe in the air due to its low radar cross-section and sensors.

“If the pilots of both could carry a nine-millimeter and open the canopy inflight, they would have 15 more kills per sortie,” the senior Air Force official told me. “It’s like fighting Mr. Invisible.”

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 10:13pm On May 04, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
ZBD-04A type 97 IFV
cheesy my wish for NA
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:48pm On May 04, 2017
Odunayaw:
cheesy my wish for NA
Looks neat to me, can it carry ATGMs?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 11:51pm On May 04, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Looks neat to me, can it carry ATGMs?
Yes been stalking d bad boy for a while now
This shld be a replacement for our 4k7FA & MTLBs

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:28am On May 05, 2017
Odunayaw:
Yes
been stalking d bad boy for a while now

This shld be a replacement for our 4k7FA & MTLBs
What do you think should be the replacement for NA vickers and T-50/55
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:09am On May 05, 2017
jakeporeshenko:

What do you think should be the replacement for NA vickers and T-50/55
ah..tough question
but the general characteristics any tank to serve in Nigeria must have is good mobility + firepower & moderate armor
Taking into account politics,Relations & the unwelcome guest THE PURSE..I would say the T90 or the Sino-Pak Al-Khalid

Nemesis2u u know any juicy stuff abt d Khalid tank?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 12:43pm On May 05, 2017
Odunayaw:
ah..tough question
but the general characteristics any tank to serve in Nigeria must have is good mobility + firepower & moderate armor
Taking into account politics,Relations & the unwelcome guest THE PURSE..I would say the T90 or the Sino-Pak Al-Khalid

Nemesis2u u know any juicy stuff abt d Khalid tank?
T-90SME. is the answer

the Khalid is an unproven mbt
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by gamargu(m): 1:24pm On May 05, 2017
jakeporeshenko:

What do you think should be the replacement for NA vickers and T-50/55
T-90 Damisa assembled in Nigeria with Russian help
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:05pm On May 05, 2017
Odunayaw:
ah..tough question
but the general characteristics any tank to serve in Nigeria must have is good mobility + firepower & moderate armor
Taking into account politics,Relations & the unwelcome guest THE PURSE..I would say the T90 or the Sino-Pak Al-Khalid

Nemesis2u u know any juicy stuff abt d Khalid tank?

it is Chinese Type 90II tank

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